ah I love hearing this - hope the busking is going well!

Cheers Jeremy! And most welcome mate!

awesome! Glad it was useful for you 😊

dude I love this - makes me so happy knowing some of this stuff helped you get into playing around more with loops and having fun!

I appreciate your comment letting me know! :) Glad you enjoyed/appreciated it!

Thanks Martin! Have fun with the looper!

Thanks so much 😊

Thanks Norbert! Really appreciate this! :)

Most welcome! Thanks for the comment and appreciation 👌

David if I was in the market for an acoustic guitar to do the live looping thing - which one would you recommend. I looked at the Takamine web page and there is a bewildering selection! Cheers @@davidshanhun

You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!

Cheers! Yep i get videos uploaded once a week usually so should be some useful ones amongst em for you! Welcome to the fun world of looping!

Glad you enjoyed it! Fun times exploring the looping world eh? :)

Most welcome!

ah thank you! most welcome for the tips - happy playing!

you're most welcome! 😍

most welcome - glad you enjoyed it!

thank you :)

Most welcome!

thank you so much ❤️ would be fun to do some vids so who knows - a lot been changing in that company over the last 5 years in the background though eh! Be very curious (like a lot of us), to see if there's ever a Voicelive 4 or similar product created down the track haha!

Thanks Ashley! Your set at the Sound House is cool! Where are you based?

@@davidshanhun Thanks - that's my own material - I'm actually a professional wedding singer/guitarist - check out www.ashfrancismusic.co.uk if you have time. I'm based in the UK. Im looking to introduce the looper into my evening set to get more of a part vibe going. The biggest issue I am having is feedback on the vocals. I am considering setting up another mic with an on/off switch to address this. If you have any other tips I would be really grateful!

most welcome :)

yeah fully! Somethings are crazy challenging - just got asked to loop Bohemian Rhapsody haha! Glad you're enjoying the videos too mate! ...I LOVE that you posted this btw - I always get asked where I am from!! Singing wise I'm mostly listening to foreign artists, and I think that flows through to my accent sometimes even though speaking it's still much more 'kiwi' than when I sing!

hey Igovantes :) I think both are pretty valuable - super nice to just create on the spot also. I tend to practise my format/structure much more when I'm doing specific songs. This one was actually for a wedding, so I wanted to get it really dialed in and pretty much the same each time haha! How do you find the RC-300?

Thanks Ronnie! Let me know how you get on 👌 will look at doing some more of this style down the track then eh?

Thanks so much for the comment I really appreciate that! I'm so glad that the videos are useful and you're enjoying them AND getting to experiment more with the RC300 because of it. this is awesome!

Thanks Christian! Glad you enjoyed it! Def on my list to do some more breakdowns of tunes!

thank you so much! :)

Thanks Opa! I'm glad you found it useful! happy practising! 😊

sweet! Glad you got some ideas from it! :)

ah thanks! :)

you're welcome - so glad you enjoyed it!

Hey Nick! Curious how you are finding the RC300 just getting started on it. I was 98% close to buying one last night haha! I think it is going to happen...

David Shanhun hey man. Gotta say it’s great. Setting up templates with a lower recording volume is important. The on board bass effect is average but you have that covered. I’m going to set up the fix switch as mic record off so I choose when to loop vocals or not. If that doesn’t do what I think it does then I’ll get a mic splitter (talk box) so I can go direct to the mic pre or choose to loop the vocal. My issue with buying one now is it must be at the end of its product life cycle and I’m sure there will be a better version at NAMM 2020 but ah well... in short it’s great for what we do man. Love your work dude.

Yuss! Cheers Paul!

Thanks! You too!

yay!

ah thanks! Hope this helps you create some cool loops and tunes!

Thanks! Haha is your OC3 hiding in a cupboard getting dusty somewhere atm? 🤔

@@davidshanhun Thanks for the reply. Not stuck in a cupboard, but I hardly use it. I would use it much more if I could get it to sound cleaner. At the moment it often sounds dirty and distorted unless I turn down the treble on my Takamine's onboard pre-amp. If I do that I can play bass lines on the lower strings but don't get an acceptable guitar sound on the other strings. My guess is that the OC-3 is very sensitive to the quality of the input signal and piezo pickups don't give a clean signal (compare a piezo pickup to putting a mike in front of the guitar and you can easily hear the slightly harsh metallic sound from the piezo). Your OC-3 sounds fine on that Bruno Mars number while you are playing all six strings. I assume that you set yours to POLY. What are your other settings? Keep the videos coming, it's all good stuff!

@@eekamoose hmmm that's interesting that you get a distorted sound from the pickup :( might be a silly question, but have you tried having a lower overall volume on your guitar that's going into the oc3? Just in case somehow your guitar is genuinely sending too much signal for it? just a thought although I'm sure you've tried this most likely! Yes - set to Poly, I go through all my specific settings for the OC3 in this video if you haven't seen it - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNt4e9V2qbyqY2Q.html. Maybe that will help you get a better sound from it or some ideas to try. I find with anything that does bass it can be quite fiddly to get sounding good, and even with the octave I use from the VL3, I have to be SUPER clean to get a nice sound from it or it just ends up really odd (and not pleasant haha). Be curious to know if you get a good sound from the OC3 by being really really careful to play just one note (and muting all other strings). If you can get a good sound doing that from one note, it might help your problem solving journey with the issues you mentioned about the piezo pickup etc. Sorry if it sounds like a silly thing to try (or that you already have), that's just my go to option to kind of troubleshoot stuff like this as it makes it easier to hear exactly what's going on with the Octave doubling process!

@@davidshanhun Thanks very much for the long reply, David! Your idea that the signal from the guitar might be too hot gave me a new idea. I know that my OC3 tracks much more cleanly when I turn down the treble on my Takamine's pre-amp -- I've always assumed that backing off the treble gives the OC3 a smoother waveform which is easier to process. I'm going to try turning down the treble a little on my pre-amp upstream of the OC3 and boosting treble downstream of the OC3. I'll do some experimenting and tweaking and post back here if I find settings that give me an improvement. By the way, which model Takamine do you use in these videos, and which pre-amp do you have sitting in it? Is it a TK40 pre-amp? Your Takamine/OC3 setup sounds really sweet in your videos. I'm pretty confident that I can get my nice Japanese Takamine PTU508 to sound as good, I just need to find the sweet spot!

Nice! Hope the tweaking and experimenting is going well :) My Takamine is an old ND 15c, with the AD1 preamp/pickup. Don't think they're particularly around anymore, but I'm sure with tweaking you can get a nice sound that you like from your gear! :)

yay! That's the best thing I can hear! Hope you come up with some cool loops! :)

Hi! Thanks for the feedback and comment it's much appreciated! The microphone is an Aston Origin - amzn.to/3bVUzND - I really like it 😊

Thanks! :)

it's been on my mind actually! Watch this space :)

yay! Have fun experimenting with it all!

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thanks Dave!

Thanks Stephen 👌

Thanks Jonathan! Biggest thing I enjoy with the acoustic looping is being able to get the percussive sounds from the guitar body! Possible on electric still but have to be a bit creative I think. My fav is Paul David's 7 fun looping songs at 5:44 where he uses the cash for his rhythm sound haha.

Tried tapping rhythm on my acoustic to loop over. It actually worked pretty well. I am put more effort in it next time and see what happens.

I really like the OC-3 for it's option to have bass and guitar at the same time - with only the bass strings doubling as the octave (you set the range on the pedal). As a stand alone octave pedal, it's pretty good, although there are a lot of options that I haven't tried... The POG's are rated really highly in general although I haven't owned one myself - could be another option though - amzn.to/3awg0nS

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Alex! Thank you very much for this - very kind and much appreciated thank you brother!

hey Gernot! Glad you've been enjoying the videos! I've been using the ultimate -guitar app on my ipad for handy access to lyrics and chords etc. Super handy at a show to be able to search and learn something on the fly, or have scrolling lyrics for a one-off song etc.

@@davidshanhun Thanks for your response! Yes, the Ultimate-Guitar App is really usefull. I can recommend it to every guitarist as well. Have a nice day and happy looping ;-)

@@fotowue thanks! You too! 👌

haha thanks! Yep... Ditto x4 comes with me to gigs (at least in the car). You just never quite know when the VL3 might throw a tantrum!

haha love it! 😉

Thankyou!! Can do this is any mode of the dittox4 seeing as we are just using the one track. Once you’ve recorded a loop just click the same button again and it records whatever you play overtop of the original loop! 👌will aim to add in feet next time, thats why i added the text this time though haha! Useful to see everything all at once though i do understand!

great way to watch videos haha! 😊

Thanks Wallace glad you enjoyed this! Liking the x4, nice to use a loop pesal where the buttons are always the same haha! (Not like the different screens etc on the VL3!). Have you tried the x4?

David Shanhun I was toying with the idea of getting one but I read up so many guys having unusual problems with them. So I opted for a RC 30 as I have the VL3 also and my main looper for work is the RC 300. So I needed a looper for home as I leave my gear locked up in London at the gig as I play six times a week. But I really like the look of the X4. Idea the stop button act as an all stop or do you have to hit it twice.

Interesting to hear! Ive only had great reports about the ditto (but obviously not the vl3 haha!). Makes sense to have a looper at home as well mate, great to have things set up ti just jump in and practise with. Im veery glad for the stop all button with one tap/hit. Makes things super simple. I would actually prefer though the instead of the 4th button being fx, that it was a ‘start all’ button! Buuuut i’ll keep hoping for a new version with all the bits i want in it eh?!

David Shanhun yea so true. I always have never understood why so many loopers lack the all start and stop button. And why so many loopers just keep coming out as single track. I need two minimum. 🤣🤣 but then again I am a gear slut totally. I see gear and I want tit. Now I’m heading to Canada next week to visit my daughter and I’m hoping to pick up a Godin Nylon multiac thin body guitar. Just love the nylon string vibe. More money 🙄. Oh well why not. Ha ha. Have a great weekend bud and please do more vids.

@@davidshanhun How difficult can it be to remap the Stop button to have an all start function when stopped in a future Firmware update? I don't see it being too hard to do.

My favourite is definitely the boss Rc-300. The scope of having that 3rd channel is amazing. 👌

Man thanks for this comment Jeffrey! Appreciate it. I actually use the ultimate guitar tab app for lyrics. Sometimes it has heaps of odd chords, but i’ve usually learnt the chords already and just like how easy it is to scroll with that app plus change the speed or size of text. Not all tunes have the full lyrics though which is a downside sometimes...

I have Ultimate Guitar’s app(s) too - they’re great. What I’m searching for is an app that scrolls the lyrics for live use. They have their Autoscroll mode but it’s never the right speed and it can’t jump back and forth for the chorus, etc. Hey - just saw your touring announcement. Congratulations! Consider me a fan rooting for you!

Yes that's true - they won't jump back and forth for chorus parts etc, so sometimes can be better to find one with the wrong chords etc or that's unpopular, where the person has written out all the words/choruses/repeats in full and in order. You can change the scrolling speed, and font size if that helps. Other than that I did use On Song for a while, but that was quite a long time ago. Maybe something you're familiar with already or could look at if not? Thanks for the tour support! Been a LONG time since I hit the road and I'm really looking forward to it. Will be some video's from there as well Im sure :)

In my previous life (I'm retired now), I was an app developer. I sometimes think of writing an app now that listens to what you're playing to find the beat and then scrolls based on the real timing of measures of lyrics along with understanding the structure of the song to move back and forth for the chorus, DS al coda, etc.

that'd be an awesome app! There's voice recognition software that should easily enough be able to keep up with what you're singing eh?

I have watched quite a few Paul David's videos! Not that I was aware of for the video edits haha, I've been watching Matti Haapoja and Peter McKinnon heaps for video inspiration though! :) I'm a baby filmmaker though haha!

@@davidshanhun I followed and tagged you in an insta video which is uploading. Be interested to hear your thoughts 😊

@@AidanMooreacoustic off to check it now :)

Thanks Stephen!

Hi Karl - if you watch at 1:45 or so in the video - you can see my right hand picking the bass note of each chord with my thumb while I play the main riff with my fingers. That's all just the acoustic guitar sound, no effects or anything for the first loop. Hope that helps!

biggest thing I miss using the x4 versus the VL3 is that 'start all' button that you can map with the VL3 to start loops A+B at once. Otherwise from the looping side I'm happy as with the x4. I don't use many of it's fx options unfortunately - what I would want for fx really isn't there haha!

yep that's what I do for most songs!

I bought a baritone guitar for that reason

Hi Utsav! It's a tough decision haha! What do you want your loop pedal to do - how many channels and inputs do you need? There's a lot of options! I think the Voicelive 3 is still a really good option, but yes... it can have a lot of issues still! Let me know what you are needing and i'll suggest what I think might work. Mostly though - do a bunch of reading and research online too!

Hey Joel, thanks man! With both the ditto and the voicelive 3 you dont need to set any bars ever - it picks up what you’re doing and syncs the next loop with it. Occasionally if i’m really out with start/stop timing of a second loop it gets only half of it as a loop, but that can easily just be rerecorded. Very different system to the boss loopers. Is that what you have? And no, no quantisation - tried that with a friends boss and it was horrible haha!

I should say the reason quantisation was horrible for me was - it took half a second for it's quantisation 'brain' to work, so it meant if you recorded your loop and played it straight away, it would never start perfectly in time as it had to do it's half a second of thinking first. If you recorded the loop and stopped it, and then started it, it gave it time to figure out it's quantisation and then was fine - just didn't work for me for live shows! hope that explains it better!

@@davidshanhun Hey, yeah that's super helpful! I'm actually very new to looping. I've been learning how to get setup with Ableton. So I'm using Ableton with its built in looper and a soft step 2. It's great fun, I was just struggling with the use of quantisation and whether to set the bars or not. With Ableton I can have X amount of bars with one looper and set it with others. I'm not so sure I can make the other loopers match the length of my first one. Your videos have really been helping me understand how to loop though! Especially this one. I did wonder whether people worked out what they would do with each part of the song before they do it.

@@GoodGameUK cool! Can be a bit of a process to get set up with something that works for you eh? Really glad these videos have been useful to you - thanks for letting me know - makes me happy! :)

haha really should watch the whole vid before commenting

Hahaha! Eb, then play it in C yeah. So its actually in B!

I suspect the couple have video of some format somewhere but sorry to say that I don't have it!

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Thanks 😊

haha. I'm tempted to see if I can include it in the creation of a loop now. 'how to turn any track into heavy metal...'

Hey Dan, it's the Aston Origin. I really like it!

Such a pure sound Dave Would you mind sharing what device is recording your presentation? I use an iPad with an apogee mic

​@davidshanhun thank you! Anytime you want to visit the southshore of Boston my wife and I would welcome a visit . We have two extra bedrooms and a Music studio

Nailed it 👌

haha no flies in this one lol. But the previous one..... 😂😂

@@davidshanhun yes...but he is no ordinary fly....he is ninja fly...invisible, stealthy ;) he was there I bet you...they are always there watching...waiting

@@jeanetterapson9265 haha a ninja fly eh? hmmmm. so long as he doesn't carry a little ninja fly blade on him i'm good with that!

@@davidshanhun hahaha na he had a guitar cuz he is ur biggest fan and wants to b like u...ok on a more serious note....great vid! Pretty fly for a white guy..

hehe thanks!