Why is LeBron always in the discussion with Jordan? Why is LeBron above Kareem?

He says Lebron will "beat you at everything..." Problem is Lebron didn't beat a lot of people in the finals 😂

OMG, this again. Jordan is the BEST player in the NBA of all time. He didn't just score, the way he scored and dunk on people, elevation...wow ! Even the opposite fans wanted to see him dunk and hang in the air !

I'd feel honored if I was Jordan that Thomas keeps flipping back and forth meaning he is jealous.

I’m just satisfied watched Michael Jordan playing .... nothing else matters.

Zeke never liked Jordan liking somebody and respecting them is two different things. Idc what he says on camera that's called being politically correct dude.

Zeke is from Chicago and this man came to his HOMETOWN and took it from him. Mike won 6 titles and 3peated twice and is beloved in the city that he was born and raised man that has to hurt.

Isiah Thomas was a great player. His latest opinions regarding Jordan are silly.

Im sorry Jordan isn't slower than lebron

For me as a big sportsfan and a good judge Jordan is the GOAT for all sports.

how is lebron james faster than jordan? i dont understand this concept. he is not faster than jordan

I'm from Chicago and EVERYONE knows that Isiah is FLAKY as hell!

MJ hands down!!! There hasn't been anyone as your highness, period!

He is entitled to his opinion but as far as the greatest, Jordan is.

Zeke's hilarious....if the "whole body of work" consists of high school, college & the NBA, then Lebron is automatically disqualified from the conversation because Lebron didn't attend a college...genius.

If they were on the same team , Lebron would inbounds the ball to Jordan and Jordan would win the game .

And may I add, I respect Zeke's game far more now than I did back when he played. I was caught up in the Bulls-Pistons rivalry then. See was a "BAD BOY," in the aspect of a Leader with all-around Talent to Lead his team to the top of the league, literally. Something regardless of what others may dislike, can't be removed from the history books😉. He led by example! Hobbled against the Lakers, "HE BALLED OUT!"

He seems to be a victim of the moment

LEBRON will NEVER... EVER EVER EVER be the 🐐! Lost 3 finals! Even swept! And he hopped around 3 times while picking his players to get em! Mike 6-0 in finals......And Left for 2 years!

I've been saying this. Isaiah been changing his mind. Same with John Salley. It's like whenever they dont get free shoes they get pissed lol

Thank you so much for documenting Isaiah flip flopping. I thought I was the only one that noticed. I am old enough to have witnessed the Arsenio Hall interview when it happened. And by the way, I saw Jordan and LeBron in their primes. Jordan is the greatest. His mental toughness, basketball IQ, fundamentals and exposure to great coaching exceed what LeBron possessed. Not a diss, just facts....

Zeke has bipolar basketball analysis more than not, so don't mind him 🤣

He competed against Jordan. Actuality competed. I don’t know what else ppl expect. You need to believe you’re better as a team if your going to really compete.

Isaiah is giving his honest opinion.Although he’s speaking with a bit of confusion he knows deep down inside Jordan is the G.O.A.By far.Magic and Bird saved the NBA But Jordan revolutionized the NBA.

That's what i call: envy! MJ was great from day one. Some others players that simply doesnt like (envy) MJ for different reasons: Mark Jackson Greg Anthony Dr. J Patrick Ewing (only started admiting to the press that MJ was the greatest when he was done playing and started working for Mj 😁).

Fascinating how I feel just watching this channel each time. I really do love that era and all its players. What a time for basketball! You're doing a great job with this channel. However I only ever got heated about this kind of stuff back then. Now, I don't care. I just love 'em all. They all had great parts to play.

When it was time to rise up to the occasion, MJ never disappointed! Kareem missed games because of horrible migraines, LJ missed his games too! The only time Micheal disappointed his fans was when he retired to play baseball. His lost his Father to murder. He needed to step away to clear his head. When he came back, we knew exactly what he was all about and again, he never disappointed his team or his fans! He was a team leader! Another 3-peat later, he did exactly what he wanted to do. He also told Jerry Krause, no Scotte Pippen? Then no Micheal Jordan!! He's the Greatest Player Of All Time without question, hands down! Edit: no mention of Kobe Bryant? Kobe's play was above LJ's! 😂😃😁😀

This was a Great video!! I have watched this rivalry from day one and this had some very rare clips I have never seen before.

The one thing that almost never comes into the conversation re: The Goat is their personality. In any sport, it is not ( should not ), be all about the stats. He hit on it a tiny, wee bit when he mentioned humility. Jordan brought with him, his amazing skill set and he made everyone who played against him, or with him, a better player. But he also brought his bigger than life personality...and that's a huge reason why so many people love him and call him The Goat.

Hi from France ; love your work, keep it up !

Always excellent material. Relevant topics, sports-wise and also sociological viewpoints that my generation (I`m 40 now) can truly relate to and, in my case, be pleased that I also found all your presentations to be things that I myself needed to revisit... I`m a Lakers fan, lived in LA at the time, and I saw the very first game Kobe debut... I mean.. anyway, thank you for your work.

I have seen this for my own separated time ago and I thought the same! lol! Thanks for ur content from Spain.

Do a video of your twin bro, Tony Parker.

Kareem seems to have become the go-to pick for anyone looking to stir the pot in the NBA GOAT discussion. But nobody was saying anything like that while he was still playing at the end of the 1980s. Even casual research into that era will tell you that the Lakers were actually very eager for Kareem to retire because the rest of the team was tired of him slowing them down in transition. Yes Kareem won 6 NBA titles, but 5 of them were far more attributable to Magic Johnson than anyone else. Michael Jordan is the greatest player in NBA history by a wide margin. And the fact that people continue to include Lebron in that discussion is a tremendous insult to players like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Kobe Bryant (RIP).

I just wanna say you do an incredible job with these videos man. You've earned a sub

Bro I am so happy you made this video because I thought that I was the only one that recognized that about him. He also said it again in the Last Dance documentary as recently as 2019.

Great video, Sean. Love your work. I honestly don't know which of them was the greatest. Abdul-Jabbar was an absolute beast in his prime and was like Jordan in that he could win the game for his team by himself, so who knows. If I was picking a best-ever team, I'd probably have both of those guys in my starting five. Haven't seen much Lebron though.

Easy: he got swept by the Bulls, took a while to digest that and then started praising Jordan everywhere so as to add value to his own team, like, we got swept but by the greatest player of all-time so it's not that bad. Then the jealousy brewed more and more inside his seemingly small mind and he veered towards other narratives like well KAJ never lost in college, how can you go against Lebron right now.

keep doing your thing, nice vid!

Great channel.keep up the good work

That's why I love Isaiah Thomas or Bill Laimbeer. They give credit to other NBA legends or they understand something : you can change on a given subject as you're aging... Like their list of the GOAT. As long as they are able to explain their choices. But, I think it's futile to compare players from an era to another or a position to another. Bill Russell and John Stockton talked about the stupidity of having just one GOAT... And I agree with them.

Somebody get this man some flip flops

Good job, man Thanks from Italy You put light on Thomas' opinions, that otherwise seem very clear because he speaks well

i love your show!!!!! the best around yo!

the media needs to let people have their own views! people's views can change!

Isiah's opinion shouldnt count as he has to much beef with jordan and his opioon keeps changing.

Very good video. Damn near outstanding.

what's that funky song on the intro??? I love it :)

“Look. My mind changes with how I feel. Or how I feel I’m supposed to feel. There was a time when I thought MJ was the greatest. But MJ be acting funny sometimes so I had to elevate Kareem, or Bill Russel, or Lebron, depending on how I’m feeling that day. I don’t have a problem with MJ. I just hate him.” -Isiah Thomas

This guy is one of the creator of jordan..

Thank you

Yes I just love seeing Mike playing unreal at the level he played on both ends of the court if there ever be and athlete come along like Jordan again he will be able to walk on water

Isiah Thomas is one jealous dude. The fact that Jordan has never once had to insert his name in the best ever debate says it all. LeBron is not always even in the debate. And the fact that Jordan's response when asked if he's the greatest is he doesn't know because he never got to play with some of the greats before him just makes him that much better IMO. LeBron actually declared himself the greatest after he won a ring in Cleveland. He's great, no doubt, and has been for a long time. But there are a lot of years during his prime that he wasn't even a consensus pick as the best player in the league. Always close, but not the consensus. Jordan? never any question. They gave the league MVP one year to Malone simply because I think they felt sorry for him having to play during the Jordan years. Jordan responded by destroying the Jazz in the finals and relegating Malone's MVP trophy to a nice 2nd place participation trophy. I do agree about Kareem though. I think he's probably just below Jordan in the best ever debate.

Mr Thomas has bipolar 🤣😂🤣😂

We just gone ignore that scottie pippen inbound at 4:20 lol

you should do a part 2 after the last dance

A lot of players didn't want to play with Isaiah he had a bad rep as leader of the bad boy Pistons for playing dirty. Isaiah is one of my all time favorite players and the greatest little man to ever play imo.

LeBron had to go to Miami and team up with two hall of farmers, plus he takes steroids and choked against Dallas.

Thus proving that Isiah is a far more forgiving man than Bill Laimbeer.

What is the name of the song that plays in the background of these videos?

I can say, living in Chi during the entire Jordan era, I would've argued hands down Mike. But then an older buddy of mine schooled me on Kareem and Bill Russell. I caught Kareem near the end of his career and he was dam near great until the end. But, he was traded for 5 guys🤤. That says something. After the dunk was banned, he came with the UNSTOPPABLE sky hook, among other things. I really think the "goat" is supremely OVERRATED! Each era brings something to offer. I mean, there will never be a a time ship to put the top players in their prime to ball it out. Yet, like Mike, Kareem, as well as a few others, really revolutionized the game. I do need to say that the younger generation is really coddled in comparison to the pass generations. Your not or possibly won't see games played streaks go longer than 50 games, just my observation

what? i like LJ but only 90% He was beat by Curry . Nxt KB 95% MJ is a GOAT 200% its another level

The only players that need to call them selfs the best are the players that clearly realize they are not. If you're the best, most people will call you the best.

Hey bro I don't know if I told you this before, but check the audio of the first game of the 1992 season between Chicago and Detroit at Chicago. The announcers describe Jordan and Isiah meeting at center court and talking to each other for a while. Nobody ever wonders about that.

Isiah is known to hold grudges. Everything he says is biased.

Jordan... Thats it, thats all

Do do you a link to the 1991 Midsummer Nights Magic, I got to sit with MJ and want to see if there is any footage of it.

Shawn David the era of basketball has differences. In 60s we bill Russel, wilt Chamberlain, Jerry west and so on. 70s we have Dr. J, pistol Pete, and so on. 80s we have bird, magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas and so on, 90s we jordan, Barkley, hakeem olajuwon, stockton and so on. 00s to present we shaq, kobe, wade, tmac, Iverson, ray allen, LeBron, curry and so on. So each era evolve and change, and each era is different shawn david just to let you know........

Kareem played in 10 finals ... 2 finals mvps.... nuff said

He a bum. Leaving the game, sayin this and that. He ain´t that nice of a human like people see him. He gets no respect from me!

Thats the credibility of IT changing his mind. Thats why he should not receive this attention.Reporter should point blank ask him why he change his GOAT...surely because he take it personal that MJ is part of not being dream team. IT will never ever put MJ above because he is jealous and envious to MJs success and attention..

I feel like the real heat is between Pippen and Thomas tbh...

Isaiah forever showed his character by not passing Jordan the ball in Jordan's first all star game.

That's the reason why Lebron want AD, Howard and the others so they can get him rings as easy as possible. At the same time stat pad his way to NBA record book.

I think it was on court rivalry in the late 80s that lead to their fallout. And when it comes to the dream team, no one wanted to play with Isiah Thomas by that time.

Bill Russell (rip) & Kareem hands down are the greatest players of all time, hands down. No one has won 5 titles straight or had rules rearranged because of their dominance like Bill Russell & Kareem.

Look lebron is good but didn’t change no game as jordan did ok and during the time jordan came a long kareem was still playing and most great players was still playing bird, drexeler, nique, okeem, bird, barely- and it was tougher then. who lebron have to go up against really no body wade and kobe AI that’s it. lebron is bigger and faster of course he would seem to dominate but jordan mentality of the game to win was off the charts he was the Bruce Lee of the nba and just like bruce lee wiped kareem in the enter the dragon movie it didn’t matter how small or bigger the person was mj like BL had that mental toughness and zeke is crazy to take lebron over mj

IT is always on my top 3 list when it comes to the most unsportsmanlike basketball player, since he obviously lack of sportsmanship and never realised how the world is better without him

That’s sums it up! Michael has never said he is the greatest of all time! But Labron has said he is😏

Isiah still hating 😂😂😂 Jordan didn’t want him in the Dream Team. But deep inside he knew Air Jordan is the GOAT 🐐

I feel Isiah is so underated to the world of basketball...his career stats are incredible...Michael Jordan buried him...

not a big fan of zeke but when pippen can change his mind on the goat 30 times every year why'd you hold it against thomas? it's dumb.. mj is the goat, everyone knows that and most people agree on it.. now figuring out why some people change their opinion more frequently than they change their underwear is really not important.

Can you do Larry Bird since he changed his stance on who GOAT is. In the past he said it was Jordan but few years ago he said Lebron is. I think Jordan all the way.

I grew up watching this men and can't nobody fuck with his skills BUT HE KNOW JORDAN IS THE GOAT. That Bron shit was paychecks.

He's a hater. He was happy in 2016 when LBJ had arguably statistically the greatest Finals ever just to discredit MJ. Where MJ has never lost in the Finals and never scored below 22 pts in a Finals game. LBJs 2011 Finals MUST NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

I just think that Larry Bird was the 🐐. I think the branding of the Jordan made the brand a new animal. David Stern and Nike perverted the NBA brand. Jordon was talented but so flawed and so financially compromised. I am not a Michael fan BTW.

He just said in in the all star game program on first take that MJ is the GOAT

I flip and flop a little within my top 5 and who is the GOAT between them. -Wilt avg 50 pts a season, alltime Rebounder, shot Blocker, lead the league in Assists one year. Played every minute of every game for the first 7 years! -Kareem alltime scoring champ, 6 championships -Jordan Put the league on his back, 6 championships ton of other accolades -Lebron will probably be the alltime leading scorer, probably top 4 all time assist, 8 straight conference finals. 3 championships and counting. -Kobe the clone of Jordan, 5 championships. Honorable mention Bill Russell - 11 championships, 1 as a player/coach. 2nd in alltime rebounds and blocks. -Hakeem 2 championships,could do it All. -Magic Johnson 5 championships, of career would not have been cut short, would be the Alltime assist leader. #1.Wilt Chamberlain - could play in any era. ( 7'2 with a 52" vertical, 9.5 hundred yard dash, Bench press close to 600lbs)

There are many players who can argue for GOAT status but THE GOAT is a different animal all together

In my opinion, the "most dominant" is not the same as the "best basketball player". Kareem, being very tall, can easily dominate high school and college. Jordan, being a normal sized guy had to develop more skill to be almost as dominating as Kareem. Jordan won 6 championships, just like Kareem, but missed a year and a half because of baseball. In the end, I would say they are both EQUAL. You cannot compare guys in different positions.

this is very tv like. all errors corrected. but in the first iteration there was an empty room talking at me. see. this is what it is to be a fan. That whatever superhero-man issue where there's an error. the error is what made that video special. i was like: who is talking to me?:))

I watched an interview with John sully. He reckons MJ and Isaiah were pretty close back in the day... use to hang out a lot

I might be biased being a lifelong piston fan but zeke is my all time favorite gaurd.as much as Mike complains about Thomas and the pistons they helped forge the bulls dynasty.it was not becoming a bulls fan after the pistons dismantled because after watching the pistons best the Lakers and the Celtics and then finally losing to bulls it was easy to see where the bulls got thier toughness and desire to be the best defensively.

Pretty simple actually. Isiah changed his mind after thinking about it and researching it. Kareem had a better overall career when you take into account high school as a separate entity, college as a separate entity, and the NBA as a separate entity. Jordan did not make his high school varsity team as a sophomore. For his two years on varsity, Jordan averaged 25.4 points, 12 rebounds and 5.3 assists per game. As a senior, he lead his team to a 19-4 record. But they didn’t win a state championship, losing to New Hanover 56-52, in the conference championship game. LeBron in high school averaged 21 points a game as a freshman and lead his school to an undefeated State Title. They repeated as State Champions the next year and finished with only one loss, James averaging 25.2 points and 7.2 rebounds with 5.8 assists and 3.8 steals per game. As a Junior, he averaged 29 points, 8.3 rebounds, 5.7 assists, and 3.3 steals per game, but his team lost 4 games including the State Championship game. As a Senior his team traveled all around the country to play the best teams and James averaged 31.6 points, 9.6 rebounds, 4.6 assists, and 3.4 steals per game. His team only lost one game (actually a forfeit) and went in to win the State Championship (D-2 that year... his previous two were playing D-3). James did this under amazing scrutiny, exposure, and pressure that no 15-18 year old basketball player ever had to go through. Kareem finished his high school career with a 79-2 record. His team won the National High School championship when Kareem was a sophomore and Junior (losing in the game as a senior, the same year his head coach called him the n word). It is no comparison really. In terms of High School careers, it goes Kareem, James, and Jordan a VERY distant third on that list. In college, obviously James didn’t play, so he is third between the three. And despite Jordan winning a National Championship as a freshman, reaching the Elite Eight the next year, and Sweet 16 as a Junior, he can’t compete to Kareem’s college year. Overall, in his three years, Jordan averaged 17.7 ppg on 54.0% shooting, with 5.0 rpg. Kareem won three National Championships and would have probably won four if freshmen were allowed to play. He only lost 2 games in three years of college (one he had an eye injury and the other was when the other team just stalled before the shot clock was invented). The NCAAs outlawed the dunk in college basketball because of Kareem (and it lasted until 1976). He averaged 26.2 points a game in college. So again, without question and not being close at all, Kareem had the better collegiate career. Comparing the three in terms of their international accompaniments is not fair because James and Jordan both won Gold Medals as professional athletes, something Kareem could not do, but it is worth mentioning that Jordan did win a gold in 1984. Kareem did not accept an invitation to the 1968 Olympic team as a Civil Rights protest. And it also should be noted that James was part of perhaps the biggest disappointment in USA Basketball, as his team won the Bronze Medal in the 2004 Olympics. In the pros: Kareem has 6 championships Jordan has 6 championships James has 4 championships Kareem had 6 MVPs Jordan 5 James 4 Kareem was a 19 Time All Star James 16 Jordan 14 Kareem made 11 All Defensive Teams Jordan 9 James 6 Jordan has 10 Scoring Titles Kareem 2 James 1 Jordan has 6 Finals MVPs James 4 Kareem 2 Kareem has 4 Block Titles, one Rebounding Title, and one Field Goal Percentage Title. Jordan has 3 Steals Titles and 2 Minutes Played Titles. James has 1 Assist Title and 3 Minutes Played Titles. Jordan won Defensive Player of the year once. Overall, James is averaging 27.1 points on 50.4% shooting (73.4% from the line), 7.4 rebounds, 7.4 assists, 1.6 steals, and .8 blocks in 1268 career games. He made the Finals 10 times (4-6 record). Jordan averaged 30.1 points on 49.7% shooting (83.5% from the line), 6.2 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 2.3 steals, .8 blocks in 1072 games. He made the Finals 6 Times (6-0). Kareem averaged 24.6 points on 55.9% shooting (72.1% from the line), 11.2 rebounds, 3.6 assists, .9 steals, 2.7 blocks in 1560 games. He made the Finals 10 times (6-4). Overall (high school, college, and the Pros put together) between the three, the answer has got to be Kareem as the GOAT. Just comparing their NBA careers, that is far tougher.

So much talk..im from the chi,talk is cheap..Action speaks louder then words..jus watch footage and it speaks for itself...MJ will b always be the G.O.A.T....R.I.P Kobe,the next-generation of 🐐..

Clearly hes been conflicted with something that motivates him to do this

Wow I’m truly impressed that he said

Isiah didn't organize the freezeout because Jordan was more popular in Chicago. Magic and Bird organized organized the freeze out because Jordan refused to wear the All-Star warm up. He wore his Nike warm up and they believed he was putting himself and Nike above the rest of the league. Isiah was the point guard so he controlled the ball, and he agreed to do it, but MJ, Larry, & Magic have confirmed this.

whats the 80s jam during the interview with isiah minute 3 ???????

When he says Zeek says interesting things in the Bulls vs Jazz in the Finals if you look at the Bulls vs Jazz clip look closely at the shoes there white not it was a regular season game