How I Enjoy Poems: A Reading of “The Lake Isle of Innisfree,” by W.B. Yeats

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Philip Chase

Philip Chase

2 жыл бұрын

In response to requests from viewers, I explain how I enjoy poems and do a reading of “The Lake Isle of Innisfree,” by William Butler Yeats.

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@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
WB Yeats is one of my favourite poets. Remind me to tell you a few stories the next time we speak.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to those stories very much, my friend!
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, there is a recording of Yeats reading this, and he had a very specific reading style for his poetry.
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
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@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that recording of Yeats before -- a very interesting reading style, for sure, and not something I could even begin to imitate. Do you know if he had a philosophy behind the reading style?
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy not entirely sure, but I think it had to do with emphasising the rhythm of the poem and marking it as poetry in a way that could not be mistaken as a prose reading. Being part of the Celtic Revival I think he was also interested in bringing back a bardic tradition so it might have to do with that as well. It's almost a bit like a sing song in parts. Partly it's probably just a style of that time. When listening to actors from that period they all seem to have that strange over declamatory style. Btw: I like your reading style much better!😁
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@brush2canvas849 The bardic thing makes a lot of sense, especially given Yeats' personal mythology and his feelings about Ireland and its heritage. Excellent thoughts! I'm not sure that his reading style has aged very well, but Yeats has left us with poems of incredible depth and beauty, so he's allowed to read them the way he likes!
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yeats is definitely a favorite. His reading style not so much, but it is also an example of an Anglo-Irish accent that has vanished. The political dimension only works with the English name of the island - Innisfree. In Irish it's inis fraoigh the heather island. The rest of your class preperation you will have to do yourself😉😁
@KFoxtheGreat
@KFoxtheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely love the experience of listening to poetry, but find my mind a jumbled mess when I try to read it visually for whatever reason. This was a great video!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hearing poems is my favorite way to experience them, at least initially. On subsequent reads, I’ll take them a few words at a time, soaking them in and seeing what they evoke. Thanks for watching!
@awallerfamily
@awallerfamily 2 жыл бұрын
The best poets in the world today are writting bars for an Alchemist beat. Loved the video. Loved the note about reading out loud.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Andrew! Hearing a poem - just listening to the sounds of the words - can be a great way to experience it, and it’s what I always do first.
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful poem, reading, and fall setting! I love how empathetic you are to the concerns your students shared: feeling like poetry is a 'puzzle to be solved.' Much of education these days is focused on needing to have 'the right answer" and finding that answer in a specific place, so it's completely understandable to have poetry anxiety. The nature imagery in this poem is gorgeous, and I completely agree that those pauses/silences after each line evoke the stillness that pervades nature-a stillness synonymous with peace. The monosyllabic phrasing of the last line "I hear it in the deep heart's core," makes me think of a steady heart beat. It also makes me wonder if the idea is that this place of refuge is always within the person. It also adds this sense of certainty or inner knowing. Peace isn't really out there in a perfect dream but inside the dreamer. Thank you, Philip!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful thoughts, Johanna! I love your insight about the heartbeat mimicked by the monosyllables of the last line. Also, well said about peace and beauty being found within. The fact that the speaker is creating this entire scene in his mind - is not actually present on Innisfree - means that the emotions evoked come at least in part from within. Wonderful!
@eoghansweetman217
@eoghansweetman217 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Ireland, and this was one of the first poems I ever read, and one of my favourites. Have been to lough gill; it’s a beautiful place. Loved this video💚
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I envy you having been there. I hope it’s as beautiful as it was when Yeats wrote about it. Perhaps someday I’ll make a pilgrimage. I’m sure there have been some American tourists visiting before!
@TheEternalElir
@TheEternalElir 2 жыл бұрын
I love the melodic cadences of words in poetry.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! Poetry can be akin to music in so many ways, with both often offering a sense of beauty through rhythm.
@TheCodeXCantina
@TheCodeXCantina 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Philip. Agreed about the experience and being in the moment. Love the trees in the background and worked well with the unity of nature to your point :D
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was hoping someone would comment on the trees, which are part of a 600 acre forest (a county park) behind my home. Filming with them in the background was my "subtle" way of reinforcing the nature theme.
@duffypratt
@duffypratt 2 жыл бұрын
Love this poem. I have a slightly different take on some of it. First, for me the last lines of the stanzas don’t just suggest stanza. They have five feet instead of six, and it feels like they are simply cut short. Especially so in the first and last, which both end with three strong accents. These endings, given what’s come before, are abrupt and almost brutal. They pull me out of the peacefulness, and I think that’s the point. It’s a vision of peace that Yeat’s is aspiring to. Innisfree sounds a bit like inner freedom, and I can’t think that’s an accident, especially since we end with the “deep heart’s core.” But he isn’t actually going there, it’s more of an attempted spiritual journey, but one that repeatedly fails right is in danger of failing. I wouldn’t put so much emphasis on silence. He goes out of his way to emphasize the noises. It reminds me of the scene in Annie Hall where Alvie Singer can’t sleep in the countryside because of all the noise - crickets, etc…. Love that you mentioned Thoreau. I wonder if Yeats had Walden in mind. One of my favorite lines in that book is when Thoreau describes his own efforts at planting bean rows, and declares “I desired to know beans.” Finally, I think the phrase “for peace comes dropping slow.” For me, in the poem, it harks back to the honey, but it’s way more pregnant with meaning than that. I enjoyed this, and would be delighted to hear more. Also, I think Yeats was a great place to start. It’s such a great poem, and probably Yeats at his most lyrical (though there are other poems of his I like better.)
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear your thoughts! I especially enjoyed your alternate interpretation of the shortened fourth line of each stanza. At the very least, there is an element of yearning and aspiration in the poem. I’m glad you enjoy the poem videos. I don’t get a lot of takers on them, but I enjoy the enthusiasm and insights of those who venture by. Cheers!
@davidfossen5751
@davidfossen5751 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really enjoyed your Video on this poem. I myself have never really gotten into poetry, because in school poetry was always just this really boring task, in which you have to find a specific message. You have resparked my interest and I wanted to ask you for an poetry collection with more of these beautiful to read poems, which is also understandable for poetry newbees. Do you happen to know any?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely fantastic to hear, David, and thank you! There are many anthologies of poems that we use to teach poetry. One publishing company that I really like is Norton, which publishes The Norton Anthology of Poetry. You can find used copies of some of the older editions on Amazon for under seven dollars, or it's possible your local library might have something similar. My best wishes to you for your reading!
@francoisbouchart4050
@francoisbouchart4050 2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo 🙌. Thank you for another poetry MasterClass! And what a beautiful poem by Yeats. While I do feel a sense of peace, I get a even stronger sense of regret. The use of “roadway” at the end of the poem evokes a sense of life choices and the path one might find ourselves on. There is regret in finding oneself on a grey pavement devoid of beauty and cut off from nature. Just beautiful. Is there a volume of Yeats’ poetry that you would recommend? Also, is there a text that you would recommend if I want to dive into the structure of poems? Thanks 🙏
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Francois! There are standard literary anthologies that we use when we teach poetry. A few publishing companies put out these anthologies, which usually are organized into sections that tackle aspects of poetry like structure, sounds, forms, symbols, etc. The company I most like to support is Norton (because it's still independent, unlike the others), which produces the Norton Anthology of Poetry. You can find older editions of it (used) on Amazon for under seven dollars, at least from here in the United States. Great to hear your thoughts on "The Lake Isle of Innisfree," and I completely agree about the sense of regret present in the poem. A lot of people can identify with living in a place that isn't their ideal home, perhaps due to economic reasons. I think humans are also just built for longing for what we don't have. Cheers!
@MrRorosuri
@MrRorosuri 2 жыл бұрын
Fall colors 🍂🍂🍂🍂
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite time of year!
@BookishChas
@BookishChas 2 жыл бұрын
This was such a rich and immersive video Philip. Thank you so much for sharing this.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy you enjoyed it, Chas! Thanks so much for the kind and encouraging words!
@Thecatladybooknook_PennyD
@Thecatladybooknook_PennyD 2 жыл бұрын
Love the trees behind you! The reading was lovely!!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That’s the view behind my home, which is next to a 600 acre forest that’s a county park. It’s the best part of living here!
@yorkshirelasstracey5383
@yorkshirelasstracey5383 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful poem and lovely recitation Philip thank you. I enjoy poetry immensely Philip, it touches my soul in ways prose can't. Poetry is so powerful. Here some of my favourites, all quite different but you will see the strength of emotion in each of them. 1, The Cataract of Lodore by Robert Southey. 2, Continuities by Walt Whitman. 3, The Ballad of Reading Gaol by Oscar Wilde. 4, Daffodils by William Wordsworth. I hope you enjoy these Philip. 🤓
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tracey! I have enjoyed poems by all four, but especially by Whitman and Wordsworth. I’ll check them out. I certainly share your love of poems, which can capture feelings and experiences outside the realm of prose.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 2 жыл бұрын
I have a really mixed experience with English teachers in school. Only when I was 14 did an English teacher actually encourage me to explore my own thoughts and writing style. Getting older and preparing for exams, I think it was a Sylvia Plath poem where I had a completely different interpretation of one of the lines to our teacher, who very matter-of-factly pointed out that I was wrong. She was very focused on making sure the class understood the meanings and themes in the same way, so that everyone was able to discuss them to the same level of competence. My last two years of English in school were some of the least engaging I've had, as it boiled down to rigorous note-taking and memorization. Thanks for ending some of my stigma against poetry.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Even if we give that teacher the benefit of the doubt and assume she had the best of intentions in making sure everyone understood her interpretation, she seems to have done a lot of damage, and I'm sure not just to you. It's a common experience, unfortunately. Note taking and memorization as the only activities in an English course would make me hate English literature too. It's a shame because poems really do offer us a chance to reflect on important human experiences and ideas. A good teacher knows how to encourage that, I think.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I absolutely do give her the benefit of the doubt. I wanted to keep my comment short, but I feel that it's more to do with how exams are structured in Ireland where I live. There's a big expectation in the curriculum that you can answer specific questions about a piece of work, as opposed to the sort of meditative approach you describe. It's a very pleasant difference.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@feral_orc Yes, the “exam approach” to learning in general tends to promote tedious memorization but little in the way of transformative learning. Fortunately, this is increasingly recognized. Best wishes!
@imokin86
@imokin86 2 жыл бұрын
@@feral_orc Same problems everywhere, it seems. The most common criticism of teaching literature in Russia, where I live, is that the teacher is always asking "what did the author want to say with this?", and the answer is to be found in the textbook and nowhere else. By the way, do Irish schoolchildren learn poems by heart to recite them in class? Here it's starndard practice everywhere, but the children are rarely enthusiastic about it.
@pjm9568
@pjm9568 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful, thank you!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@sethulakovic3722
@sethulakovic3722 2 жыл бұрын
I almost get the feeling that the pov character has never been to Innisfree. They have idealized the place in their desire to leave their current location.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
That is a distinct possibility. Sometimes we idealize a place in our memories, but it's perhaps even more possible to idealize a place we've never been to. Thanks, Seth!
@sethulakovic3722
@sethulakovic3722 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thank you Philip for the poetry content. You are fighting the good fight. 😁
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethulakovic3722 I’m trying!
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Yeats had been to Innisfree as a boy. It's an uninhabitated Island in Lough Gill, a lake in County Sligo, where he used to spent his Summers with relatives. So the poem could also be read as a return to childhood innocence. But either way your right. It's an idealised place.
@sethulakovic3722
@sethulakovic3722 2 жыл бұрын
@@brush2canvas849 Thanks for the context. 👍This is why I love Philip and AP's comments, I actually learn things.
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely reading and perfect setting. Are you sure you did not sneek over here to Ireland to record this? I could swear I can hear the waves of Lough Gill in the background. Surely it's just behind those trees.😁
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! I’m afraid it’s New Jersey! But I am fortunate in having a 600 acre forest that is part of a county park in back of my home. It’s where I walk every day and sometimes dream of seeing Ireland.
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Lucky you! I have houses at the back. Actually you have seen Ireland when you watched the Green Knight. It was completely filmed in Ireland, in Wicklow and in Sligo where Lough Gill is. So maybe rewatch when the yearning gets too much.
@hhoi8225
@hhoi8225 2 жыл бұрын
Not huge on Yeats but this is my favorite from him! So true about over-analysis stealing the joy of experiential reading. My sister is annoyed by Imagism right now, and I told her it sounds like she is more worried about "getting" it than allowing it to be what it is and isn't. I prescribed her a short trot through New York School poems with no overthinking allowed, just the experience. I don't know if that will help her with Imagists but it was what came to mind as a way to hopefully subvert the analytical urge lol. 🤔
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a wonderful suggestion, Emily! I would love for more people to feel open to just experiencing a poem. The pressure of having to get it "right" is inimical to the spirit of poetry in general -- at least in my humble opinion!
@esmayrosalyne
@esmayrosalyne 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I liked poetry until I started watching spoken word performances, which I find to be so impactful (and often even emotional). In uni I am now learning that I actually enjoy more 'traditional' poetry as well. While I was a bit overwhelmed by all the terminology at first (which I now recognized and understood in this video, yay), I have come to really appreciate reading poetry. It is indeed such a different experience from reading fiction and it took me some time to adjust. Now that I am going into a poem with the 'right' mindset (and a lot more patience), it is so cool to discover what poems can evoke in the reader. Luckily my teacher also really emphasized that it is not the goal to over-analyze the text, she taught us to just let the text flow and sink in and to interpret it in whatever way feels right for us personally. Thank you for making this video, I really loved hearing you talk about this! :)
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
That’s wonderful to hear, Esmay, and I’m especially happy that your teacher is allowing you to experience the poems without the pressure of coming up with the “correct” interpretation. Poems have added richness to my life - opportunities for reflection, insights into my experiences, and understanding of others. It gives me joy to know that you’re having a positive experience with your studies!
@tokyoreads4019
@tokyoreads4019 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful surprise to see this video in my feed! I’ve been unable to watch booktube the the past few weeks and just opened the app and saw this! Thank you so much for sharing. The Yates poem really speaks to me, as I’m often daydreaming of escaping to nature while in the concrete jungle of the city. It pulled at my heartstrings. Luckily I’ll be escaping the city to for a lovely train ride the ocean for a few days next week. You’ve inspired me to try some more Yates poems on the train. Luckily I have a small private compartment so I’ll give your reading out loud tip a try. Thank you again so much for sharing this with all of us😊
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found and enjoyed the video! Most of all, I’m happy the Yeats poem spoke to you. I hope you’ll have a marvelous time on that train ride to the ocean. Sounds lovely!
@CircesBooked
@CircesBooked 2 жыл бұрын
Upon listening to you recite Yeats' poem, I felt a sense of calm and escape. I felt this return to nature. This appreciation for the beauty and wonders of nature. It's like when I go on vacation, or to the countryside, or even just outside on my balcony and I look out on something of nature- like a flower, or a bird, or even a dewdrop, and I'll have this moment of serenity and gratitude for the way the Earth evolved over time to give me that moment right before my dog pulls me out of it by barking at a squirrel. Sorry for the long comment but I wanted to share my thoughts on the poem because it was very lovely. I haven't read anything from Yeats before and I want to change that now. I also want you to know I appreciate what you do on your channel. We hardly ever see poem breakdowns on Booktube and we should see more of this.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lovely comment! Serenity and gratitude are beautiful responses to nature. You also made me laugh with your remark about your dog since my dog too loves to chase squirrels and doesn’t listen once she’s off running. I deeply appreciate you watching and leaving such positive thoughts in your comment!
@CircesBooked
@CircesBooked 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy these dogs and their hate for squirrels! It makes them so primal😆
@safinan8008
@safinan8008 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video.. 📖🍁
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Safina, and I hope you're enjoying your day!
@MrRorosuri
@MrRorosuri 2 жыл бұрын
💜💜💜
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hanspeter4845
@hanspeter4845 2 жыл бұрын
This was an fantastic video. I really felt the meditative part you mentioned. I was lying in bed and only listening to the video. So when you read the poem it really took me to a lake. Or rather to a coast because in my mind the birds doing bird sounds in the background were seagulls. Also your calming voice was just so enjoyable. Accordingly, I had to watch the video twice to get the content. Which was very pleasant.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Hans! I'm so glad you experienced the video that way. The birds definitely did contribute to the atmosphere, as did the wind in the leaves. That was part of the plan, but I didn't factor in the occasional plane and the one helicopter, which made me stop a few times since I didn't think they'd give the right vibe. Cheers!
@conormurray4159
@conormurray4159 2 жыл бұрын
Love this and would love more videos like it Philip. I'm Irish, my personal favourite Yeats poem is Easter 1916 "a terrible beauty is born". But my favourite Irish poet is without a doubt Heaney. A colossus. I was lucky enough to study English lit in Galway, my education has been heavily tilted towards Irish writers but in all honesty, why venture outside the best ;-)
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Conor! Ireland is indeed blessed with an abundance of fantastic writers, not to mention some excellent music. I also admire Heaney’s work. I’m actually a medievalist, and I always use Heaney’s translation of Beowulf since it’s the best I know. Cheers!
@michaelvcelentano
@michaelvcelentano 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I’ll be pointing my voice students to this as a crash course in analyzing a poem! As an opera singer, my life is analyzing poetry to find the best way to bring prose to life. I think there have been several great setting of this poem
@michaelvcelentano
@michaelvcelentano 2 жыл бұрын
For your listening pleasure: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otpihMWdnt3LpJc.html
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Michael! I can’t think of a better compliment than you pointing out this video to your students. That’s a real honor. I also love your definition of being an opera singer, which is a wonderful calling. I’ll check out the setting of the poem you provided. Cheers!
@fantasticphilosophy181
@fantasticphilosophy181 2 жыл бұрын
Some poems seem to speak to my heart; i can't tell what it's about right away, but i understand it on a subconsious level (i hope that makes sence). Loved this video, thanks!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, poems especially seem able to evoke the language of the heart. I’m so glad you enjoyed this one!
@TheLittleX
@TheLittleX 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was, the idea of a romantic description of what peace might be in the first part. In the second part i get the feeling that he thinks peace is not so easy to get hold of (like drops of water) and in the last part i think he realises that true peace is not a real thing, but can just exist in your thoughts... I know it´s a kind of sad interpretation, but it although gives the hope that everyone can have peace because it' s about your thoughts and not your real life surroundings. The first few words and the last few words combined are "I will arise and go now,....in the deep heart´s core.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely interpretation! Yes, it’s a little sad that there’s so much longing for someplace that might be inaccessible, but as you say, the idea of peace being an inner state is beautiful and somehow empowering.
@robpaul7544
@robpaul7544 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful setting for a poem reading, wouldn't mind seeing more of it. 😊 Something about this poem makes me just feel sad. These seems to be some undercurrent of frustration or even depression that I can't really put my finger on. Maybe it's the stark contrast between where he wants to be and where he is. Maybe it the lack of colors aside from purple and gray, despite describing a scene of nature. Maybe it's because 'bee-loud glade' sounds like 'be loud glade' - a place where you can cry or scream to your heart's content.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rob! We are fortunate in having a 600 acre forest that is a county park behind our home. I walk on trails there every day. I agree about the undercurrent of melancholy in the poem, and it might stem from longing for what one doesn’t have. It also suggests that modern life is alienating and dull, and that, being disconnected from what is natural, we are doomed to long. Fantastic to hear your thoughts, as always!
@AdamThayer
@AdamThayer 2 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite poetry doesn't "do" what poetry is "supposed to do", so it's interesting to hear how beautiful traditional poetry can be. Would love to hear you examine the poetry I enjoy (my two favorites are "Howl" by Allen Ginsberg and "lighght" by Aram Saroyan), or even more poetry in general, it's definitely something I'm not finding on most booktube channels outside of specific instances (like fantasy-centric channels). Would be great to hear someone who is both trained to teach, and passionate about poetry!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed this one, Adam. I’ve done videos on several Malazan poems, which tend not to be too traditional, a few videos on medieval poems, and this video, but I love all sorts of poetry. Close engagement with words is something I find enjoyable and enriching, whatever the form.
@cainandabel7059
@cainandabel7059 2 жыл бұрын
yeats has so many great poems my favorite is "the second coming"
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
That’s an amazing poem!
@benjaminmolina3456
@benjaminmolina3456 2 жыл бұрын
Might we a see a video of you and Dr Fireballs giving a lecture on Malazan in Innisfree? Foreshadowing,eh?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
That would be lovely, Benjamin!
@cabrademora1
@cabrademora1 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Diego!
@imokin86
@imokin86 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Philip, this was a very thoughtful take on this poem, and a nice reading. I like Yeats' poetry a lot, and i came to his works via fantasy literature, when I started looking for poets who explored myths and legends in their work. Is there a special term for this "roughly iambic" metre? In my native Russian, "roughly so-and-so" metres are very common, almost the default mode for contemporary poetry, and there are special names for their subtypes. And one more question. Do you know any contemporary poets who are inspired by fantasy or sci-fi?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Igor! I’m glad you enjoyed this one. The closest term I know for what you’re talking about is accentuated meter, which is when the poem is not written in feet (iambic, trochaic, anapestic, dactylic) but rather in counted accents or stresses (most often four per line). This actually makes sense for English, which is a stress-based language, not a metrical language (like Spanish or French). There are many, many poems inspired by myths, but I don’t know of poets inspired by fantasy or sci-fi, except for fantasy writers like Tolkien and Steven Erikson.
@imokin86
@imokin86 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks, that's what I was looking for. We also have the term accentuated verse in Russian, and then a couple more on top of it. (Talking about Romance languages, they rather count the overall number of syllables per line, be they stressed or unstressed. There aren't always clear feet within a line in French or Italian.) I know one very interesting work of poetry that is a sci-fi story. It's Harry Martinson's epic poem Aniara, originally written in Swedish. He got a Nobel prize in the 70s, an the poem itself is from the late 50s. It's made up of smaller poems that tell one loosely connected story of a giant passenger spaceship gone astray.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@imokin86 Glad to be of help! Aniara sounds like a fascinating read - thanks for telling me about it!
@theresavk483
@theresavk483 2 жыл бұрын
When you said “dropping slow” evoked images of dew, it triggered a memory of a poem called The Song of Ciabhán by Ethna Carbery, a lesser known Irish nationalist poet, where she actually uses the phrase “Slow-dropping dew…” And when I reread the poem, I noticed for the first time some similarities between it and The Lake Isle of Innisfree. Had Yeats influenced Carbery because his poem was published before hers? I presume they knew each other because she had co-founded a women’s organization with Maud Gonne, Yeat’s love interest. Yet, to be fair, I think Carbery’s poem wasn’t published until after she died, so who knows when she actually wrote it? Or are both poems reflective of a strong, collective narrative among Irish nationalists?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I haven’t read Carbery’s poems before, but the possible connection to Yeats’ “The Lake Isle of Innisfree” sounds intriguing. It’s certainly tempting to think there’s some influence there. Thank you for mentioning it, Theresa!
@bparsons1987
@bparsons1987 2 жыл бұрын
Middle and high grade teachers have made poetry a difficult genre to approach. Telling a child you’re wrong when they have an interpretation of some classical poem where the interpretations have been set is a poor way of getting those kids excited about it. And as Allen has said on his channel, kids are being turned away from reading, in this case poems, because they are forced to read work that they can’t connect with.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
All too true, Brett. Most educators are well meaning, but I think the whole philosophy behind our education system based on grades needs a good look.
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