How much do Product Designers Make? | EXPOSING MY SALARY HISTORY

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Han Bang

Han Bang

Күн бұрын

Hiiii ya'll. I thought about this video since late last year when a few salary reports came out for the Design industry but was too chicken shit to make it. Remember that whole schpiel of making 2020 the year that I just 'do the thing'? This is one of the things being done. I think it'll be helpful to understand salaries in the context of everything else that either puts money in your pocket or KEEPS 👏it 👏there👏(i.e. medical coverage).
Tech has the power to do amazing things like lift me out of poverty levels and enabled me to live a life my mom dreamed of when she decided to leave her entire life behind in Vietnam. I do feel privileged to be in the position I am which is why I want to continually give back to the community and industry that has done so much for me.
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@hindyca
@hindyca 4 жыл бұрын
Earned a subscriber when I read your description and you said "Tech has the power to do amazing things like lift me out of poverty levels and enabled me to live a life my mom dreamed of when she decided to leave her entire life behind in Vietnam." Same here, my goal is to give my Vietnamese mom the life she deserves (:
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still striving to 'pay back' my dues as I will never know the sacrifices she's made but I know she's hella proud of everything I have accomplished. Good luck Cindy :)
@annieheart
@annieheart 3 жыл бұрын
You had 999 likes and I'm thrilled to be the one who made it that 1k! ^^ Thank you so much for sharing this video Han. Your transparency is really helpful and valuable, plus well done on your growth! Appreciate you & Wattpad sounds like a dope company to work for!
@sumayah8823
@sumayah8823 3 жыл бұрын
Han I just wanted to say thank you so much for sharing your insights! Very fascinating to hear as someone who’s pivoting into UX/UI in London
@zjwilson14
@zjwilson14 4 жыл бұрын
As a person considering a career change this is abundantly helpful. Thank you SO much for your transparency. Great video!
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped. Wishing you all the best in your next career steps!
@aghataoliveira
@aghataoliveira 3 жыл бұрын
Girl, you are lit! I hope you can fly even higher! So nice to see someone willing to share such rich content. Thanks!
@TheRandomChinwe
@TheRandomChinwe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your transparency and for breaking everything down Han! This was a very helpful video for me!
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@khadijahmalone3034
@khadijahmalone3034 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information!! It was much needed!
@katiehoang4247
@katiehoang4247 4 жыл бұрын
Yes for transparency! Knowledge is power 👩🏻‍💻
@OkayBella_
@OkayBella_ 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for you! 💙
@zakiyah8536
@zakiyah8536 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not Canadian or into tech but I watched this video because it was so well put together and informative!
@LindaAhn
@LindaAhn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Han for sharing this with us. I definitely found it super helpful as I’m also a UX designer in Toronto! Gives me a new perspective on what the salary can come with.
@itsdeepthi3026
@itsdeepthi3026 2 жыл бұрын
Umm hey, but how much do you earn as ux designer, on entry level and now ? Pleaese ans
@onebalddude
@onebalddude 3 жыл бұрын
Product designer of 4 years in one org. Loved this context!
@madebyymira
@madebyymira 4 жыл бұрын
so inspiring han!!
@lukedowney9047
@lukedowney9047 3 жыл бұрын
This was great! very helpful. thank you!
@nicoletran309
@nicoletran309 4 жыл бұрын
This was so informative and well articulated! Transparency is so important in all industries and should be something more people share.
@mosopeadebowale
@mosopeadebowale 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Han
@lestersanchez5534
@lestersanchez5534 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start UX/UI Bootcamp in April here in Miami. Can't wait! Thanks for the info!
@Annie097ful
@Annie097ful 4 жыл бұрын
i also live in miami and im looking for a good bootcamp, would you mind sharing which one you're enrolling?
@jayani9695
@jayani9695 2 жыл бұрын
How’s it going?
@roseanna504
@roseanna504 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the video was very informative. It gives me a better idea of what the industry is like in T.O. where I'm also from. Side note ~ your make-up is 👌
@michelerenee2086
@michelerenee2086 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this!! As a UX Design student currently looking for a job this helps me out so much as I am starting to consider what kind of salary I should be negotiating for.
@iyannamonique2559
@iyannamonique2559 4 жыл бұрын
did you have to go to uni?I am not good at math and I am doing my gen ed.
@VIXEN-nw4yu
@VIXEN-nw4yu 4 жыл бұрын
@@iyannamonique2559 yes
@avrilgarcia8327
@avrilgarcia8327 4 жыл бұрын
@@iyannamonique2559 going to uni is not necessary for UI / UX.
@SillySsn
@SillySsn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! Really appreciate the transparency and how informative you were ☺️ I’m also a product designer based in Toronto so this really helps with understanding the Toronto market.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful Susan!
@Stevenchustudio
@Stevenchustudio 3 жыл бұрын
DEI Diversity Equity Inclusion is quickly becoming one of the top values I'm looking for in company culture! Because we're spending 40+ hrs a week in this environment, it really has an impact on our ability to contribute when we see diverse voices represented, especially at the leadership level.
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I spoke about in a few of my other short videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMx2ddOIxJyYe5s.html It is SO important to see that representation but also realize that *YOU* are also a representative. All the best Steven!
@AJ-rd6ez
@AJ-rd6ez 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing! I subscribed. ☺️
@messagedeleted3526
@messagedeleted3526 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s journey is different. But it’s the hard work that pays off in the end. Hopefully more companies begin to see the value of UX and can employ more of them, as some markets only employ software engineers lol
@christinelee9215
@christinelee9215 4 жыл бұрын
Idk how I came across this video and I’m not interested in becoming a UX designer however I am an HR student interested in getting into compensation and benefits; particularly employer well-being. Hearing you speak about your company’s benefits showed me how important it is to employee satisfaction and attitude towards the company. Great video!
@christinelee9215
@christinelee9215 4 жыл бұрын
Employee*
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
GIRL! The People team is SO important to a job consideration because they are literally responsible for so much of your life outside of your job. Glad you found this helpful and I hope you continue to bring values to the folks at your company!
@MalikSmithEng
@MalikSmithEng 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video!
@aashishbabu4196
@aashishbabu4196 4 жыл бұрын
Right after that 4 second clip. My brain: Mmmhmm I'm listenin'. Thank you so much for sharing this ma'am keep it up.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aashish! Nothing like spilling some salary secrets to get you hooked on watching.
@mywalletsecrets3734
@mywalletsecrets3734 2 жыл бұрын
This video is gold
@hsinchu173
@hsinchu173 4 жыл бұрын
Can't help but have to leave a comment to the people here comparing themselves to Han's salary... Isn't it obvious that every person lives in a different country/city/lifestyle, and works for different industry/company??? So why the heck being bitter (not sure but that's what I smelled...) saying things like " whaaat!? you said 30,000 CAD is low? I made xyz a year"??? As a fellow product designer, I think it's cool that Han shared the real numbers with strangers on KZfaq, even though nowadays people are talking about transparency a lot, but I rarely saw others revealed what they made publicly. Thank you Han, great content!
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment Hsin - I can understand why folks who are getting paid less feel less than positive feelings hearing my salary and frankly even if they’re bitter, I think I’ve achieved my goal in getting folks to reflect on their own potentials and hopefully channeling that energy into something productive. I often hear salaries out of Silicon Valley or SF and think “HOLY SHIT IM MAKING PENNIES” but context ALWAYS trumps a single data point. Here’s to hoping everyone watches actually listens to what I actually said for the rest of the 20min video and not just zoom in on a single dollar figure.
@erkydi
@erkydi 4 жыл бұрын
thx for sharing ur experiences, im almost done wit my ui ux courses, really lookin forward to workin in this industry
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Best of luck - it's going to be challenging but worth it :)
@chelseachinniah5165
@chelseachinniah5165 3 жыл бұрын
this might be a random question but what degree do you need in order to work as a UX/UI/Product designer? Or at least what did you study in university?
@erkydi
@erkydi 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelseachinniah5165 no degree is required to be a product designer, but best to learn from some type of online course or self and practice ui ux for a long time and create a portfolio. As for college degree, maybe human science and psychology would be most related to ux. There is lots of information out on the net
@chelseachinniah5165
@chelseachinniah5165 3 жыл бұрын
@@erkydi thank u for the info. Would a graphic design degree be good to get into UX design? Or is it only good for UI? How about a product designer? Sorry for the many questions
@erkydi
@erkydi 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelseachinniah5165 the term product designer covers both ui and ux, some liked to be called as a product designer, but some cases the role can be more specific like ux research, or ui designer. graphic design can definitely help on the ui side which is great. So if ure interested i would definitely recommend doin some research and find the right courses for your situation
@vineetboyle
@vineetboyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It's damn inspiring. I'm a fellow Designer and planning to move to Toronto from India.
@kayaeki
@kayaeki 4 жыл бұрын
All the best bru! Get those dreams yoo
@IReapZz95
@IReapZz95 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Han thanks for the video! I wanted to get your take on company culture now that everything is done remotely with COVID, how do you feel about it and what would you recommend to increase company culture with remote work. This might just be me, but I really don't get why companies have so many issues with the whole racial/skin color subject. It might because I'm used to working with Latinos and Europeans so I think there is a pretty big mix in both of those regions. That being said, the Latino community tends to be very male-dominated, but my girlfriend and I always push to solve that working together and creating a diverse culture. In our opinion the more diversity you have in a company of any industry, the better environment you can generate and the more competitive you can be across different markets. Congrats on your 1 anniversary!
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Javier 👋I was thinking of making a video about maintaining company culture remotely so keep an eye out for that! I think discrimination is a hard topic for ANYONE to talk about because it forces everyone to take a long deep look inside for prejudices that they carry, either consciously or more often, subconsciously. It's easy to brush aside problems when you don't acknowledge them but once you recognize there's a problem, you need to act. So that's why companies don't like to talk about these issues because it requires them have tough conversations, admit their wrong doings and shift power dynamics. All of these activities require time and energy. Sadly most companies would rather focus time and energy on generating maximum profits than fix systemic issues =\
@alaanasser3897
@alaanasser3897 3 жыл бұрын
I 'm a student in a product design major and i have lost my passion for this field because of the lowest salary of physical products designers but your video renew the passion to me
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you find your passion for design again, it’s a rewarding field and can have good compensation possibility.
@comodesignstudio_la
@comodesignstudio_la 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to collaborate on a UX topic this year. You keep it real. Love it
@lexlife3660
@lexlife3660 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video! Sub from a Vietnamese junior ux designer
@dareemmanuel6079
@dareemmanuel6079 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Laura3235
@Laura3235 3 жыл бұрын
omg I wish I could make $30k/year someday that first job sounds like a dream compared to every job I've had
@navyugsharma2600
@navyugsharma2600 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity what you do? & what are your aspirations?
@kartikdhaduk4024
@kartikdhaduk4024 4 жыл бұрын
That was so INSIGHTFULLL 😀 Thanks a lot for this detailed Video...✌️
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@btsstan4187
@btsstan4187 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, currently studying to go into UX. BTW what camera do you use I love the quality
@HanBang
@HanBang 2 жыл бұрын
Canon G7X mark II :)
@mafmystic03
@mafmystic03 4 жыл бұрын
As a student who’s currently in UX/UI bootcamp, this is very informative.
@Noum77
@Noum77 3 жыл бұрын
What bootcamp is it?
@JanelleSpeaks
@JanelleSpeaks 3 жыл бұрын
hey @marcusvaughn hows it going?
@mafmystic03
@mafmystic03 3 жыл бұрын
@@Noum77 Flatiron School
@mariacarbonara3710
@mariacarbonara3710 3 жыл бұрын
@@mafmystic03 im looking into bootcamps. are you happy that you did it?
@iamax8307
@iamax8307 4 жыл бұрын
Im thinking of going for Industrial design at Humber but im getting a mix vibe of doing UX instead, but down the line can an ID guy get into UX? So im curious about the flexibility of the career path and B.des
@raminzamanifar3855
@raminzamanifar3855 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very informative!
@ohhdanggx94
@ohhdanggx94 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! Thanks :)
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ElijahYOLO
@ElijahYOLO 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Han, thanks so much for being so transparent and for sharing this information. I wanted to confirm if the currency ($) is CAD or USD? P.S: I just realized you said $110,000 in slow motion at the beginning of the video. 😅
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Elijah! I’m based in Toronto so all salaries are expressed in CAD.
@elijahclaude3413
@elijahclaude3413 4 жыл бұрын
Just commenting for the name similarities. Dont mind me.
@hikingtravelmemories
@hikingtravelmemories 4 жыл бұрын
How we should go abt developing portfolio if no work exp or degree in this field ?
@vviviadesign3739
@vviviadesign3739 4 жыл бұрын
I m also a product designer working at a tech company in Silicon Valley. Thanks for sharing your salary in Canada! Hope we can connect! I just started my KZfaq channel sharing design and lifestyle.
@Asiaray_
@Asiaray_ 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered you today and have to say you are helpful and love how you explain things clearly! I was wondering if you can do a video about a ux portfolio. Im a ux researcher and want to improve my online portfolio, would love to see if you have an example or some tips?💜
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Adding it to the backlog of ideas. Thanks for watching Soraya!
@delfidt2707
@delfidt2707 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Very helpful video. Just wanted to know, as a senior in HS, what was your college major?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Marketing Major and Socio-Cultural Anthropology Minor
@andigomez1993
@andigomez1993 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to move from freelance graphic designer to UX designer for over a year now, I’m really close to giving up on this dream. It seems like a lot of Jr designers aren’t being given the chance to interview for a lot of UX design positions. Do you have any advice for someone like myself who has taken courses, has gone to meet up events and networked and has fixed their portfolio and resume but still can’t seem to get a job due to lack of UX experience?
@miss.moon.alyssa
@miss.moon.alyssa 4 жыл бұрын
Someone may need to refer you. DO you have a portfolio? Try to find someone whose already working as a UI/UX and ask if they can refer you, show them your portfolio and if you must offer them an incentive to do so. I think the problem is no one knows who you are. Develop relationships with other writers. Offer to help them with something, find a mentor, join groups of writers online and engage. I may know someone who can help you, reply back, let's chat.
@andigomez1993
@andigomez1993 4 жыл бұрын
Ms. Moon from Brooklyn I have a mentor, and I have gone to events to get my UX portfolio set up and my resume and cover letters edited to best help me stand out. I’ve met a couple of people at events, but most tell me they’re looking for years of experience or they’re all in a similar position as I am. Going to networking events rn with everything going on is impossible. From my conversations with other UX designers, and even hiring managers, I just don’t have the years of experience. I was thinking maybe Im going to start small, get either another internship, or just get a full time graphic design job and move up from there. I think I need industry experience in general. Thank you for your response :)
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's "years of experience" that directly earns you a job. What people are referring to is just 'experience'. The 'years' part ensures you were exposed to a variety of experienceS (plural!). With that reframing, you might ask yourself how do I expose myself to more than one type of experience? There's other ways to do so like through hackathons, volunteer projects, passion projects, collaborations, design challenges, etc.
@andigomez1993
@andigomez1993 4 жыл бұрын
Han Bang Thank you for your response. I agree with your advice, I just completed a volunteer web design project for a nonprofit. It was a wonderful experience, and I hope other job opportunities comes from this.
@AndreLindo
@AndreLindo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! i subscribed and followed you on all your socials! Thanks
@techbaey6206
@techbaey6206 3 жыл бұрын
I'm heading for Product Design and Management MSc[ENG] in the fall and my goal is to be a product/program manager at the end of my master's program. I did Computer Science as my undergrad. Should I consider a different degree to become a Program/Product manager? What advice do you have for me?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, a google search brings up a mechanical engineering program for the title you provided - not sure if this is correct or not? Most successful Product Managers I worked with come from a project management background. Some come from a local product management training program called the APM. The ones that stood out were excellent at communication, prioritization, and were extremely strategic thinkers.
@techbaey6206
@techbaey6206 3 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang I appreciate the feedback but google search brings out hardware design(industrial engineers, product designers). I appreciate you taking the time out to respond to my comment.
@hesterhuang1431
@hesterhuang1431 4 жыл бұрын
any one can just give me a answer? :-) how much!
@conradomedia
@conradomedia 4 жыл бұрын
Unlimited sick days...I am leaving Chicago now!
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Wait till you hear about parental leave or short term disability or mental health breaks in Canada 🥺 we support our citizens in sickness and in health!
@earthandwind820
@earthandwind820 3 жыл бұрын
Fellow Chicagoan here. I was like “wowwww” but then I remembered she was from Toronto 😩
@laxmimanandhar4377
@laxmimanandhar4377 3 жыл бұрын
In my country, UI/UX designers make $3200 A YEAR, working full time ! Really worried what career to pursue. I started UI/UX but don't know how to continue with it! or if I should do it at all :/
@sidney6002
@sidney6002 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should come to states or another country that has a strong tech culture?
@squishyXag
@squishyXag 3 жыл бұрын
would being a ux/ui designer be a good job if i wanted to live in nyc?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
There's a massive design/tech culture there. 'If you can make it New York, you could make it anywhere' :)
@unamistone1906
@unamistone1906 3 жыл бұрын
I wish videos like this cut to 3 min..
@omfgihopethisworks
@omfgihopethisworks 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to do coding/programming as part of your job?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Nope but it helps to know some HTML/CSS for ease of communication with your engineers and developers
@QuiteDecent
@QuiteDecent 3 жыл бұрын
18:11 To save you time, she makes $110,000 🤷🏿‍♂️
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
QuiteDecent no need to go that far in if you just want to hear the dollar figure, I say it at 0:00 ;)
@QuiteDecent
@QuiteDecent 3 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang And if people want to skip all of the old jobs and other such stories, 18:11 is a better starting point. Do you have a "Day in the life" type video uploaded?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
QuiteDecent Hmm that’s a great idea! I’ll time stamps for all the job history so people can jump where ever they feel is relevant 👍🏼👍🏼 I do have a “day in the life” but it’s old and probably not the best representation of what life looks like now. Brain storming a new version of it soon!
@DelToro7
@DelToro7 3 жыл бұрын
Are you working in the Distillery District?! If you are that's really cool! :)
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Nope but it's beautiful there!
@elenaaq996
@elenaaq996 3 жыл бұрын
30.000 CAD SO LOW for a first job??? OMG!! I live in the wrong country... 😂
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
It is definitely on the lower end for life in Toronto considering rent for a 1bd condo here was 50-70% of the month’s salary.
@AbdallahUsama
@AbdallahUsama 2 жыл бұрын
Becoming a Product designer have a different path of being a ux designer ?
@HanBang
@HanBang 2 жыл бұрын
They're kind of different names for the same thing. Slight differences depending on what company you join!
@gabo_xp
@gabo_xp 4 жыл бұрын
30 thousand dollars is a lot, here in Guatemala, I earn 5 thousand dollars per year 😭😭😭😭 3:02
@utkarshsingh6221
@utkarshsingh6221 3 жыл бұрын
but you live in Guatemala ,not Canada and your expenses are less.
@JakeRichardsong
@JakeRichardsong 3 жыл бұрын
Some of that was funny :)
@HanBang
@HanBang 2 жыл бұрын
Which parts Jake?
@kaigaijames
@kaigaijames 4 жыл бұрын
Whaaat!!! that 110k got me shocked and comparing to mine at 3.25k makes me wanna lose my mind..
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
It's all about context James. Do you live in a high cost living city? What is the average salary of someone of your education/experience/industry in the area you live? These are the people you should be directly comparing yourself against - not an internet stranger who lives in a HCOL city with a completely set of experiences. I shared my example so that people know this is possible - again, within the context of where I live and my industry experience. I hope this helps you reframe your thinking but also offer up the hope that you can also achieve a job that makes you happy and pays well :) All the best.
@kaigaijames
@kaigaijames 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang thankyou 😊 i really appreciate you coming out and letting us know.. am just a junior but am doing a great job to upgrade and get more experience and have a better salary..
@manum1819
@manum1819 4 жыл бұрын
Just curious, how much do you spend on food per month? if you buy every meal each day.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to right now? I seldom eat out now that we are all working from home during quarantine.
@unamistone1906
@unamistone1906 3 жыл бұрын
Why make a title product design when you first start yalking about ux?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Because when I started I was a UX designer whereas I’ve transitioned into a product designer now.
@unamistone1906
@unamistone1906 3 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang so whats the average pay for a pd designer?
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
@@unamistone1906 In what city? industry? with how many years of experience? With what type of training? With what kind of benefits? All of these things help with shaping a more informed range or else I can throw a $ range that wouldn't be helpful at all.
@BeanieNinjay0
@BeanieNinjay0 3 жыл бұрын
30k a year starting? Even as entry level that's a bit rough....did they give you a meal stipend along with that at least? lmao
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, they did give us a transportation stipend. Also just to be clear, I wasn’t hired as a UX designer but a IT generalist - it’s just the job where I got my UX start!
@LanaLeon
@LanaLeon 3 жыл бұрын
30,000 dollars a year. Okay...
@Kevin-hp2zx
@Kevin-hp2zx 2 жыл бұрын
since when is UX design the same product design
@HanBang
@HanBang 2 жыл бұрын
It's used interchangeably but in traditional settings, product design is more referring to industrial design.
@kemallo4590
@kemallo4590 3 жыл бұрын
is product design industrial design or is it the internet products
@HanBang
@HanBang 2 жыл бұрын
phone app design
@andrejakoprivnik9892
@andrejakoprivnik9892 4 жыл бұрын
Waaa, the 30,000 got my attention. Which meant getting roughly 2500 per month....and she said that was LOW... I make 700€ per month in Slovenia as a waitress .... so roughly 8,500 per year ... 5 days of paid vacation time, full healthcare, from Mon to Sun 10h per day .... Even designers here don't get that much, at least 1500 per month .... I'm jelous, she sad that 30,000 was low....
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andreja, I love to hear international perspectives as it is very humbling and appreciate your examples. My definition of a 'low salary' is in context of Toronto standards where cost of living is VERY high - 1 bedroom condos go for as high as $2500 CAD monthly. This is not including other expenses such as food, transportation, entertainment, childcare, etc. I was privileged at the time to have very low expenses living at home thus was able to take the job. There are folks with more financial obligations who may not have been able to take the same opportunity. I recognize and acknowledge this privilege. My goal to share these details is not to make anyone feel jealous but rather inspired and motivate whoever's watching to put that energy into something productive. All the best.
@andrejakoprivnik9892
@andrejakoprivnik9892 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang Yeah that is true, your living expenses are higher than ours. Rent for a one-bedroom (which is literary one room and a bathroom) here goes from 200 to 500 € per month, depends on where you live and also not including all other expenses and these apartments are not new and modern ( old and moldy). I'm a single mom, and due to the virus I lost my job so my income relies on POD sites, luckily I have my own small town-house that I inherited, so no rent for me. But still, 2500 per month is a nice number. The expences here are lower but so are the salaries. I don't know what vacation is cause I haven't been on one since 2009... From all the expenses, by the end of the month, I'm left with 100€ in debt on my bank account and I live extremely low cost ( cheaper groceries, looking at prices all the time for everything). That's why I started doing POD to get some extra income, mostly because they don't demand a degree of any kind. I finished high school, I can edit, design, draw, do vectors, but good luck finding a job here without the paper of DEGREE, having experience or knowledge doesn't count. The companies don't even look at your portfolio if you didn't go to some sort of design school. So I basically work online just to get by. If I wanted to enter a company as a trainee, they are not obligated to pay you. So you basically work for free in order to get a paper saying you gained experiences in the hopes of getting hired eventually. And I have a small and old car because our public transport is non-existing since I live outside the big city, and the companies always ask if you have a driver's license or a car and if you don't they automatically dump your application. And also we don't get promotions... unless you go back to school and get a higher education then they raise your salary according to your educational level, and not all companies do that. My friend went back to school but the company gave him an ultimatum, either he accepts the salary he already had or they'll have to fire him because they can't afford to pay him, even though the company had money to pay him the rase. We have a pay-grade system that sucks, it doesn't depend on the level of your expertise, experience on the field, how long you've been working, but on your educational level. That's why many of my friends started to work for themselves or online as freelancers.
@manum1819
@manum1819 4 жыл бұрын
What?? you were getting $30,000? wow, I'm from India and I make 3200 CAD a year.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
It's all about context - $30k in a high cost of living city like Toronto means you can afford very little.
@r3dp1ll
@r3dp1ll 4 жыл бұрын
work for foreign companies / people. You speak english it's a big advantage
@yoyoz333
@yoyoz333 4 жыл бұрын
As a graphic designer turned UX designer, I dont feel that UXers deserve to earn double a graphic designer, and I feel like I worked twice as hard when a Graphic Designer.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
What do you define as 'working harder'? In my experience, UX Designers are responsible for a lot more of the production lifecycle and EVEN MORE as a product designer where you need to think holistically from a business/product/tech perspective and not just from design perspective like traditional graphic designers do. Curious to hear your experience.
@yoyoz333
@yoyoz333 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang Having more on my plate and needing to know a lot more things as a graphic designer then a UXer. UX positions rarely need to know branding, logo design, art direction, photoshop retouching skills, publication design, packaging, web skills like coding and being able to use different types of CRM and EDM platforms, not to mention video editing and motion design. On the one hand I can earn more, but I cant help but feel a little bitter that I never felt that appreciated or compensated for what I needed to know as a Graphic Designer.
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
I think what you just described was about 4 different jobs (graphic designer, video editor, content manager, developer). Perhaps there was a miscommunication about the job description or you took on way too much under the role of ‘graphic design’ but if you weren’t paid equivalently to cover that many different jobs, then I totally get your frustration. The beauty of life is that you live and you learn so hopefully you realize now that you were not fairly compensated before and how to avoid that in the future. Best of luck!
@yoyoz333
@yoyoz333 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanBang Lots of companies want someone who can do a bit of everything, and then there's the job ads that "are looking for the unicorn."
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I’ve seen a lot of companies that require designers to be involved in a lot of stages of product lifecycle. Here’s hoping they compensate fairly!
@roter13
@roter13 4 жыл бұрын
why am I watching this at 3AM? lolz
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
Because you're curious about the UX industry and learning about salary expectations!
@a.2461
@a.2461 4 жыл бұрын
me seeing this comment at 2:56AM 🙈🧚🏽‍♀️🧚🏽‍♀️✨✨✨
@HanBang
@HanBang 4 жыл бұрын
@@a.2461 nothing wrong with a midnight KZfaq binge
@ilygoi
@ilygoi 4 жыл бұрын
3:10am here :)
@itaintaproblem
@itaintaproblem 3 жыл бұрын
cool. all the least important things when looking for a job.
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to disregard this video if you plan on working for free. Watch this one instead: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eqyIaLemvLHXYn0.html
@valeriez3916
@valeriez3916 3 жыл бұрын
$100,000 a year is like poverty in Toronto. That’s not even $5000 a month after tax. Is this some type of joke. If you’re not making $1 million a year, then you’re obviously not doing something right!
@HanBang
@HanBang 3 жыл бұрын
This video has nothing to do with what other Torontonians make or what a livable wage looks like in the city. It is simply me sharing my experience and salary history as a UX/Product Designer.
@chan-p
@chan-p Жыл бұрын
There are not many jobs that will pay out $1 million salary. If they do, it will most likely be a C-level executive and most of their compensation will be in the form of stocks. If you want to compare salaries, check out Levels fyi
@FitnessClub24sprzet
@FitnessClub24sprzet 3 жыл бұрын
You have a wide face
@jenniferly516
@jenniferly516 3 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary comment
@purefunguy
@purefunguy 2 жыл бұрын
So.. what. She looks fine
@janeezeokoye-es2qx
@janeezeokoye-es2qx Жыл бұрын
She is beautiful ❤️
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