How Long Will Trump Go To Jail?

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@LegalEagle 11 ай бұрын

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@foryou7673 11 ай бұрын

He will never go to jail, most likely house arrest.

@rangelfinal 11 ай бұрын

How was this commented 1h ago if the video was uploaded 1min ago?

@RohaanMenon 11 ай бұрын

@@rangelfinal it was *published* minutes ago, likely uploaded hours ago

@davea6314 11 ай бұрын

There is a prison cell waiting for Don the Con Trump! Trump should be locked up for the remainder of his life, which probably only be less than 15 years anyway.

@foryou7673 11 ай бұрын

@@davea6314 15 years is a life sentence for his body filled with cheeseburgers

@MrMartinSchou 11 ай бұрын

Colour me biased, but I am of the opinion that if a politician is convicted of a crime, they should get HIGHER punishments than normal people, and they should be judged more harshly (same goes for other groups with outsized power, like police, judges, lawyers etc.) As a politician, you shouldn't get a kid glove treatment. You write laws. If you are incapable of or unwilling to stay within the boundaries of the law, you should get smacked down WAY harder than other people. This reasoning applies to police, lawyers, judges and other similarly empowered individuals. Society has entrusted you with an outsized amount of power, and abuse of power needs to be curb stomped regardless of how small that abuse it.

@MunchKING 11 ай бұрын

That's what the +2 for "betrayal of a public trust" is supposed to cover.

@splits640 11 ай бұрын

Really! To think you're worthy of bossing people around and then do this...

@notoriousgoblin83 11 ай бұрын

@@MunchKING+2 feels too small. Same with fines. They should be percentages of income.

@thegrouchization 11 ай бұрын

@@notoriousgoblin83 Static percentages are disproportionately punishing for the lowest earners. I'd say a logarithmic scale would be better for fines (to illustrate, the penalty for a given crime could be 10% of income for a poor individual, but 50% for someone more well-off).

@katthawthorne1027 11 ай бұрын

We should absolutely be holding our public officials to a higher standard. I agree with this 100%.

@ObliqueReference 11 ай бұрын

Today I learned that federal sentencing laws work like building a character in Dungeons and Dragons.

@barryhomeowner9293 11 ай бұрын

"what's my crime modifier? Do I roll with advantage for it being a federal crime?"

@cheshirecat882 11 ай бұрын

That similarity is pretty apt, due to the law being written with the understanding that different judges will decide, that being the d20 roll. At the same time unlike dnd once convicted there will be a minimum.

@legionarybooks13 11 ай бұрын

I'm just trying to figure out whether Intelligence or Charisma is trumpy's "dump stat". Probably Intelligence, because he's mind-numbingly stupid, yet still has legions of mouth breathing disciples.

@GZilla311 11 ай бұрын

It often is a roll against a Charisma save.

@spacespector 11 ай бұрын

I have a feat to use my mind powers modifier to my thievery skill.

@TheGreatAtario 11 ай бұрын

That he was President should mean he gets *harsher* punishment, not more lenient. The more power you have, the greater a responsibility you have to be careful with it.

@ked49 11 ай бұрын

Good ol Stan lee thought us a valuable lesson

@LSgaming201 11 ай бұрын

Yeah but that isn't how it works and we all know that.

@RandomPersonOnYoutube-isinuse 11 ай бұрын

That's kind of odd considering Clinton was actually let off the hook for the same crime.

@davidarnold2456 11 ай бұрын

In fairness, the position of trust enhancement is an attempt at this, it’s not like this a novel idea.

@One_1_11 11 ай бұрын

That's the way it should work, but given how cops get away with murder, it shows that's not how our system actually works.

@itsaUSBline 11 ай бұрын

Calling 17-22 years a "long" sentence is a bit strange when you consider mandatory maximums for minor drug offenses.

@maxmcg1621 10 ай бұрын

For someone pushing 78 years of age it would be.

@elenna_alexia 10 ай бұрын

He is unlikely to survive 10

@gladtobeangry 9 ай бұрын

@@elenna_alexia He is unlikely to survive 5 days without his regimented diet of cheeseburgers.

@fartinfpooping8801 9 ай бұрын

@@gladtobeangry trump when no hamberder: 😨

@delathenleso5793 8 ай бұрын

That's because he's White, was in Government, and has political power. All three of those combined knock an order of magnitude off any sentencing in a theoretical guilty verdict, which is itself very theoretical.

@moneysins 11 ай бұрын

Trump is probably one of the most bizarre thing to happen to the legal profession.

@nhojlagap6222 11 ай бұрын

And probably the best? I'd imagine harvard law is already having a field day using this case in mock trials. With lawyers assigned to "trump" as the unwinnable case (like kobayashi maru).

@Dan55888 11 ай бұрын

Yet no one can stop him or make him face any real consequences

@Janthdanl 11 ай бұрын

@@Dan55888eh except for now lol he’s not wriggling out of this

@Jehty_ 11 ай бұрын

@@Janthdanl how often have we heard that?

@trithos7308 11 ай бұрын

@@Janthdanlwe will see. This certainly is by far the most likely thing to do him in so far.

@wade7959 11 ай бұрын

Sadly, I'll continue to doubt Trump gets any jail time for his crimes until he's actually sitting in prison.

@sirsaltines4667 11 ай бұрын

What a disingenuous way to word showing top secret documents to random people at his resort and storing them randomly in bathrooms and basements

@cyberneticraven358 11 ай бұрын

@@sirsaltines4667I wouldn’t engage. They’re just arguing in bad faith.

@Ericwvb2 11 ай бұрын

@@johnadams5694 Take your pick: obstruction of justice (many, many counts), perjury, suborning perjury, violations of the Espionage Act (unauthorized possession, concealment, removal, and/or destruction of National Defense Information), knowingly filing false court documents alleging voter fraud, tax fraud, bank fraud, wire fraud, campaign finance crimes & coverup, destruction of Presidential records, intentional interference with the performance of election duties, witness tampering, filing false public financial disclosure reports, bribery, coercion of political activity, misappropriation of federal funds, soliciting unlawful foreign campaign contributions, influencing government officials to withhold or alter a record, criminal solicitation of a felony, interfering with primaries and elections, conspiracy to commit election fraud, criminal solicitation to commit election fraud, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging any duties, interference in election by employees of federal or state governments, racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations (RICO) violation, and seditious conspiracy.

@woopimagpie 11 ай бұрын

@@johnadams5694 Wilfully ignorant bluster doesn't work on the western legal system comrade. Stick to the people you can actually fool.

@HiFiAwardTour 11 ай бұрын

@@cyberneticraven358 that’s not bad faith it’s called denial. Also I agree with Wade, I’ll believe it when I see it.

@lunaangeleclipse9745 11 ай бұрын

I honestly don't expect Trump to get any custodial sentence at all. If he does get sent to jail for any amount of time, it would seriously surprise me!

@andrewbogard2411 11 ай бұрын

I seriously doubt he will get any actual prison time. Even if convicted of the crime, he will, at the most, probably get house arrest for the length of the sentence. Him going to prison would bring me quite a bit of joy, but honestly, I doubt it would happen.

@Schadrach42 11 ай бұрын

@@andrewbogard2411 With you on that. He's too rich and connected to get real prison time, and even if perchance he does it will be in one of the nicer min security ones. Frankly, to meet his security needs they should shut down the SHU in a supermax and allocate that entire unit to him and his security detail - would serve the multiple benefit of reducing the number of inmates in solitary (which is incredibly destructive to their mental health), ensuring his security by segregating him from other dangerous inmates (just him and his security detail in the entire unit), and ensuring he sees actual punishment.

@TheGrobe 11 ай бұрын

Yeah they are not going to “disgrace the office of the president” that way, I am almost certain.

@paulm.8660 11 ай бұрын

@@andrewbogard2411 Yeah, I think house arrest is the most severe outcome that's even remotely realistic.

@freezedriedicecream 11 ай бұрын

@@paulm.8660 We sentence you to luxury

@p.strobus7569 11 ай бұрын

A big thank you to Scowl Owl for demonstrating that neither the law nor the sentencing guidelines mean anything in the face of a judge with a willingness to bend reality with a ‘convincing line of argument.’

@silv12 11 ай бұрын

Inscription on SCOTUS building: "Equal justice under law." Justice system: "It depends."

@abigails4088 11 ай бұрын

someone should hold a sign next to that, which reads something to the effect of "equal justice...unless you send DEATH THREATS... in which case you can threaten anyone else FREE AND CLEAR but the moment you threaten a REPUBLICAN SCOTUS JUDGE, you the the EVER LOVING PISS ARRESTED OUT OF YOU...

@rsr789 11 ай бұрын

They (the moneyed) love to write all of those platitudes on the buildings to either hustle the people and / or to pretend that they are actually moral, when they are anything but.

@jonc4403 11 ай бұрын

We have a legal system, not a justice system.

@ammortal 11 ай бұрын

"...except for those who appointed me."

@Anaheylaatyahoo 11 ай бұрын

Inscription on SCOTUS building: "Equal justice under law." SCOTUS: "Yeah, but only for white cisgender heterosexual Christians."

@Anna-md5nc 11 ай бұрын

So what I'm hearing is that even IF they convict him with his pet judge in charge and even IF he gets the maximum, there's still weed dealers in prison serving a longer sentence in a less cushy prison. Justice is blind indeed

@MrBrock314 11 ай бұрын

Possibly. As they say, it's not what you know, it's who you know. But, it's entirely possible that judge (for her own reasons) gives him the maximum sentence. Sure, she's likely biased to the GOP and Trump but that doesn't mean she doesn't value her own skin/career. And putting an ex-President in jail for the first time in history has its own publicity perks. She'd be guaranteed to get talk show gigs and speaking tours until the day she dies.

@vampireraef 11 ай бұрын

Clearly it's their own fault for not being born rich.

@ked49 11 ай бұрын

@@vampireraefno, have you heard of a Ponzi scheme?

@Galgamos 11 ай бұрын

While I agree with the sentiment, I'd like to add something: I think the point is that justice sadly isn't blind. The meaning of "Justice is blind" would mean that everyone is treated equally, as "Justice", or "Iustitia", the goddess of justice, doesn't see whom she is judging and acts based on the law, not based on who the accused it. It's one of those metaphors that can be understood either way, but that is the original meaning. :)

@origionalwinja 11 ай бұрын

the justice being blind part would be hillary having private servers in her home and letting the russians hack said servers of all the top secret stuff on them then smashing hard drives and phones to prevent law enforcement from getting evidence and her not getting any charges against her, but trump has HIS documents in house and yet there's some sort of calamity there.....

@benjamindoverr3455 11 ай бұрын

Former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich got 14 years for conspiring to sell a senate seat. Seems like Trump should get a LOT more time than that. (though I'd be happy with 20 years without parole).

@uncleike6211 11 ай бұрын

We don't live in a world where men like Donald Trump have to face the consequences of their actions.

@jessicaarmstrong5035 11 ай бұрын

Literally. He went through that entire video explaining the guidelines until the end where he says "Oh but they're only guidelines and the judge doesn't have to follow it." So in other words, throw all of that math out the window. All it takes is a judge who loves Trump and he walks free. Even if he's guilty, he can still walk away and become President again. The American Justice System is such a farce.

@IDGAFWYT 11 ай бұрын

Nor Joe Biden.

@miz4535 11 ай бұрын

@@IDGAFWYT Let's not pretend the two are remotely similar.

@Jacksiloution 11 ай бұрын

@@IDGAFWYTJoe biden hasn't done something like this yet or likely will do so in the future

@podfuk 11 ай бұрын

@@miz4535 no, unlike Trump, Biden is life long politicians, he is 10x worse

@westsidetrucker7943 11 ай бұрын

Its amazing how often past Trump calls out present Trump

@kingace6186 11 ай бұрын

It's genuinely shocking and eerie hearing his old speeches. Sounds like he was talking about himself the whole time.

@WyvernYT 11 ай бұрын

@@kingace6186 "Every accusation is a confession."

@audreymuzingo933 11 ай бұрын

If only it were only Trump. It's basically the Republican playbook. Like right now Marjorie Taylor Green is probably spying on you through your television.

@darlenegriffith6186 11 ай бұрын

So true, and yet will any of it matter?

@mcgeufer 11 ай бұрын

This is actually very common for narcissists. They constantly project their own intentions on other people.

@mcolville 11 ай бұрын

These sentencing guidelines are SUSPICIOUSLY SIMILAR to trying to calculate XP earned in 3rd edition when you have PCs of different levels in the same party.

@SweetBitterTruth 11 ай бұрын

The Legal Eagle team on Critical Role when??? lol

@piedpiper1185 11 ай бұрын

Rules Lawyers

@cjmars822 11 ай бұрын

Well crap, now I wonder if it’s a “Bard exam” and not “Bar exam”. Have I misunderstood all these years? lolol😂

@RiceChrispy0527 11 ай бұрын

@@cjmars822😂 that's a good one.

@RiceChrispy0527 11 ай бұрын

Damn, our judicial system is on 3e and the rest of us on 5e. 😂

@chrisnielsen3161 11 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry you had to go through that process, but as someone who isn't a lawyer, this just gave me a fundamentally better understanding of the legal system as a whole. I appreciate you guys putting this one out, you don't get this level of coverage on this kind of stuff very often.

@karenholmes2764 11 ай бұрын

Two days after this video was posted, the DOJ announced they are stacking additional charges onto the original charges.

@ngaireoleary7486 11 ай бұрын

Is this to do with the additional materials allegedly stored in other states?

@ChumblesMumbles 11 ай бұрын

For most people, the likelihood to re-offend for a case like this would be relatively low - once you get busted for stealing classified documents you're not likely to ever get your hands on any again. But for this guy - he's saying he's running for president which would put him right back in this exact same position to do the exact same crime again, so you'd think that the likelihood of re-offending would be considered extremely high.

@therealkunr5147 11 ай бұрын

That is not how the law works💀

@lyndoncope9620 11 ай бұрын

@@therealkunr5147 thats exactly how sentencing works lmao the judge considers all factors and assigns a proportional sentence - the chance of re-offense is definitely considered

@Ericwvb2 11 ай бұрын

This is President Very Stable Genius we're talking about here. Remember what Senator Collins said after his FIRST impeachment? "He's learned his lesson." He NEVER learns his lesson. I mean he does in a way, he learns he can do whatever he wants without consequences, but that's not the lesson we want him to learn.

@Sealreth 11 ай бұрын

can you even run for president with a criminal record?

@CaTastrophy427 11 ай бұрын

@@Sealreth yes, unfortunately. Might lose the right to vote but not the right to be voted for.

@redgreen2453 11 ай бұрын

I have absolutely zero faith that he will have to face any meaningful consequences whether he’s convinced or not, honestly

@thebraveguy9808 11 ай бұрын

I think anyone with common sense would agree with you here.

@Jacksiloution 11 ай бұрын

Although we all wish he did

@LordTankian0 11 ай бұрын

Let's hope.

@sjs9698 10 ай бұрын

even IF he gets the book thrown at him for ALL THE CRIMES (y'know, his actualy complete list of crimes rather than the little smattering of stuff that's doable to prove) he's rich, old, infirm, evidently of unsound mind & quite likely to be able to wriggle the few dozen centuries of prison-time he's earnt down to a year or two of house arrest & maybe some therapy. i simply can't believe he'd ever get thrown into gen-pop with a life sentence tagged to him. anyone with half a brain could deduce that his chances of surviving a week inside are basically zero, unless he's in some special prison for people as monumentally loathable as him. (there's a little one in my hometown; something like 200 staff & a couple of dozen multi-life-sentence types, it's pretty comfy.) which is ofc wildly unjust given how many people's lives get destroyed by being thrown in jail for harmless crimes, compared to the lifestyle of utter depravity (not the good kind) he seems to have been up to.

@Joaopereira-dh3dw 8 ай бұрын

The guy is free to roam everywhere anybody else wouldn't

@3rdeye7thdimension 11 ай бұрын

Thank you ScowlOwl for doing this intense research and explaining it in layman terms. I had to take several breaks just to chew through the dense brief, and you are thorough and concise. I can't imagine trying to put this madness together cohesively for a presentation.

@stevenneiman1554 11 ай бұрын

I've asked this on a bunch of different videos and other places and never got an answer: If this goes to court, how on Earth are they going to seat a jury? I am genuinely uncertain if there are 12 adult US citizens of sound mind who don't already know how they'd vote regardless of the evidence specific to their case.

@strangelf 11 ай бұрын

Probably only people who woke up out of coma that morning at this point

@scottmatheson3346 11 ай бұрын

Even in these times there are plenty of people who are turned off by politics and try not to think about it. Even for trump in favorability polls about 5% of the population report having neither a favorable nor an unfavorable opinion of trump, and 20% have negative opinions of both trump and biden - probably most people in both of those groups lack partisan leans sufficent to prevent them from judging based on the evidence. And even if you think someone with a partisan lean is incapable of judging fairly, can you prove that in voir dire?

@elizabethsohler6516 11 ай бұрын

Welcome to the fellowship.

@marygoround1292 11 ай бұрын

I love how Scowl Owl started as a commentator on Legal Eagle's reviews of Top Gun and A Few Good Men and is now a regular guest lawyer! So glad Spencer joined the team!

@---l--- 11 ай бұрын

Just hope I never see him at work!

@thrashandburn10221 11 ай бұрын

Who? Who?!

@ypw510 11 ай бұрын

I thought as a former JAG he might be able to comment on Trump co-defendant Walt Nauta. He's a former Senior Chief in the Navy and whether or not he'd be subject to the UCMJ would be interesting. Also - I heard Spencer got married. Or at least was supposed to be married by now.

@gabrielsatter 11 ай бұрын

@@ypw510 Just wait until he gets ahold of further JAG DeSantis then.

@HBoyle 11 ай бұрын

With Scowl Owl as an official correspondent I'm very much looking forward to our growing Assembly of Aviary Attorneys

@batintheattic7293 11 ай бұрын

Would it be classed as 'bird law' (Philadelphia - I salute you)?

@dougthedonkey1805 11 ай бұрын

Attorney Turkey

@bigmona2741 11 ай бұрын

Bird law!

@thrashandburn10221 11 ай бұрын

Paralegal Pigeon

@OldManSparkplug 11 ай бұрын

Aviary Attorneys : ASSEMBLE!

@JohnSmith-fz1ih 11 ай бұрын

It’s hilarious listening to all of this detail and imagining Trumps lawyer trying to explain it to him!

@Anaheylaatyahoo 11 ай бұрын

Million dollar question, how much power does the Supreme Court have over this case? Because you know Uncle Thomas et al would shut it down given half a chance.

@gregslone4874 11 ай бұрын

Only on appeal.

@vest816 11 ай бұрын

"The indictment contains 37 separate charges." Oh jeez, that's awful. "Although only 36 relate to Trump." Ah well, when you put it that way-...no wait that's still awful.

@andrewblanchard2398 11 ай бұрын

😂

@draco84oz 11 ай бұрын

Want to feel even worse? One of the things going around is that in order to charge him with retention of a document, the document in question has to be named in the indictment. Because some of the docs are still SCI/Eyes only-classified, they can't be named in the indictment, and so he can't be charged with retaining them.

@BishopStars 11 ай бұрын

@@draco84ozBut it obviously doesn't matter... If there were 3 counts or 36 counts, the sentencing guideline seems to be the same? So just drop charges related to any docs so secret they cannot be named.

@rileymcphee9429 11 ай бұрын

Oof, that footage of him railing against HRC describing exactly what he ended up doing himself is beyond perfect. It's bigly perfect 👌

@CantankerousDave 11 ай бұрын

It’s as if every accusation is a confession or something.

@lw3764 11 ай бұрын

It was the most beautiful tremendous perfect thing ever. Many people are saying this.

@emb5048 11 ай бұрын

Nasty woman ❤

@h8GW 11 ай бұрын

That clip is tremendous, it's YUUUGE. It's the clip of all clips. You couldn't ask for a better clip. The Empire State Building of clips. In my unbiased opinion, it's the best clip ever.

@narikaba439 11 ай бұрын

Because of HRC he made punishment regarding intelligent documents leak more severe. Tremendously perfect. 👍

@manueldelgado5336 11 ай бұрын

Such an important trial assigned to such an incompetent judge

@origionalwinja 11 ай бұрын

how is this important? since when is a witch hunt important? what is important would be hillarys servers and bidens corruption and his admission of corruption on national tv as he bragged about committing a felony and treason

@aaronsande 11 ай бұрын

Any rational, logical judge would have to take into account that OH MY GOD HE'S TRYING TO GET ACCESS TO THESE DOCUMENTS AGAIN and not lower the sentencing in any way.

@Mullygrubbz 11 ай бұрын

Can't help but wonder how much more confidence people would have in the legal system if politicians weren't appointing judges... What a terrible system.

@freedfree7933 11 ай бұрын

Or at least mandatory removal if you appointed the judge personally… seems like a no brainer

@ross-carlson 11 ай бұрын

Agreed totally - they should either be elected by the people or by an independent group of lawyers.

@adagamefreak 11 ай бұрын

Anytime I see "liberal or conservative judge" or worse if they affiliate with a party, yuck!

@procrastinatinggamer 11 ай бұрын

I think the US is the only developed nation to do it. I think Aus, Canada, and most of Europe have judges appointed by a non-political body and appoints them solely on merit and professional history. Political affiliations and who’s in the government’s top job at the time don’t get a look in.

@ChaoticNeutralMatt 11 ай бұрын

@@procrastinatinggamer Interesting.

@caryrabbit 11 ай бұрын

If he ever faced any real consequences I would be shocked. Too much corruption to ever have these crooks be held accountable.

@lperea21 11 ай бұрын

Everyone keeps saying this, but there is no way he can keep quiet. So he will continue to get charged with new instances of the same crime. Eventually they will have to stop him.

@youhavetoguessit 11 ай бұрын

@@lperea21nothing will stick. Politicians get away with murder... Literally. Look at the current administration >.> It would be great if we could jail them all and start fresh.

@dianapennepacker6854 11 ай бұрын

He will see jail time. Anything over a few years though? Ha I wouldn't hold my breath. No I don't have any faith in our system. It is literally broken. Worse possible thing that could happen is he runs for POTUS - WINS - then pardons himself. If that happened I wouldn't even be shocked.

@JNB0723 11 ай бұрын

@@lperea21 no jury could ever be unbiased enough to find him guilty.

@kagekitsune89 11 ай бұрын

I have 0 faith that this judge isn't going to just throw the case out or ratfuck the whole thing in his favor. She's already ruled that the 80+ potential witnesses cannot have their identities obscured, meaning those witnesses are walking targets for far right domestic terrorists.

@RobbyMaddox 11 ай бұрын

Great analysis, but it was criminally lacking a clip of (or reference to) Captain Barbosa explaining that the Code is more like "Guidelines"! I kept thinking of that the whole time and expected it to show up at any moment, but it never did... LOL

@craenor 11 ай бұрын

The greater the trust you violated, the longer the sentence should be. There's no higher trust in the US than President.

@Anaheylaatyahoo 11 ай бұрын

To be fair, who in their right mind would trust Trump?

@Pablo_Martin_aa 11 ай бұрын

@@Anaheylaatyahoo his fanbase apparently

@peterpan4038 11 ай бұрын

@@Anaheylaatyahoo I'm not defending Trump, but is there even something like an honest politician on the federal level? I mean to get that high on the political position ladder you have to lie and backstab yourself trough party politics. And as we all know: party politics is a wild jungle with survival of the fittest aka biggest bullshitter as the No1 rule. This is equally the case in both parties. You don't get power by being young and naive... you have to be more ruthless than your competitors to rise up. Finally US President is THE highest position, hence demands the most ruthlessness.

@bradonhoover3002 11 ай бұрын

@@Anaheylaatyahoo The Republican party and electoral college

@-Zevin- 11 ай бұрын

@@peterpan4038 You are right that is the way things are, but it's not how it *should* be. By having actual consequences for corruption we could actually start to reform our political system, otherwise we condone it. We should not want nor tolerate this ruthlessness or corruption as "normal" it is not.

@troycongdon 11 ай бұрын

The Confederacy and Nixon went unpunished and doing so has shaped our country, arguably, in a negative way. Please allow this man to see the inside of a jail cell for a substantial length of time. It is difficult to claim no man is above the law with Trump wandering free.

@stevevernon1978 11 ай бұрын

Nixon was pardoned. some claim it would have been better to write a specific list of charges that he was guilty of, and pardon him for each and every one of them. Trump on the other hand, faces bigger charges: Sedition or Treason on January 6th

@lmojol9673 11 ай бұрын

@@stevevernon1978 sedition or treason? lol ya right. On what grounds?

@Demortra 11 ай бұрын

@@lmojol9673 Inciting a riot as a means to overturn a legal election, taking top secret nuclear documents home and showing them to people without the security clearance to see them, keeping said top secret documents next to a copier where if it is ever proven he copied said documents and sold them, or gave them out. Ya know, nothing serious, just what most sane people have accepted, as there has been evidence stacking up and proven true along with recordings of alleged traitor Trump admitting to these acts while also appearing on news shows caught in the act of lying so badly not even his political party's news station could cover for him.

@whatelseison8970 11 ай бұрын

@@lmojol9673 The capital?

@altrag 11 ай бұрын

@@lmojol9673 Not treason - that's an extremely high bar in the US and even J6 is unlikely to reach that level. Sedition on the other hand would be completely apt. The trouble is putting together a strong enough case for the charge to stick as US law is based strongly on "intent" that would be very challenging to prove. Trump could just say "well I didn't know they would do that" and there's very little a prosecutor could do to overcome that as mindreading is not a thing that exists and "it's obvious" or "we all know" is not sufficient for the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.

@robring8961 11 ай бұрын

I do appreciate the tcg cards with +1’s used for the examples. This is brilliant.

@justaworm1 11 ай бұрын

Kudos for Yugioh card references, but the font wasn't nearly small enough .... :)

@Pirated89 11 ай бұрын

I died laughing seeing Trump's indictment counts getting thrown face up as Yugioh cards. You two guys are absolutely hilarious. Love this channel.

@kindlin 11 ай бұрын

@@Southernswag8283 Do you think he didn't do the things he's charged with? He did it, clearly, plain for all to see, while recording it to make sure they had it as evidence later, and then just tries to claim he's brilliant and already solved that issue with his mind. Yup, he just thought the problem away and bam, all the documents are suddenly unclassified, ready for use as dinner parting gifts (or at least, what, a funny talking point? idek...).

@OpDDay2001 11 ай бұрын

It is amusing because YuGiOh players often need to be lawyers to resolve card effects but also regularly are illiterate and don't read the card effects (or read them properly). I say this as a YGO player, and because it is a common meme that we don't read.

@CaTastrophy427 11 ай бұрын

@@OpDDay2001 Doesn't help that a not-insignificant portion of players use foreign language cards bc they're often cheaper. Screw being literate in English, better hope you're also literate in Japanese, French, Italian, Spanish, and a few Slavic languages for good measure. Source: I'm a former yugioh player - switched to mtg bc I wanted to go semi-casual and not have to deal with the same cards forever (yay for limited formats) and then stopped that too bc health issues prevent me from going out much. MTG has the same issue, which is why I mostly went to draft tournaments later on.

@robertt9342 11 ай бұрын

@@Southernswag8283 . Do you think him admitting it on camera and in court (through lawyers) is not him doing it?

@oogieboo1 11 ай бұрын

@@Southernswag8283 "He won’t be charged." Trump has already been charged. Also, federal prosecutor success rates are over 95%, so if it happens all the time, then a lot of people end up sentenced.

@Momo-tc7sc 11 ай бұрын

The day Donald Trump sees a single day of actual jail time, I’ll eat my hat. And I’ll do it with a smile.

@cy_young_9104 11 ай бұрын

It’s almost as if he can do no wrong.

@deanwoodward1353 11 ай бұрын

@@cy_young_9104 no he does alot of wrong but he's so insulated from concequences whats even the point?

@chaii_latte 11 ай бұрын

Same

@TheScoobysteve 11 ай бұрын

Echoing my thoughts exactly.

@mingchenzhang3113 11 ай бұрын

I suspect even he gets convicted and get prison time, it would end up be more like a house arrest than actually serving in prison.

@Elamdri 11 ай бұрын

"I just have to make sure I do all the legal research myself" Jesus the shade you just throwing In that ad read 😂

@robertstubbs9488 11 ай бұрын

Great video. Super informative as usual

@fastenbauer 11 ай бұрын

I have a bad feeling that this will end with another. "He learned his lesson. No need to send him to prison." or "The voters will decide about his future." I honestly can't imagine a man this powerful and rich going to prison.

@adammccraw7379 11 ай бұрын

Agreed. I've grown so desensitized from years of headlines with titles like "trump COULD see consequences for this", while the average citizen would already be sentenced to years in prison. He and others like him are treated like royalty.

@lerikhkl 11 ай бұрын

Definitely. No-one in power wants to have that as a precedent. If you can, as president, kill hundreds of thousands of civilians based on lies, break into your opponent's headquarters, bomb a hospital run by MSF, then you can do anything without repercussions.

@jeremymarsh569 11 ай бұрын

@@adammccraw7379 Not years, life or death.

@emma70707 11 ай бұрын

As long as the evidence isn't thrown out for BS reasons (still to be seen given the judge assigned), it's pretty darn conclusive...

@icedreamer9629 11 ай бұрын

He is a Tyrant. The US will be rid of this cancer when a brave and patriotic individual finally decides to sacrifice themself to permanently take him out. Frankly I am astounded it has taken this long. Your system is utterly corrupt to the core and you need to start taking it back from the ownership class by any means necessary.

@nicholasaholt914 11 ай бұрын

I felt a disturbance in the force... As if a million law school students cried out with joy as a new study aid is born

@rsr789 11 ай бұрын

It's not a new study aid: they already knew that the rich get preferential treatment.

@karcavida3250 11 ай бұрын

😂

@odolany 11 ай бұрын

the main presenter for this one really upped the delivery comparing to videos before. nice work! :)

@adrianvannorsdall6441 5 ай бұрын

The we need job security line made me bust out laughing lol The mix of eagles' euphoria with your hardass humor is fantastic. like a scholarly, "dude show"

@pulsefel9210 11 ай бұрын

That ghost image while describing how the judge could basically waive the whole thing is so accurate

@alack3879 11 ай бұрын

Basically fascism. He creates a safety net of cronies and they twist the law just enough for him to walk off.

@cailemkostiuk377 11 ай бұрын

In Australia we had a judge let a state politician go without having a trial. Didn’t even bother coming up with a decent excuse.

@djentyman4002 11 ай бұрын

I’m willing to bet Aileen Cannon will do everything in her power to help the very man who gave her her lifetime position. Make sure you have your popcorn ready lol

@j_117 11 ай бұрын

@@djentyman4002well she did set a very early trial date. At the very least, Trump will have to try to move it if he wants to delay things, so its nice that shes making him work to slow the process down

@laartwork 11 ай бұрын

@@j_117but the DOJ was the one who pushed it back from Aug to Dec

@curtiscraddock4718 11 ай бұрын

I seriously doubt Trump will ever see the inside of a prison. Even if he i somehow convicted the Judge will give him probation and an apology that she couldn't do more.

@analcommando1124 11 ай бұрын

Even if he gets convicted in a federal court and gets a prison sentence Biden won't pardon him but will commute his sentence. So the conviction will stand but he won't serve prison time because Biden loves Republicans too much.

@SwagLikeClem 11 ай бұрын

It is a decision that would embarrass America on a global scale, no point in causing more harm to our reputation globally. Even if it means justice will be served.

@rabbit251 11 ай бұрын

Agreed. This Judge Canon who in the past has leaned over backwards for trump. She will definitely go with probation and probably have trump's lawyers write the reasoning behind it.

@immortaljellyfish1051 11 ай бұрын

Or she will undermine the case. There is zero chance of a conviction

@noahhabbershaw8177 11 ай бұрын

Ot she might just dismiss the entire case.

@doublespoke 11 ай бұрын

damn I love this channel, so consistently good!

@andrewbogard2411 11 ай бұрын

What he actually gets is a different thing tbh, it might be the same amount of time, but be put on house arrest. It's just crazy that it would be the first official crime he would get charged with. It's not the first crime he has done, mind you, but the first one he was sloppy with and got caught up in.

@toryniemann5124 11 ай бұрын

“17 years” Hell Yeah! “10 years”, ok, still appropriate. “Possibly just probation if the judge feels like it”? Wait, stop, go back.

@garythecyclingnerd6219 11 ай бұрын

He’s getting nothing. Literally nothing. He’s got a line of judges who will obstruct and delay for him. He will die rich, free, with armed security you and I paid for.

@valentinursu1747 11 ай бұрын

I liked the hell dive/Dante reference part in the beginning. It's rare you get to see a lawyer in his true form instead of the slick human appearance 😂

@stephaniecuevas8451 11 ай бұрын

Super informative. Thank you

@TLDelapore 11 ай бұрын

America: 24 minutes of jargon even the legal expert considers tedious and then 45 seconds obliterating it by saying "judge do what judge want."

@Avarren 11 ай бұрын

More Scowl Owl please. Not that Legal Eagle isn’t fantastic but two knowledgeable, articulate, and entertaining avian lawyers is better than one.

@gw6667 11 ай бұрын

You mean _are better_

@MrBrock314 11 ай бұрын

@@gw6667 Of course they do.

@feliciasjoberg9886 11 ай бұрын

In this dystopia of a world, I think it is unfortunately likely that Trump will get off scot-free

@nasonguy 11 ай бұрын

Sure seems like a potentially sympathetic judge would be able to mess around with the sentencing guidelines A LOT....

@JTwelks32 11 ай бұрын

Can only hope so, clearly politically motivated can’t have it

@guyver9688 11 ай бұрын

NS .... Multi billinioner Never goes to jail ....

@miorosa318 11 ай бұрын

both him and the biden family will never serve time lol

@dr.floridamanphd 11 ай бұрын

@@guyver9688Bernie Madoff was worth ~$65B. He got sent to prison.

@anonymousrex5207 11 ай бұрын

The most fun part about all of this is that Trump can't help himself and will most likely say something stupid at some point during the time the case is pending that will help the prosecution. Going through the Federal sentencing guidelines was an excellent reminder of why I only practice criminal law at the State level where things are much more clear and concise regarding sentencing ranges.

@pixeltaku 11 ай бұрын

12:01 dude you CAN’T just hit me with a fire joke like that out of nowhere

@kirksanders4132 11 ай бұрын

I love how the federal guidelines for punishment can be treated by the judge like The Pirate's Code from Pirates Of The Caribbean. You can stick to it if you want but no one's going to fault you for breaking ranks as long as you state your reasoning and people agree. "It's more like guidelines anyway!"

@StefemPers 11 ай бұрын

The entire US judiciary system seems rather rickety tbh

@DefinitelyIntoxicated 11 ай бұрын

As it should be. It's rare that things are black and white, there is almost always a grey area. You would be surprised how many times I have to explain this to people.

@missyroades4533 11 ай бұрын

savvy?

@JoeNoshow27 11 ай бұрын

@@DefinitelyIntoxicated A road has guidelines. But if you don't follow them correctly you get punished for breaking the law. A judge can break guidelines all they want and still keep their job.

@Ishkur23 11 ай бұрын

Because absolutes are not justice. There will never be a set of laws or rules capable of covering all of humanity's use cases. For this reason we must permit flexibility in judgement, and exceptional circumstances to counter accepted practice.

@cheesecakeninja 11 ай бұрын

I can’t be the only one watching the sentencing guideline breakdown and thinking that this was designed by DND fans. A +2 to their criminal level 😂

@Brasswatchman 11 ай бұрын

Trick is, this stuff was issued in 2e days.

@lw3764 11 ай бұрын

Exactly, when I saw the +4 I was like wait a minute....

@austinluther5825 11 ай бұрын

Trump put all of his skill points in bluff and still fumbled the check.

@benstevens44 11 ай бұрын

A shame the whole thing still feels like a "roll with advantage" situation.

@cstrife999 11 ай бұрын

This is the best comment by a country mile

@amejade 11 ай бұрын

20:53 omg help I'm purely audio here at 12 AM in the darkness of the kitchen and I hear this??? I thought I was gonna die bro

@VinceValentine 11 ай бұрын

All those jail time tables and adding up points make sentencing look like a role playing game.

@ked49 11 ай бұрын

All trump has to do is role anything above 5 on the charisma check

@VinceValentine 11 ай бұрын

@@ked49 Will be hard with a negative modifier.

@WillWilsonthesafetyguy 11 ай бұрын

Your editor(s) are killing it. A credit in the video description wouldn't be a bad thing!

@tf2scoutpunch175 11 ай бұрын

They copied illuminaughti

@shreveweaver602 11 ай бұрын

@@tf2scoutpunch175 no they didn't. Everything illuminaughti claimed was copied was not exclusive to any one creator, or even KZfaq. Documentaries have used all those effects for years.

@snickerdoooodle 11 ай бұрын

@@tf2scoutpunch175Evidence?

@bazzfromthebackground3696 11 ай бұрын

@@snickerdoooodlethere's plenty of evidence that say they didn't lol

@shreveweaver602 11 ай бұрын

@@snickerdoooodle there is none bc it's just a misunderstanding at best, lie at worst.

@chasebemis1976 11 ай бұрын

"...laugh at the guidelines range and depart to probation." Is a system where this is possible one you can really call just? How the hell has she not been forced to recuse after last time. Judge shopping is insane.

@Vohlfied 11 ай бұрын

If she hasn't recused herself it is because she intends to overturn his conviction.

@ema2031 11 ай бұрын

@@Vohlfiedshe should be ordered to recuse herself.

@immediateegret2120 11 ай бұрын

@@ema2031 yes she should, but by whom, under what authority? Recusals are effectively on the honor system.

@IAmPattycakes 11 ай бұрын

Citizens have the duty to abolish a government that doesn't secure the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And refusing to stop the dissemination of information that is expected to cause exceptionally grave danger to the United States is definitely not helping us with that. It's treason at best.

@kenconnelly773 11 ай бұрын

@@immediateegret2120Kenosha county in Wisconsin has an interesting system that some may think as a slight improvement. A judge is assigned to oversee the trial. Up to a certain point (before trial, not during), either attorney has the right to ask for a substitution of judges and the request is presumed to have a right to be granted. The flip side is that if you request substitution, you are randomly assigned another judge and you are stuck with that one pretty much no matter what. Due to this, there’s usually an objectively compelling reason to request substitution and attorneys are careful to exercise it.

@OGNoNameNobody 11 ай бұрын

This was such a nerdy dive, I was shocked the phrase "THAC0" didn't get used.

@trapkat8213 8 ай бұрын

Very informative 👍

@qwerty3663 11 ай бұрын

And let's ignore the things he's not being charged for because the documents are too secret STILL to be presented as evidence.

@CantankerousDave 11 ай бұрын

Exactly. The various intelligence agencies had to sign off on each one. The ones in the arraignment are just the ones that are bad, but not “this project’s very existence is a secret.”

@henryward5457 11 ай бұрын

Listening to the sentencing guidelines explanation, adding more documents wouldn't change the final sentence much. So the DOJ probably reasoned that they had enough.

@justinfowler2857 11 ай бұрын

Me: No one is above the law. "Supreme" Court: Depends on how rich they are.

@Dan55888 11 ай бұрын

Dont forget "do you drink beer? Hic....."

@arcturionblade1077 11 ай бұрын

SCOTUS: "Depends on what you mean by law. That's more of a guideline."

@Drag0nmaster 11 ай бұрын

A bot stole ur comment btw, congrats!

@nickllama5296 11 ай бұрын

No filthy poors are above the law.

@unslaadkrosis3489 11 ай бұрын

That’s capitalism. No rules for rich people.

@almasysephirot4996 11 ай бұрын

Omg, Love this duo! More, more, and more! (And maybe more, but in a way you two both are a little more active back and forth or side by side)

@jimstoesz3878 11 ай бұрын

This is very informative, but everything about this makes me so incredibly angry. If an ordinary citizen did this, the agents dispatched would make *bloody* sure there'd be nothing left to even throw in jail!

@pondracek 11 ай бұрын

An ordinary citizen wouldn't be able to. No access to the privileged information to begin with. Secondly, a lot of the people calling for blood are burying their head in the sand when it comes to demanding release of non politicians like Chelsea Manning, who did more than stealing confidential information by leaking it. Thirdly, the whataboutism and lack of enforcement for politicians like Hilary is likely going to be relevant to at least some degree in a malicious prosecution and precedent defence.

@retromodernart4426 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, just like they did to former Senator and VP Joey Shitferbrainz Biden?

@gambitgames3481 11 ай бұрын

Hey, I know you probably won’t see this but I was wondering if you had any advice for a young individual wanting to become a prosecutor. I don’t really have the money for law school so I am really looking for any type of advice I can get. I am thinking about getting an internship at my local DA’s office though. Your thoughts and/or advice?

@jokerjay6975 11 ай бұрын

"The judge is going to have a very hard decision to make!" Judge Cannon - "Nope! The only hard decision I'll need to make is deciding which dictionary to use to check how to spell 'acquittal' correctly!"

@Vohlfied 11 ай бұрын

Her refusing to recuse herself is proof that she intends to overturn his conviction.

@TihetrisWeathersby 11 ай бұрын

If any other politician had these legal troubles it would be a career ender, Somehow it doesnt apply to Trump

@grimaffiliations3671 11 ай бұрын

I think it does, Indies are jumping ship

@soulknife20 11 ай бұрын

Welcome to America where the right is showing its true colors

@Dinglebearry 11 ай бұрын

That’s because republicans will never hold their own party liable for the major offenses they make. That’s why they complain about “cancel culture,” but it literally doesn’t exist when your own fans and party don’t care.

@Zalzany 11 ай бұрын

Its still kind of is he is moving campaign money to pay lawyers, and only 30% said they would vote for him so he is talking a ton of shit, but his poles are falling more this goes on. At this rate he won't have a shot at all. Even his own party is starting to not want to be seen with him. I mean a ton people registered to vote in last year just to not vote for him lol

@eliasgibson2878 11 ай бұрын

His rabid fan base views him as a God, literally nothing he does will make them change their view. Reality doesn't matter to those people

@Alakazoro 6 ай бұрын

What's with the ghost lady near the end of video? That sound spooked me so much I paused the video and took out my ear phones 😂

@jiuns8805 11 ай бұрын

Do you have a Spotify podcast channel? Would be really interested!

@MaxxJagX 11 ай бұрын

Today I learned. It's better to do 10x of the same crime and get caught once, than get caught 10x (especially since the repeat offender would increase the time)

@sabymondal 11 ай бұрын

Not getting caught is even better.

@patrickcrabb6212 11 ай бұрын

@@sabymondal The best crime is no crime.

@cat-.- 11 ай бұрын

I would say this is actually reasonable way to punish crimes

@pulsefel9210 11 ай бұрын

That's why serial killers only get caught once

@chrisbasford1536 11 ай бұрын

My worst nightmare: being sentenced to prison and then sharing a cell with tfg. Despite me having no access to classified documents, I think I’m more likely to serve time for this charge than him.

@GodsLoveIsHatred 11 ай бұрын

And they would say “hey don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”.

@michael-masi-2021 11 ай бұрын

That made me laugh quite hard, the truth is always funny. Don't worry, I'll visit you in jail.

@uRDM 11 ай бұрын

What's a tfg

@timm8860 11 ай бұрын

I think you are more likely to, considering that it is pretty much impossible to convict a president under the espionage act

@friedmule5403 11 ай бұрын

If he gets some sort of punishment, am I sure it will be made, so he has to stay at home with an angle brace or something.

@nictolopy9473 11 ай бұрын

Calculating the Total Offense Level reminded me of that scene in Clue where they were trying to remember how many bullets had been fired from the revolver. “Fine. One plus two plus one…. SHUT UP!”

@poneill65 11 ай бұрын

Bravo sir. That was masterfully done.

@fearalice 11 ай бұрын

Really sounds like the sentence for stealing and willful retention of one document is the same as 500 documents. So the message i hear being broadcast to all people with access to classified information interested in crime is "Take as much as you can, the punishment won't be much different"

@kikilo9647 11 ай бұрын

Dude my dad used to say that; politicians take enough to make that slap on the wrist worth it.

@thomascoolidge2161 11 ай бұрын

Cannon being his Judge, I believe that no matter how guilty he is found, she will give him either a slap on the wrist (don't do it again Dump..) or she will just void it all together at the very end. That would explain why she is not recusing herself and going to lengths to make it a truly "fair and legal" trial. Let it go all the way through then ignore/set aside the verdict at the end as allowed by a Judge.

@Zalzany 11 ай бұрын

He has like 8 more cases he has to beat still lol. Even if she did that, they got charges they havent hit him with they can do for same documents in New York, and New Jersey. He is facing charges for consipiracy to defraud voters in Georgia, and there is heaping pile of evidance tieing hime to Jan 6th events. I mean he had 3 more criminal cases to fight and one civil in next year as is lol And like 4 more they still dotting i's on before they formally press cahrges on him for lol.

@arcturionblade1077 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I got that sense too. All of Jack Smith's work will be for nothing, in the end, and I frickin' hate that this is the most likely outcome of this clown show of a trial.

@efad3215 11 ай бұрын

Could an interlocutory motion to recuse and subsequent appeal work?

@thegrouchization 11 ай бұрын

She's also specifically moved the trial out of the district where the crime allegedly took place to one where the jury pool is heavily weighted in Trump's favour.

@Iris_1217 11 ай бұрын

@@Pendelton7030Thank god for that.

@REOswedewagon 6 ай бұрын

Fuckin hilarious to me how advertisers get to choose where to advertise, but creators don't get to choose whose adverts show up on their videos. I just got a Dailywire preroll.

@JonBrown-po7he 8 ай бұрын

Your portrayal of #45 as a 'man-child' is hilariously apropos. Thanks a lot for the info and the 'tainment' as well!

@edwardwright8127 11 ай бұрын

“A good lawyer knows the law but a great lawyer knows the judge. “ And a great defendant owns the judge? “Greatest defendant in history!”

@jintsuubest9331 11 ай бұрын

Play golf with the judge every other weekend.

@CheezMonsterCrazy 11 ай бұрын

You don't even have real money until you own a Supreme Court Justice.

@joewilson3393 11 ай бұрын

I love Trumps claim that he didn't have time to go through the boxes, even though it only took his attorney an afternoon to clean out the boxes he actually gave him.

@artyomarty391 11 ай бұрын

kiddo, I got letters from last year I have yet to open And you saying I should be ok with opening and scanning entire boxes? And thats what lawyers are for... They know mail. They get mail every day. They have a natural ability to seek out the important stuff efficiently I worked at a law office and a box of legal documents was nothing, because its what we do. But any client faced with a box like that would be immediately overwhelmed

@nickmccack 11 ай бұрын

Bone spurs must've flaired up

@BlowWord. 11 ай бұрын

He also easily found the secret documents he wanted to show off lol

@FIRING_BLIND 11 ай бұрын

@@artyomarty391sure. But then maybe....just maybe....he shouldve left those big old boxes behind in the first place. Don't have to go thru them if you don't have them. Also I'm sure you have a full time job. From reports on what Trump does most days, he definitely had the time to do this to avoid committing a federal crime

@jacqdanieles 11 ай бұрын

@@artyomarty391yeah, solid defense there, bud, especially when top secret documents are involved 😂

@lil_cheef123 5 ай бұрын

I need a tee shirt with this description of trump with that photo 0:40

@TonyHulk 11 ай бұрын

Is Legal Eagle going to make a tradable card game with this point system and court battle and crazy criminals? I want the first pack!

@888fatboy 11 ай бұрын

Should Congress pass a public pardon review board similar to what some states use to prevent presidential pardon abuses? Definitely there should be a prohibition on self-pardons or pardons to cover-up a presidential criminal conspiracy.

@TheBrothergreen 11 ай бұрын

This isn't a presidential conspiracy. This is a perfectly normal conspiracy. Everything he's accused of was done by trump the citizen, which is the only reason why he can be tried at all. Anything the president does as the president is all but untouchable. See trump's entire presidency.

@stevekjr9563 11 ай бұрын

Looks like someone failed to understand the 3 Branches of Government and separation of powers concept in their Government and Civics Class.

@FirestormMk3 11 ай бұрын

Probably should, but that would require a constitutional amendment, since that's a separation of powers issue. The authority of the executive pardon cannot be altered with a normal act of Congress. That means it isn't happening even if the overwhelming majority of people want it, and there isn't that kind of pressure for such a change.

@itsaUSBline 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I guess this sort of thing has never happened before so they didn't think to make a specific rule for it. Most reasonable people likely assumed it would be absurd for a president to try to pardon themselves.

@TheBadGab 11 ай бұрын

@@itsaUSBline well Ford pardonned Nixon so it did kind of already happen

@PaleImperator 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, we didn't touch on the "Wait, this guy's really wealthy!" mandatory sentencing reduction.

@MrBrock314 11 ай бұрын

That would be in the unwritten norms section.

@itsaUSBline 11 ай бұрын

It actually did. That's part of the section on considerations. I feel like half the people commenting didn't even watch the video.

@PaleImperator 11 ай бұрын

@@itsaUSBline Yes, I recognize that position within and contributions to a community would be among the factors to be weighed in the guidelines. The joke is that there would be a mandatory sentencing reduction strictly for wealthier individuals, which is - as far as I know - not actually a part of federal sentencing guidelines (if only because they are - as the video made quite clear - not mandatory).

@ninjobo 11 ай бұрын

At 9:13, the note on screen is incorrect (guy states it correctly though). The distinguishing factor for offense level is level of classification, not whether it was intentional retention.

@trishapellis 11 ай бұрын

Scowl Owl's way of talking reminds me so much of Reid from Scishow. The same gestures, same cadence, he even does the same kind of pauses in the same kinds of places.

@_____alyptic 11 ай бұрын

If any civilian or soldier would get life, so should he. Bc If he can commit an unprecedented level of crimes, he can deal with the unprecedented level of punishment.

@Zalzany 11 ай бұрын

Some of it was war plans that should get him capital punishment just saying...

@nerfherder4284 11 ай бұрын

His breach of leadership is with every American, +2 pts seem too little.

@BFLmouse 11 ай бұрын

Donald Trump is 75 years old. A 20 year sentence would mean he'd be in jail until he turns 95. Given that the average lifespan in the USA is around 80 years, and DJT is not known for anything even remotely resembling a healthy lifestyle, there's a very good chance that he would die of natural causes before being released from prison.

@dkroll92 11 ай бұрын

this is literally a 24 minute video that explains how a civilian or soldier *wouldn't* get life

@TheInfiniteSheldon 11 ай бұрын

One does not go to jail when the Judge is your Defense Attorney.

@mitharlic 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I finally understand how to calculate CR for DnD encounters now!

@derekbusby7662 8 ай бұрын

Wow, job well done. Ouch. I am feeling the char from the 3rd ring, 7th circle.

@daiakunin 11 ай бұрын

Federal sentencing guidelines is the weirdest rpg system I've ever heard of, but I'm still willing to give it a shot. Devin is obviously the charismatic paladin, Spencer is the know it all wizard, and I'll be the smart ass rogue.

@insanittiez4860 11 ай бұрын

It’s an rpg that isn’t fair to new players. The judges for seem reason always seem to crit when fighting news players. Against P2W or seasoned veterans, they can’t crit and their damage is nerfed.

@HororKodStudio 11 ай бұрын

The more I know about the US legal system, the more I find it baffling that it's considered "Justice". The Judges can basically rule whatever they want and as long as they provided some semblance of reason, it's aaaaalll good. Given how Judges are politicized figures in the US, it's completely mental. Amazing breakdown though.

@maythesciencebewithyou 11 ай бұрын

That's the case in every country. The final judgement goes to the judge.

@smeezer 11 ай бұрын

@@maythesciencebewithyou No. Canada has mandatory minimum penalties for several crimes. Treason, for example, has an MMP of life.

@JoeOvercoat 11 ай бұрын

In the USA we have justice for the rich and/or famous, and justice for the rest of us. So it has always been. And evidently, so it will always be.

@smeezer 11 ай бұрын

@@JoeOvercoat That's my point. what's true in the USA is rarely true everywhere

@MrBrock314 11 ай бұрын

@@maythesciencebewithyou It's not the case. In most (democratic) countries, judges are bound to certain guidelines to prevent exactly this type of shenanigan. Also, in most countries I can think of Aileen Cannon wouldn't be allowed near the Trump case as conflict-of-interest laws would probably ban her. Having a judge that is prejudicial to the defense is definitely grounds for removal in most societies. For example if you had a judge that consistently gave higher (or lower) penalties to a race, that judge would not get those cases and probably be disbarred. If the judge's brother worked for a company that was before them, they wouldn't get the case automatically. Aileen Cannon may not be related to Trump directly but running as a Republican would get her off the case in most countries. Judges are allowed to vote but they're not generally allowed to have much public voice, for example, here in Canada. Some of that is via tradition (oh no, norms!) but not all of it. And conflict-of-interest laws and the right to a fair trial supersede judicial authority in the vast majority of cases. The goal is to have a fair trial not make judges happy.

@AeonStar1 10 ай бұрын

The Sentencing Guidelines are more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

@Lucypaw1 7 ай бұрын

I won't say this made navigating sentencing guidelines sexy, but… OK, actually, it did make it super nerd sexy. It was a clear and engaging explanation with a self-awareness that it is really a slog to go through the guidelines even when one wants to know about them and helping balance that with humour. Very well done

@amywhelan4888 11 ай бұрын

This breakdown of the federal sentencing guidelines is fascinating and so well done! But I have to be perfectly honest: I have absolute zero faith that Trump will be convicted, and even if by some miracle he is, I doubt these guidelines will be observed. People at Trump’s level of power and wealth are never held accountable to the letter of the law. I feel very cynical about this whole case.

@HilikusMan 11 ай бұрын

Finally someone speaking truths. It's so cute that so many in the US still believe that "all men are equal under the law".

@damianjonsson1688 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, in the great ol' USA it turns out that money puts a thumb on the scale in the wealthy criminal's favor

@lukeshepard9535 11 ай бұрын

@@HilikusMan Very powerful people have been taken down before. It is deliberately ignorant to act as if it never happens. I would say, the fact it happens at all is proof that the saying is very true.

@screamingcactus1753 10 ай бұрын

@@lukeshepard9535 For every billionaire and politician who is actually punished for their crimes, there are dozens more who commit similar crimes and are never touched. They are the exception that proves the rule, the scapegoats that are occasionally thrown to the wolves to keep the rest of the ruling class safe.

@lukeshepard9535 10 ай бұрын

@@screamingcactus1753 Thats a small group of people in the grand scheme of things. And my point was that because even some at all are punished is proof that they arent untouchable. Was never arguing that corruption didnt exist, or that others dont dodge consequences.

@Konitama 11 ай бұрын

I mean if we're being honest here, the judge is in his pocket and he's going to get either a ridiculously light sentence or no sentence at all if she can swing it. It will be extremely hard to actually appeal it and get a new judge and all of that, unless she just completely bumbles it and proves to show bias that they can actually use to remove her from being the judge. But most likely he gets out of this with no punishment, which would just be insane.

@wanderinwolf3804 11 ай бұрын

She shouldn't even be allowed to preside over the case. A judge appointed by the defendant has clear conflict of interest at that point. How she is allowed to preside over the case just shows how "all men are equal under the law" is not the case, and has never been the case.

@119beaker 11 ай бұрын

I will be astounded if it even goes to trial.

@player400_official 11 ай бұрын

Prosecution could take the roll and change the judge though.

@wyskass861 11 ай бұрын

It will hinge on how smart this judge is to do as much as possible without going overboard and being obvious about it, allowing for an appeal.

@JoeOvercoat 11 ай бұрын

@@wyskass861and even as a worst case, punting to an appeal is an option, because they just need to run out the clock until Trump is either in office again, or died of natural causes.

@rsr789 11 ай бұрын

This is the first time I've heard a lawyer in the US openly admit that the system is purposely complex not in order to help serve justice, but rather in order for lawyers to continue to be gainfully employed. A lawyer that admitted the truth that the entire system is broken and corrupt beyond repair. Way to go America, way to go.