There is no way this conversation could be done justice in 20mins. Consider making it into different installments

I really feel its been a long time coming.

Did you guys see the reaction to the kameza money 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wow thank you so much ladies for showing up together ❤ I have enjoyed the show

Glad u guys are back on set💃💃

Nice to see you coming back together in person ❤️with love from 🇿🇦

Pumla’s view is very rich. Both partners roles are very essential. Otherwise even a man would ask to be paid for his role as a provider. It’s just essential for the provider to take into consideration the needs of their partner also considering providing money for things that can make her life easier and happier. Otherwise monetizing roles at home is a disaster.

Ladies, love watching your show. All opinions should be valued and respected even though people may differ on the way they think about certain matters.

I hv really loved the show thxs ladies 🙏🏾

I hear you Manuella, attaching value doesn't have to always be monetary.

Long time no seee aaaaawww I feel like hugging you all you look beautiful ladies thanks for the show

Pumla and Angie made it clear. The moment we choose to attach family sacrifice to monetary terms, we will have mess in our dear families.

I'm with Pumla and Angie! I've stayed home before for a year or so while he worked and for me it felt like just lifting my share of the relationship weight just as he does by bringing in money. I never once felt like paying me would mean he valued my input. But it sure helped that he always thanked me and included me in all our financial decisions even if I was bringing in zero income. So good to see you all back on set! 😍

Hii Angie ,happy to see you again😍

You never disappoint. The topic needs more time

House wife sipping my tea enjoying my babies nap time with absolutely zero opinion #paidhousewife

I love you guys Keep it up

Thanks alot One day talk about simblings or people who do anything for deceased loved family members kids. It's important to love these kids like our own biological kids. I have sacrificed 12 years raising my late sisters kids being home fully. My big sister providing financial in everything. Am proud to see them all grown up and now am starting to build my own life the youngest being 13 years. Its time to build my future now and enjoy seeing them be the best version. This is my worry if we will have many people out here willing to raise our kids or parents when we a deceased too. Great presentation ladies

I think women who sacrifise to stay at home should be compensated….. like Pumla said it shouldn’t be payment per say but husbands shd be human enough to know that these ladies of theirs also have personal needs n therefore every once in a while or more often should be concerned about how they survive n be able to do something about it.

Thanks for the show. Have been a full time house wife for two years now without no helper but staying with my 3 daughters 7yrs, 3yrs and 5months. My husband gets me all I need even before asking and even when you ask he provides but I also think that it should be upon him to get me whatever he can but not attaching value to the work I do coz I will end up being underpaid and he has also helped to get appliances that ease my work like a washing machine, microwave, electric kettle gas cooker, inverter and many more

even when i have help, i managing the household. i need a management allowance

Today I have just enjoyed and hoping that future hubby has got revelation from this🤪

I think Pumula u have explained the point so well

He earns300k, -Man buys food, woman cooks -Man pays tuition,woman takes child to school -man pays hospital bill woman takes child to hospital -man pays bride price woman 🤷 etc so to me it's always 50 50 if the man is responsible. So to me it should be love, respect, acknowledgement of my support in any way he feels he can afford.

My view is - stay home mums need a certain amount of money every month as appreciation, keeping all other forms of appreciation constant. Every woman needs some money on her. She has her family that looks up to her for some help. That's justification enough.

I love Angie's accent.... I had to be real here......I love these ladies

I love ure sense of humor pumula

Then Angie 👏👏👏👏truth in what you're saying!

"you gave birth who paid you?"😂😂😂😂

Ladies I love you so much for sure u have hit the point.

Great points Pumla and Angie🥰🥰

What an interesting Conversation! Should housewives be paid? Payment is a form of compensation and recognising value. The preson that pays has a right to expect a certain level(quality or output) of service delivery. Should expectations be not met, then they have a right to get another wife or woman who can do a better job. Keeping all factors constant, a man and a woman come together in love to start and a raise a family and live happily ever. This means that wife and husband should support each other to achieve the above. The money that is made is just a tool to help the couple achieve the above goals. If society starts monitizing family matters, then we are bound to loose the most important unit of society ie family. What is important is that by the time a man and woman get married, they know what they are going in to. And while in marriage, they make a conscious decision to Seek God and obey his leading. The few bible verses I have read in the bible that talk about Marriage concetrate more on respect, submission and love. I don't see paying wives or husbands any where.... Bottom line: housewives or househusbands should not be paid.

First of all you ladies are all glowing💕 Pumla your point is rich

Some honesty is needed by the way.......pumla has spoken out the mind of many women

Where do you place the dowry?

Pumula u had da best points, where ever money is brought in,in such a situation that is natural energy. Yu ar creating a mess.

No money can buy love

I have been a homemaker(housewife) for 5 years. His money is my money. We share accounts and there is no limit to who takes what money although we do have budgets for important things in our home. I literally don’t have to explain why i withdrew a certain amount of money but we do tell each-other out of respect and also showing we both are not misusing the money. I think every marriage has it’s own dynamic that works for it. People underestimate the work of homemakers, it’s literally 24 hrs. Homemakers need money to feel secure.

Yes yes Pumla i agree with you

Pause... Okay.. but I like Pumlas ka glow up.. anhaa let's continue

I agree with Pumla, Angie and Manuel because you are in a marriage together. Everything should be planned and sacrifice for the better of marriage or a home.

Yes they should, we do alot, married for 14 yrs en have been paid from day one , every 28th of very month.

Pumla wange😂😂😂mine pumla🤣🤣🤣,kyoka chic you got a point baby away from our funny side

As a housewife in the US, trust me, EVERYTHING is on me so that the hubby can work. I’ve leaned to include myself in the budget but he too is in it. It’s a win win for both is us

Very good in Unison 😆 Kameza Kameza

Pretty pretty Rosette i just like u....all ladies a thumps up

Equal say in monetary terms can be almost impossible - especially in african culture were my mom or his will call asking for help. If a couple knows nti even whn its burrial or massive kwanjula pledges in december!! My wife / stay home husband receives gratuity of $$$ every month! I think cd ease planning. Thn being mu mid month and am like njagala sente za baby shower! Tht will sound too unrealistic 😂

No payment for me. All you do is for your own. It's your home. Why should you be paid for cleaning your own children, feeding your own children, cleaning your bedroom. It's your home, your responsibility. Should men also claim for payment attached to all they do for their families then?

Hope habimbisomwe case in Uganda discussed this... It just hasn't taken enforcement thats why its possible to attain 70/30 shares in favor of a woman

Love you ladies,me l think women should provide charity to their families but when they base on money homes will scatter away.

You cannot quantify but in reality, women love money and they should be given as they need especially if they are in the position of house wife! The woman is likely to become resentful, worthlessa, angry & that's the reality! So attach both monetary and emotional value to your house wife!!!

I've been a housewife 4 7yrs n i think it shouldn't be a case of payment but devotion.. I'm just k coz I'm the one who handles our family's finances.

More love and faithfulness from my spouse would be like payment for me coz this is a full package

Pumla and Angie you are the best

My two cents is that even those with help, need to be paid because, if you have had helpers they need supervision or nothing gets done. I had a male colleague who shared that he fussed at his wife for not minding their young child given that he had hired helpers. Two days later he asked her to get back into the kitchen because he could not eat the food prepared Now off topic, I want hair like Rachael Mwine

every housewife should be paid

OK, let's dance! Give a housewife a $1,000 a month for her job. Now, she should have to pay her husband at least half that for housing. Giving him back $100 a week for food sounds reasonable. Another $75 a month should cover utilities. Then there is cable and internet, clothes and the optional vehicle usage. Will call it an even $200; that should cover fuel, insurance, and maintenance. The presence of a man is both security and therapeutic; those are 2 of his part-time jobs. Together we'll round it down to $500 a month. Weekends, holidays, and vacations are extra. If we paid you $52,000 a year to be a house wife, it looks like at best you'll owe $175 a month! You might need to get a second job just to be able to afford being a housewife.

Now for us single mothers ;what should we say😄 your the mother; your the father😂 who will attach value to what you do!! yourself;,….your double self mother at the same time father; but thanks for the show ladies; always on point

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Now your forcing us men to be renting women for seasonal relationship 😂

We need men with an opposing view on this panel.

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Pumla👏👏👏 gwe asinga!

Actually what manuella is saying..very few men do.. Just acknowledge that your wife is offering a service...

Yye nga what value/measure are we using to compute this compensation? Eg Sex with the husband is how much? Anti we are being paid for all 'work' ? 🤣🤣

I agree with pumla and Angie there is alot of value and compensation that should be realized by the men but in this generation men bewunza they take things for granted I think that's why this Kenyan minister sumed it up into salary coz men won't still understand value things they think it's women duties.

Pumla, I totally agree with you, guys, realistically so if you are paid to look after your home, do you also pay your husband for looking after his family? You as the wife inusove??

i think they shouldn't be paid as such rather their work should be recorganised and appriciated

I swear married ppl batulimba nyooooo... 😆🤣😆🤣😆

Darling Angie there r many women w/o house help; they do the cooking, the keep the kids till evening, they do laundry, they clean the house... and those hair, fuel things u r saying, "they r not getting them properly" like Rosette said

Hell No! housewive🙄🤦🏿‍♀️ that boring life 🏃🏿‍♀️🏃🏿‍♀️...talking to the walls while he is having a time of his life out there ??? whether he will pay you or not its not a life to admire .

If a housewife gets paid, by her husband, does she still have a claim on the property at separation? If she is paid, she is nothing but a maid, and a maid has no claim on the family property. I believe paying a woman a salary is demeaning their part in a marriage.

Kameza money🤣🤣🤣🤣

Angie makes a very sound point

But of course wise men do it indirectly,most of my friends today are married women,but you hear them say,Julie omwami yampadeyo ka sente at the end of his month.As a wise husband ,you don't need to be taught this for Christ's sake.Twaakowa abasajja abatalowooza Kati bwosanga atasabiriza nga nze! Ontama butami coz some of us we come from families were okusabiriza kibi,

I totally disagree!!!

First to view. But that aside. We in America work full time as well as look after the family. Because of covid, I work from home, take care of a preschooler, kindergartener and toddler. It’s takes a lot.

I really agree with Angie and Pumula how do u want to be paid to take care of ur children so how are u different from ur maid then to there other way round how different are you from the prostitute really we just need to be appropriated not paid coz it’s unplayable

Thank you ladies for the debate, Should a house wife be paid ? This is not a problem in some continents, the question should be ( should an African house wife be paid for her work) absolutely 100% YES, in fact it should be a law and the employer to the husband should be fined if the housewife does not get paid, to get the answer to this question we need to find out why is the Kenyan government even considering this?

Pay me oooooooooo

I surely go for what pumla is saying.i don't support it at all he pays bride price,he pays salary for you to stay home is it motherhood?let it no be a policy but a discussion btn the two 🤷

Angie👌

Money is a basic language for women😂😂😂😂

I want a house wife 🙋🏽‍♀️🙋🏽‍♀️🙋🏽‍♀️

Nze njagala sente.. attach value in monetary terms

Banage pumula eeeh your beautiful eeeeeh hoo otherwise all you guys look good

Haaa you need to really talk to men !!! Because some men are really stingy 😢😢😢 actually as they get married one of you should counsel

Pumla🔥🥰

I would not call it payment but u shd give something at da end of da month for my upkeep so dat l dont hv to keep asking for every little thg frm u everytym , do u know dat some men put kameza money only and dat z enough and they don't think abt da person dey leave to take care of everything.Talk with yo hubby bt dont bring it as payment, me dat z wat l did & now he knows every month he has to leave somethg for me apart frm kameza & according to his income

I have a ask...?so who pays ..the husband or the government??are they going to put them on a pay roll😆😆?? Mukisusa banange 😆😆😆 So the man pays all the bills on top of paying his wife who willingly accepted to get married and make a family with him??kisuse !!!🙌🙌🙅🙅🙆

I like how Pamla brought it out... When u say payment, its tricky cz shld the husband also be paid for working and providing??? As couple if one is working a formal setting where there is a salary, then the one being paid shld know that its just common decency to have the wife's needs. I think this goes back to agreeing on the marriage finances and the welfare of both partners according to diff households and their level of finances.

I think house wives should be paid,,

But who becomes a house husband 🥴🥴🥴

Pumla I'm with you on this 👌🏾

where did we go wrong with this generation. soon men will pay subscription fee for conjugal rights.

Madam Nabachwa I grew with u

I love Angie's accent.... I had to be real here......I love these ladies

I have a ask...?so who pays ..the husband or the government??are they going to put them on a pay roll😆😆?? Mukisusa banange 😆😆😆 So the man pays all the bills on top of paying his wife who willingly accepted to get married and make a family with him??kisuse !!!🙌🙌🙅🙅🙆