How I FIXED my ZIGBEE MESH (4 tips to try)

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@Rich33527 10 ай бұрын

You should have set the zigbee channel to a channel that is not interfered with by your wifi router. You can actually change the channel in ZHA now. I recently just changed from the default channel 15, to 23 since my wifi was broadcasting on channel 2 and that is close to channel 15 for zigbee. I only had to re-pair a few devices.

@74357175 10 ай бұрын

This is good advice, but the problem is you need to have a router that is capable of keeping the wifi channels constant. Many modern routers auto select the channel, which alas defeats the ZigBee channel setting.

@nickrusso86 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. It was very helpful. I've been having issues with Aqara devices for well over a year and didn't know about the colors on the visualization lines. Makes much more sense now.

@makeitworktech 6 ай бұрын

I'm glad it helps!

@heybravo23 7 ай бұрын

You fixed my mesh network! Subscribed 😊 I thought I needed more repeaters, but what did the trick was "add devices via this device" for each battery sensor directly to each plug repeater.

@makeitworktech 7 ай бұрын

Awesome, glad it helped! Thanks for the sub!

@BlitzFingers 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips. This has helped me understand the UI of Home Assistant better.

@makeitworktech 6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear!!

@w00dwork 10 ай бұрын

Great video! You did EVERYTHING that I did. One added benefit I've seen after adding new router and swapping out my Nortek with the SkyConnect was some devices having more than one connections to controllers. I love the idea of redundancy in case one router goes down, but I haven't quite figured out yet how to force that since the devices that have the redundant connections seems random. Regardless, stability is key and I don't have devices dropping off all the time like I used to! Btw, I enjoyed your subliminal message at 6:48 ;)

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

Hey, I noticed that too about the multiple connections! But yeah, it does seem random. Glad you saw the message haha

@wscottfunk 10 ай бұрын

Hey Aaron, thanks for sharing another great video! 👍 I'm using Home Assistant and I have a lot of Aqara devices, so this was a timely and informative tutorial! BTW, i just bought one of your "one hub to rule them all" tshirts. 👕

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

Glad it'll help! Thanks for buying one! Helps out with the vids!

@Larry67902 10 ай бұрын

I added zigbee routers (singled smart plugs) in places in my house that i had poor zigbee communication. I did this over a year ago and have had no problems with devices lagging or dropping off. I do not have aqara devices as i had to many of them that dropped off the network even with a router close to it, but what you said in your video brings light (pun intended) to that subject. 😀. Just as a FYI the zigbee protocol is in the same bandwidth and even shares some channels with wifi which can be a contributing factor with zigbee devices falling off of the network.

@bradfreeman5291 10 ай бұрын

Great timely video, I am just starting out with Zigbee using the SkyConnect coordinator and ZHA. I read somewhere that Thread only works with ZHA and not Z2M. Would be worth investigating before migrating. Keep up the great videos.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, that's correct that multipan only seems to work with ZHA, so if I switch to Z2M and still wanna use thread I'll have to go with the Sonoff in addition to the SkyConnect

@andreassetterlind 7 ай бұрын

Also note that Silabs EZSP based Zigbee Coordinator adapters are not yet recommend for Zigbee2MQTT, so do not suggest using SkyConnect for Z2M, and instead get a CC2652P based adapter like Sonoff ZBDongle-P (not Sonoff ZBDongle-E) if going to use Zigbee2MQTT, as while a EZSP radio will work fine you will currently not get the backup and restore function or ability to update Zigbee Coordinator firmware from Z2M

@SlackerLabs 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic video Aaron! Lots of good tips in this. I haven't had any zigbee issues, but I have been considering leveraging some of the other hubs, especially since the Aqara hub has matter

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff! I've been staunchly against any other hub but my home assistant hardware, but now I'm starting to think that it might not be such a bad thing to introduce some other hubs into my ecosystem. The only other hub that I use right now is actually the yo-link hub for some long range stuff

@RahulParmar1978 10 ай бұрын

Really helpful video! I have the Home Assistant Yellow so not sure if the Sky Connect would help my regular network problems?

@wscottfunk 10 ай бұрын

The HA Yellow uses the same radio and chipset as the Skyconnect. You already have everything that the Skyconnect offers, built in to the Yellow including Matter and future Thread support.

@suzithewitch 10 ай бұрын

One thing that I did that made moving and re-pairing zigbee devices so much easier was that set up all my automations to use groups. So my automation to turn on lights when the front door opens has a group for the lights and a group for the front door contact. When I change my devices, I only need to update the devices in the group, instead of trying to make sure I get all the automations. It's been a big help when moving back and forth between zha and z2mqtt. 🙂

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

That's an excellent way to handle it! Groups are very powerful. Ideally, when you reconnect a device the automation should pick it back up, but obviously it doesn't. So groups are a great way to handle it. Great info!

@thegeckster1161 9 ай бұрын

Hi Aaron, thank you for the video. This helped my confidence in the technology decisions I've made. I'm starting out with home automation going home assistant, but went the route of the Sonoff dongle-e, which uses the same chipset as the Sky Connect. Since I'm starting out going to follow this to add Thread\Matter support follow the Smart Home Scene post How To Enable Thread And Matter Support On Sonoff ZBDongle-E. Have you heard anything about the Tradfri Repeater? Is this considered a "router" and just interchanging the terms? Going to spend time this weekend consuming your other videos. Thanks.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! Smart Home Scene has some great stuff! I've never heard of the Tradfri repeater, but I'll have to check it out

@Mancubus99 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I have Zigbee, Zwave Bluetooth and wifi devices in my network. By far Zigbee is the least reliable which is a shame as they are the only smart home devices that are usually reasonably priced. Hoping your tips work for me as I'm ready to pull my hair out when an automation doesn't trigger because a Zigbee sensor was not connected to the mesh.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

I hope the tips help! It sure can be frustrating!

@antoniodecrisci2369 9 ай бұрын

Using SkyConnect for ZHA and multi-pan for a couple of thread devices on a single thread network and took me a week but finally it's back to being good. I have this one ikea 2 button remote in my shed that keeps going offline and chewing batteries even though it's about 10 feet from two routers also in my shed is the only device which is a pain so far.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

You have thread working? I wasn't able to get it working except for matter over thread

@antoniodecrisci2369 9 ай бұрын

@@makeitworktechyes, matter over thread that is what I have working. 2 nanoleaf LED strips. That is what you are referring to? Matter comes in 2 different flavours, over wifi or over thread.

@noraddlb 6 ай бұрын

Hey there - I subscribed to your channel - however - I have a few issues I wanted to bring up: 1. My zigbee network seems fine - however - when my door sensors trigger - its as if - its asleep - it takes 2-3 tries for the trigger to happen. Is there a way to make this instant/consistent?

@waynenocton 10 ай бұрын

I’m using zigbee2mqtt and having the same issue, it’s pretty much always the same ones, I put it into permit join mode, and hold the little button until it blinks 3 times, and usually it hooks back up. But, it used to show it dropping and reconnecting, popping up in green, if logs were in debug mode but that doesn’t seem to happen now, but still pairs so I guess I don’t care. Any clue on how to repair the zigbee2mqtt kind? Did you link the new home assistant dongle? Didn’t see that one.

@dewroc66 22 күн бұрын

Conbee 2 and 3 work with most zigbee brands …. Including 3rd reality and aqara and its local Plugs into usb on home assistant device (with usb inputs) Kinda cool device

@makeitworktech 22 күн бұрын

I have the 2, but haven't tried the 3!

@minagirgis2222 10 ай бұрын

Great video! I have been through the same issue, and I thought about the same solutions! Only I never got Skyconnect to work with Z2MQTT for a reason! Does It need firmware update or certain addon before installing to Z2MQTT? Any special config ? Thanks

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I believe it needs a special config. I got HA Yellow working with Z2M, should be the same settings. I showed them in this video, you could try them: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6t9rdqTvtvMgn0.html

@brettautrey4117 26 күн бұрын

I went through the exact same thing. I added the Sonoff s40 lites. It helped but they still dropped off after several days. I ended up moving my HA Yellow device to a different wall of my house and mounted it high on the wall. I've been a week w/o dropping anything.

@makeitworktech 26 күн бұрын

Glad you got it figured!

@MihaiKrieger 10 ай бұрын

Using the Sonoff Zigbee Dongle myself with Z2M and never had this problem. I have mostly aqara devices. It is true, some devices might occasionally drop off the network or become unavailable (the latter mostly true), but in one year, I maybe had to re-pair three times in total across all my devices.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

I can't wait to try that, both the Sonoff and Z2M. Thanks for sharing your experience!

@calebjpryor 10 ай бұрын

CC2652P chips coordinators and routers is the way to go. I bought many from tubes and from sonoff and never regretted it. They get frequent updates on the firmware side and keep my zigbee devices old and new working well.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info, Caleb! Isn't the update process kind of a pain for the firmware for those coordinators, or can it be done OTA?

@calebjpryor 9 ай бұрын

@@makeitworktech tubes can be done ota but the sonoff ones are via USB for upgrade

@Sistopha 7 ай бұрын

The Zigbee Aqara rabbit hole! I m buying an M2 hub and see if they keep dropping off

@makeitworktech 7 ай бұрын

That's an option too! I try to reduce the number of hubs I have as they take up space and are an extra point of failure, but it that works it's a decent option!

@yashgupta8633 10 ай бұрын

After seeing the "add device via router" option in HomeAssistant I wish I had picked that instead of Hubitat.

@1moduleRU 8 ай бұрын

Hello Tell me how to find out if my light switch supports repeater mode? I use the Zigbee WiFi gateway and the TUYA app

@MikeHarris1984 9 ай бұрын

I had this issue with aqara devices. I was told in a forum they do not follow proper ZigBee protocol. So checkin always breaks after a few days. So switched to ZigBee for MQTT Md Nordic USB no longer works with it. So I had to get a conbee2. Rebuilt my entire network. All my devices also never used the router either. Only the coordinator. Since moving to ZigBee4mqtt, my issues went away. Only sensors I still have issues with, is my water leak sensors

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

I'll be switching to Z2M soon!

@retromaniac79 8 ай бұрын

Hey - great video! 😊 I recently migrated from Philips Hue Bridge to Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle Plus E and since then my (very old) LivingColors Iris stopped working reliably. It works kind of well as long as it‘s like in the same room as the coordinator, but as soon as I move it out of the room, it stops working. What bothers me about this is that it was flawlessly working with the Hue Bridge but with the Sonoff coordinator and z2m, the lamp has become basically useless for me. As you suggested, I have many routers in the room in which I want to operate the lamp (like 6 different ones), but it still doesn’t work. When I have it close to the coordinator, I see it only opens 3 connections: 1 to the coordinator and to two other routers. I assume it only has 3 connections because the lamp is quite old. But again, as it worked with the Hue Bridge, I think (hope) it will be possible to get the lamp running with my new setup. Any advice what I could try to fix it is appreciated.

@macfrag574 5 ай бұрын

I'm having almost the same issue, it's a hue Bloom lamp, however it does connect to the network but stops responding immediately, no way to turn it off or set a color, it just goes away.

@retromaniac79 5 ай бұрын

@@macfrag574 After many days of frustration, I setup the Hue Bridge in parallel which now coordinates all my Philips Hue bulbs/lamps and Friends of Hue switches. The Sonoff coordinates things like plugs, sensors, etc. My intention of getting the Sonoff was to get rid of the proprietary Hue bridge, but I had too many issues with the Sonoff alone. The non-working lamp was just one relatively minor issue. Far more severe was the issue of bulbs becoming unavailable very frequently, which I did not yet experience by the time I made that initial comment here. With my new setup, everything works flawlessly.

@Paw_Low 2 ай бұрын

Have you tried moving your zigbee devices into a different zigbee channel?

@leanchasersx 10 ай бұрын

Good troubleshooting. I had a aeotec v3 smartthings hub for 3 weeks. Every night my wifi, thread and zigbee devices went offline and stayed that way for 2 to 3 hrs. I switched to hubitat and now everything stays online but the beautiful things is my wiz wifi bulbs are now run locally. I just add them and block them from the internet in my eero router app. I had bought Eve matter motion sensor because I'm a newbie and thought that it would be best to get where smart devices are going now vs getting them later. However because of the hub switch, they don't work with hubitat because it doesn't support thread devices. Luckily my eero router does, so I managed to still make use of them by connecting them in Alexa. Here is the kicker that I just had to share but maybe you guys already know this. So Alexa can't execute conditional actions that aren't time based*** But it can, at least for my purpose. The eve devices needed to do basic functions, which is turn on/off the bathroom lights. It could become a presence sensor if I could say only turn them off if the door contact sensor is open. So I messed around as I waited on my flight and found that alexa can disable routines using custom actions. Voila, that's all I needed to control my bathroom lighting. Now it knows when I'm taking a sh** vs just quickly washing my hands. I just have the contact sensor disable the motion sensor lights off routine when the door closes then reenable them when it opens. I created a routine that I use verbally that will keep the lights on when I'm shaving and have the door open. I can easily stick this into a button and click it instead of using voice triggers. This problem can easily be solved by just changing the motion sensors but those sh**s were $50 a piece. I'm never buying anything directly from Apple again (only 14 days return period vs 30 from Amazon)...dang it

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

Hahaha the smart home struggles are real! But there's always a way to make it work the way you want!

@MNpale 9 ай бұрын

Had to dump the Sonoff motion sensors. At the same time, I switched to Zooz 800 and zwavejs and now I don't even have to think about these types of issues. It's generally more expensive but worth every penny. Buy nice or buy twice.

@makeitworktech 8 ай бұрын

There is something to be said for the stability of Z-Wave!

@daedalus5483 8 ай бұрын

Can you recommend an inexpensive ZigBee module that can be used with one of the equally inexpensive and available microcontrollers?

@makeitworktech 8 ай бұрын

Do you mean a Zigbee coordinator?

@daedalus5483 8 ай бұрын

@@makeitworktech Thank you very much for your reply/question. I am having a hard time finding the right component(s) for a proof of concept hobby project. In terms of functionality, it could be compared to ESLs (Electronic Shelf Labels) which are communicate via a Zigbee stack. I know of some custom firmware for some brands, and even though the progress there is impressive, the communication between devices and a "server" does not seem to be bi-directional. I'm desperately looking for a combination of a "easily programmable" MCU / chip that can communicate with an e-paper display and a zigbee module, and still have room for a few buttons (and/or an NFC reader).

@JDPurvis 5 ай бұрын

I'm late to the party here, but Aaron if you switched from the Nortek to the SkyConnect you gained Matter but lost Z-Wave....right?

@makeitworktech 3 ай бұрын

Yeah... I actually kept my Z-Wave network on the Nortek, but the Zigbee radio is not doing anything on there.

@EFazy 6 ай бұрын

Maybe you're aware, that between routers, the red lines are OK, since they have much better routes... Also, I'm an user of Z2M from the beginning (I mean, when I started zigbee networks) and looked up ZHA since then, but for me, it looks ZHA cannot do as much with a device, than Z2M can do.. maybe I misunderstood something, but that was my finding, so definetly try it out, since when you reconnect everyting 3 times, the 4th is "whatever" :D Also like to point you out about the 2,4GHz. You can find images on the internet, where you see the WiFi and Zigbee channels overlapping. Try to design your network in a way, that WiFi using Channel 1 for example, and Zigbee using 25, or Wifi using 11, and Zigbee also using 11 (those are different frequencies)... Also if your Wifi on Channel 6, you can safely use Channel 11, 24, 25 and 26 on Zigbee. And of course, if possible, use only one hub, and forget Bluetooth (and any 2,4GHz transmitter) around it, if possible :)

@Pabula 7 ай бұрын

If you are using so many Aqara devices, why not just get a Aqara Router like M2 + some light switches (with neutral) as repeaters?

@makeitworktech 7 ай бұрын

That's an option too! I try to reduce the number of hubs I have as they take up space and are an extra point of failure, but it that works it's a decent option!

@JoPaul 9 ай бұрын

Are you pairing ikea devices to Zha or Ikea gateway?

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

ZHA, i stay away 3rd party gateways when possible, just stick to HA

@alexanderdezius7068 4 ай бұрын

zigbee and wlan has some overlapping channels. that could also cause interference, helped me a bit

@makeitworktech 4 ай бұрын

Good call. I tried playing with that, but no help so I didn't include it in the vid. But heard it has helped

@Loser71sure Ай бұрын

The problem with aqara devices is that they stick to a router. If you add a new router you have to brute force the connection of your aqara sensor to that router. My aqara button was driving me crazy until i figured this out

@ronniemagatti3342 10 ай бұрын

I've got a Sonoff coordinator, same issues as you mentioned in this video, I've also got a ton of sonoff plugs as routers. I'm still not sure what's causing issues but my best guess so far is wifi interference, every now and then when I switch my wifi channels the zigbee network seems to get better, at least until it doesn't anymore.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Hmm strange. I tried switching my ZB channel without much success, but I'm not sure I switched it intelligently

@Bigglare 10 ай бұрын

I blame the coordinators for failing to work around any brand non compliance. Home Assistant or smart things for the most part are the best. Many brands, Hubitat, would blame aqara or ikea for not following standards, but if a hub knows how a brand deviates and doesn't work around it, shame on them. IKEA shortcut buttons work great with HA, or IKEA's own hubs, most other controllers will burn through batteries trying to monitor the button.

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

I see what you mean, it's hard to say. What I like about Z-Wave is that everyone is required to strictly follow the standards so the device is almost always work with the coordinator without issues

@shawnmaker6974 9 ай бұрын

Anyone ever have to disable then reenable their automations for the Aqara button after rebooting HA?

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

I haven't!

@thbe51 6 ай бұрын

I might add that Zigbee uses the same frequencies as your ordinary WiFi on 2.4 GHz. Can cause troubles......

@makeitworktech 6 ай бұрын

Yeah good point. I also tried changing the channel to see if that would help but it did not

@plumbunion 9 ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks! I have a setup which looks eerily similar to yours. The Nortek coordinator, a cluster of sonoff zigbee plugs that act as routers and a bunch of aqara zigbee end devices. I have the same issue that you described: even when I connect end devices through a router, they seem to have a mind of their own. In total, I have around 40 zigbee devices (including the coordinator, router and end devices). What is odd is that the zigbee visualization shows several devices that seem to have no connections to either the coordinator or a router. But they still are connected to the network. Not sure if you've seen something like that. It'll be helpful to understand what this means. Also, some of my zigbee devices are hit or miss. They work around 80% of the time and despite being all local, seem to take some time to respond. For example, there is a definite delay in how quickly the motion sensors trigger. It'll be great to get some tips on how to improve performance and reliability. This is especially true for a couple of Aqara Opple switches that I got. They can't ever remain connected even if I put them right next to the coordinator or a router.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I do have the same thing sometimes where the device does not appear connected, but if you zoom in it doesn't say it's unavailable. I think that's an issue with the ZigBee visualization, but not necessarily true that it is not connected. One thing you could check for is 2.4 GHz interference. It's something I didn't cover because it wasn't really ready to address it, but you can change the channel that you're zigbee network uses, because it often overlaps your 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi channel, which can cause interference and slow or unresponsive devices

@plumbunion 9 ай бұрын

@@makeitworktech Correct. It is indeed just the visualization. I was wondering how your visualization was near perfect :) and how you didn't suffer from the same issue. It'll be nice to know for sure that there is a Wi-Fi interference issue before I change the channel (I am on the default channel 15 right now), especially because it is listed as an experimental feature and I wasn't quite ready to re-add devices from scratch if the migration didn't work. Your video did inspire me to buy the SONOFF zigbee stick (something that I'd been putting off for a while). I'll keep you all posted on how that goes. So I'll have to re-add devices now anyway :) Is there a channel number other than 15 I should try?

@nathanruben3372 5 ай бұрын

I believe with zwave you would never have such problems...

@makeitworktech 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, my z-wave network is much more solid. But z-wave devices are more expensive and there are less options

@cooliipie 7 ай бұрын

This is why i stick with Z wave. I'll pay a little more for them to meet a standard.

@makeitworktech 7 ай бұрын

I agree. All of my wall switches are Z-Wave - super robust

@TGC1775 10 ай бұрын

Oddly enough. Sonoff is being a pain lately for me.

@makeitworktech 10 ай бұрын

Strange! You update to the latest firmware?

@TechySpeaking 9 ай бұрын

first

@shadow.banned 9 ай бұрын

This all looks like a nightmare to deal with. Why bother.

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

For science!

@iqubik 3 ай бұрын

Не сказал ничего важного

@makeitworktech 3 ай бұрын

😂

@MikeHarris1984 9 ай бұрын

ZigBee2mqtt is flat out amazing. Took a bit to get setup,but damn it is so reliable!!!

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

I can't wait to switch! Been testing devices with it for a while

@KeyBored101 9 ай бұрын

I'm new to HA, what's the benefit of using MQTT?

@makeitworktech 9 ай бұрын

@@KeyBored101 using an MQTT broker to me is no better in my opinion, but the support for devices is much better with Z2M

@bobbykaucic Ай бұрын

Sadly, after a year or so of devices dropping for no apparent reason and major difficulties connecting them back on, I migrated from Zigbee2mqtt to Zigbee Home Automation... I see that it's completely opposite to what many are saying, but Zigbee2mqtt was just a painful experience for me. Good luck everyone with establishing a solid Zigbee network :)