How I gamed online data to meet my match: Amy Webb at TEDxMidAtlantic

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11 жыл бұрын

Amy Webb is the CEO of Webbmedia Group, which studies disruptive technologies and advises a worldwide client base of Fortune 100 and Global 1000 companies, government agencies, media organizations and foundations. She is a Research Affiliate at the MIT Media Lab, a Lecturer at Columbia University and serves as a Delegate on the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission. Amy judges many of the emerging tech awards and serves on a number of boards, including SXSW Accelerator and Online News Association. Her new book, "Data, A Love Story: How I Gamed Online Dating to Meet My Mate" (published by Penguin) is available for preorder now and launches nationally in bookstores on January 31.
In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)

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@lineka1 11 жыл бұрын

just about anyone who goes on a million dates and is genuinely looking for and ready for a relationship will eventually meet 'the one." I don't think she gamed the dating process, but she did create a bunch of spreadsheets that she could parlay into a book.

@phase2services 5 жыл бұрын

She nailed it! It's just sales people. Ask for what you want and go get it. Online dating makes easier then ever to meet someone.

@bustymcnutters801 5 жыл бұрын

Well I have to give credit where it's due. This was posted back in 2012 and they already had 2-3 years and a kid behind them at the time. Marriage still going. Argue all you want but it clearly worked for her.

@lorrieroemer4605 10 жыл бұрын

In another TED Talk she said Steve, the IT Guy, ordered a huge amount of food and wine, then left to the restroom and never returned, stiffing her with the $1400 bill. This is a big discrepancy from her report in this TED Talk where she says he pushed the bill toward her and followed her outside the restaurant. Makes me wonder how much of her presentations are the truth. Otherwise, she is very entertaining. Her other TED Talk is much better than this one.

@kungfreddie 5 жыл бұрын

If you tell the truth you dont need a good memory. Her memory is obviously mediocre.

@bobsmith9271 4 жыл бұрын

Men want to find a woman to marry. Women want to find a completed checklist to marry.

@mimijaneemi7549 4 жыл бұрын

Bob Smith no, there are so many men online who lie and just want a hookup...not what she was looking for. And, I’m sure there are an equal number of women who just want to get into a guy’s pocketbook. Someplace in the middle are the still-honest, truly dateable men and women. But I’m not sure they are the majority online.

@Chantwizzle 10 жыл бұрын

In her original talk, "Steve" takes off and leaves her with the bill. She says he goes to the bathroom and doesn't come back.

@donvee2000 4 жыл бұрын

Big difference from a guy pushing the bill at her and lighting a joint. I was thinking it was BS. What woman's gonna stick around after being made to pay.

@rogerhuggettjr.7675 5 жыл бұрын

As a guy 2 weeks divorced after a 17 year marriage I don't know if I should be scared at how singles think or happy that so many men have lowered the bar for me to look spectacular by not being a nut case.

@iluvhopndballet 9 жыл бұрын

Jesus freakin Christ, it's a pit hold down here in the comments. How easy is it for many of you guys commenting to throw dirt at this woman and attack her personal choices. Also those commenting on how "ugly" she is, have you forgotten that beauty's in the eye of the beholder? Fucking hell, can you stop being so hateful as you cozy down on your chair and spit mean comments safely from behind a screen. I don't agree with all her methods, however I found it entertaining. If you have nothing positive to say, then don't say anything at all.

@sinkistx 2 жыл бұрын

It’s the internet. 7 years ago, so takeoff eh? Takeoff hoser

@grapiken7766 9 жыл бұрын

I think she's used online dating in a practical way, but I also think she's been LUCKY. I would like to know how many other people have used this technique and not not had success.

@johnnydoe5589 8 жыл бұрын

+Gra Piken None. Most women who use OLD don't try ( "If you want to know about me, just ask..." ) or give some sort of story about being "forced" into OLD (A friend made me do it) or feign interest (I suppose I'll try this site--but I'm not paying for it!). Your average OLD coach will lie and say women accept OLD, but they have really not if you delve into it just a smidge.

@trevorryder9732 10 жыл бұрын

:') i kinda teared at the end, modern day love story.

@danascully8361 10 жыл бұрын

I'm confused. I watched Amy's other video and she said that Steve went to the bathroom before the bill came and she was forced to pay the whole bill herself and she never saw Steve again. HMMMM.

@aaroc8201 10 жыл бұрын

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.

@user-ln6pu7kq9j 9 жыл бұрын

dana scully Yeah! I still love her story though lol

@LemonNation 9 жыл бұрын

Hah, some obvious embellishing. You really think he lit up a cigar sized doobie in the middle of the street?

@donshade 6 жыл бұрын

Steve probably sensed he was being played by Amy. So this could be why he "pushed the bill toward her or went to the men's room and didn't come back."

@ManMartin 5 жыл бұрын

It is true!

@r.o.5341 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. This is really incredible. Great work

@Fresh-sh2gc 2 жыл бұрын

Is this a joke? Its so much easier to find someone when u have 100 matches in ur queue every week. Like wtf. Guys cannot do this tho.

@howardjohnson2138 5 жыл бұрын

She's good and I find this pretension very interesting. Thank you

@WestCParallel49 10 жыл бұрын

I feel like people here are arguing over the wrong things and not seeing the importance of her talk/algorithm/success (or maybe just threatened by the idea that an algorithm can be just as capable if not more so than human intuition in such a deep human aspect such as love/mating). Leaving all the personal attacks on her and her family aside AND forgetting about Steve as either a fictitious or real guy let's consider her main point of deduction: that she created an algorithm for what she valued, gathered data (whether ethical or not) about base rates, and created a formula that worked for HER in the end. What is so wrong with the idea that algorithms can be used to help individuals, especially in the heart breaking realm of love? It seems to me that anyone who is single should not be so quick to dismiss her idea until they have tried it for themselves? If anything she is providing single people a way to actually enhance their dating lives through intelligent analysis.

@hendrayahya3303 4 жыл бұрын

She is clever and expert with data and algorithm that's for sure

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD! She is Lilith from Cheers!

@bobo-wf1jv 5 жыл бұрын

... and I don't date. I fell in love with a sailboat.

@kristinpaquette 5 жыл бұрын

This is such a good concept !

@fritzsalzmann 10 жыл бұрын

It started to become fun at the end.

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

Worst Dates: #1: Jewish Girl, spent the entire date returning items at Nordstroms. #2: FORMER Scientologist who turned out to be a RABID Scientologist. #3: Phillipa American Princess. looks 8, personality 2. #4: The Stalker. Picked a fast food restaurant. Left the comedy club after 30 minutes. Spent 60 minutes parked down the block from her ex's home (with me in the car), seeing if he was alone.

@donvee2000 4 жыл бұрын

Damn bro are you kidding me.... She's took you to her ex's?

@Peaches6117 10 жыл бұрын

Not sure where you picked up that she was lazy and didn't fill out her info, but she specifically said she did, and then researched why that wasn't working for her. I actually thought she spent a great amount of time and energy to make the system work appropriately for her.

@sachinagarwal3469 3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful Analytics !

@allanrockwell 11 жыл бұрын

We still don't know if he really was a baby seal hunter...

@bhavikamam4804 11 жыл бұрын

She's awesome!

@ladyadaeze 7 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love this video! Shows how online dating can work to suit you! stealing the idea!

@rakatinni 6 жыл бұрын

me too!

@wariswrong4920 5 жыл бұрын

If a man stood there and condemned women for their physical characteristics, even those they can do something about, he'd be loudly booed off the stage and probably fired from his job and unable to find another.

@kcampbell841 10 жыл бұрын

I love her point about not listening to others advice and that she had been too afraid to ask for the man she really wanted. So now I am no longer afraid. I do not want to be with a man who eats meat, it won't work for me. I will never cook that as someone's wife or buy it.

@luciaschieffer8958 2 жыл бұрын

loved it

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

Standards are there because we like to discuss issues with people who know what they are talking about because they have actually studied the subject rather than mere neh saying because they like to be argumentative.

@PamOnodera 11 жыл бұрын

5 stars!

@Leticiapais_ 5 жыл бұрын

THIS WOMAN IS A GENIUS!!!

@helvede-qp7kj Ай бұрын

no, she is a nerd

@DavidPirez 10 жыл бұрын

Yup, noticed. She should probably give a warning at the beginning of the talk that an indefinite amount of details have been embellished for the purpose of making the talk more entertaining. Still interesting and fun, though.

@Adri9570 3 жыл бұрын

Am I realist or just extremely optimist if I say that this will save a lot of time + effort + suffering to people that should not have matched in first place. Think about it: previously you probably had to face X number of "probematic" people (problematic from your own point of view) for each time you match a "nice" person, but with this system you can "skip" that X number of problematic people (+suffering involved) and that X people can faster find people more suited to them and avoid you. Therefore, you don't get disturbed by that X number of people and you don't disturb them. Everyone wins!

@ViolosD2I 10 жыл бұрын

The thing is that you do not need a scientist to know that looking for "adventure" and "gaming to have fun" will get you lots of male attention on a dating site. Though most of this would hardly be the kind of attention she was looking for.

@Zane-It 7 ай бұрын

That goes for many male dominated hobbies. Like seriously ask girls who are into Base Ball and foot Ball they get it alot.

@MesRevesEnRose 6 жыл бұрын

Men in this comment section are SHOOK. They feel so threatened that an "average-looking" woman had the ~audacity~ to ask for what she wanted and not settle. 😂😂

@DeadNoob451 5 жыл бұрын

Not really. First of all you seem to be a very shallow minded person if you think that only looks matter, and secondly they both seem to be equally unattractive so i doubt that anybody is "threatened".

@NoOne-kx2hk 5 жыл бұрын

or that she made catfish look legal and somehow cool? the irony is lost in you apparently

@wariswrong4920 5 жыл бұрын

If a man stood there and condemned women for their physical characteristics, even those they could do something about like weight, he'd be booed off the stage and fired from his job.

@TV-ob1if 4 жыл бұрын

False. Men aren't "shook". Many simply marvel at the fact that someone so unattractive physically had the audacity to demand what she wanted. It's not a matter of being threatened , it's merely us laughing at how she has a lot requirements when she has very little to give other than witty reparte and humor.

@donvee2000 4 жыл бұрын

I always laugh at the 6ft requirement... especially when only 15% of American men are that height. Guess it's fine to demand that...as long as you accept the fact you'll only have a 15% chance of meeting your ideal man. Good luck ladies... Your gonna need it. MGTOW

@MarianoGianni1 4 жыл бұрын

It's so easy for women.

@MsShellectable 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent speaker, fascinating topic.

@Qwertmeupbiatch 10 жыл бұрын

She could have saved a helluva lot of time filling the "questionnaires" properly instead of taking weeks to develop a ludicrously complex system for dating essentially superfluous in nature. Anyone with a shred of common sense would know not to copy and paste their resume onto an online website. Ah well, at least she's able to forge another living from an undoubtedly nugatory book on fortuitous love.

@SuperQuelyn 9 жыл бұрын

I just want to know, when she made the fake male profiles, whose pictures did she use? I can't imagine girls messaging a guy who doesn't have multiple pictures.

@reercudi Жыл бұрын

The presentation is interesting. But it's even more interesting how much she did in her drunken state. I wonder if she really was so productive during that time or she was drunk for an extended period of time...

@verbaluk1 11 жыл бұрын

They didn't qualify for a long term relationship according to her (very specific) criteria. If you imagine all dating site members using the same method of personal requirements there are plenty of people for whom they would qualify.

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

Funny how those with low egos lash out when confronted with the truth. You might not thank me today but a good period of introspection should bring you back to normality.

@UneVoiePourLHomme 10 жыл бұрын

What i got from this video is simple, she is a failure as a women and she used the oldest trick in the book "lying" by creating a "super" profile to con a poor man into marriage. She wrote a book about it, she is doing lectures to further make her husband a living punch line... Can we all say that she don't respect him, and therefore she is settling and her story is more about the power of the baby clock ?

@ricksterp4378 5 жыл бұрын

Not surprising that in the end, she decided to monetize her experiences. Running her past dates over with a bus for a buck.

@allison4882 3 жыл бұрын

casting yourself in the best light by being thoughtful about what's in your profile is not lying

@user-kt1no7yx1u Жыл бұрын

@@allison4882 exactly, lying would be using filters and putting a dishonest weight and height and information, not choosing good photos and keeping your profile short

@IDislikeTheNewYoutube 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine that, you got a know a fella and he treated you well. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

@CaptGage 10 жыл бұрын

She does sound like a mathematician.

@tatyanawebb4362 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@DavidBrown-pp5tt 5 жыл бұрын

If you want to attract a Man. Be a Woman. If you want to control a man find a beta man. I think as a man you should be a gentleman and treat you date as a person first. If you see her as a real human with feelings and insecurities just like you. You will have better relationships with them. When you play the game you relationship will be a game.

@niliq 10 жыл бұрын

So that's what I've been doing wrong... TO MICROSOFT EXCEL!

@williamlee7782 3 жыл бұрын

While entertaining, this is conflicting for me to digest. Her tenacity in gaming the system just to find her life partner is worthy of the journey and story in itself. However, she resisted being her natural authentic self and used data to cue her in on 'who' she should be online and 'how' she should look like. While this can be tremendous for self reflection, as long as she stays within this new frame of being to keep the relationship, I think it can be a huge miss for others that may be drawn to this tactic of finding love. From a higher perspective, she learned how the matching services work to promote certain profiles and thus increased her impression rate significantly. That in itself is gold. I just hope her husband will continue to be in love with her as who she is and not a person she became just for gaming online dating services. And if she did become that new version of herself, then I'm hoping she finds authenticity in being this new women as part of her personal growth journey. 🙏 And therefore, the lesson should had been about be (authentically) the person that your ideal match would fall in love with. She's ascertained what many of us had not yet and it's inspiring. Namaste

@johannesswillery7855 2 жыл бұрын

Ninety percent of women swipe right on ten percent of men.

@Coldpaws 11 жыл бұрын

The main lesson I got from this was that: -she was lazy and didn't fill out the questionnaires, meaning the algorithms on the websites didn't have HER PREFERENCES in order to better match her up. This is like complaining her eventual scoring system didn't match her up well if she had put number values to random traits she may or may not care about. Garbage in, garbage out, no matter the algorithm.

@SeenaTabatabai 3 жыл бұрын

What is a good dating AP Amy?

@HornsPlentiful 8 жыл бұрын

How did she get all the data to score all the men that were messaging her? Did she look at every single person's profile and try to extract data from that?

@sinkistx 2 жыл бұрын

She is woman, she pick from the endless list of lonely d00ds

@samrothstein1521 10 жыл бұрын

In the other version of her / this talk, she says she copy&pasted from her resume.

@rubberonasphalt 10 жыл бұрын

So did the I.T. guy skip out on her, or did he really leave her the bill? I think someone is pandering for sympathy here...

@allison4882 3 жыл бұрын

sounds like he didn't leave the restaurant and leave her with the bill but he made her pay

@maxlittle1063 7 жыл бұрын

I'm a man and I've thought about posting fake profiles of women to get ideas about what the popular men say/do that I don't. I wonder where she got all the photos for her fake male profiles? I where would I get them to make fake female profiles? I bet what she really did is hacked into the dating website and deleted her competitor's messages to the men she liked or changed the photo that was attached to the message they were sending so they looked ugly. What if someone who worked at the dating site also had a profile and manipulated other people's communications to their advantage?

@NoOne-kx2hk 5 жыл бұрын

this is catfishing at it's best! Isnt there some ethics in science involved?

@chloelee6046 10 жыл бұрын

As another busy single woman, I decided to see if I can replicate her hack for love myself

@LuckysLair 4 жыл бұрын

She's hilarious, congratulations

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

If thats you in the video's on your channel, I don't think you are going to be around long enough for me to have a "period of introspection." Maybe we should just agree to disagree so you can enjoy the time you've got left.

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

Taking 📝

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

10:30

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

(Begin with Account) Channel Profile:Name The meaning of your name; Doe Picture ❤ Details About

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

Law of Attraction

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

11:11 Numbers Numerology Synchronization Bible, The Law of the Universe

@IamMarjoree 2 жыл бұрын

The Stream

@Dascotter 10 жыл бұрын

He is not. He is an optometrist.

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

Jewish law forbids marrying out. It's not a racist issue just a command from on high.

@ericli3004 6 жыл бұрын

Parse a list, IT indeed 😄

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

You don't even understand "period of introspection" so why should I think you capable of understanding anything else?

@Prisqua 10 жыл бұрын

Who cares about the IT guy and the bill. This is online dating and it is real. And filling out those questionnaires to get better matches is total BS. None of the matches I am being sent are men I would consider. But then again, I might be too picky too...

@Yaalah 10 жыл бұрын

Well?

@QldTechie 4 жыл бұрын

Mazeltov

@NoOne-kx2hk 5 жыл бұрын

why do I have the feeling that if I do that I would be locked up for advanced catfishing??

@DavidBrown-pp5tt 5 жыл бұрын

A classic approach by a numbers woman. Women pick tools to help them become better. This works mostly for the short term breeding part of the relationship. Men eventually want to find someone who they don't feel like is testing them constantly. Especially if they have a some balls. Some beta men will stick with a controlling partner because they lack self confidence in individualism. Some women want to be the Alfa and they look for male batas. Really a good relationship that has a long term possibility is when either the partner finds joy in giving or they have the same personal ideals and Achieve them at equal levels. This story is one that is positive but not one to follow unless you want a certain kind of numbers relationship. If you are about passion, spontaneity Adventure and unpredictability this approach would literally drive you mad!

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

I can only have intelligent conversations with intelligent people, sadly for now this will not be possible with you.

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

I'm a Jewish guy (atheist really). I attended a party where I spoke with a female Jewish Psychologist. She did her doctoral dissertation proving that Jewish men who married non-Jewish women had a lower level of ego-strength than those who married Jews. I married a non-Jewish woman, so I was pretty offended. She said her research had proven her point. I suggested that her research was driven by a need to explain to her mother why she was 30 and unmarried. We didn't talk again.

@jimstagias3455 10 жыл бұрын

Saw lots bet u did same think about

@panda59043 4 жыл бұрын

you need to meet someone in Grad school.

@werasd1998 11 жыл бұрын

ok lets see most of the guys that were good werent even qualified for a long term relationship i wonder does that mean EVERY GUY is bad? or just her expectations are too high? hmm

@user-kt1no7yx1u Жыл бұрын

No, it means all of those guys were bad FOR HER. Her perfect match would've been a terrible match for me, but she's probably rejected guys i would've loved. Everyone has different values

@Pixelblurr 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna call BS on women not lying about their weight. I've seen a massive % of women's profiles who have their weight as "Average" or "A few extra pounds" and if that's true, then I'm literally just a skeleton. Never have I met up with a girl who was 5'9" when they put 5'3".

@user-kt1no7yx1u Жыл бұрын

Average or a few extra pounds isn't a lie though

@BlackPinoy869 4 жыл бұрын

Online dating doesn't work for men women who never reply

@protravel999 5 жыл бұрын

Her arrogance may be offputting, but I gotta admit what she did was nothing short of brilliant.

@robertfrapples2472 9 жыл бұрын

Since she disabled all comments on "How I Hacked Online Dating", I'll post my comments here. The reason Amy Webb had so much trouble with online dating stares her right in the face, every time she looks in a mirror. It's the same reason why "non-online dating" obviously never worked for her either, ergo the attempts at online dating. Calling her "plain" would be a supreme compliment. Not calling her at all would be more likely. In an attempt to awaken her to reality, I HEREBY CALL FOR A VOTE ON THIS WOMAN'S APPEARANCE ON THIS SITE. I'LL START THE BIDDING WITH A SOLID, HONEST 3 OUT OF 10. That's the REAL reason she had to settle for a bald-headed baby seal hunter.

@UdoADHD 8 жыл бұрын

She is so ridiculously INTJ, it's not even funny.

@ighalomonday3899 11 жыл бұрын

Haw can somone find tru lov stephen

@NoOne-kx2hk 5 жыл бұрын

I am a woman, hear me... catfishing guys! It's cool when I do it though and since it's for science and all, so dont be crybabies! (the moral synopsis)

@Yaalah 10 жыл бұрын

She might have merged two awful but true stories to relate them more simply.

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

Oh, I never met a Jewish woman lacking in ego strenght... You could cut a dimond with the ego of most Jewish women I know.

@atamtaki9336 4 жыл бұрын

Very cheesy love story of a salesman. But... most importantly BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK

@HaveANiceDayDude 7 ай бұрын

For someone who puts so much emphasis on grammar and pronunciation (and is really pretentious about it) her own errors were really grating

@Yaalah 10 жыл бұрын

Boy that is one negative spin! In her defense. She wasn't dishonest on her profile, she just dumbed things down to the vagueness of your average online dating profile. And how far can one keep a con going? I mean, her appearance and intelligence are evident after a few dates. I think she portrays her husband as a perfect knight in shining armor, if anything. I'd certainly chub up if my girl felt I met this woman's tier 1 (e.g. dynamite in bed). If he's 6''1 and 180 lbs, she def didn't settle.

@RichardGMoss 10 жыл бұрын

She's right but failed to miss out on your lack of pride in your heritage.

@cameriqueTV 4 жыл бұрын

What does she mean by being into baldies; she didn't want mpb on the back of his head. It will get there eventually.

@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын

I can understand your preference for Mr. Hitchens, but he is not available. I can't help but notice you've made no attempt to defend your position, but instead make ad hominem attacks. You know, Hitchens took an ad hominem as a sign of victory. He believed that anyone not able to refute his point attacked him instead. Your god calls out for a champion and this is the best you can do? Not a surprise, but disappointing none the less.

@GabrielKnight666 10 жыл бұрын

I wonder how long her marriage will last. I give them maximum 10 years before she decides that the guy wasn´t "good enough" and then takes the kids and makes him pay alimony.

@frepi 10 жыл бұрын

I guess unmarried Jewish girl also have a weaker ego strength. Maybe that would make another good doctorate topic

@Stringwar 4 жыл бұрын

She became the most popular person on the site. Sorry but no. This is just an overload advert for a book providing the hopeless with false hope.

@jimmyconway294 2 жыл бұрын

She’s a two-bagger, and that’s being kind.

@jameslandryii6595 4 жыл бұрын

she needs to be admitted

@samrothstein1521 10 жыл бұрын

I remember her date with steve quite different...so I guess it is just made up. Like everything else.

@donvee2000 4 жыл бұрын

I knew it sounded fake... Especially when the guy pushed the bill at her. OMG the audacity... I've dated plenty of women I paid for.. Then never hear from again. I don't mind if they weren't into me... But then they should at least pay their half of the bill. Women don't want equality... They want supieority.

@mrsins 6 жыл бұрын

you can tell she is lying about half of her story. why is she lying? who knows.

@SuperAussm 2 жыл бұрын

I do love this story but sadly, this is the female side of the story, men are well... not treated quite this nicely. We in essence have to take what we can get and its depressing.

@gaguy1967 9 жыл бұрын

in her original video she complained that the guys online werent good looking, but she chose a guy who wasnt that good looking

@LemonNation 9 жыл бұрын

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no?

@gaguy1967 9 жыл бұрын

no, it isnt

@johnnydoe5589 8 жыл бұрын

+gaguy1967 Truth! All this fuss and trolling OLD sites and she ended up with her male clone. If she was realistic right off the bat, this is who she would have ended up with. That guy wouldn't have turned her date invite down.

@painfreesunrise 8 жыл бұрын

+gaguy1967 well I find him good looking. and Looks are not everything!

@UdoADHD 8 жыл бұрын

lol!