How Much Do Software Developers Earn? My Salary History (React)

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4 жыл бұрын

A complete run down of every salary i've had as a React Developer. Nothing held back, just real numbers.
I’ve been a front end software developer for three years now, having worked 4 different roles from a software intern all the way through to an intermediate React Developer. Some of the most common and most taboo topics of working in tech is - how much do software engineers make, what's a good salary for a front end developer? A lot of the FANG employees are quite forward with this information, but it seems like everyone in the tier below are not.
I share my complete salary history as a front end software developer all the way from my first job in programming to my last full time role. The majority of my career so far has been in React, and i'd be classified as an intermediate to senior React developer.
Companies like Buffer - have a complete salary spreadsheet of every employee at the company ranging from the CEO to content marketer to software engineer. You can see exactly what everyone makes. This kind of transparency is hugely beneficial when negotiating salaries - both from an employers perspective as well as a potential candidates.
My history has been mainly in front end web technologies, focussing on React. I started off working in New Zealand before moving to Amsterdam but also getting offers from companies in Stockholm, Munich, and London.
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@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

You should always fight for what you're worth. Hoping this kind of transparency will help someone negotiate a better pay or prompt some discussions within your own network to ensure you're being paid fairly. I’ve been informed by many that I was underpaid in Amsterdam by around 10-15k which was... eye opening. If this has helped at all, would love to know.

@gc7644 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm trying to get my first react/node focused job (I've been a programmer for 3 years mainly dealing with C#). What do you use to find your jobs?

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Mainly Linkedin tbh and word of mouth. Would definitely recommend going to any local meetups though as there seem to be a tonne of quality employers going to those.

@abdelghafourrakhma3334 4 жыл бұрын

Nice vid mate! And very helpful content for all the expats out there, keep it up 👍

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Abdel!!

@charlimarieTV 4 жыл бұрын

Super interesting Matt! Thanks for sharing!

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Most welcome! Looking forward to your video now :D

@mateusvahl5072 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the transparency!

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@murgraydj5812 3 жыл бұрын

Really helpful video! Thank you for sharing!

@muctar_s 3 жыл бұрын

This is a really valuable video! I am currently a college student living in the US, but I'm thinking about potentially moving outside of the US. This video gave some good insight as to what to expect in these different cities. Thank you!

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

Really happy that helped!

@bilal731 2 жыл бұрын

these are different countries but yeah

@dyaniatfullsail 3 жыл бұрын

Great content, thanks for this. I appreciate the honesty and found it funny your last name is Kander (candor) great play on words there.

@OPT1206 3 жыл бұрын

What would you say the salary difference is approximately for front end vs back end in Europe? Are they mostly looking for full stack these days?

@QuyNguyen-zj8xr 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing . Very fun!

@matsydoodles 2 жыл бұрын

You move roles quite regularly. Do you feel this comes up as an issue in interviews?

@mistersir3185 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt can you please tell us what website did you use to search for jobs? I am looking for a front end job myself. Please help me out. Thanks

@ZeryusXD 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this video. Subbed!

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mojjammil 3 жыл бұрын

Was interesting hearing your insight. I'm located in Finland and just roughly 1,5 years working as software developer. Wanted to verify whether I'm getting paid fairly or not and most videos were by those located in US so this was a cool one to watch. Thanks.

@daimhinaubrey3194 2 жыл бұрын

hey! are you Finnish or have you moved there for work? i’m planning to relocate there once i’m a developer so was wondering how easy/hard that is

@mojjammil 2 жыл бұрын

@@daimhinaubrey3194 I moved here initially as a student and later started working but it was a career switch for me since I came for business Master's originally. If you have a decent portfolio as a fresher and give every opportunity you come across a shot, it's not easy but not impossible - same as anywhere else I assume. If you're already experienced then it's very easy as I know someone who landed his job in less than couple of months while he came for Bachelor's studies.

@daimhinaubrey3194 2 жыл бұрын

@@mojjammil thanks for your response! currently i have absolutely nothing but hopefully in a year i can land myself an internship ✨

@mojjammil 2 жыл бұрын

@@and_still. back then I was a CTO of a startup. Now working as SW Engineer at one of the largest Finnish tech corps.

@mojjammil 2 жыл бұрын

@@and_still. currently doing cloud native software development in main job but on the side work on web software projects as well.

@lucasmarquesnascimento3892 3 жыл бұрын

Good video man! I'm working as a full stack dev for a year and a half in Brazil and I've always wanted to live abroad. In your opinion How much of experiencie is enough to get a job in New Zealand? It has a lot of offers there or is it kinda of saturated? How to have an Idea of those things from here?

@emanuel8082 Жыл бұрын

Boa sorte irmão. Eu tô estudando programação também e meu sonho é morar em outro país

@adanmael1064 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video matt!

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adan!

@calebmills1014 3 жыл бұрын

Paid time off is generally different per company in the US. Not all companies give you only 14 days off. Some offer much more and some companies offer "unlimited paid time off" which means, take time off when you need it, make sure you are getting your work done or make sure it's covered while you are away.

@paritoshprabhudesai 2 жыл бұрын

@Caleb Mills which are the companies that provide unlimited paid time off?

@liam1902 2 жыл бұрын

@@paritoshprabhudesai mostly startups. Public companies will give you a limited number that commonly range from 2-4 weeks per year. They also may allow you to roll over some unused PTO days into the next year.

@gamingwithasif6563 Жыл бұрын

So what was the procedure of the interview,like can we expect dsa question for a frontend developer job?I am waiting for ur reply ❤️

@terjemah_alquran 4 жыл бұрын

I Really need these information and your explanations help me a lot. Greeting from Indonesia. I'm also react developer btw. Thanks for sharing

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Really happy that helped! Merry Christmas and greetings from New Zealand!

@terjemah_alquran 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander auto subscribe hahaha

@bharathreddy1845 3 жыл бұрын

Hey brother. Even I want to start my career as a react developer. Please say me some tips.!!

@terjemah_alquran 3 жыл бұрын

@@bharathreddy1845 i start as junior engineer and learn react as much as i can, implement the new trend in all of office projects, and now i manage my own company with react technology as frontend, php as backend and Kotlin as android mobile.

@bharathreddy1845 3 жыл бұрын

@@terjemah_alquran is there a more demand on react developer jobs these days?

@andrewluey1050 4 жыл бұрын

As someone looking to move to Europe next year, this was super helpful insight!

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Feel free to hit me up anytime Andrew!

@AB-fp8xo 3 жыл бұрын

Moving to Europe as a software developer is crazy. You can earn 5x doing the same job in US... Communist mentality ruined the Europe.

@sangwoohan1177 2 жыл бұрын

From the US? Bruh, why???

@ggwell2595 2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-fp8xo yeah right, im currently looking into learning web development from 0, and here in Europe the salary from anything related to tech is shit😂

@georgebogiatzoglou6044 3 жыл бұрын

thanks man really helpful

@LuciGaming15 Жыл бұрын

I want to become a front end web developer. Till now I have learned HTML, CSS and Bootstrap. Going to learn Tailwind CSS, JS and React. How can i get a job as a front end web developer being a fresher?

@solidstatejake 3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks a lot dude. I think including dates would be really useful to put the salary in economic context.

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

This was all in 2018 if that helps :)

@clarencevega7526 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info, I am a second year college student and i want to take the front end career

@MisterWealth 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who is in the process of learning kotlin with the goal of ultimately making apps for restaurants. I have the basics down, the hardest for me is implementing the basics into the real world. I can fix small issues here and there by googling not a huge problem. But as to making like a fully functioning app, even just a little swipe can be a pain in the butt to figure out and stackoverflow is one of the least helpful websites I've come across. People are very very unhelpful and quite rude. Can anyone recommend a book I can read to start making apps that are presentable in my first interview?

@Renato_Bernardo 3 жыл бұрын

I´m portuguese! It´s nice to see how much Portugal is loved by other countries.

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

Portugal was the best! I went to Lisbon before heading back to NZ and loved it so much. Almost moved there before I decided to come back home!

@jaystock9202 3 жыл бұрын

Word. American that lived in Galicia for a spell. If I ever go back, it will be to visit Portugal

@idreeskhan2686 3 жыл бұрын

Cristiano Ronaldo has already done 90% of the job♥️

@kiyooswrld7420 3 жыл бұрын

Cr7 of course xD

@SanduTheMountainDweller 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander Portuguese dev here! Loved to hear your take on the matter! I came to portugal when I was 10, I'm originally from Moldova and I can only say good things about the portuguese people overall. I'd say our biggest problem (apart from corruption cof cof LOL) is that programming work is really based primarily in Lisbon but Porto as well (I live and work in Lisbon) and housing in Lisbon is EXPENSIVE, so unless you're down for 40 min - 1 hour commute or more, to get a house somewhat further away from the center of lisbon then you'll be dropping tons of money on it, I personally take 70-90 minutes to get to the office so my house isn't that expensive, though with covid we're full remote for over a year now and hopefully we stay that way, I get to enjoy average housing price while not having to do any commute

@bronko625 4 жыл бұрын

Mint vid bro

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro :D

@IReapZz95 3 жыл бұрын

you should add some writing in your videos to keep things a little bit more organized and clear for people. This was a lot of information and numbers layed out pretty quickly

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

There’s an article linked in the description of you wanted to read through some numbers but absolutely fair point - some on screen numbers would have been a lot more helpful. I’ll take the time do add them in future videos :-)

@NazmulAlom 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I want to go Italy. Could you tell me please salary range for Android development & Web development.

@bobbyj731 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that this wasn't another "I made 200k USD in under 3 years experience". Being a US dev I started at 42k USD and it took 14 years to break 150k USD. Most US senior devs I would put between 110k and 135k USD. FAANG devs account for a very small portion of the overall total devs out there.

@MattKander Жыл бұрын

I mean, I wish it was one of those videos 😂

@trumpisgod2535 Жыл бұрын

In the UK you can’t make much money in software engineering. US is where you’ll make a lot of money.

@kipa_chu Жыл бұрын

Cool but I can't do front end even if I'm stuck on a island and ship captain wants me to build a website for him

@blipojones2114 4 жыл бұрын

I actually once declined a job which was a huge jump in salary, 30%, but i felt it was just gona be insane hours and delivery deadlines. maybe it was doable but something felt off. maybe im just not confident enough yet.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

I’d much rather a lower salary job with a solidified work life balance than a 30% increase and terrible work life balance. I very much value the time to work on my own projects.

@yashsolanki069 3 жыл бұрын

Can i get internship with basic knowledge of JavaScript, html and css

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any negotiation tip? Would you recommend negotiating your salary for a grad role or should you just accept it? If so then how should you go about negotiating?

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Some companies have extremely strict salary brackets so it depends on where your offer is coming from. Do your research on the company, and it's always good to have multiple offers at the same time if you can manage it. It's always good to negotiate where you can, even for a grad. I negotiated my first grad role and know many others who've done the same. Check out "Haseeb Qureshi airbnb salary negotiation" and read through his story of how he negotiated a 250k salary from airbnb. Really useful.

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander So is it best not to negotiate if you don't have multiple? Cuz you don't want to seem unappreciative of the role right. Also if you don't have much coding experience, is it best not to try unless you can prove to them why you deserve a higher salary? Or are there other means of getting a hgiher salary? And is it best to do it over email or in person? Thanks for the suggestion, will check it out!

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

I would always negotiate even if I didn’t have another offer lined up. It’s incredibly difficult to increase your salary once you’re in the role, so it’s best to fight for a higher base when you start off. Find out what other grads are getting, compare the industries and size of the company, and read up on negotiating. That will help you a lot. Also - consider the experience you’re getting. That can be worth so much more than an extra 10k. I know someone who gave up a role at Rocketworks (working on satellites and super cool stuff) to come work at my health company as an intern. That job could have easily opened him up to Google, Facebook etc but he chose the money (I think it was only a couple k difference). So, while you need to get paid what you’re worth, consider also what your long game is.

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander Great advice thank you!

@islamicprince8165 3 жыл бұрын

1:49

@hananii3485 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty decent salary for an internship indeed. I had one for $18/hr and another for $21ish/hr and the latter was considered 'fair' in Auckland.

@hananii3485 4 жыл бұрын

in 2018&2019

@stevea3685 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I’m 16 atm and an planning to become a software engineer, just wondering will math methods be a requirement?

@francomidence4210 4 жыл бұрын

Math isn't required for web development. It's useful if you plan on doing machine learning

@ky-ik3cz 4 жыл бұрын

most universities require math method AND recommend specialist mathematics. If you major in computer science (almost all software engineers have a degree in this) then you will definitely do discrete mathematics. Honestly check out the university courses, because most are heavily math based. Becoming a programmer or dev might be better as they have less math, however, there are software engineering positions that don’t actual implement much math work. it really depends on the company

@kamlenmang8363 Жыл бұрын

Is html Java script css part of Computer science

@TakiTarik 3 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention thats lots of company's i think give food stamps which is around 10 dollars a day and lots of company's give cars to their employees in Europe the cars are usually Luxury cars like bmw audi mercedes. a phone a card for filling up your gass. These are benefits you get in Belgium atleast and in germany depends on the company

@ggwell2595 2 жыл бұрын

Really?

@TakiTarik 2 жыл бұрын

@@ggwell2595 yup

@frostydog860 4 жыл бұрын

In the U.S., the paid leave is closer to 21-30 days. It's typically 3 weeks vacation, federal holidays, and 10 or so sick days.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Is this for tech companies or just a general rule? That's not too bad in that case. Most companies i've seen in europe are 25-30 with unlimited sick days.

@frostydog860 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander Good question. My entire career has been spent in the tech industry, so I don't know what the other professional fields are like. But the economics are pretty similar for any career that's in demand--employers offering perks and vacation to compete with the other employers.

@CoryJaccino 3 жыл бұрын

In the U.S., it depends on experience, what you are able to negotiate, and length of time with the company. Less than one year of experience or less than one year with the company = 0 days paid leave until after the first year when you get 10 business days. Many employers let you accrue it and even show it on your paychecks but using it is a different story. Most people have to wait the full year. After 2-3 years, you’ll get 2-3 weeks of paid leave to around double the perks you were offered when originally signing on. I forgot to mention that federal holidays, otherwise known as bank holidays, are typically not given to non-bank and non-federal employees. After about five years with a company you might be able to get a month off of work if you are highly valuable. Outside of this, using any of these vacation days in a large bulk of time is difficult. More than a two-week vacation is unheard of unless it’s a sabbatical month you’ve earned from the 5+ years you’ve been there. Not everyone does this or allows this. Most people in the US are afraid to take more than a week vacation at a time. And... you will be contacted on vacation if one of your direct reports needs strategic direction. The majority of the perks are being able to work from home or come in late or leave early or have some kind of flexibility for whatever reason. High end computer equipment or company-sponsored conferences, flights, hotels, etc. I remember getting 3-5 sick days a year but, unlike vacation days, those are not paid out if you quit or are let go. So, it should all make sense now why they would rather give you a flexible schedule than give you vacation days. They’ll never be on the hook for any kind of additional payout. I don’t have any experience with stock compensation but bonuses are rarely more than 5% to 10% of our salary, depending on the seniority level.

@Maulik3089 3 жыл бұрын

Studied + worked in US for 3 years, paid holidays are very less. Ranging from 12-15 days annually. Of course,National holidays are extra

@AB-fp8xo 3 жыл бұрын

US salaries are huge. A friend of me moved to US and made 10x more in the bay area as he earned in Germany before...

@nikhillimbachiya7094 4 жыл бұрын

Can i go UK from India as i am having 6 years of experience of Software development in .NET Development and Front End

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Depends on your visa situation and what's available for India. I had offers from the UK with 3 years of React experience and i know others who have moved with less.

@drakecoleman9364 3 жыл бұрын

30 days PTO. shit dude. I'd never leave my job if they had that

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

What is considered as a good range salary for a developer who has just graduated, does anyone know? Asking for NZ and australia markets. Can’t seem to find many data points on this specific job. I have used glassdoor mainly and there is usually only 1-2 people who have declared their salary.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Depends entirely on where you are (salaries outside of major cities are not as high). From what i've found, Australia pays more than New Zealand. Auckland pays the most out of any other city (although wellington is similar). For grads in NZ, typically between 55-70 dependent on company. A year or two you can get between 70 and 90. Three years plus you have the chance to get between 90-110 and then seniors will be earning 110-140. Leadership positions 140-180. I'm not sure about australian salaries and how that staggers but it's definitely more.

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander Hey thanks for replying. Yeh mostly asking for Auckland in NZ. I also heard Australia pays a lot more, do you know if there a big difference between Melbourne and Sydney?

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Sydney pays more than Melbourne- the cost of living if higher in Sydney however. I’m trying to move over to Melbourne at the moment so have been doing a lot of research between the two cities

@kidkwlify 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander yes same, I was doing that too! I was keen for Sydney earlier because I like the place, and lots of tech companies there so thought there would be more opportunities. But the cost of living is quite a bit higher. But there are still plenty of good jobs in Melbourne, so I think if you find a good job there, then it's probably a better place to work in because you get paid slightly less maybe but living costs are also lower, so might be worth it.

@bluecollartech-io 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. This was super helpful. I'm a CrossFit trainer and health coach. I've been thinking really hard about getting into programming as a second career. I literally have no experience. I would love to network with any programmers and exchange health coaching and training for a programming mentor. If this interests any of you hit me up. Again, thank you for this content.

@lashondamiller2982 3 жыл бұрын

Watch the NeNinja, he's great too

@heyman3731 2 жыл бұрын

@healthy coder how it's going for you . it's been a year or so . Is it possible for you to update about your progress ? , it would be very helpful to know that

@Sport-hm5rf 3 жыл бұрын

How much web Developer earn In New Zealand ?

@josh-bd6dj 3 жыл бұрын

U deserve 100k or more subscribers

@marcoprins4880 3 жыл бұрын

I wish you'd mentioned how many years of experience you had when receiving each offer

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

I have four years experience now - all offers were under three :-)

@marcoprins4880 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander Ok that's pretty good actually! Where are you currently working?

@pikusarker1359 4 жыл бұрын

Sir how much phd graduates in computer science make in usa? Nice video.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate I’ve got no idea!

@karthikeyane284 4 жыл бұрын

What are the programming languages u know???

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

JavaScript is my main language, but I’ve done a little bit of programming in Java, Swift, C# and MIPS before. I’m currently focussed on learning swift for iOS development

@vrba3487 4 жыл бұрын

Eyeglasses frame model? Thanks

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Asking the real questions - these are Lucas de stael frames. Made of leather. They have some really cool ones made of quartz, wood and all sorts but can be seriously expensive. I got these from a glasses store I did some freelance work for.

@davide4607 3 жыл бұрын

Who cares about having 2 extra weeks off when you're only paid half? In the US the salaries are so much higher you could just take every other year off and still be making the same money. 2 extra weeks of PTO isn't even remotely worth the salary difference.

@J90JAM 3 жыл бұрын

Where's the guy that tells me the key points before I watch the video anyway? 😑

@786Peacelover 4 жыл бұрын

Can you please share your Munich experience. Curious to know.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

What would you like to know?

@786Peacelover 4 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander About your Company environment.. as a KIWI did you like the German way of working ? In General what do you say about German salary and tax model :) ? What companies would you recommend as a React developer in Germany. Greetings from Munich. :)

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

@@786Peacelover So, I got an offer from a German company but I didn't actually take them up on it. I chose Amsterdam instead of Munich so unfortunately I can't talk to the working culture and their ways of working unfortunately. Taxes though were definitely super high comparatively. The company I interviewed with were pretty cool and chill, was a small team and the people seemed pretty great. There was also no tax incentive for going to germany - in the netherlands you have the 30% tax ruling which gives you some tax relief too.

@vice_santos 4 жыл бұрын

I really want to become a computer engineer but im only 14... i got to wait A long time but ill get there.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

You can start now! Heaps of excellent tutorials online, you could be a pro by the time you finish high school :D

@vice_santos 4 жыл бұрын

Matt Kander hey! Thanks👌🏾

@danicaliforniaman 4 жыл бұрын

Ayyy me too

@rosegolds9644 4 жыл бұрын

You will ❤️ Good luck

@mehdismr5384 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@bharathreddy1845 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt. I completed my bachelors in Civil engineering. But I want to start my career as a front end developer. Will it be ok?

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

If you put in the work - absolutely. It doesn't matter what background you're from, if you put in the work to become a developer, you'll get there. You have an advantage as you've already done a bunch of math and logic based papers as part of engineering. Get started and good luck :)

@bharathreddy1845 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander is there a more demand on react developer jobs these days?

@laughmeout7751 3 жыл бұрын

Best part is not the salary, it's the fact u can change companies yearly 😁

@liamjohnson3247 3 жыл бұрын

I make 165k

@DotnetistEnterprise 3 жыл бұрын

Hi guys, any beginners here? request a video from me I will create a video and explaination for you. you will learn fast by making me your master in c# haha

@ahsanmohammed1 4 жыл бұрын

How did you manage your language barrier issues.

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly that was quite difficult- it was a very multi cultural environment where English was not the first language of many of my colleagues. I really enjoyed that aspect, but you did have to be aware that there are a lot of cultural differences in the tonality and manner that people communicate, what could be considered neutral in one, could be abrasive and confrontational in another. You just have to be patient, make an effort to communicate and be aware of those cultural differences. It’s a joint effort from both sides to meet in the middle. Especially when you’re dealing with high level technical topics, where understanding each other is rather crucial.

@luckyreddy3146 2 жыл бұрын

I have a dout

@Ali-mc4le 4 жыл бұрын

500 a day in London for a tech lead is very low. Try double..

@MattKander 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think I said 500 for a tech lead? For most intermediate to senior front ends you’d be between 400-650 and a tech lead would, as you say be around 800-1200 dependent on your area of expertise

@nazariit171 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattKander how much for a Junior dev though?

@pyroghost11 3 жыл бұрын

Mate, I've been a junior full-stack developer for almost a year now, I don't have degree. I'm self-taught and I also finished a coding bootcamp last year. Here in eastern europe (right in the center, purposefully not naming my country) I get less than a 1000 euros a month. I know a bit of React, worked in Angular, Node.js, Postgresql, MongoDB, Docker, Typescript, JS, Python, used various libraries in it, fiddled around with GraphQL too and I'm constantly taking online courses and improving myself. I hope I'll be able to overcome this shitty salary very soon. I'd be happy to hear your opinion, what I should do or where I should look for better roles! My goal is to earn at least 2000 Euros net a month, which is considered to be pretty decent in my country and only senior devs get it here, if they do...

@bakkecske91 3 жыл бұрын

leave eastern europe,

@pyroghost11 3 жыл бұрын

@@bakkecske91 Is that a solution, you think? Where do you live?

@bakkecske91 3 жыл бұрын

@@pyroghost11 slovakia, and want to leave

@bakkecske91 3 жыл бұрын

@@pyroghost11 mainly here you work for foreign clients from the west, mainly banking and other financial institutes, not big industry...so limited opportunities and salaries are low

@pyroghost11 3 жыл бұрын

@@bakkecske91 Not surprised tbh... Én is magyar vagyok...

@DiabolicalDean 4 жыл бұрын

Wow Europe sure sounds nice. You should move there or something...

@Omega70 3 жыл бұрын

Wait your from NZ?

@MattKander 3 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@hakametal 2 жыл бұрын

500GBP a day from contracting??? Jesus Christ.

@salsichalivre5401 2 жыл бұрын

mango people live like just mango companies exist.

@christianhabermann6527 3 жыл бұрын

"100 Grand on the extreme low end". Here in Europe we get $15-60K per year as a senior, depending on the country. It's insane

@denikhalikov5178 3 жыл бұрын

You can get high FANG salaries in London/Zurich

@ahsanmohammed1 4 жыл бұрын

Lots of vacation time is of no use if you don’t have the money to spend. You end up siting at home watching KZfaq.

@dejibimbola 3 жыл бұрын

This life is not balanced

@tito24867 3 жыл бұрын

He must be lying! I have two degree in software engineer and do not have a job

@AB-fp8xo 3 жыл бұрын

Europe is the worst place to be a software engineer. Very low salaries comparing to an average salary. Better move to either US or to a low budget country (and work remotely).

@TheCarmacon 3 жыл бұрын

LOL not true. Look at Germany or UK salaries. Even for embedded software engineers it is easy to make 70 k€ right after graduation. If you have a background that's relevant for the automotive industry, e.g. sensor fusion or robotics, then 100 k€ with 2 years experience are well within reach. I know a startup that's currently looking for an engineer with some experience with image processing of LIDAR data and inference on FPGAs - salary (!) is 120-150 k€ (that company is not located in an expensive region so that salary is incredible). Software developers working in the financial or health sector are also paid that well, especially consultants. But those companies are barely known outside their industry and only post new job offers quite locally because they don't want to deal with papers when hiring employees from overseas. There are many high paying, rather small companies in Germany that make very specific products or just components, but pay incredibly well because they're the only company in the world that does this specific thing. And these companies are not accessible to foreigners. But as soon as you're looking at web/game/UI/cloud dev, yes, the salaries drop significantly (with large global companies being the excpeption). But Europe just isn't a web/cloud market, never has been and probably never will be. We do HW development primarily, and add SW to make it run. And that's were the money is.

@adadado7676 2 жыл бұрын

I agree in my country monthly is 1000-2000 dollars or 12000-24000 dollars a year