How Jonas Vingegaard WON The 2023 Tour de France

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@dichaelovic Жыл бұрын

These two riders are just insane. They are by far the best climbers, but to also take minutes on everyone else on a 30 minute TT is just Mental.

@macroglossumstellatarum3068 Жыл бұрын

I think you could argue for Vingo to be the best climber, but he’s more well-rounded than that to call him a climber haha. I wouldn’t call Pog a climber though, he’s an attacker

@Enonymous99 Ай бұрын

@@macroglossumstellatarum3068vingo is the more well rounded climber Poga is the more explosive climber

@XxxxTxTxxxX Жыл бұрын

It's doping when someone you don't like wins. It's skill and hard work when someone you root for wins. Such a shame Pogacar's fanboys act so different than Pogacar. Great tour from Vingegaard and TJV. Congrats to the back 2 back champion.

@Frostbiker Жыл бұрын

It's suspicious when two riders appear to be so far ahead of the rest. Or when somebody climbs like a mountain goat and is still able to win sprint finishes. It is also possible to enjoy the sport and the competition while acknowledging that doping is likely taking place. I had a lot of fun watching the likes of Pantani and we all know how they did it.

@Strategic_wins Жыл бұрын

VingegaarDope and ePogacar, good that wasnt it 😂😂 will never be a clean sport and never has been, everyone is on the 🥤at top level, Yates brother's fan boy here by the way, and no I dont think there clean neither but still what a tour it was

@erlendbor6101 Жыл бұрын

The whole peleton dopes, Just not on banned substanced (yet).. But yeah. Totally agree with you

@xuetongchen9070 Жыл бұрын

They are using Pogacar’s success and personal charm as ammunition to bully his opponents, real class.

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

@@Strategic_wins well written thank you!

@obiseankenobi2056 Жыл бұрын

Sepp Kuss is one of the main reasons Jumbo got their pink and yellow jerseys this year - dude should be allowed to wear a Peach jersey all year for his effort

@egelund1976 Жыл бұрын

The best help rider in the mountains in the world. But he didnt have Roglic.

@mrthorbjrnolsendk6561 Жыл бұрын

And Tadej had Bjerg to a team aswell. In they end it all depends on the individual rider and this year Jonas was the best.

@Ireallylikeeggs Жыл бұрын

All of JV is good and damn Sepp is ggoooooood

@henriksylvestolsen4885 Жыл бұрын

van Hooydonck and van Barle are the reel unsong heroes

@wyomingar 10 ай бұрын

@@henriksylvestolsen4885 yes in 2023 TDF, Sepp didn't do much work for Vingegaard. TDF 2022 was a different story

@richardsmith9509 Жыл бұрын

A terrific overview of the Tour...wonderful

@a_diverge Жыл бұрын

Was routing for all the riders to be honest. Great tour, very much enjoyed all of it. 👏

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

Stages 16, 17 defined the winner, Stage 20 was a charity donation from Vingegaard and Stage 21 was celebration time

@KevwePatani Жыл бұрын

Well said 🤣

@mariomanov8453 9 ай бұрын

Haha,donation from Vinge..Pogacar beat him in more climbs,even injured,not training, not ketamin..ou,sry ketone and no red blood cells out of norm,not mountain training camp,like you need to do before biggest, hardest big Tour.. only think I like ,even more than JV team was ..our team,this time:Adam Yates was perfect (co leader, hm),Großschartner,Majka,Bjerg(flat),Soler(a little),Trentin(flat)&Laengen(??!?)half were good..Good think was WVA waited a baby and was unfocused, not at full power like last year..Sepp opposite-again were of first climbs groups, etc.Anyway,I hope both rivals to be OK,Roglic also,Ineos and may be Trek,EF..2024"hope for best TdF

@KonnoOC Жыл бұрын

The fact Pogacar went from training in his kitchen to being second in the Tour is pretty impressive. Well done to Vingegaard and I’m looking forward to next year.

@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 Жыл бұрын

Good video and another great round of grand tour coverage from you guys. Thanks for your effort in all of this.

@Whiteside70 Жыл бұрын

Jonas is the type of man who would stop cycling if he had to use doping. Jonas Vingegaard is and will forever be the 🐐 of 2022 and 23 Tour de France,and uuhhhh hvor er det fedt. TILLYKKE JONAS 🇩🇰☮️🙏

@billyred889 Жыл бұрын

I’m a big Pogi fan, but I think Jonas is a better GC rider, currently anyway. Both are super talents but Jonas has a skill set more suited to the tour. For example, he’s better on the long hot high altitude climbs, which usually decide the tour. Pogi will always beat Jonas in a flat sprint and explosive power but as we saw this year and last year, that’s not enough. I think for Pogi to beat Jonas next year he needs to cut back some of the spring classic races and do more prep for the tour. Jonas does not do any one day races, he is completely focussed on the tour and only does the GC races. That’s part of what makes him so tough to beat in the tour. I think Pogi is the stronger rider all things equal bar none. His versatility has been demonstrated before against Jonas. That’s not to take anything away from Jonas as he is a physiological marvel as well, however Pogi is something truly one in a 100 million physiologically due to his recovery rate.

@dadedraak Жыл бұрын

Jonas did do the Dauphine this year

@billyred889 Жыл бұрын

@@dadedraak true, but that’s my point. The Dauphiné is GC stage race used mostly as a prep for the tour. That’s why Jonas raced it, to test his form and prep for the tour.

@lws7394 Жыл бұрын

Pogacar aparently has a vo2 max of 89 , but JV has an incredible 97 vo2 max . That says it all. At a final punch sprint TP will beat JV 9/10. But JV gets better during a 3 week Tour , while TP gets vulnerable the last week At TJV it was very clear : the TJV workers have to keep the pace high and hard in the first 2 weeks , so TP will deteriate in the last week when JV has to do the damage to TP And so it happened. JV has little chance to win in a one day race ... But over 3 weeks , with a good team , he is likely to win over Pogy .

@billyred889 Жыл бұрын

@@lws7394 totally agree with you on that

@mikkelline11 Жыл бұрын

@@lws7394Jonas himself has said that from the first to second week of a grand tour, he improves a little bit. From the second to third week he is able to then maintain his level, whereas the other GC contenders probably fade and begin to feel the fatigue

@AustinIsTheGreatests Жыл бұрын

Crazy that he took the jersey on Stage 5 and just kept it. I wonder how things could have changed if Tade took the Yellow on stage 5

@flavourbusiness3870 Жыл бұрын

I always saw Jonas with team mates or with team mates up the road when it was getting hard but never saw the same with pogacar

@thelastkimyerim18 Жыл бұрын

Been the story for the last 2 TdF

@TheBxtux Жыл бұрын

then u did not see much of the tour, UAE had a great team this year. Majka and Yates was doing a great job. Adam Yates even came third

@mrsewe417 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you should have stayed awake in front of the telly. Yates, Majka and Soler were with Pogi till the mano o mano finishes.

@paulrigsbee4571 Жыл бұрын

Excellent recap Ewan! Great post!

@dilligaf2818 Жыл бұрын

I dont mind the TJV team and a fan of Wally van Aert, Sepp and Primoz so im glad Jonas V won. I cant warm to the Pog and the UAE team as a whole.

@oscarw1060 Жыл бұрын

Same, I do like his interviews but when someone is as successful as Pogi it's hard to really enjoy watching them win again and again

@vandalorianvandalorian4769 Жыл бұрын

Great briefing on the tour.

@cary_973 Жыл бұрын

Somehow I feel that Pogacar likes racing the classics more than GC in grand tours.

@esrepu Жыл бұрын

thats cause he is such a puncheur. maybe the best after a 100% wva

@eliotto9995 10 ай бұрын

@@esrepu MVDP is the best by far 😂

@davidandrews2883 Жыл бұрын

What would be better commentary would be to analyse the tactics to reveal the strategy rather than a sequential synopsis.

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

Great video thank you.

@Tom_Pidcock98 Жыл бұрын

Another great video by you❤ where can we find the polka dot jersey contest winner?

@jpdaye Жыл бұрын

Great recap, ty

@thecyclingdane Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@rameshradha7297 Жыл бұрын

Jonas ,king of the road, congratulations

@olejensen3125 Жыл бұрын

🥰 Jonas

@tim9s Жыл бұрын

Great upload Ewan, looking forward to your commentary in Spain.

@jackiepetrosky4611 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, merci!!

@kokonanana1 Жыл бұрын

Clue: he rode faster!

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂spot on! He won!😂😂😂😂😂

@dorte3791 Жыл бұрын

Wow! That was news to me

@brianpais3562 Жыл бұрын

Thank You Tooo...

@majob2363 Жыл бұрын

❤seeing the Jumbo Visma Gladiators race every stage!

@fellspoint9364 Жыл бұрын

They definitely have a powerhouse group of riders there. A true team effort.

@cynthiabinder3730 Жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff love the 2 wheels 🚲

@sweetiemcgee Жыл бұрын

congrats to vindago

@dkvikingkd233 Жыл бұрын

Vingo's part time "job" at the fish factory was arranged by his then sports director on team ColoQuick because Jonas didn't manage his day very well when he was a teenager, so this was meant to give him structure it wasn't a job per se..

@marek9784 Жыл бұрын

It's really weird how everyone focusses on that job. They make it sound like he was a normal person with a everyday job before he became a pro cyclists. When in reality he was already semi/pro and his team gave him the job to help him mature.

@dkvikingkd233 Жыл бұрын

@@marek9784 exactly:)

@CFCMahomet Жыл бұрын

The team announced that Jonas will be heading to race the Vuelta with Roglic. Will this plan backfire and be the catalyst for Roglic wanting to leave the team? I can’t imagine Jonas playing domestique when he can win. The same for Roglic.

@jacobpedersen8987 Жыл бұрын

They have sayed that the will race with Them both as leaders, like tdf22

@POS36 Жыл бұрын

@@jacobpedersen8987But what if both are tied for the first position within hypothetically 20-30 secs? Who gets the win?

@alex27826 Жыл бұрын

@@POS36 Presumably whoever is deemed to have the better shot at winning.

@POS36 Жыл бұрын

@@alex27826 On what grounds though ? If both are within very close timing and have a 3-5 mins lead against the rest. How would the other feel, if the other rider gets prioritised. Both have won a Grand tour in 2023 so who should have priority for a double GT?

@egelund1976 Жыл бұрын

@@POS36 The one ahead gets prioritized. But both are captains. They have done it before and are both loyal to the team and each other. You wont see Jonas attacking Roglic ever.

@MerlinMan1579 Жыл бұрын

Call me cynical but to put 1:38 into Pogacar over 22klm seems suss.

@richardcarr6493 Жыл бұрын

🤔 I see many similarities to tdf battles of yore the TT performance resembles 89 Greg lemond and Fignon. The battles up the climbs resemble the days of Lance and his competitors . Overall a great tour

@Slumbert Жыл бұрын

Let's see the new route.... Flat TT? Team TT? Many mountains or not.

@SssSSS-eq3bm Жыл бұрын

Epic Performance Overall . Never doubt Bjarne Rijs and Rabobank.

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

Definite Pogo-Fanboy, your heart bleeds just narrating this video❣💔 Sorry Ewan! . . . . yours truly Vikingegaard Skeletor!

@whothefoxcares Жыл бұрын

If cyclists worked as lumberjacks when not racing, they'd have better upper body strength.

@Navy-Seal-Ninja90 Жыл бұрын

the great dane❤🤍

@larshansen4557 11 ай бұрын

Maybe he is just the best , i mean , ge gas won two years now, poggi fan , accept thath

@bmont170 Жыл бұрын

How by having the shortest time from start to finish……..

@olejensen3125 8 ай бұрын

🥰

@lucasfriis4941 Жыл бұрын

The people saying that either Pogacar og Vingegaard is on performance enhancing drugs need to think about the fact that they are both smart guys. It would be stupid to win the TDF by 7 minutes when you know everyone will want test results and will be doubting on wether or not they are natural

@larshansen4557 5 ай бұрын

Looking forward to ,how did jonas win the tour 2024 😂

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

Ewan narrates this video with a pained fkin heart💔❤‍🩹. We know, Pogo was your best boy!

@OL9245 Жыл бұрын

Nothing suspicious of course in such skyrocketting carriers 🙄

@larshansen4557 6 ай бұрын

Go back to 2019 and see vingegård pull roglic in spain , he has always been s mountain goat

@TheCyclingVet Жыл бұрын

He crushed his enemies; saw them driven before him; and heard the lamentations of their women. That’s how he won.

@johnlee7085 Жыл бұрын

It was really about the 1 day when Tadej fell. Well, plus the ITT. Guessing the fall really took a lot out of him. Maybe the results are the same regardless, but a shame to see something like a fall affecting the race. In three weeks of racing though, there’s probably lots that influences the outcomes outside of the individual rider’s efforts on the bikes.

@5508Vanderdekken Жыл бұрын

I did see someone comment that the fall might've shut his body down - i.e. put it into panic mode. at the very least, it's an interesting idea; not sure if it's based in any reality

@TellusJD Жыл бұрын

Naah guys Pogi was washed after all those activities in the mountains, its very evident just in the pictures of this video and match my observation during the race it starts around stage 14, becomes more clear on stage 15. Look under his eyes there is clear signs of exhaustion lack of energy. This was the tactic all along as TJV had seen this was the recipe to tire him over the long run not on the individual days. the TT he also looked a bit exhausted 17 completely exhausted. Look at pictures of his face around stage 11-12 and there's a staggering difference. Pogacars form was not for a full 21 stage tiring race it was for the first 2 weeks.

@egelund1976 Жыл бұрын

TDF is usually about someone fell. If you wanna win it you dont have a day when you fall.

@larshansen4557 Жыл бұрын

I think beaucuse he was the fastest after 3 week , maybe poggi broke at whist, but vinge was the fastest after 3 week thats wy he won, thaths just how it is

@larshansen4557 Жыл бұрын

How can poggi suddently win a mountin stage after , acording to poggi fan , beeing sick an jonas beeing dopede, against All this Ods he wins the last mountain and thats complet naturaly 🙃🙃🙃

@ringzero9757 Жыл бұрын

How he won? A lot of hard work and yes, doping. When there is money involved, people will do what it takes. Don’t be naive.

@tbcyable Жыл бұрын

It's very simple doesn't need to explain with a 15mins video the answer is doping

@kalaebt2225 Жыл бұрын

jasper the disaster < jasper the master of sprint

@kampfire. Жыл бұрын

Don't think anyone had the time trial time gains planned=== indeed just a bit special

@michaelabercrombie5744 Жыл бұрын

Drugs.

@tarlkoroban3733 6 ай бұрын

Hopefully no one pushes Team Israel off their bikes in the next tour. Wouldn't that be terrible?

@psicokillerr Жыл бұрын

I mean the correct answer is: Pedaling his bike faster than average. 😅

@thomaspetersen9991 11 ай бұрын

Nice playback All over 😅😅😅.he sing Yes but the Voice is dupped with playback

@nononsense852 Жыл бұрын

Is the 2 years from a nobody to a 2x TDF winner proves how out of control the doping dominate this sport, or he’s just an exceptional athlete with magic powers?

@madsbock7586 Жыл бұрын

He came 2nd the year before winning the first time. And yes he is in fact an exceptional athlete, with the 2nd highest VO2 max ever measured in any athlete across ANY sport. He was not an early prodigy like Pogi, but he was certainly not a nobody. Know your shit before talking trash!

@nononsense852 Жыл бұрын

@@madsbock7586 still a two year meteoric change. It’s a sad but true statement.

@madsbock7586 Жыл бұрын

It's not true tho. Dude is a literal freak of nature. Working hard for many many years and becoming better and better every year. @@nononsense852

@stephenwalker850 Жыл бұрын

The new Chris froome

@alexanderdeguzman-yj7rz Жыл бұрын

TP is the greater champion

@mrsewe417 Жыл бұрын

Well, you pick the hero you like. Good for you.

@larshansen4557 11 ай бұрын

Not for two years now , maybe next year

@marianorivera3272 Жыл бұрын

I have nothing against Vingegaard whatsoever but I think the level of his performance was objectively suspicious. I would be saying the exact same thing if Pogacar would have smoked Vingegaard this badly in the TT. The power meter showed numbers that haven't been matched by any human being not on PHD ever. Accusing him without proof is despicable at worst, but saying this isn't suspicious at all is naive at best. In any case, this was the best TDF in recent memory; Vive Le Tour !

@markfuller8047 Жыл бұрын

Doping?

@v.dargain1678 Жыл бұрын

Cancer ?

@bobbyshizz2138 Жыл бұрын

Those TT splits and margin of victory are highly suspect. Been watching this race for 40 years. Science is ALWAYS ahead of testing measures.

@kirilstoyanov6462 Жыл бұрын

With blood transfusion….. Vingegaard won with transfusion

@larshansen4557 5 ай бұрын

And you know because ???

@shepshape2585 Жыл бұрын

I can tell you how he won it in two words: He doped. You're welcome.

@larshansen4557 11 ай бұрын

Poggi fan ?

@shepshape2585 11 ай бұрын

@@larshansen4557 cycling fan with a brain

@larshansen4557 10 ай бұрын

Naa just better in 3 week

@wtywatoad Жыл бұрын

I don't care who you were rooting for in this race. Despite not losing time to a bike change, and riding the course decidedly better than his main rival, nobody crushes their near peer rival by 6 1/2 seconds per mile without some unsanctioned assistance. This is even reinforced by the time gap placed by Pogachar over WVA's impressive 3rd place finish.

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

Are you from the doping control? Go and do your job then....nobody cares here about doping. We are here for Thecyclingdane and their stuff.

@wtywatoad Жыл бұрын

@@zaralundcy8884 If you want to be a troll, you’re going to have to do much better than that. Actually I think they should have the steroid Olympics, where consenting athletes can take as much of what they consider to be PED’s. That way when they start dropping like flies, even simps like you will figure out why there are doping controls in reputable disciplines of sports.

@bluecomposite Жыл бұрын

@@zaralundcy8884 Look at the Dauphine TT results from 3 weeks ago and TdF TT. Ketons? Yeah, right

@ChristianW1975 Жыл бұрын

And where is your evidence ? Since you are so sure, you must have some sort of documentation. If not, go troll somewhere else…

@wtywatoad Жыл бұрын

@@ChristianW1975 Reread, then digest my comment. If you have any objective understanding of the science of cycling, you’d understand that something is amiss here.

@kennethmilne6787 Жыл бұрын

Drugs ,

@l.s.7053 Жыл бұрын

Foolish comment. Typical - take it you lost

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

Fish Broth with VINEGAR, winning 'formula'

@v.dargain1678 Жыл бұрын

There you go . Omega-3 brainfood and willpower . I don't know if Vingegaard is a coffee drinker .

@abejimalvaro3679 Жыл бұрын

One word "doping" not even a fan of pogacar ew

@v.dargain1678 Жыл бұрын

Bullshit ! He ain't no Lance Armstrong . Doping is a dangerous and dumb way to win .

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

Vingegaard does not take drugs. Drugs take Vingegaard!

@josephkramer932 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone really believe he did not participate in some kind of PED?

@tawalali Жыл бұрын

He won it by doping, let's be real

@bogisimonsen471 Жыл бұрын

Go to bed as it is clearly past your bedtime. He is the most tested sports person in the world the last 13mo. So how can he be D?

@wtywatoad Жыл бұрын

@@bogisimonsen471 If you know the history of doping in cycling then you'd know there has been an arms race between the dopers and the testers going on for decades, right? Why hasn't the Riis been stripped of his tour title after he admitted after the fact that he doped for the tour in 96'?

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

@@bogisimonsen471 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 best reply ever!!!!!

@zaralundcy8884 Жыл бұрын

Who cares?????

@wtywatoad Жыл бұрын

@@zaralundcy8884 Apparently you did based on the fact that you replied.

@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын

I am so happy Pogacar won this TDF🤭🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

@majob2363 Жыл бұрын

😂

@oscarw1060 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he has done it 4 times now... In the white jersey young rider classification