How Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie DOOMED the Series
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Жыл бұрынWas this movie really responsible for the dark turn the series took in later years? Yes it is. Let me tell you why.
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@mediamementosofficial Жыл бұрын
If you want to see more of the impressions from this video, here you go! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bryKadRor6ixdIU.html
@frog8779 Жыл бұрын
Those impressions were one heck of a wave of nostalgia
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
You are the best at doing impressions of different VeggieTales characters
@LeafRazorStorm Жыл бұрын
It could've just been a 45-minute special. They could've avoided putting all their company stake on a single product, but Mike was just TOO funny and Phil was just TOO ambitious. Such tragedy.
@CJBStudios Жыл бұрын
Yeah, even for somebody who grew up watching VeggieTales, it is stil pretty sad that this is where Big Idea met their downfall after almost a full decade at the time.
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
It's essentially a Greek tragedy
@AdamSelvig Жыл бұрын
@@CJBStudios it wasn’t just the movie itself
@kieranstark7213 Жыл бұрын
As much of a masterpiece as I think JAVTM is (even by the high standards of the franchise not counting the 2010s thanks to DreamWorks having done so much wrong (with VeggieTales and their late 2010s (2015-2021) animated features), even I gotta admit, these are very valid points to keep a (charming yet) frail company like Big Idea afloat.
@WubbaizyShipper1 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think it's fine at it's length. I think they should have waited until they had enough money.... it's sad to think that my favorite VT episode was essentially the Thomas and the Magic Railroad of VT....
@blockmanvideo5635 Жыл бұрын
Something that surprised me in his auto biography was that Phil started seeing the company as a false idol, he acknowledged that he got too ambitious and blames himself for the fall of his ministry.
@eatatjoes6751 Жыл бұрын
...that makes sense.
@Beanmachine91 Жыл бұрын
thats dumb and fucking sad really
@catholicfemininity2126 Жыл бұрын
Woah......
@joshb4898 Жыл бұрын
Respect
@vylbird8014 Жыл бұрын
"I will succeed with God's aid!" *FAIL* "God did not want me to succeed."
@elwoodjacobs4353 Жыл бұрын
It's a cryin' shame what happened to Big Idea. Knowing what I know now about the production history of Jonah, the absolutely horrific state the company was in, & Phil's personal & spirtual struggles during the whole thing makes watching the behind-the-scenes featurettes for Jonah pretty heartbreaking 'cuz even though they appear to be smiley, happy, hopeful, & upbeat on-camera, to quote Larry & Mr. Lunt from the Jonah DVD commentary, "It's all a put-on. It's a sham. It's a fake." They're still incredibly nostalgic to watch, but there'll always be a depressing air about them from now on for me. With that being said, Jonah is, has been, & will always remain my favorite VeggieTales project of all time. It has a vibe like no other VT episode has. It was supposed to be this big epic blockbuster, but instead, it has this cool, unknown, indie, slightly spooky & mysterious aura about it (at least for me), & the music is absolutely _killer._ It's one of my favorite comfort movies.
@G.S.Productions Жыл бұрын
It was my very first theatrical experience of my entire childhood for me back when this came out.
@timothyfinch7295 Жыл бұрын
The Digitial Dalies short on the DVD is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
@garyjones2561 Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about the spooky thing. It's been a while since I saw it but I remember how they broke down and got stranded at that arcade diner late at night (already a classic horror trope). Even once they got into the story, the pacing was just a little.. *off* throughout the movie. When Jonah would go into that weird all-white dimension - "Jonaahh..." And ofc, Nineveh was creepy. And then the cutoff ending which I can't blame them for since it's straight from the Bible lol. The music number at the end helped take the edge off though. So yeah, it was just a little off. Tldr; Fib fro Outer Space was scary, but Jonah was just weird.
@Hi-jw7oq Жыл бұрын
I mean, the dirty secret is basically every production company especially companies like disney and nickeloden. Disney has zero problem taking taxpayer money to help them out and then turning around and ripping everyone off with their products.
@mariobabbo3497 Жыл бұрын
Even I loved this movie from my childhood, it is still an acclaimed flop
@CaptainSpiffari Жыл бұрын
The third trailer had Mark Elliot, the Disney "and now our feature presentation" announcer on it. Clearly says volumes about their mindset making this film.
@jeremykrane4855 Жыл бұрын
may that legend rest in peace
@SuperNintendoEntertainers Жыл бұрын
It kind of plays into the amount of money they spent making the movie when they straight up get him for a trailer. He must’ve been worth a lot.
@MomLAU Жыл бұрын
Isn't that the guy who sometimes used to fill in for Casey Kasem?
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
The history of Big Idea is essentially a Greek tragedy
@JolteOnWisconsin Жыл бұрын
Judeo-Christian*
@PuffyGeminiVictini 2 ай бұрын
*Christian Tragedy, Yea*
@MechaLeo Ай бұрын
The Bible stories are the significantly less cynical cautionary tales of hubris, but pious or not the ascent of Icarus and Tower of Babel are heralded examples of the human tendency of getting far too high on their horses.
@samuraibunny1758 Жыл бұрын
It's funny and tragic how both Jonah and The Powerpuff Girls movie were released in the same year, became Box Office bombs and nearly damaged both of their companies as a result
@icecreamhero2375 Жыл бұрын
I don't recall Powerpuff girls the movie damaging the company. It broke even.
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
@@icecreamhero2375 maybe not but the problem was that the Powerpuff girls movie was little bit too dark
@icecreamhero2375 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 No darker than a typical episode of the show. Heck Speed Demon is darker.
@klonoafan2012 Жыл бұрын
@@icecreamhero2375 it did managed to kill off cartoon network future plans to put their animated shows on the big screen and instead made them into direct to TV films
@SirArthurTheGreat Жыл бұрын
Not nearly
@LeafRazorStorm Жыл бұрын
I’d actually say the Lyrick lawsuit was Jonah’s fault, too. If Big Idea wasn’t so desperate for Jonah money, they might’ve been more careful around Lyrick and ended their unstable relationship more professionally, instead of jumping ship to Warner Home Video with zero notice and hoping the lack of any real contract with Lyrick will see them through.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I didn't even know this happened or even aware of it until now. Sometimes Life can be a very crazy thing, huh?
@Matt-zu2lu Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly surprised that they were able to make The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything after Jonah
@rommix0 Жыл бұрын
And it wasn't that good of a movie. Jonah was the better one in comparison.
@Harudodo Жыл бұрын
The only thing I remember about that movie is that cave full of those fake Cheeto things that almost gave me nightmares
@Matt-zu2lu Жыл бұрын
@@Harudodo that scene confused me so much as a kid
@silashurd3597 Жыл бұрын
It was a replacement for another project called “the Bob and Larry movie” where it was basically the origin of how Bob and Larry met and how they’re sentient veggies, and the movie was supposed to release on 2005. But the movie was canceled after the Big Idea’s bankruptcy and also animating humans would’ve been hard since there were supposed to be humans. I’d honestly love to see a movie about that. But what we got was a mediocre non-Christian based spin-off
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@silashurd3597 I've heard of that cancelled Bob and Larry movie. Too bad Big Idea's bankruptcy caused that project's cancellation. Oh, what could have been.
@bubbles46853-ep9if Жыл бұрын
Holy cow, your Pa Grape is incredible. But yes… a sad story. And the way you phrased it made me think of the disasters of Mighty No. 9 and Red Ash.
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Жыл бұрын
That Veggietales Live show looks crazy, I'd love to see a full video on that someday. There's just something really about those types of stage shows that's always fascinated me, probably because they're often linked to the lost media community. I can't say I'm surprised by the sale to Dreamworks though, since Prince of Egypt is still one of their masterpieces.
@FormalFilmsProductions Жыл бұрын
I actually went to see the show when it came to my town as a kid. I remember having an absolute blast.
@BugsyFoga Жыл бұрын
MM: “they’re not exactly the ones I pictured doing good with a Christian market” Prince of Egypt :”ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT”
@ablunt-headedtreesnake6094 Жыл бұрын
Prince is Egypt is a fucking masterpiece. Not religious but easily my top 3 animated movies. But I think the reason Prince of Egypt worked while Veggietales lost its identity the second Dreamworks got ahold of it is that Veggietales was an animated ministry that managed to be entertaining enough for atheists to enjoy, despite the religious aspects. Prince of Egypt is an amazing story that happened to include religious aspects. Take a second to imagine Prince of Egypt without God, replacing the plagues with an escalating slave revolt. We can debate on whether or not it would be better, but we can all agree it would still be good. You would still have a heart wrenching drama about two brothers who used to be thick as thieves being forced to be enemies because one grew and now wants to end a great evil (Let my people go!) and the other can’t escape the pressure put on him by his father even though he’s dead (I will not be the weak link!). You would still have Aaron resenting Moses for not caring about them until he realized he was only a basket ride away from the wrong end of a whip, contrasted by Miriam ready to put the past aside because he’s doing good now. You would still have Moses torn by the added suffering of innocents, particularly children, who had no control over the situation, ending in the death of his own nephew. The list goes on. Veggietales without religion would be like Sesame Street without the education. An empty shell.
@anth636 Жыл бұрын
I remember liking the LarryBoy show as a youngster. Also I find it funny that the soccer moms complaining it looked cheap, I imagine also probably love God’s Not Dead.
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
*Karens
@Seth9809 Жыл бұрын
LarryBoy was kinda adorable.
@therealpisceskid Ай бұрын
the larry-boy show theme song is forever engrained into my memory so those soccer moms clearly have zero taste when it comes to quality children's television
@BugsyFoga Жыл бұрын
Genuinely sad how such an ambitious and beloved project in the veggie tales franchise would practically be the franchise’s downfall.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
It was hard for me to believe it, too
@supermariof0521 Жыл бұрын
Same happened when "Thomas and the Magic Railroad" showed up and destroyed "Thomas the Tank Engine '.
@ElliottEntertainmentChannel Жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 I believe TATMR gave people the wrong message while Jonah made the franchise fall down because of its production problems.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@@ElliottEntertainmentChannel Really?
@ElliottEntertainmentChannel Жыл бұрын
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 TATMR made people believe that Thomas was a kids show and that’s why the film doesn’t really have a place in the Thomas community. However Jonah made VeggieTales fall down because of the film being a “financial failure” and the Lyrick lawsuit.
@masterseal0418 Жыл бұрын
It really makes me sad, actually. In fact, Phil went too far in hopes of his series becoming a phenomenon, and the entire story of VeggieTales is one of the most depressing things I've ever heard for the medium that is animation. It turned the table on Christian family programs over the years that were DTV; but Phil's dreams backfired and the Lyrick lawsuit happened, as well as his(and Mike's) brainchild taken away from him(them). No seriously, screw the lawsuit! It was the father of an overhated children's mascot like Barney's fault for suing Big Idea, who were struggling through a financial crisis before Lyrick dissolved into HiT(formerly Henson Inc Television until Jim Henson's passing then rebrand)! Still, they should be very very careful, because if you're wary of your surroundings, you'll succeed!
@roberttreacy8271 Жыл бұрын
Your impressions of the VeggieTales characters are dead on.
@leewitten4758 Жыл бұрын
This movie is a masterpiece. No no no, there's 2001 a Space Odyssey, All That Jazz (the favorite movie of the former's director). Jonah: a veggie tales movie. This is the hill I am proud to die on. The fact that it bombed is a tragedy, and We have only ourselves to blame. Yes 1-year-old me I hold you personally accountable. Edit: props to Phil Vischer for NOT just blaming the easiest answer for his company's downfall, but admitting to his own faults. he's a true Christian Chadlord!
@matthewhecht9257 Жыл бұрын
I saw it in theaters. We were late and made it just in time to only miss the opening credits.
@windmillmedia7555 Жыл бұрын
Kind of odd that both of my childhood franchises, VeggieTales and Thomas, both were wrecked because of their respective movies.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
I agree. In fact, I think Thomas and VeggieTales take the exact same track in terms of their histories.
@sandy_shark Жыл бұрын
@@danielfoster3642 The same “track” eh?
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@sandy_shark Oh. I meant how both of those franchises were kind of in similar paths. Now, even Thomas is in trouble thanks to that poorly done 2D cartoon.
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
It's like poetry sorta, they ryhme
@kc_9970 Жыл бұрын
As a person that owned the Jonah movie on DVD since my toddler years, I can definitely feel that.
@PresbianTier Жыл бұрын
Lol. I owned the Jonah Movie when I was eight on VHS.
@magnetoonproductions9541 Жыл бұрын
Cimematic animation is a very expensive and ambitious thing. Jonah should have been reformatted a two part episode. That way, Big Idea could have saved themselves a lot of trouble. Home media is a much easier market than theatrical runs, especially if you don’t have deep pockets like Disney or Dreamworks or Warner Bros. It’s sad to say that Jonah was doomed right from the start, regardless of the movie’s quality.
@NAPALMANWITHTHEPLAN Жыл бұрын
11:30 Those impressions are perfect, they are fantastic
@sdastoryteller3381 Жыл бұрын
This was really good. Sad as I think everyone mourns classic Veggietales. Though I think any fan of the series could tell that Jonah really changed everything.
@lou-cidmire3065 Жыл бұрын
What's wild is I was actually crazy for the movie as a kid, I would watch it on repeat. 😆 Would've never guessed it throttled the studio.
@camdenspencer-thomas8800 Жыл бұрын
Guys, we gotta save Phil Vischer, Mike Nawrocki and their crews' job back so they can get back to where they were doing. I want VeggieTales to be back to normal.
@nyanpirethecat2257 Жыл бұрын
Too late.
@camdenspencer-thomas8800 Жыл бұрын
@@nyanpirethecat2257 What do you mean “too late”?!!! It’s not too late! Not if we think of a plan to get them back to work!
@JunaidWolf3 Жыл бұрын
@@camdenspencer-thomas8800 they stopped working on veggietales and actually Mike Nawrocki is working on another show which is also about religion
@camdenspencer-thomas8800 Жыл бұрын
@@JunaidWolf3 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭I don’t want VeggieTales to get canceled!!!!! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?!!?!!
@JunaidWolf3 Жыл бұрын
@@camdenspencer-thomas8800 with the way cgi is now I feel like veggietales should be one of those shows that shouldn’t continue unless Dreamworks decides to make it like how it used to be
@borimaster2412 Жыл бұрын
brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, "don't get any Big Ideas"
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@matthewtucker2765 Жыл бұрын
I remember liking this movie fine when I was a kid (well, I grew up loving this show, and I still do to this day). The bloopers of this movie always made me laugh hard. And you're right, Media Momentos. Looking back on this show as an adult, parts of it still hold up even today! This show is timeless. You can show this series to little kids today, and they'll still have a good time!
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like the movie as well I was quite surprised it didn't do that well and you know something I really did like the Netflix version
@CJ-ln5ov Жыл бұрын
Damn, this makes the film’s ending all the more tragic. No, not the musical number, the ending of the actual story. The one where Jonah sits and waits for his reward after all his hard work(?) only to never get it.
@zuniroa Жыл бұрын
11:45 the other impressions are decent but that Pa Grape one was spot on dude that was excellent
@Abbimation. Жыл бұрын
Sorry for a bit of spoiled alert, but I watch SaberSpark video and read Phil's book, Me, Myself, and Bob. So I pretty much know what happened to Big Idea. But I think it's a interesting topic, where a small studio known for their beloved property, takes a gamble on the movie, but many problems ahead before the movie like financial problems, a lawsuit for HIT Entertainment and poor management. It reminds me of Fleischer Studios when they make two movies to complete with Disney, but only having similar problems as Big Idea (except for the lawsuit part) and eventually collapse when Paramount brought it. So, these movies were ahead of time, and felt not ready for it. Which is ashamed that Big Idea Productions wouldn't be as big as Disney as Phil hoped for 20 years, and sell off to Classic Media, then Dreamworks Animation, then NBCUniversal.
@DONKEYKONG260 Жыл бұрын
Your Pa Grape and Archibald are on point lmao
@zacharysiple629 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of Jonah- our church is doing a sermon series on the minor prophets (as of 1/23/23, we are almost done. Yesterday we did Zephaniah, and we took a break for Advent.) On Nov. 13th, we studied Jonah. The week before, I asked my Pastor if he'd make reference to the VeggieTales movie in his sermon. He laughed and said he'd fit it in. Just to make sure, I text him the night before and caught up with him before church. He promised to mention it. So the sermon began, and Pastor asked: "How many of you, when you think of Jonah, think of a whale or a big fish, because as we read, Jonah was swallowed by a large fish?" Most hands went up. Then he finally said: "VeggieTales did a very popular video about Jonah many years ago. How many of you think of VeggieTales when you hear Jonah?" I put my hands over my head and clapped really loud. Pastor looked in my direction and he said: "Someone does...alright!" and he continued. After church, I went up to him and thanked him for the mention. "I hope my reaction wasn't too much, that was restraint." He laughed and said it was okay. :)
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
That's pretty wholesome
@TheAres1999 Жыл бұрын
I hope you went out for Seafoo afterwards
@zacharysiple629 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAres1999 No, we didn't. :P
@Deoxys_Used_Mimic Жыл бұрын
Man, your impressions are really good! Especially the Pa Grape one.
@supermariof0521 Жыл бұрын
Another example similar to this movie is "Thomas and the Magic Railroad".
@jordandwiggins1026 Жыл бұрын
I like how almost simultaneously I got uploads in my subscriptions talking about how the Jonah movie tanked Veggie Tales and another video about Thomas and the Magic Railroad which practically accomplished the same thing
@KaminoKatie Жыл бұрын
It's like poetry sorta, they rhyme
@THEANIMEFANZ_ Жыл бұрын
From all the interviews I've heard Johna's financial failures did not sit well with Phil both spiritually and financially. (I may be miss remembering) There were fans/critics who didn't like Johna solely because there was no new silly song in the film.
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Same year as Ice Age, both the only CG movies of that year with similar journeys and animation level
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
I honestly liked some of the stuff that came out after the Jonah movie. Tragic what happened to the series, but it’s still chugging along even now.
@colewright8416 6 ай бұрын
The VeggieTales merchandise I have are a great spot on. As of today some of the merchandise in the some mid 2000s and 2010s are terrible.
@KevinFinkbeiner Жыл бұрын
Holy cow, you nailed the Pa Grape impression. 😂😂
@cleverhilarious20 Жыл бұрын
So Phil felt like God wanted him to be the next Disney, and he ended up not having a good outcome.
@eatatjoes6751 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
No idea what you mean, but I'll go along with it and say pretty much
@johnharris6655 Жыл бұрын
The Easter eggs on the DVD are very funny. The French peas trying to illegally video tape the movie is worth the price of the DVD alone.
@CJBStudios Жыл бұрын
It’s actually pretty funny you’re doing this because LarryBoy Fanatic is also making a video talking about this movie that’s coming out today. And fun fact, this was the very first movie I ever saw in theaters along with my family.
@eatatjoes6751 Жыл бұрын
It's a forgettable tragedy. But Relient K does a great song in it. Man, God...wow. The saddest thing is, Phil kind of already was the Walt of Christian media via the form of cult classic status Veggietales had.
@VeggieTalesUnofficial Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see if you're discussing the financial ruin, or if Jonah is responsible for the poor quality of later episodes like 'Sweetpea'.
@B3fromYT Жыл бұрын
Most likely the first option, Jonah is really good and I don't think it started the downfall of this company
@VeggieTalesUnofficial Жыл бұрын
@@B3fromYT But Jonah gets too much blame- it's the faulty Lyrick lawsuit that took them down.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@@VeggieTalesUnofficial Really?
@B3fromYT Жыл бұрын
@The Ultimate Unofficial VeggieTales Channel! Yeah, that is true
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@@B3fromYT Yep
@WatchMeWatchStuff Жыл бұрын
Whoa, those impressions were legit
@jacksonmonk6525 Жыл бұрын
I saw SabersPark’s review on this too and I felt so bad for Phil
@Kittenfox_55 Жыл бұрын
I saw the pirates who don't do anything film in theaters.
@kootunesscrewy Жыл бұрын
Even if it ruined the series, at least this was the last good thing from VeggieTales... until the 2019 reboot.
@chiebukachibee-zoraedu Жыл бұрын
hey. There were some episodes that were pretty good, and The Veggietales Show is good return to form as well, while also taking the series in a new direction.
@kootunesscrewy Жыл бұрын
@@chiebukachibee-zoraedu Lol. I just said until the 2019 reboot (which was The VeggieTales Show). That show was a great return. Even if it didn't fix Big Idea much.
@chiebukachibee-zoraedu Жыл бұрын
@@kootunesscrewy oh, sorry.
@looneysprig Жыл бұрын
2019 was good, but finding out what happened behind the scenes kinda ruined for me.
@jenneacubero1036 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, DreamWorks were the ones behind "Joseph" and "Prince of Egypt". And "Sweatpea Beauty" was pretty good (I had the DVD as a kid). That being said, I can see why the fairy tale route wasn't popular with fans. There should've been more Bible takes to balance things out. It'd be interesting to see their take on Habakkuk along with HCA's stories like "Snow Queen" and "Little Mermaid" as Andersen's stories had religious overtones in the first place. They could've even added "Narnia" and "Lord Of The Rings" too.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
They actually made Lord of the Rings. It's called "Lord of the Beans."
@jenneacubero1036 Жыл бұрын
@@danielfoster3642 Awesome!!
@cordyceps7531 Жыл бұрын
Sweatpea Beauty was garbage. The animation was atrocious and the writing was mediocre.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@cordyceps7531 I grew out of VeggieTales by that point, so I really can't say for sure.
@sorenthefilmbrony Жыл бұрын
Yeesh, at least Treasure Planet and Strange World didn't bankrupt Disney. :/
@JosephRailwayStudios2000 Жыл бұрын
If they did
@mr.x2567 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if that were the case
@rommix0 Жыл бұрын
But the Black Cauldron nearly did
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Also The Rescuers Down Under, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Home on the Range and Meet the Robinsons
@dannybright8708 Жыл бұрын
This kinda reminds me of how Thomas and the Magic Railroad bombing so hard forced Britt Alcroft to sell the rights to the show
@P-P-Panda Жыл бұрын
I’m not Christian anymore but veggietales will always have a special place in my heart it was my favorite part of church watching the movies. It’s a shame they’re pretty much dead now. Those songs will never leave my mind ever and the writing was absolutely hilarious
@konatea Жыл бұрын
I think of Jonah as the capstone for many of my favorite episodes, it’s sad to see it was also the start of its decline
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
I still think its to Far-Fetched for the film to somewhat doom VeggieTales. I know he technically already explained why it happened 21 Years ago, but still.
@arc8216 Жыл бұрын
321 Penguins could have been a success if they didnt give the rights to Qubo which was doomed to fail being a saturday morning block in 2007-2008.
@cleverhilarious20 Жыл бұрын
Qubo was in danger? How?
@arc8216 Жыл бұрын
@@cleverhilarious20 I'm talking about the Saturday morning block they aired the show on NBC. It being a time when saturday morning was pretty much dead in favor of cable kids channels.
@kootunesscrewy Жыл бұрын
Personally, Big Idea went downhill after 2002. Even if they did create The VeggieTales Show, which did get alot of respect from fans, it unfortunately didn't save the company much.
@cleverhilarious20 Жыл бұрын
@@arc8216Oh. I see.
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
321 Penguins should have been a 4Kids show
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
I still have this film on DVD & VHS
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@LC_Games Nice
@caseyhamm4292 Жыл бұрын
so are y’all inviting us over for a watch party or…?
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@@caseyhamm4292 What do you mean?
@caseyhamm4292 Жыл бұрын
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 i’m saying mass invite everyone in this comments section to your house so we can watch veggietales together the way God intended
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
@@caseyhamm4292 Oh, that
@JadenVonBat Жыл бұрын
I think what might've killed Jonah's chances of larger box office returns was the fact that it was a limited release.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
That was something I didn't think about.
@JadenVonBat Жыл бұрын
I bet a Larry Boy movie would've done a little better.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@JadenVonBat I personally liked the way they introduced LarryBoy in Dave and the Giant Pickle, because Larry has to wear the superhero costume to make himself think that being a superhero would make him special, only for him to learn and realize that his normal self is more special, but that he can always dress up as a superhero whenever he feels like it. As much as I enjoy The Fib from Outer Space and Rumor Weed, I sometimes feel like they should have added another 30 minutes to both of those episodes. Or maybe they should have waited on working on anything LarryBoy related until the right time to make a feature film or TV series was there.
@cordyceps7531 Жыл бұрын
@@JadenVonBat this is what I’ve always been saying. I would’ve much preferred a Larryboy movie to a Bible role play one.
@morris182 Жыл бұрын
Love the music choices!! Veggitales is such a unique show too
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
You're missing the extre "E"
@JonSmithsVoyages Жыл бұрын
It's certainly a shame because this movie had so much heart and was super entertaining. Great video exploring the unfortunate demise. And your Pa Grape and Archibald voices are spot on!!
@Jackiedrewharbringer Жыл бұрын
No wonder this movie felt so different. I didn't realize the same people that got hired for it got fired right after
@ryanbarth6691 2 ай бұрын
Neither did I, I was 3 when I had a VHS of this movie and I had no idea about all that
@NintegaDario Жыл бұрын
VeggieTales Live is one of my favorite things from Big Idea to happen; I went to the 2002 show and none of the Live Shows following could compare.
@HylianFox3 Жыл бұрын
What's especially tragic is that VeggieTales was like, the ONE piece of Christian media that didn't totally suck. Now it's gone, and we're left with PureShi- I mean PureFlix and their endless stream of garbage and "God's Not Dead" sequels.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
11:23, Nice VeggieTales Impressions
@DillonMaynard Жыл бұрын
Making the transition from bible-centric stories to fairy tales as a Christian show is wild
@guardiansoulblade2673 Жыл бұрын
I had lost track of VeggieTales as an adult but I knew something was going on when they turned into a pop culture parody rather than Bible stories.
@KatREEna-ish Жыл бұрын
"Dreamworks isn't the best choice to cater to a christian market" But what about The Prince of Egypt?
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
Prince of Egypt was made back when DreamWorks was great. When DreamWorks bought Big Idea, they were already on a huge decline in film quality.
@guardiansoulblade2673 Жыл бұрын
@@danielfoster3642 Prince of Egypt's creators were also very respectful to the source materials and asked religious experts from Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, the result is all three religious groups were pretty happy with the movie. But Islamic countries banned the movie for a while because of their portrayal of prophets' rule.
@rommix0 Жыл бұрын
@@danielfoster3642 back when dreamworks was great? They're still great now. Did you not even see Puss In Boots The Last Wish?
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@rommix0 Yeah. You've got masterpieces like Prince of Egypt, Road to El Dorado, Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon. But you've also got duds like SharkTale and The Boss Baby.
@rommix0 Жыл бұрын
@@danielfoster3642 Yeah and Boss Baby was in the 2010s, the nadir era of DreamWorks which is thankfully long gone.
@tarjack6701 Жыл бұрын
your impressions blew my mind. insta-subbed after that, holy cow
@brennenhenderson7864 Жыл бұрын
I actually liked the Pirates That Don’t Do Anything movie…
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
That movie seemed better than anyone expected
@NebLleb Жыл бұрын
Lemme guess: Too high a risk and a budget.
@thomaseadbhardmcqueen7511 Жыл бұрын
It's a major shame that this movie didn't end up doing well. To this day, Jonah is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I have fond memories of watching it. I still go back and listen to the songs from this movie all the time too. I'm not a huge veggietales fan aside from this, but I would have loved for the franchise to keep going instead of going under.
@kenkaneki9176 Жыл бұрын
The guy does nearly perfect impressions.... HOW? But back on topic: It's a real shame what happened to Big Idea studios. I heard a few years back in 2020 that they were trying to get the old crew back together and bring veggietales back, there was a teaser for it and all, i wonder what happened to that?
@brianblumenreich9026 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea how much of a domino effect JONAH: A VEGGIETALES MOVIE caused once it bombed at the box office!
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Just like Treasure Planet
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamcortina6322 I hadn't thought of that.
@rachelsyrup Жыл бұрын
Okay but 321Penguins and the cartoon Larryboy series were ALSO staples of my childhood: to this DAY you can catch me singing those theme songs 😂
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
The issue is mainly from an economic point of view.
@anthraxmoth Жыл бұрын
it's so funny that u did impressions of veggietales characters bc the whole vid I was like "am I trippin or does this guy vaguely sound like pa grape"
@Kernfederate Жыл бұрын
Bringing up 3 2 1 Penguins brought back a flood of childhood memories! I used to watch Jonah as a kid a ton as well. It was one of the first DVD's I had as a kid, the rest of my childhood movies were VHS tapes 😂
@lolwafflz Жыл бұрын
I'd have thought dreamworks would be a good home for veggie tales given their history with Prince of Egypt and Joseph. Guess not
@icecreamhero2375 Жыл бұрын
At least we got a good movie out of it. I watched it all the time growing up.
@bengrant9316 Жыл бұрын
These impressions were really good
@gmg9010 Жыл бұрын
Love this movie though I understand it’s the thing that tanked the entire series even on the behind the scenes on the original cd they talk about how they were in debt.
@GarethMatteson Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t acknowledge the VeggieTales Show - the 2019 revival. I never saw it, but it sounds like it definitely better than the Netflix show.
@SuperNintendoEntertainers Жыл бұрын
I really liked the art style of the Larry-Boy cartoon, especially because it was mostly designed by Tom Bancroft from Disney.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The LarryBoy cartoon is definitely an underrated show. Too bad it came out at the wrong possible time.
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
LarryBoy the cartoon adventures was VeggieTales's equivelant of Toy Story's Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamcortina6322 I can definitely agree with that.
@TheDerpyBoi Жыл бұрын
At least the first Netflix show isn’t on Netflix anymore! EDIT: Both of the shows are gone from Netflix now! Even better!
@brianblumenreich9026 Жыл бұрын
There was a major dip in quality in VEGGIETALES after JONAH flopped!
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Nobody cared about that movie anyway
@johncreed9433 Жыл бұрын
Those are some really good voice impressions you got btw.
@SonicdaShapeshifter Жыл бұрын
The live veggie tales costumes look amazing which is so weird to me, somehow
@mysfitmyrth Жыл бұрын
Subbed for the on spot veggietales impressions.
@adalaidmarceau3163 Жыл бұрын
I love veggietales and jonah is my favorite one
@whooah Жыл бұрын
Your impressions were insane!! Your Mr Lunt was on point
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
It's Mr. Lunt.
@KSCGGuy14 Жыл бұрын
This is a sad but cool video. Thanks for the shoutout at the beginning. With Jonah recently turning 20 years old, I figured the topic discussed here would be fitting to honor the films' anniversary. I think Jonah could’ve been better off as a direct to video feature instead, because Disney was milking out those VHS sequels two decades ago. Personally, Classic Media felt like a worthy studio to run Big Idea following the lawsuit. That was, until Dreamworks bought CM and pretty much doomed VeggieTales for the rest of history. With how Phil and Mike are no longer involved in the franchise, and that the series is most likely never gonna re-capture its former glory, would it make sense for the VeggieTales IP to just retire or be left alone? If Dreamworks or NBC/Universal doesn't know how to run a "Christian" based property, even if it wasn't VeggieTales, then why keep producing more content from there?
@KSCGGuy14 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Krabs: Money!
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Same year as Ice Age
@h_nt_r Жыл бұрын
Well 8 year old me was very glad that this movie was around. Can't tell you how many times I ended up rewinding that VHS tape haha.
@Cheezbuckets Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why this video crossed my home page, but the sight of it slapped me with a memory from middle school. XD There was a project in music class where we got to pick any (appropriate) song we wanted to I guess analyze somehow, I honestly can’t remember what the project exactly was, and I don’t remember what song I chose to do, but I *do* remember one of my friends chose In The Belly Of The Whale from Jonah: A VeggieTales movie. I didn’t watch much VeggieTales as a kid, so I have no idea why that memory is so strongly implanted in my brain. Obviously, I had to look the song up to see if it was what I was thinking about, and lemme tell you, that’s going to be stuck in my head all week while I have an existential crisis over how long ago middle school was. And it’s all your fault for making this video. Thanks. XD
@wesleyhunt7599 Жыл бұрын
Jonah was both the best and worst part of the original series. The animation, score, and writing peaked here, but also drove the studio to bankruptcy.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
Who would've thought a harmless film like Jonah would cause that to happen. You think having it be a Made-For-TV would've fixed it?
@KaminoKatie 9 ай бұрын
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 They should've waited until they're financially stable enough to make a full-length project
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 9 ай бұрын
@@KaminoKatie Okay
@danandtab7463 Жыл бұрын
I kinda believe that some "art" belongs only on one, maybe two mediums and trying to stray out of those things can potentially fall flat. Veggietales really shined on the small screen. Who is going to the theater, spending the $10 per person, to watch low detail CGI groceries do roleplay? I was a fan of everything before Jonah and I wasn't even interested in Jonah for that reason. Also they were trying to make franchises off of brilliant one-offs like the Pirates who don't do anything, Larryboy, etc. I'm now kinda surprised they didn't try a show about Larry's Lips or the adventures of the USS Apple Pies.
@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Жыл бұрын
Kind of Far-Fetched for a VeggieTales Movie, like Jonah, to doom VeggieTales in general or something. Just saying.
@Loafdd Жыл бұрын
You caught me off guard with the first impression, but you just KEPT GOING. Bravo.
@meltryllis6239 Жыл бұрын
Those veggietales impressions are God tier
@CheesyLizzy 7 ай бұрын
11:19 Holy cow those are really good Veggietales impressions But yeah, I miss Phil and Mike :(
@zombiegamercat777 Жыл бұрын
This is sad. I have great childhood memories of these shows. To this day Veggitales and 321 Penguins are 2 of my favorite shows.
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
Nobody cared on 321 Penguins that much
@zombiegamercat777 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamcortina6322 I love it personally
@abrahamcortina6322 Жыл бұрын
@@zombiegamercat777 good for you than
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamcortina6322 Me too. I wasn't a huge fan of 321 Penguins that much for whatever reason.
@Sometimeslifeiscrazy Жыл бұрын
If you watch the movie with the audio commentary on it’s Larry and Mr. Lunt and it’s so amazing.
@danielfoster3642 Жыл бұрын
One of the many reasons to get the DVD. I personally like the outtakes bonus feature.
@josiahbuckets5159 Жыл бұрын
why is your pa grape impression so good wth 😂😂😂
@TylerMcNamer Жыл бұрын
No studio should ever go through with this.
@catholicfemininity2126 Жыл бұрын
I liked this show as a kid and pray that Jesus brings it back.
@Jstudios100 Жыл бұрын
That Netflix thing was a fever dream.
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