JAVA'S PRIME FEATURE. Also, the whole of harmony os reminded me of how important and sublime, object oriented programming is.

@@simeonnischith6075 While object oriented programming might have correlations, write once run everywhere has not much to do with object orientedness but more to do with unified instruction set for the well specified underlying virtual machine and for upgradability, a good match of reserved instruction set while still being efficient

@@sampadmohanty8573 ye that too

An operating system that talks in machine language and a high level language running on a virtual machine are quite different.

Write once debug everywhere

Hope it isnt. I wish japan or korea steps up their game more. Giving the CCP more control would be 100x worse than the US gov.

@@honkhonk8009 Yeah me too, but Korean and Japanese phones target a hole different demographic. For example, I want cheap phones with good specifications and only Chinese phones fulfill that need. Plus Google and Facebook already spy on you, so I don't think it would matter if I used Harmony OS or android..

@@honkhonk8009 no one is worse than the U.S gov, ask any non American or American Ally

Harmony kill Android🥳

@@yjl11100 oh my god you communist imbeciles. I am from Greece and if it weren’t for America the whole Europe would be shell hole

how much social credit points did you earn for that bad script you just wrote

This is just plain sad lolol

@@eduwino151 you guys getting paid by writing ?

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Me too

New? Its literally a cross between iOS and Android. They havent shown a single feature that's new. Not one.

what do u expect from an always self righteous center westerner called himself IT expert.

do that and basically immidiately loose the export market

@@eduwino151 they can export Android phones for the global market.....duh

@@fannyalbi9040 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!

HarmonyOS is a straight theft of Android except with back doors built by the Chinese government. No thanks.

A xbox game on a huawei phone with PS 1 controls

@@ozrencupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk

@Ndragonawa @Ozren Cupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk Btw, cool username!

@@KOTYAR0 What do you mean "stole"? The code is open source under GPL 2.0.

@@DailyBeatings its still illegal anyway if they dont make the modifications to the source code public.

What is the incentive for bbk to work together with them on this?

And it's an "if" after all, most manufacturers are not so confident in ditching Google or Android yet. Android has proven its sustainability in future secured by all these ecosystem and user database things.

@@abhishekdev258 Having 4 companies running paralleling in android market is pretty boring

@@leongcm1998 Android didn’t prove It's sustainability. Instead it has become a huge concern for phone manufacturers. Anytime they can shut off their GMS for any company. Trust is the main issue with American companies nowadays.

@@helianthus2739 That's my point, they won't want to shut off GMS. On firm's perspective, they don't want to be binded by Google. When you want to throw something away for something uncertain, that's the risk most manufacturers don't want to bear. At least for now. It's proven, look at how Huawei performs in global market. Others won't want to take that risk either. If they do, they would've ditched it.

Happy Friday

+1 same here!

ok

Lol me too

Exactly

xiaomi is known as apple of china

@@amitsharma0794 nope, Xiaomi can never be apple. Even in China. But Huawei can, but not in the smartphone market due to the US ban

@@burggerbig102 in what, they don't have anything that Apple have, they only have cheap copy of the original version iOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iOS launcher on Android iPadOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iPadOS on Android MacBook -> MatBook ( Cheap Huawei ripoff) iPad -> MatPad ( Cheap Huawei ripoff)

@@GTAandApplechannel even their product names are derivatives.

@@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh yep Even Xiaomi does that, remember the MiPad (M + iPad = MiPad)

First

Be original

No, i am not

That's your first thought after watching this video? Be original.

@@sinuslebastian6366 I commented this about 1minute after the video was up and everyone were commenting first, also it was a joke.

As a former windows phone user, the chance is so slim it’s not even worth thinking about

@@nigelbassett3791 He said the Chinese market only. And windows store sucked. Never would have made it in China

@@TheZachary86 It’s not about how good the tech is or even the location. Humans are just wired to latch on to something and keep on that habit unit something drastic forces change. And another dying phone division making another last ditch attempt to stay relevant by propping up it’s mythical “third OS” isn’t gonna cut it. You’d have astronomically better chances inventing a new tech product that runs a new OS than trying to win over the deeply apathetic consumer on the basis of “it’s different, but you’ll have to throw out all your apps and sacrifice your first born to devs in the hopes that one will even give an app for our platform a passing thought”. It just not gonna happen.

@@nigelbassett3791 > you’ll have to throw out all your apps Where does it say that in the video? Also did you even watched the integration strategy that was brought up in the video? No one is saying that huawei is going to rip your phone OS and install their own proprietary system that has no integration. I feel that people are just commenting and haven’t even watched the whole video and are just commenting because of their preconceived notions

@@TheZachary86 My point is that it won’t matter. There have been dozens of these failures over the years, and there will be dozens more. The odds of Huawei becoming the next LG are just gonna go up, especially if they’re gonna keep venting money chasing moonshot ideas like this that no one cares about

We already have Linux system for phone, Tizen by Samsung, Sailfish OS, Windows Mobile.. where have you gone?

Agree, I hope Huawei can succeed and focus to develop the best of themselves.

@@notamoonraker Those are either trash or they failed eventually so now we need new competition

There's already competition(tho I'll never say no to more): KaiOS, SailfishOS, Mobile Linux(PureOS), & CalyxOS

@@bootao1671 Of course they are failed because they are independent projects and didn't get government support as Huawei did from P.R.C govt, duh 🙄 even Huawei still shamelessly rely on Google IMS, unlike those "failed" OS.

Exactly how huawei took over the smartphone market. USA would not bully any more companies anymore

It is not that hard, and not a miracle either. As they aren't starting from scratch. It is fork of Android. Even their IDE as shown in the video looks like a fork of Android studio.

@@niluss6 good luck making your own chip 😂

@@nakternal ow this is not about a chip. This is software, and there is this thing called Copy > Paste...

@@niluss6 huawei can make it because of china. They are not a free market they can tell xiaomi oppo etc hey guys android is banned you have to use harmony now. They did this to KZfaq Facebook etc

@@user-fr2fm3ri3w But you don't understand thou. If you peek into the Harmony API, it is based on the old version of Android. It is like how custom ROM makers do it, they get Android source and build on top of it. On this case Huawei gets a copy of Android, does their modification and that's the start. Another example is how Linux distros starts by forking an already made one, and modifying it, changing it, making it their own. And I am not saying Huawei can't built it from scratch. They could, and probably has the resources to do so. But they certainly did not start from scratch. And starting from scratch is probably dumb, costly, if you can just fork Android.

Harmony kill Android🥳

Chinese government was about to do this anyway, so whatever. Huawei is controlled by Chinese government and everybody knows that, and as government forced Huawei to spy it was the only reason Huawei has fallen down to zero.

@@justme6275 huawei is literally running android , harmony os is literally android without Google’s apps

@@justme6275 even i'm are Android fan but i like HarmonyOS more than Android

They are investing into in-car infotainment systems and self-driving software, not cars themselves, but yes, their current car stuff like HiCar is running some version of HarmonyOS for now

@@TechAltar total agree but I think huwai is synonymous to cyber insecurity 😅

@@TechAltar You keep misleading people Hamm? Folks, if harmony OS is not an OS then android isn’t too. Because they use the android open source version in which any manufacturer can replicate and and make an OS from there. The android open source version is not owned by google but google is responsible for updates. Anyone can create an OS from there and call is their own OS. It’s a model and it’s not the same version that run on our phones, it’s a different version on android. Huawei made it much better with the intention to become the OS of Internet of things. And yes, google mobile services apps will work there just as they work on IOS.

@@blackworld5615 Rest assured, Huawei's products are far more secure than anything India has created...

@@blackworld5615 no it's not.

Calling it an OS is Huawei’s publicity stunt. Since he has chatted with people from huawei, saying that directly could be rude and rough.

@@semi59o it's not an OS now deal with it

@@GTAandApplechannel I wonder, where _you_ personally would put a comma in your statement.

@@igorchistyakov8876 between OS and Now

they are atleast making some steps so thats good :)

India will most probably ban it. How would you use?

@@kokuyocamlin07 He's talking of a probability, bro... "If".

Glad it was helpful!

@@TechAltar your videos take up amazing topics! The story behind series is one of my favourite things to watch on YT

@@TechAltar Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!

Agreed! I think it's an interesting idea, even if I'm not sure it will succeed

@@TechAltar i kinda hope it'll succeed if not i kinda hope more people realize they are on to something and replicate it, abstracting the os away from the user and possibly the app devs feels like the way forward 👀

"abstracting the underlying operation system" So... Virtual machines?

@@louislee5792 nope, abstracting the underlying operating system by blurring the lines between them. harmonyos app are supposed to work as long as "harmonyos' layer" is there regardless if its android or some other os. this "layer" is capable of running parts of the app on another device, regardless of the underlying operating system, and interface with it as well. finally this "layer" is also capable of access peripherals connected to another device regardless of the underlying os. actually here's an ambitious example say you have a windows computer, an android phone and an ipad and a smart tv and say vlc is an "harmonyos app" with your android phone you launch vlc and but you tell run it on your windows computer. as a result you play say a movie stored on your pc but both the video and the sound appear to come from your tv, you pick up your tv remote and pause it. finally you pick up your ipad decide to tweak vlc's settings to your liking before continuing. a bit forced, overdone and probably a bad example but in huawei's terms all 4 devices are running "harmonyOS". to the end user all the devices are running "one operating system" despite there being 4 underlying operating systems; those 4 operating systems are abstracted away from the user as one single operating system

@@fuseteam Kinda like Java Virtual Machine (JVM)? You can install it on most devices and their operating systems, hence developers can develop software for them all. But maybe Huawei is also doing interconnectivity/interoperabilitybetween them at the same time.

The Harmony OS running on IoT devices are not the same as the one running on phones; they just share the same name. It's like naming your spoon "chopsticks" and claim you can drink soup with chopsticks.

@@louislee5792 From developer's point of view, it doesn't matter if they are the same or not, since applications are not talking directly to the kernels of the OS. Applications are talking through APIs provided by the HAL. Harmony OS's for phones/pads and IoT are using different kernels, Linux or LiteOS, but they share common APIs. When developers develop an application, they can decided if they want it to run, or which module they want to run on phone, watch or IoT devices. The different between the two Harmony OS variants is similar to the concept of Android vs Android Ware (Ware OS now).

@@ericliume While the development might be more or less the same, that's not really the point here. Just because they share similar APIs don't make them variants of one another. It's like a Java developer claiming Mac, Windows and Linux to be of the same family since Java applications interact with JVM and not the kernels. Or a JS developer claiming Safari, Chrome and Firefox to be of the same family since they implement the same Web APIs. By the way, even though HarmonyOS is not yet open source, people have successfully run APKs on HarmonyOS, implying the APIs to be compatible. Can I then claim HarmonyOS to be a variant of Android? Would you agree that HarmonyOS is an Android distribution?

@@louislee5792 To be honest, Java developer can consider Mac, Windows and Linux are all the same due to the fact that JVM makes the platforms less of a fuss. That is the point in the first place as JVM comes into picture. While JS, on the other hand, cannot claim the same since it is highly depending on how each browser supports the APIs and if the implementation is W3C compatible. By the way, Huawei has already made it open source. HarmonyOS is open source under the project OpenHarmony, you can go download the source from gitee.com/openharmony , and you can download it's home-grown LiteOS kernel source from GitHub.

@@ericliume Java developer can see the three as the same **during development**, but they are still three different operating systems. Period. Applying an abstraction layer on top of existing OS doesn't make these OS the same. Why just focus on Java developers? Why not ask UWP developers? Swift developers? GTK developers?

Spyware

@@nakternal.. Android would have been better if they didn't install so much bloatware on their phones. Ios is a better os.

@@thewishmastur Its still chinese crap

@@nakternal that is all modern commerical software

You mean being forced to keep their mouths shut ?! They will die as a company

Harmony kill Android🥳

Their OS is nothing more than theft of Android.

@@Evan_Rodgers How can you steal what is free? I mean, AOSP.

@@Evan_Rodgers do some homework first lol

@@Evan_Rodgers but android is free is open to everyone?

@@hikarupp123 yeah but huawei claims they made a new os , meanwhile it’s just a form of android. I can make my own os too if I fort android or linuix, all they did was change the icons and remove Google’s apps

That's why they are right to call it a distributed system.

No, Chinese government or US Tech Firms

The Chinese Military or The FBI ( which they can denies their access by the way unlike the Chinese Military which)

At least regulators can mitigate Apple/Google. Also you can use Android without Google services and preserve your privacy. Apple does a good job about privacy as well. On the other hand we can’t do anything about the CCP/China.

@@thetaomega7816 You should listen to what Snowden said about the NSA

@CISO absolutely right

For what reason

@@hahahahahah607 no reason that's the reason

@@hahahahahah607 cause none of existent ecosystem is complete. We need another "bluetooth" revolution where everything can be connected in a huge ecosystem even if those are not from the same manufacturer.

@@mariankis1158 Buying Chinese product means supporting rape, murder, culture genocide and violations of human right in Tibet, southern Mongolen, hongkong 🇭🇰 people and Uighur.. Say no to made in China

@@hahahahahah607 apple products are made in the same way, in China. Tesla cars too. Xiaomi & Oppo. A lot of chips too. Your headphones are, your peripherals are. Huawei is not the problem here. Also, they are good to their employees. Idk about production employees, but the rest are just fine. They even get equal shares when they employ to Huawei.

same

Don't want to advertise the opponent

Harmony isn't an OS

@@GTAandApplechannel it's

@@moutasim_ayoubi Fake

@CISO where does IOS runs android apps

@@GTAandApplechannel we will see

US isn't paranoid, they just know very well what chinese government does :)))

@@martin0469 not paranoid? 😂 Your government even tapping to their european allies, and microsoft just come out and saying us gov is getting your cloud data without your consent lol. As if that is not paranoid? And how many budget does us spend to make negative news on china? Yeah just goole them 😁

@@tomiputra3720 And how many students did China kill in 1989? And now tries to delete this from their history??? No one can speak about this in china because they will go in prison. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obN7qdt7krDXY3U.html

@@tomiputra3720 I am disgusted by you. You don’t even know how many bad things Chinese government does, comunism is sooo bad. People don’t have any right to speak there. Every single text message can be supervised and if you write somenthing that chinese government doesn’t like, they will kill your relatives or make them dissappear for example :))) or you will simply go to the prison for a lifetime. these are true stories. 99.99% of people who are acused of something there get even senteced. No human rights at all :)))

@@martin0469 have you been to china? like US is saint? destroying a country because of washing powder? lol not mention slavery and racial abuse

I will use my P10 until it stops working. Newer phones might look cool but their functionality is basically the same, or even less without access to Google services

Honor 10 lite unfortunately won't get HarmonyOS update, P10 will

Yes, and out of the scope of western intelligence agencies

@@nanochox As if the alternative is any better with China. If only Nokia's OS(s) was still around...

@@SirFaceFone I understand that it's not a great alternative, but it's an alternative

There are millions of people in China using huawei. I mean ofc in terms of the Chinese scale its not a lot but they are still quite relevant there.

@@redditr5577 But with US Sanctions their number of users are decreasing day by day even in China.

@@AkashYadavOriginal That's true. It means they just have to do something outstanding that would capture consumers heart then. No matter what company it is as long as it is cheap and provides excellent quality people will buy it. There are also countries that look for affordable prices instead of an iphone that is almost always same every year. Surprised that people in China go crazy about iphones.

@@redditr5577 that's why I said they have a remote chance because unless what they do is something truly unique than only they can get a chance to taste success. But the chances are if they do something really good and get traction Apple and Google can easily copy them. See what happened to Tile, first Apple promoted them during WWDC. When they started getting popular, Apple copied their concept in Airtags, made it cheap. Also implemented OS level restrictions so Tile app user experience starts degrading.

@@AkashYadavOriginal the difference is that 80percent of the phone market is android and 70 percent of the android phones are Chinese, so if the Chinese phones dump android then google would struggle

Unfair competition my ass, China outright banned some foreign companies to even operate in China.

And I just want to see Huawei burn to the ground - because we can

I'm guessing but maybe he meant Apple, Android, HarmonyOS all 3 being some kind of ecosystem. As different as some Android skins are, all in all Android is Android.

Android will still be number one and iOS will still be number two. Both are too recognizable, popular and big to be overthrown. They have the consumer's trust (compared to Huawei lol). HarmonyOS will be third if Samsung doesn't come out of no where and release OneOS or something, since if they did, Huawei is basically fricked. But Samsung is obviously trying to strengthen it's partnership with Google so that is 99.99% unlikely.

Microsoft is an american company and will not cooperate

@@KevinFlynn_ That's why every one hates the USA government.

I actually pay for KZfaq Premium. This is a retail device I played with in a Huawei store that came pre-installed with Vanced

@@TechAltar vanced devs be like : TIS A WIN

@@tonypaca3015 HarmonyOS is different from OpenHarmony, previously known as LiteOS. The OS running on Huawei phones is not the same running on IoT devices, at least not now. Get your facts straight before accusing people being misleading.

They just basically rename the classes to something slightly different. The APIs are pretty much all the same as Android classes.

Why though?

Yeah keep lying to your self. You are pretty much saying that off brand Nike shoes are better than the real deal , just admit you are broke and you would rather have the Chinese government spy in you than work part time for a few weeks

@@ergenekon3257 The us gov isn’t spying on anybody, and besides if you use Facebook you agree tot he terms and it’s optional.

@@user-fr2fm3ri3w The US government is the best government in the world. They never spy other countries and want to give everyone in the world a better life 😅😅😅

@@oscarl2334are you really trying to say Iran turkey Russia and china are better than America? And I won’t even go to Africa and third world countries…

@@user-fr2fm3ri3w 😅😅😅

What about Google ban then. Just politics in the end.

You forgot the part where Huawei can operate as an arm by the CCP.

@@kenetholima7830 You can't compare Huawei with Google. Google Search, KZfaq and Maps are threat to any strong nation. Huawei can be compared with Apple but not Google. As far as I know, Apple is not banned in China.

@@coolbuddyshivam Wrong - Huawei had a near monopoly on communication infrastructure like routers, modems and cell phone towers antennas which is also a threat to any strong nation. Huawei is to Google in the backend hardware sector, especially for 5G. The ban is tit for tat and made sense because Huawei was dumping hardware equipment as they had huge CCP subsidy which meant the other communication companies like Nokia or Ericson couldn't compete fairly and they were winning more than 60% of 5G rollout contracts around the world. People focusing on Huawei for their mobile phones is missing the forest for the tree.

@@kenetholima7830 yeah its politic, but its China policy. Not just Google but all other search engines aren't available in China. But what Trump did is straight up playing dirty in business. Up until now, US gov still has no proof that Huawei devices are used by Chinese gov to collect data and almost everyone know Trump just did it because it's actually a big threat to its local company Apple

Well , the New world power won't be China but the RSF

China is still years behind and without foreign tech they have no path past 7 nm. America can easily do their own chip production. Half of Intel’s fabs are already in the US.

@@GTAandApplechannel what is RSF

They've been hiring ex-TMSC engineers, but a lot of of the new chinese semicon companies are scams. Also, Taiwan government told their citizens not to take China jobs.

@@ToriKo_ the Republic States of Francoria

Apple won't even let u have Fortnite, and ur talking about replacing the phone's OS?😂

@@tomasferreira2405 It's just an Add-On 😉

@@HBees79 yeah, an Add on that you can't download or install

I agree that it's better to have more choice. But in the case for AMD they actually created a completely new chip design that performs better than Intel. Huawei on the other hand didn't create anything new. They just made something that looks and functions exactly like Android with a communication layer that makes connecting to devices slightly easier. At the end of the day they are still reliant on Android apps ecosystem.

@@maplenerd22 they are working AOSP Which is open source So can't complain And yeah OS in their case is huge blurry Then again over time maybe they will give something either better or worse than android Who knows :3

@@Ghostv33 - Oh yeah....there's no complaint for them using open source. But if they want to succeed in an already mature market, they need to provide something completely different and a game changing. AMD's new chip design were game changing and that's why they succeeded. When the iPhone first came to market, it was game changing with gestures and finger navigation. HarmonyOS isn't game changing. In fact, it's just a slightly different version of Android. The only thing that is different is their connection layer which makes it easier only for other HarmonyOS IOT devices.