How Mace Windu Knew NOT to Trust Anakin From Day One

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3 жыл бұрын

Mace Windu has always been the gatekeeper for the Jedi Order today we look at why he never trusted Anakin Skywalker.
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@casbot71
@casbot71 3 жыл бұрын
If Mace Windu had become a Force Ghost, he never would have let Obi-Wan and Yoda forget _his_ opinion of Anakin… A constant haunting "I told you so".
@enki6676
@enki6676 3 жыл бұрын
Rofl, imagine a reunion between Yoda, Obi-Wan, Mace's and Anakin's Force Ghosts. Awkward silence: 'Yeah ... about that time I sliced your arm off and got you yeeted out the windu to your death under deadly high voltage lightning ... sorry about that dude.'
@luketimewalker
@luketimewalker 3 жыл бұрын
After Grandmaster Yoda... ...Grandmaster Toldya
@snippetandvideogames2350
@snippetandvideogames2350 3 жыл бұрын
fortunately qui gon only teach yoda and obi wan. and obi wan teach the way to back from the netherworld of the force only for anakin
@kerrychristensen7204
@kerrychristensen7204 3 жыл бұрын
"I told you, mothaf*ckas! I told you! Didn't I say? Let me- SAY IT AGAIN"
@lunaticweeb250
@lunaticweeb250 3 жыл бұрын
@wowalinbie until disney said plot go brrr
@donalny
@donalny 3 жыл бұрын
"We have this insanely powerful child with a lot of emotional issues who is very impressionable and capable of doing great harm. Let's abandon him. and if we can't do that, let's treat him like trash and remind him he's an outside every chance we get. What could go wrong?"
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 3 жыл бұрын
Yea the jedi Need mental health counselors
@thomasplinguidy4588
@thomasplinguidy4588 3 жыл бұрын
@Donal Murphy: this is the best summary of the Jedi mistakes in Star Wars Episode 2 I´ve ever read!
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech To be clear Palpatine know that Anakin is his son/clone (it is confirmed). So it all was part of the plan.
@tangofett4065
@tangofett4065 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Plinguidy look for the thread that got started with my comment. Lol it’s a good read... you won’t be disappointed. I agree with Donal 100%.
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 3 жыл бұрын
Generation Tech actually that was one of the biggest problems with the Jedi order in the first place not to mention how many spaces do you have to deal with they never looked into the mental side or the disability piece to it.
@VinVonVoom
@VinVonVoom 3 жыл бұрын
"That boy ain't right" - Mace Windu, probably
@reishakyu3553
@reishakyu3553 3 жыл бұрын
The irony.. mace windu is actually a big part of reason anakin turned into the dark side.. windu, padme, jedis breaking their codes, constant brainwash of palpatine pitting anakin to another, lifting his ego in every chance they meet one another, anakin put up ALOT tbh, his faith to the light side was actually strong but no one in the jedi council is helping at all, not even yoda. Matter of fact some made him worse like windu on him lol. Such a tragic story for a good guy like anakin, as for obi wan all he ever advise is things that are true and out of love to anakin, its palpatine who made him looked like the things anakins thought such as doubtful/underestimating etc.
@nicktorres5984
@nicktorres5984 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu: Last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye.
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 3 жыл бұрын
So cats DO have force powers! I knew it!
@camdenlikes6724
@camdenlikes6724 3 жыл бұрын
In this case he lost a hand! 🤚🏾 😂
@ramonewilson3967
@ramonewilson3967 3 жыл бұрын
@@camdenlikes6724 thats one big cat with big lightsaber clawd paws to take off his hand!😂
@orlenespinal5788
@orlenespinal5788 3 жыл бұрын
And a hand
@christianali5431
@christianali5431 3 жыл бұрын
So stupid. There I say it, stupider than the entire Disney trilogy of Star Wars combined. At least we got something like baby Yoda out of Disney and Star Wars together. The cat scratched thing was just completely out of left field, had nothing to do with the way Nick fury described his accident, and was treated as a throwaway joke at the expense of one of the most awesome characters in the Marvel movies. Why did they do it? To make their feminist wildcard look better. Captain marvel can be an ace in the hole if she wants to be, as long as she goes back in there into the hole, once she’s done acing.
@mikevasquez1103
@mikevasquez1103 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu misinterpreted the shatterpoint that was young Anakin leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy. He should have trained Anakin instead of trying to reject him. As someone who walked the line between the light and the dark, Mace Windu was the only Jedi truly qualified to take Anakin as a Padawan.
@TY-km8hj
@TY-km8hj 3 жыл бұрын
Qui gon jinn was acc probs the best person to acc train anakin but after him I'd say mace should've.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 3 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with that.
@mikevasquez1103
@mikevasquez1103 3 жыл бұрын
@@TY-km8hj Qui-Gon was a bit too dead at the time hence my comment about Mace Windu.
@TY-km8hj
@TY-km8hj 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikevasquez1103 well yh ofc😂
@mikevasquez1103
@mikevasquez1103 3 жыл бұрын
@@TY-km8hj Had Qui-Gon lived, he should have left the Jedi Order and taken Anakin with him to train him with the entities who were teaching him the Force Ghost technique.
@Kal-El_was_taken
@Kal-El_was_taken 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad Windu couldn't identify the shatter points in himself.
@adamkitbashes8067
@adamkitbashes8067 3 жыл бұрын
Haha facts! If he wasn’t such a dick to Ahsoka! He’d probably have still lived
@stahlseuche
@stahlseuche 3 жыл бұрын
I can just picture Mace opening up a dictionary and starts going through the pages then sees a huge shatter point around the word citizen lol
@vos7619
@vos7619 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamkitbashes8067 The way she was acting he responded to her appropriately.
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 3 жыл бұрын
@@vos7619 Sounds like they belonged to one another. Never liked either.
@adamkitbashes8067
@adamkitbashes8067 3 жыл бұрын
Q. Vos I don’t know bro he was purposefully a dick to her honestly
@daniels7907
@daniels7907 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin had daddy issues (a genetic Skywalker trait) and Obi-Wan was so young that he was more like an older brother. With Qui-Gon dead, Anakin was left without a father figure and Windu, along with most of the Jedi, were unable to even comprehend his need. Palpatine did though, and had free rein to manipulate Anakin largely because of Windu's antagonistic attitude towards Anakin.
@redrumssam5888
@redrumssam5888 3 жыл бұрын
His attitude wasn't antagonistic, he just didn't trust him.
@daniels7907
@daniels7907 3 жыл бұрын
@@redrumssam5888 - Oh please! Remember when Anakin came to Windu to tell him that Palpatine was a Sith Lord and Windu said right to his face that he will have gained his trust if it's true? Anakin had been in the Order for almost a decade and a half at that point! Windu just bluntly stated, in front of three other Jedi Masters, that he had not trusted Anakin in all those years! That's aside from the condescending tone he almost always used with Anakin. Windu is one of the biggest reasons that Anakin felt like such an outsider among the Jedi! Maybe if Windu was so concerned he might have considered trying to be more of a mentor and less of a schoolyard bully?
@CuntyMcCuntface-ug5gt
@CuntyMcCuntface-ug5gt 3 жыл бұрын
Ethan Kellerman Wasn’t it his master? I might be wrong I’m not that deep into Star Wars lore
@redrumssam5888
@redrumssam5888 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniels7907 Because after being in the Jedi order for about a decade in a half its extremely blatant that Anakin us extremely emotional, something that the Jedi are NOT supposed to be. He's brash and foolhardy. And I don't see his condescending tone towards anakin.
@daniels7907
@daniels7907 3 жыл бұрын
@@redrumssam5888 - Which says more about Jedi incompetence as teachers than it does about Anakin's personality, which demonstrably got *worse* after he was taken on as a Padawan! The Jedi were so accustomed to brainwashing babies that they had absolutely no idea how to raise a child who had lived the first nine years of his life outside of the Order - as a *slave!* It's frankly rather amazing that the galaxy isn't littered with *lots* of powerful Force sensitives that the Jedi didn't manage to catch before they were "too old" to train. Even more amazing that loads of Dark Side factions weren't having a great time recruiting these Jedi rejects and building orders of their own....
@stormz202
@stormz202 3 жыл бұрын
"You need to trust someone to be betrayed, I never did" -Mace 19BBY
@bigchungus1086
@bigchungus1086 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't captain price also said that?
@stormz202
@stormz202 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigchungus1086 I know but that's joke
@chip5892
@chip5892 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu had a student that harboured extreme hatred towards sand. It didn’t scare him enough then. It does now.
@captmack007
@captmack007 3 жыл бұрын
Mace: you're not Jedi material, you better for sith. Anikin: well ok
@Sumschmuck
@Sumschmuck 3 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I am the Senate! Mace windu: Not yet, motherf***er
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder Anakin turned on Mace when push came to shove. And I totally forgot their respective actors reunited in Jumper.
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah proving Mace Windu totally right. When push came to shove Mace should've kill Anakin as soon as he arrived in Emperor Palpatine Room disobeying his order and reason to trust him.
@RaMraM-zm1el
@RaMraM-zm1el 3 жыл бұрын
No, Mace Windu was only technically correct. But the reason Anakin turned on him is the events that happened leading to that scene. Mace is a literal asshole to Anakin from the start. If he wasn't, he would still have his hand and "life".
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaMraM-zm1el Oh if Mace Windu was nice to that Scumbag Anakin, then he wouldn't have betrayed him, Qui Gon Jinn who was like a father to him, Obi Wan who was like a brother to him, his own wife and the whole Jedi Order that was his home but he betrayed them all. I guess the younglings was mean to him too? Anakintard Logic. News alert Anakin came there after getting direct orders from Mace not to come because he could help or save Palpatine. So he already decided to turn Darkside before he even walk through that door.
@tf-mr-blue748
@tf-mr-blue748 3 жыл бұрын
@jonn Then the Jedi would've never lasted as long because Palpatine would've found him on tatooine and Trained him to film with potential
@leon4000
@leon4000 3 жыл бұрын
@arronnov Aren't we forgetting something. The dreams Anakin had may have been influenced possibly by Sidious (Palpatine) to stoke Anakin's fears on top of giving him a position in the Jedi Council. That guy was making sure Anakin was still in his hands. And like the other guy said, Palpatine would eventually sensed Anakin and acquire him before the Jedi did in the scenario if Qui-Gon didn't get to him first. And I'd rather not easily look past the decisions the Jedi made that caused them to lead to their own demise.
@501ststormtrooper9
@501ststormtrooper9 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I believe that if the Jedi Order accepted actually having human emotions, Anakin might have not fallen to the Dark Side.
@n0wheregrrl
@n0wheregrrl 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, the Jedi code (the most popular/well-known version) is flawed and wrong, and the Sith don't even actually follow their code. The Jedi code is problematic because it calls for a rejection of human nature and, ironically (given Obi-Wan's words), preaches absolutes. The fact is, the antithesis of passion is not serenity-it's apathy. And the antithesis of emotion is not peace-it's closer to psychopathy! Meanwhile, the statement "there is no ignorance" implies _precisely_ the kind of arrogance we actually _see_ when Jocasta Nu declares, "If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist." As for the Sith, they don't follow their own code because they talk about the Force freeing them, but then they all act like slaves. Think I'm wrong? Then why aren't Sith permitted to love, to feel compassion, to show mercy? If they were really free, they'd be free to be whomever they wished. If they were really powerful and believed it, then they'd have the power to make those kinds of choices. As Claire Stanfield/Vino says in Baccano!, "In my mind, it's the certainty in myself that I possess which allows me to have that kind of mercy or compassion. There's no wavering on that point. It's fixed like the stars. The fact is, I'm never gonna be killed! So remember this: mercy and compassion are virtues that only the strong are privileged to possess. And I ... am _strong."_ What's especially interesting about that last point is the Sith code isn't, as written, necessarily evil at all. You could even say that Monkey D. Luffy (of One Piece) is a better follower of the Sith code than any actual Sith! And yet, whatever his flaws, he's definitely a good and heroic guy.
@steviegilliam5685
@steviegilliam5685 3 жыл бұрын
@@n0wheregrrl it kind of show the imbalance of logic and emotion Jedi being soley logic and sith being soley emotional
@leivaandre
@leivaandre 3 жыл бұрын
@@steviegilliam5685 grey Jedi’s for life
@nerdy_1439
@nerdy_1439 3 жыл бұрын
@@leivaandre ahsoka is probably one if the few grey jedi we see
@NeilCWCampbell
@NeilCWCampbell 3 жыл бұрын
The code ok It the whole stealing children thing that needs fixing to have emotionally stable jedi. I mean screw the sith but also forget the jedi
@Archangelglenn
@Archangelglenn 3 жыл бұрын
I will point out that Mace was never trustful of Anakin until that moment when he confessed to him that Uncle Palp was Grandpa Sith that he did end up trusting him finally. He even says it in the movie. "If what you say is true then you have earned my trust this day"
@mechengr1731
@mechengr1731 3 жыл бұрын
Which is kind of a backhanded compliment. Yeah, ive watched you grow up and I've sent you on several dangerous missions over the past 3 years. But TODAY, you will have earned my trust." Yeah, totally not a slap in the face
@jeremyallen5974
@jeremyallen5974 3 ай бұрын
​@@mechengr1731And people wonder why the kid sided with Palps when the Golden Child of the Jedi Order had no problem spitting in his face so blatantly
@Shamoose
@Shamoose 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing about Mace Windu I hated was the fact that he straight up said “the force works in mysterious ways” instead of apologizing to Ahsoka
@keepinitkawaii
@keepinitkawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Hes super prideful. Has he ever admitted fault?
@Shamoose
@Shamoose 3 жыл бұрын
Elle Marie not that I can think of- in fact I don’t think there has been a moment
@Shamoose
@Shamoose 3 жыл бұрын
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 to be fair with him, he would have gotten his ass killed by Jango Fett most likely
@harrambou9468
@harrambou9468 3 жыл бұрын
Shamoose Is that something Mace Windu would’ve said in the movies?
@CorvusCorone68
@CorvusCorone68 3 жыл бұрын
@@keepinitkawaii to admit fault is to admit weakness and weakness is the whole point of the Shatterpoint; i think he was instinctively trying to avoid that happening to himself
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын
Windu know how much Anakin didn’t like sand, so he told him to take a seat
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 3 жыл бұрын
@Joe Curr And quite hateful.
@LJ-qf9pi
@LJ-qf9pi 3 жыл бұрын
Take a seat now boy
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't stand there!"
@cameronmatlock6535
@cameronmatlock6535 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@BaselBannoud
@BaselBannoud 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin: The chosen one, The jedi order's only hope, The one who will bring peace to the galaxy, The jedi order: *Lets pretend we didn't see that..*
@kelvinbremont1341
@kelvinbremont1341 3 жыл бұрын
Which led to their downfall!!
@rebelfighter5249
@rebelfighter5249 Жыл бұрын
Lol. The Jedi were all down with the Chosen One prophecy, until they learned it was a 9 year old kid born of a virgin through the Force itself, with serious abandonment issues which in turn made him unstable. Yeah. They cooled off real quick when they realized they couldn't control Anakin as well as they thought they could. They were terrified of the change he represented. Kinda like how Christ upended the Pharisees and Sadducees religious dogma when He walked the earth during his 3 year ministry.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think you are wrong about one thing. I’ve seen before, so to me this makes sense, that the real reason Windu told Anakin to go wait in the Chamber was because he was going to promote him to Jedi Master when he got back (assuming he succeeds). That’s why Windu says basically, “In everything you said it true, you have *EARNED* my trust.”
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 жыл бұрын
Generations tech when do you think you can make more Star Wars what ifs because we miss you doing them
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 3 жыл бұрын
I think well do another one soon involving mace and anakin
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech why not make what if Yoda trained Anakin Skywalker or make these ones what if pong Krell never turn to the dark side what if Count Dooku trained Anakin Skywalker while Qui-Gon Jinn still trained Kenobi or what about the opposite Qui-Gon trains Anakin Wilde Dooku trans Kenobi or what about this one what if Sifo-Dyas never died and the council believed him
@kennithunderwood1086
@kennithunderwood1086 3 жыл бұрын
gerardo covarrubias I second this ^
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech Would you do a theory that Baby Yoda is actually son of Yoda and Yaddle? She left order exactly 50'y years before events of Mandalorian. Furthermore all members of this rare nameless specie were force sensitive. Jedi order make also exceptions if specie survival was a factor allowing occasional marriages and Yoda specie absolutely qualify.
@isaacfoster1377
@isaacfoster1377 3 жыл бұрын
What if the jedi had learned of the bio chips and had begun disarming them (say either close to the end of the clone wars or near order
@Mr66sharingan
@Mr66sharingan 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh so even when Mace was trying to protect the jedi order. His neglect towards Anakin was also a contributing factor to Anakins downfall. Interesting. The force will always find a way to balance itself out.
@nerdy_1439
@nerdy_1439 3 жыл бұрын
Besides the jedi assumed when the prophecy meant bring balance to the force they'd assume it was for their own sakes. And plus its not like they tried to understand what anakin would do to bring balance to the force
@LeChatALunettes
@LeChatALunettes 10 ай бұрын
​@nerdy_1439 exactly, everytime I hear the Jedi saying he'll bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith, I'm like "do you know that balance means both sides equal? Which means he'll destroy everyone" This just shows how self entitled the Jedi were. They considered themselves the actual middle ground, representing true balance even though they were absolute in many cases. They couldn't see their wrongs.
@terrymiller111
@terrymiller111 3 жыл бұрын
Samuel L. Jackson's conditions for taking the Mace Windu role: 1. "I want a purple lightsaber. I want to be able to see myself in the huge battle scenes." 2. "I want to die an epic death. I ain't goin' out like no bitch."
@michaelrunk5930
@michaelrunk5930 3 жыл бұрын
Except that's exactly how he died like a bitch. He got his hand whacked off and was electrocuted and thrown out a window.
@chickedy134
@chickedy134 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrunk5930 thats a pretty epic death ngl
@nerdy_1439
@nerdy_1439 3 жыл бұрын
That actually was one of the most epic death scenes since well if you haven't seen the original movies like me as I actually went in order 😅 its pretty shocking to see and well lets face it, we all don't know whether mace windu died or survived. As we just see his body being flung off the window
@michaelrunk5930
@michaelrunk5930 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdy_1439 actually we do know just never seen it. Lucas stated years ago that Mace survived. Sorry my comments are really harsh because I always hated Mace. I always thought he was a special kind of dick. He was also the most arrogant of all the members of the Jedi Council. When Ashoka was cleared and he realize the council was wrong and what he said to Ashoka was bs. Like promoting her to Jedi Knight makes everything they did okay. They didn't even try and just apologize and admit they where wrong. Then when she was talking to council on hologram and Mace called her citizen and that info they had was for Jedi made him even more of a dick. She left because of the order. I was glad when Mace got whacked. I was one of the only people in theaters cheere as Jedi where getting knocked off. Which earned me some dirty looks. Sense end of clone wars series him getting whacked by Anakin and Palpatine was so much sweeter.
@grueslayer
@grueslayer 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw that scene with Anakin where he's surrounded by Jedi. I knew what he becomes later (as we all did). When they talked about the kid bringing balance to the force I figured "Yeah, he sure does bring balance... there are TOO MANY GOOD GUYS so he achieves that balance by slaughtering most of them throughout the universe."
@AdiAfendi
@AdiAfendi 3 жыл бұрын
If Mace Windu had taken young Anakin as his Padawan, things might turn out very, very differently.
@hj2479
@hj2479 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because like Anakin, Windu also had a temper and so he channeled it into forms of fighting that combined some dark side abilities with a light side fighting technique. He walked the thin line and trained himself with discipline, something obi-wan never did with Anakin. Anakin became a free spirit like obi-wan and his anger doubled with that made him dangerous. You know what they say though, "the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
@Thecloaker_
@Thecloaker_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Rittenhouse is a Hero I think he wouldn’tve destroyed the republic and killed those younglings that’s for sure.
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader trial speedrun. Anakin would be turned faster because of Vaapad and stuff. But the lack of empathy from Windu would just make the borderline kid grew up full of hate.
@piercepayumo4212
@piercepayumo4212 3 жыл бұрын
Windu could have showed Anakin a better path and he could have been a better person. Had he have trusted him more, Anakin probably wouldn't have turned to the darkside... and Mace wouldn't have lost his arm.
@metroidhunter965
@metroidhunter965 3 жыл бұрын
Mace would have been able to teach Anakin how to control his dark side tendencies. That’s why Anakin found so much solace in Palpatine. As much of a badass as Obi Wan was, he was ill-suited to be a teacher and mentor to Anakin. Remember, he was still learning when Qui Gonn was killed.
@OrionFive
@OrionFive 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, he lost a little more than just an arm.
@jde-jj1lu
@jde-jj1lu 3 жыл бұрын
@@metroidhunter965 Because of Obi-wan?
@Vince-tt1uj
@Vince-tt1uj 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin would still panic about Padme dying, he would still betray them because Palpatine offered a solution.
@felixwankel3989
@felixwankel3989 3 жыл бұрын
Not Windu's job to raise another nigga's baby.
@SquirrelASMR
@SquirrelASMR 3 жыл бұрын
They made mace windu seem like such a dik to anakin, but there was a deleted scene where he was telling obi wan to have faith in anakin after obi wan was saying it was true anakin was too old to train and arrogant, but mace was nice.
@imbattle796
@imbattle796 3 жыл бұрын
I think Mace windu relationship or rather thoughts about Anakin Changed in between Attack of the clones and Revenge of the sith
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 3 жыл бұрын
IMB Sdocc yeah well that because anakin was getting way to F close to palpatine a political person of power now less at the time who the Jedi where getting very suspicious of during the end of the clone wars can’t really blame him for being suspicious of that to be honest Mace windu episode 3 ROTS it’s very dangerous putting them both together I don’t think the boy can handle it I don’t trust him Not to mention what happened earlier before this speech of mace to obi there was that outburst anakin had with the Jedi council anakin :WHAT 😡how can you do this it’s outrageous it’s unfair how can you be on the council and not be a master mace windu TAKE A SEAT YOUNG SKYWALKER! 🤨 I think mace seeing that out of him and him being close to palpatine caused a change of mistrust in windu heart for anakin
@imbattle796
@imbattle796 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 I strongly agree !
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Mace was the one who wanted him to spy on Palpatine in the first place, or was probably involved in the decision as one of the leaders of the order. Anakin's personal connection made him unsuitable for the position to begin with. If he thought him so unsuited WHY DID HE SEND HIM TO DO IT? Why did he not remove him from the position and use someone else to spy on him? Its like "Oh I'm going to send this boy who's really close the Chancellor to spy on him, and then say that we can't trust him because he's too personally connected". Stupid. Illogical. Also, if Windu had more rectal fortitude he would have refused to allow Anakin to sit on the council anyway. It was basically a given that only Masters could do so. The position went with the seat. So don't give one without the other.
@mcranoxp
@mcranoxp 3 жыл бұрын
@@englishlady9797 you put jedi business before anything else despite having a good relationship with another person mace would of done that as a test a test anakin failed
@admiralmurphy1543
@admiralmurphy1543 3 жыл бұрын
The true answer is much more simple, SLJ knows a mothafocka when he sees one.
@GabeWilliams5
@GabeWilliams5 3 жыл бұрын
These Jumper scenes are the perfect touch
@DasVadderr
@DasVadderr 3 жыл бұрын
He kinda changed his mind though. In the Revenge of the Sith novel he was indeed quite happy when Anakin arrived in Palpis office. He knew very well that Sidious was nowhere near defeated and so he was quite happy that the chosen one appeared.
@rockzs74r
@rockzs74r 3 жыл бұрын
Of course he knew. Mace Windu time traveled from earth in the future thanks to his friend at the Avengers and have watched the original trilogy where Anakin become Darth Vader
@FirebirdPrince
@FirebirdPrince 3 жыл бұрын
Mace was both right and wrong tbh. Inviting in such a young tradegy stricken boy at an inappropriate age than their traditions demanded was a good cause for concern, especially for someone rumored to be a chosen one. But treating him like shit when they can't even tell that one of their own became a prominent Sith and couldn't track down what the hell a dead jedi was doing ordering clones was a massive oversight.
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 3 жыл бұрын
0:03 😂🤣NO YOU DO NOT HAVE A PICTURE OF THE MOVIE JUMPER BEHIND YOU!!!
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone gets it
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech 😂🤣Paladins! Generation Tech is the greatest KZfaq channel!
@bradh3292
@bradh3292 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech i lollld brilliant way to set the mood
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 3 жыл бұрын
This was going to set up another superhero franchise, unfortunately it didn't do very well in the box office. It was supposed that they didn't only hunt jumpers, but anyone who showcased special abilities and would have explored other abilities in the next couple films.
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeathBYDesign666 That woulda been cool. If they would've even hinted at other abilities in the movie. Or maybe they did I can't remember. But I would've watched that prob. Samuel L. Jackson taking on some kind of X-Men? I'm at least in for 2 movies.
@lunaticweeb250
@lunaticweeb250 3 жыл бұрын
What is mind boggling to me is how both sides of the force have a vast swath of powers that every jedi should be aware of yet is ignored. Like Mace is like "yo this mf's shatterpoint is wack" and the council was like "idk man, you actin mad sus"
@leenaleewitch3731
@leenaleewitch3731 3 жыл бұрын
Except Mace pushed quite a lot of good jedis into the dark side so not a big fan of the guy. He couldn't even apologise to Ashoka after she was cleared from her accusation.
@jorgeesteban3064
@jorgeesteban3064 3 жыл бұрын
He was such a dick to everyone, I hate him 😂
@dommambo8970
@dommambo8970 3 жыл бұрын
Alan you are my favourite KZfaqr and thank you for constantly putting out content even with COVID and btw I am a uk fan 🥳
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 3 жыл бұрын
Like u Alan!
@chrisdobson4597
@chrisdobson4597 3 жыл бұрын
Allen* and yes he is the best, i found GT and GF a while back and watch all their videos. Humanity First
@orlandolzr
@orlandolzr 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdobson4597 GF?
@sometimesicryinthebasement5121
@sometimesicryinthebasement5121 3 жыл бұрын
Orlando Lazar GF is generation film
@STARSILVER117
@STARSILVER117 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@sdot5068
@sdot5068 3 жыл бұрын
mace: "I don't trust him" obi-wan: "what is Form VII?" mace: "that is a question for another time"
@bahumatneo
@bahumatneo 3 жыл бұрын
Well, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far away, naboo was under an attack. And I thought me and qui gon gin could talk the federation in to cutting them a little slack. UT their responce, it didn't thrill us, they locked the door and tried to kill us. We escaped from that gas, and met jar jar In boznas. We took a bongo from the scene and we went to fei to see the queen, we all wound up on tattooine. That's where we met this boy.
@betterlatethannever4529
@betterlatethannever4529 3 жыл бұрын
My, my, this here Anakin guy May be Vader someday later, now he's just a small fry And he left his home, and kissed his mommy goodbye Saying soon I'm gonna be a Jedi, soon i'm gonna be a Jedi
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 3 жыл бұрын
- What?? Am I still not a master?? - I double dare you, Anakin. say "what" one more god damn tahm!
@Thecloaker_
@Thecloaker_ 3 жыл бұрын
“Who is this? Wrong answers only.” “Nick fury, Jedi master”
@variousabominations8066
@variousabominations8066 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy I love this channel, thanks for the upload!
@jofox8066
@jofox8066 3 жыл бұрын
Good video - you have a very watchable presentation style!
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin: *Little Boy with Daddy Issues* *Becomes Most Evil Man In The Galaxy* *Redeemed by Son he didn’t know he had until way later in Ep.V* That’s how I’ve always seen Anakin
@selfelevation7
@selfelevation7 3 жыл бұрын
Windu was on Ani's top from the beginning. LMMAAOOO!!!! He said right in ep. 1- "I don't trust him".. That distrust did prove to be valid at the end as we seen. . he def was a beast with form 7 & the shatter point technique. indeed. For years I said he would've killed Sidious if not for Ani's intervention; but I heard Palpi say out his own mouth he was holding back.. sms.. but Mace still gave Sidious serious work. When he couldn't take out Mace right away like Fisto & the others, he saw he had some real work on his hands dealing with Windu. . no doubt... lol. .
@mcranoxp
@mcranoxp 3 жыл бұрын
Windu is still alive
@galre7702
@galre7702 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if I was a sith Master i too would lie about holding back tbh. Can’t look weak you know.
@Aroneazy
@Aroneazy 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT vid! I enjoyed the information overload! The Star Wars universe is the best out there! So much depth!
@zubayeribnakhan7523
@zubayeribnakhan7523 3 жыл бұрын
I have been following your channel since your subscriber, like & comments were few. I enjoy watching your analysis and comparison with our world scenario. The fact I love most is unlike other channels, you merely waste time in unnecessary prolonged introduction and get to the point instantly.
@andrewszigeti2174
@andrewszigeti2174 3 жыл бұрын
The funny part is, had Mace trusted Anakin enough to bring him along for the big confrontation with Palpatine, Anakin would probably not have fallen.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 3 жыл бұрын
Figured maybe he knew even this young Anakin hated sand and he actually liked it..
@EcchiRevenge
@EcchiRevenge 3 жыл бұрын
"My thoughts dwell on YOUR mother."
@Fidelis_Inferno
@Fidelis_Inferno 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu: Yo Anakin acting kinda sus. Mace Windu was ejected...
@eggnogoy7424
@eggnogoy7424 3 жыл бұрын
Haha among us joke 😐😐
@knowledgeseeker4614
@knowledgeseeker4614 3 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu seemed more like the example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@BushPigADV
@BushPigADV 3 жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it! Keep up the good work.
@jeramy77m
@jeramy77m 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great video's Allen!
@acolytesounds
@acolytesounds 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the conversation Mace had with anyone after they found Dooku headless.. like " So Anakin... anything you want to tell us about your battle with Dooku?? Hmmm?"
@1701basil
@1701basil 3 жыл бұрын
So Mace plays ball and is promoted to Jedi council. Jin interpret things differently and is considered a bit of a outcast 🤔🤔
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 3 жыл бұрын
They actually did give Qui gon an opportunity to sit on the council but he refused
@1701basil
@1701basil 3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech the council played too much politics there before order 66
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one had individual principles while the other had a political career and played ball...
@tangofett4065
@tangofett4065 3 жыл бұрын
rick baladeras ya, he turned it down to train Obi Wan. Of course, Mace didn’t want him on the council... cuz he’s the dumbest and worst Jedi ever
@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160
@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160 3 жыл бұрын
Tango Fett He’s literally the worst Jedi. He strictly followed the Jedi Code and treated Anakin like a piece of shit. And he told Ahsoka that “this was actually your great trial” instead of owning up to his mistake like Plo Koon did (Plo’s one of my favorite Jedi because he actually APOLOGIZED to Ahsoka and recognized the mistake the Council made). He also called Ahsoka a “citizen” at the end of the war, told Anakin “if what you’ve told me is true, then you will have gained my trust”. Like, dude. Anakin fought in a lot of battles and rescued countless innocent lives. And only now, you start to trust him? I don’t blame Anakin for chopping your hand off. He also told Padmé that it wasn’t Dooku’s character to be behind the attacks even though when Dooku left the Order, he could’ve potentially fallen to the Dark Side (and he did). I get why they didn’t want to train Anakin as he was “too old” but they didn’t have to ALIENATE him from the rest of the Jedi. Also, Luke was 22 when he trained with Yoda and he turned out fine (not counting the sequel trilogy as I don’t see them as being Canon).
@kevyteky6003
@kevyteky6003 3 жыл бұрын
This goes great with your Light saber force 7... which shows why Mace was so complacent with Anakin! Great video especially if you showed how Mace was aware of Anakin due to Mace having control of the Darkside!
@AJsMillions
@AJsMillions 3 жыл бұрын
"If what you say is true, you will have gained my trust, but for your own good, stay here." People always put Anakin and Mace Windu at odds with each other, but in reality they had a ton of respect for each other.
@curlyzack
@curlyzack 3 жыл бұрын
For such a traditionalist, Windu was really quick to accept using Anakin as a spy.
@curlyzack
@curlyzack 3 жыл бұрын
@arronnov ...so that is justification for breaking the code towards one of your own? All that shows is that Mace was an incredibly weak minded individual when the situation got tense. He couldn't handle the pressure. Anakin should have cut his ass in half.
@tahjsimon9058
@tahjsimon9058 3 жыл бұрын
@@curlyzack No offence but that is a clown argument for arguments sake. Mace Windu is not even as much of a traditionalist as this video tries to imply. He values discipline, and in fact had an attachment to the republic itself. Anakin is the epitome of a flawed jedi, you need to want to be better but Anakin never wanted to forego attachments to individuals, so he was always prime for manipulation, lashing out with emotions and selfish pride.
@curlyzack
@curlyzack 3 жыл бұрын
@@tahjsimon9058.. yo, calling me a clown, via a keyboard, is some chicken 🐔 shit.
@tahjsimon9058
@tahjsimon9058 3 жыл бұрын
@@curlyzack I wasn't calling you a clown, I specifically said clown argument. Everyone says clownish things sometimes. It wasn't meant to be a personal attack, just a bold disagreement. I apologise if I wasn't clear enough.
@grandmasteryoda8919
@grandmasteryoda8919 3 жыл бұрын
Dark side we felt, Skywalker is unstable
@betterlatethannever4529
@betterlatethannever4529 3 жыл бұрын
Question. Why didn't anyone from the order free Anakin's mother? Literally the one thing that had the biggest impact on his turn. When you and the other members met Skywalker, you knew the well being of his mother had some affects on the boy. Why not after accepting him into the order was she not, at the very least, freed? The first sign of Anakin's turn was her death, yet it easily could have been avoided....
@himself8639
@himself8639 3 жыл бұрын
Good job keep the great videos
@Snoogen11
@Snoogen11 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing about shatterpoints makes me want to replay kotor2. always loved listening to Kreia's teachings on nar shadaa.
@brocksamson7164
@brocksamson7164 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on your analysis, I love Mace Windu and Anakin's chemistry. Mace the stern and hard line elder and Anakin the younger and very powerful Jedi but knew his role and respected Windu. Kinda like seeking the approval of a very strict but wise father! 👍 The Lucasfilm characters are always well created unlike the Disney star wars characters.
@scottbraun2457
@scottbraun2457 3 жыл бұрын
Your closing statements are sound. If better guided, then also, given cause to be mutually trusting, would have been on better terms all along, and I suspect we both would see them, leading the charge to arrest, THE SITH LORD, instead of what did happen.
@nightfury6836
@nightfury6836 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video bro!!! ;-)
@badkermit180
@badkermit180 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video 👍
@brandonmoreland4392
@brandonmoreland4392 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine had Anakin been Maces Apprentice instead of Obi-Wans
@ihavenocommonsensebut2008
@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 3 жыл бұрын
Jedi: *not inhabiting planet* Mandalorians: “is for me?”
@HarryScTam
@HarryScTam 3 жыл бұрын
“Mace was just askin for it” Anakin Skywalker
@darstar217
@darstar217 3 жыл бұрын
Love the scene from jumper in the background, lol
@ahuyx
@ahuyx 3 жыл бұрын
ghost mace windu @ yoda: “I told you so”
@rirdan9342
@rirdan9342 3 жыл бұрын
"How Mace Windu Knew NOT to Trust Anakin From Day One" So why did he trust him in ROTS?
@rirdan9342
@rirdan9342 3 жыл бұрын
@Gaius Wyrden Mace completely trusted him saying the chancellor was a Sith, which could have easily been a trap.
@SPIDERVENOM1000
@SPIDERVENOM1000 3 жыл бұрын
@Gaius Wyrden the jedi and Sith often use others for their own ends.
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 3 жыл бұрын
Mace windu was a hypocritical Moron he he'd trusted Anakin then none of that shit in the Chancellor's office would have happend. while Palpatine was an manipulative asswipe he was 100% right in saying that the Jedi are taking over. Mace himself even outright states that when they remove the Chancellor from office that the Jedi would need to take control of the Senate until a new chancellor was elected but let's be real they would have never gave up that power.
@joshuaharewood1089
@joshuaharewood1089 3 жыл бұрын
@Gaius Wyrden They didnt know he was a sith they just didnt trust him. Plus the reason he didnt bring Anakin along was because he could sence his fear and that he was conflicted so it was best to keep him out of it.
@joshuaharewood1089
@joshuaharewood1089 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkean5969 What do you mean? It was his lack of trust for the jedi that caused him to go to the office in the first place. Mace wanted him to give power back to the senate because he didnt trust him it was only if he refused that he would of done it by force. The jedi didnt care about being in charge they didnt just want one person who seemed corrupt to have all that power.
@maxmcintyre5068
@maxmcintyre5068 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome theory and music
@stephaniegeorge6444
@stephaniegeorge6444 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved your analysis 🎉🎊🎉🎊🍻
@TheScorpion0081
@TheScorpion0081 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, if not for that mistrust, that scene at the Palpy's office probably would not have happened... maybe. Hell of a Morton's Fork.
@davidmcleod5133
@davidmcleod5133 3 жыл бұрын
Guess it all depends on if you think Skywalker could have bested the Emperor in a duel. Given how hard of a time Anakin had with Dooku, and how easily Sideous batted around Maul and his brother... I don’t think it would have made a difference. Personally, I think Sideous was toying with Windu, knowing Anakin would come. Had Skywalker been there from the beginning, my bet is Palpatine would have written him off as a loss of an apprentice, and killed them all. Just my thoughts.
@sharp7079
@sharp7079 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmcleod5133 Mace bested old palps and would have ended him if Anakin didn’t intervene.
@galre7702
@galre7702 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmcleod5133 nah, Mace beat Sidious. Sidious is a great duelist but that’s not what makes him powerful. Mace had the complete upper hand when it came to close combat, especially when combined with his Shatterpoint.
@ellamiller2289
@ellamiller2289 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharp7079 No maybe bested him in the lightsaber duel but there's no way Palpatine was going down there the second Anakin turned palatine unloads one him. Windu could not stand up to palps raw power, not to mention he had another lightsaber somewhere given he uses it aginst yoda.
@FurNaxxYT
@FurNaxxYT 3 жыл бұрын
If Windu didn't distrust Anakin, then Anakin wouldn't have to seek acceptance in Palatine
@johnnyfives5416
@johnnyfives5416 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!!! I notice the scene from the jumper movie at the back 0:02
@troyevitt2437
@troyevitt2437 3 жыл бұрын
You are on the Jedi Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master. What? What ain't no system I ever heard of!
@germanicbear7677
@germanicbear7677 3 жыл бұрын
I remember I used to watch generation tech a year ago made a new KZfaq account and re discovered it a few days ago
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 3 жыл бұрын
Return
@jde-jj1lu
@jde-jj1lu 3 жыл бұрын
Use my teachings I beg you
@kittensareawesome2789
@kittensareawesome2789 3 жыл бұрын
Had Windu been more diplomatic with Anakin, he wouldn’t have died. Irony. Edit: I was very much talking about being more diplomatic throughout his entire life as a Jedi, NOT just in that one scene.
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688
@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688 3 жыл бұрын
Why? If Mace Windu continues to not trust Anakin especially after he disobey his order to not come and immediately killed Emperor Palpatine when he saw Anakin, then killed that Selfish Peice of $hit Anakin next. The Greatv Mace Windu would've live and saved the universe. That's the reality.
@MegumiHayashida
@MegumiHayashida 3 жыл бұрын
The JUMPER screencap is full of passion..
@thelikebutton3451
@thelikebutton3451 3 жыл бұрын
That fact you used looper footage is awesome. Hayden must have dreams of Sam Jackson taunting him.
@MrRonald327
@MrRonald327 3 жыл бұрын
Good lesson.
@thefourthchairman4151
@thefourthchairman4151 3 жыл бұрын
What is this supposed to prove? That he got a great instinct with him? He would suspect Palpatine instead if he was really that good
@tietietheprofit
@tietietheprofit 3 жыл бұрын
Twas a nice time, ty.
@freedomman9742
@freedomman9742 3 жыл бұрын
I love the vids👍
@flaggontheplay
@flaggontheplay 3 жыл бұрын
Anakin would have rejected palpatine if the Jedi Order hadn’t turned their backs on Ahsoka.
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm good point
@GraveyardWarden
@GraveyardWarden 3 жыл бұрын
Mace was always my favorite Jedi. I was 10 at the time of E3. Was so sad when he died, not cause of “motherfucka” I didn’t even know that reference by that age. Mace was always just super badass.
@HandlelessTML
@HandlelessTML 3 жыл бұрын
See that still from "Jumper" on the screen in the background? That's probably how Mace was looking at Anakin when he finally joined the force.
@carlosbourne2246
@carlosbourne2246 3 жыл бұрын
The 80s synth Style music you are using in the background what is the name of the band/track? I love that kind of music and excellent episode by the way ........enlightening
@martinshelton9533
@martinshelton9533 3 жыл бұрын
Heck getting Anikins mother of Tatooine would have fixed a great deal of his hear and anger!
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE 3 жыл бұрын
No one owed anakin anything.
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg
@Nyarlathotep_Flagg 3 жыл бұрын
"Knew not to..."? More like: "Why Windu made his own bed."
@ogion539
@ogion539 3 жыл бұрын
"which proobbbably would have led... to him.... not chopping off his arm." lol nice closing statement
@frostiproclamation
@frostiproclamation 3 жыл бұрын
nice bringing in Jumper footage XD
@W-26
@W-26 3 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail 😂
@dommambo8970
@dommambo8970 3 жыл бұрын
Could u please do a what if of what if cooking was bought by the republic from Hundo in the clone wars tv show
@Alex-rh8mr
@Alex-rh8mr 3 жыл бұрын
The clone wars is one of my all time fav shows, I just watched it for the first time this year. I need to get into the more of the lore now, is there comics too I see? Thanks for the interesting little tidbits of info and your theories!
@thomasmacnab480
@thomasmacnab480 3 жыл бұрын
VERY cool video
@typoking
@typoking 3 жыл бұрын
Jedi: The sith are evil! *Jedi kidnap and indoctrinate children to turn them into loyal brainwashed Jedi* Sith: *Pikachu face* "...Bruh.."
@arjunshrivastava6664
@arjunshrivastava6664 3 жыл бұрын
The Jedi do not kidanp children. It is actually the parent's choice.
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 3 жыл бұрын
Mace is the epitome of the decline of the Jedi, he had fear with lead to the rest then again, he used the Dark Side to some extent already.
@Sachistar7591
@Sachistar7591 3 жыл бұрын
This title had me ROLLING
@BushidoBoxing
@BushidoBoxing 3 жыл бұрын
Wow randomly seen this video and clicked .. glad I did found out a lot I didn’t know.
@ochrejokre2029
@ochrejokre2029 3 жыл бұрын
So Windu was from space Australia. Also, can we get a video ranking spymasters?
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