How Much To Charge For Drywall

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@johnhubbard6262
@johnhubbard6262 11 күн бұрын
Running my Mouth before I watch the vid and see your pricing :) Drywall patches are a real skill and should pay like one. They also are one of the easiest to upsell. Drywall patches for Property Managers are a whole different model than homeowners as they will want you to take it through paint limiting upsell a bit. Property Manager: Patches up to 2 sq', Touch up paint is on site, or they spec it so you don't have to waste time matching and only have one trip. (usually apartments) - Even shooting texture with 5min hot mud in my Binks or bug sprayer I am looking at 2 x hours for setup, breakdown, clean up, and running my mouth which I am prone to do. Flat Rate $250 with the caveat that it will blend better than any of the other patches they have all over the unit, but that they will still see it as they know where it was. Bonus, they are almost never going to see or care about it, easy physical work, no stress. Homeowners: Patches up to 2 sq' $125 Special, Patch, Tape, Texture, Prime but No paint. (You are almost never going to actually have to do this, if you do, its an easy < 1 hour) Client Convo kind of goes like this - We will do our best to blend your patch to the existing drywall, but since you know where it is located you will be able to spot it like this spot, the one in the hallway, those on the ceiling (You know, all the ones that jump out at you whenever you walk a unit). This does two things, they now see the existing bad spots (more on that later), and it sets up the upsell. A usual response is can't you make it disappear, my response is yes, the way we do that is with a blank canvas. So with this wall (up to a 100 square feet We would perform the repair then skim coat the entire wall giving us a fresh canvas to texture evenly. For us this is a full half day so we charge $XXX (Starting out my number was $550, but went to $750 real quick) Remember pointing out those other repairs, and specifying no Paint. Any homeowner with pride in home ownership will those old repairs are going to start grating on them, I would say better than half the time you are going to get called back to take care of them as well. As far as Paint, many home owners think they can paint or feel there is no real value in it. If asked about paint (I hate to paint) I give them two options, Myself I let them know I am a custom painter and only use top shelf materials and a scope of work that exceeds that of average track home paint and the price reflects it, but that I am happy to give them a referral to my painter that performs solid but standard work. Bonus, he loves the referrals, does quality work so I don't get call backs, and if I didn't get something quite right his painters will touch it up without a thought as matching finish is kind of easy for a skilled painter. We rolled this as a Service both in-house on existing business, and as a stand alone Patch Repair Business. Rough Numbers One tech, one cheap van/truck. Gross $7500 week, OH $1875, Wages $2000 (based on 40 hours), Marketing/Headaches $625. Gross profit 3k before taxes, or 10-15k a month with a turn key operation Good Drywall Patch technicians appreciate the $50 average per hour worked, but you pay flat rate so they have the incentive to work towards more projects as opposed to more hours, the right one and the only time you see them is when they bring you invoices/pymts and you pay them. QUESTION: How the hell do you keep the hot mud out of that Grizzley Adams Beard?
@johnhubbard6262
@johnhubbard6262 11 күн бұрын
Ahhhh, after watching I like your break down as well - Everything is at least $100 an hour, and scales. I just hate complicated price books, so I scale to 1/2 day or full day rates, so $750 to $1500 to give me less upfront selling details and after sale invoice pricing justification. Its just you paid for a 1/2 or full day plus materials. But looking at it we probably get to the same numbers in the end.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 11 күн бұрын
I really appreciate that insanely thorough comment. There's to much there to respond to all of it but I think it's 💯. As far as the beard, i frequently come home with it full of paint, mud, sawdust, or all of the above. Thanks!
@ldwahl6678
@ldwahl6678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration. I am an older guy, 68, many years remodel, paint, and excellent with drywall repair. Walked from it about a year ago, yet now considering jumping back in.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman Жыл бұрын
If you do decide to jump back in, good luck! Probably don't need any luck. Your generation is famous for being reliable and following through and that's really all that seems to be necessary to succeed here.
@mayconfraga4867
@mayconfraga4867 11 ай бұрын
Man thank you very much for this info.. And I say thank Gog for you because I am tired of videos that goes around and around and around and at the end they don't give the info that we really need and this is why we need guys like you here. I am the same. have a great day.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 11 ай бұрын
That's one of the biggest reasons I started this channel. I looked on KZfaq for the kind of information that I'm now giving out when I first started and I wasn't able to find anyone who could just look me in the eye and tell me exactly how the industry works and what I need to do to get started and succeed. It seem like every answer on every handyman KZfaq channel, if a question was asked, the answer was it depends. It's true, the answer does depend, but that doesn't mean there aren't answers to give.
@user-ng2sf1gt7u
@user-ng2sf1gt7u 11 ай бұрын
Thank you soooo much for breaking it down so clearly! All the best to you:)
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 11 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@jorgeduran8853
@jorgeduran8853 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, that speaks highly of you. It's good to see people like you.🤙🙏
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 9 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@numinousmud4
@numinousmud4 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the time to lay all this out there. Inspiring and definitely lets me know how low ive been charging for good work
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 5 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@outlaw1-3
@outlaw1-3 11 ай бұрын
Awesome videos. You answer questions i didnt even know I had. Keep up the good work!
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 11 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@savedsinner412
@savedsinner412 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video thanks for the advice. I’m also a drywall finisher out here in Arizona so it’s pretty cool to know that any device that you give is also applicable to me because of the area that we live in. Most of my clients live in Cave Creek or the west side like Goodyear and Surpise. My goal is to one day be able to wean off the current company that I work for (I’m a drywall finisher or Taper as we like to call ourselves)and be able to work full-time for myself 🙏🏽🤞🏽this video motivated me that much more brother !
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 7 ай бұрын
That's awesome! Good luck!
@Planittravel
@Planittravel 6 ай бұрын
Great advice! Thanks for the info on estimates for dry wall. I have had window cleaning business for about 15 years now and I am transitioning into a handy man during the winter months just to try something new. I just tackled some drywall repair work, and I under charged a little, which is fine since I’m still new to it and not super confident with matching the wall but I can already see that it’ll be a great skill to perfect as I’ve received several requests for drywall repairs in the first few weeks as a handy man. I don’t mind undercharging a little since I feel like I’m still getting paid to learn a new skill😅
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with that! Good luck!
@SolasChristus
@SolasChristus 8 ай бұрын
When I hung drywall in Florida we used Densglass for porch ceilings. It was a pain to install but had a 30 year warranty. It wasn't cheap and it was a premium to install as well.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 8 ай бұрын
I'll look into that.
@omcasanova
@omcasanova Жыл бұрын
I’ve been on my own doing handyman work for a little over a year now, I’ve come across quite a bit of drywall patch repairs, texturing is my biggest hurdle, and I have yet to use hot mud which would always require coming back the next day for the compound to fully cure for paint. I will certainly take your advice and do some practice pieces. Thanks as always for sharing.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman Жыл бұрын
I've found that 5 minute mud can be painted 15 or 20 minutes after application. You just have to stick around brushing out bubbles for 5 minutes and then a second coat 15 minutes after that.
@MGMG007
@MGMG007 9 ай бұрын
Let me give you some game, buy a heat gun and use that to accelerate the dry time if its not drying fast enough for you, it’ll help a lot
@tonychavez3679
@tonychavez3679 8 ай бұрын
5 minutes mud, you would need to be really fast. I like 60 minutes mud, in California we call it hot mud. I put a skim coat with Fix all , and apply a skim coat with 60 minute mud, get a broad knife and knock down any lines. Apply another coat last coat. I use sponge and water to sand with no mess. Apply texure. Paint same day. 12 by 12 2 hrs to finsh. A fist size one hr
@Ukjon72
@Ukjon72 Жыл бұрын
Loving the channel and your outlook on the business. I have a handyman business in the Atlanta area and would kill for textured walls! Much easier than the dead flat we have lol.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're liking the channel. You're right, sometimes it's just as hard to match dead flat!
@user27278
@user27278 Жыл бұрын
What are you saying? All my patches are dead flat then I texture
@corcoransullivan1562
@corcoransullivan1562 7 ай бұрын
In my area the vast majority of the walls are a smooth surface, 3 coats sanded. I’ve worked in Oregon before though which is all texture. Texture seems pretty tricky
@lestalkmorebasss
@lestalkmorebasss 2 ай бұрын
Around here in MS they just are not paying that high……. But yeah learn to use quickset and patching becomes routine
@tylerseaman3225
@tylerseaman3225 11 ай бұрын
Hey brother, always enjoy your videos and advice. I do a TON of drywall down here in Destin/Santa Rosa Beach, Florida area. In this video I hear you say you get the entire job done in one day. Even if it’s taping an entire outside porch ceiling. Just wondering what your secret to getting it all taped, mudded, sanded, then maybe even add more. Then to texture and paint all in one day. Do you hang around all day and use some 5 or 20 minute mud? I typically go and do another job while that one is drying(putting a fan on it while I’m gone). Then come back. But to get everything done and to look good, one day seems to be pushing it, if I’m wanting it to look perfect. I honestly don’t want any job I ever do not to look as good as it possibly can in my eyes. Figured I would ask you what your tips and tricks are to knocking it all out in one day. Thank you buddy and I appreciate your advice.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 10 ай бұрын
-It's rarely an entire ceiling, more often 2 to 6 individual joint lines that I tape. -Yes, I use hot mud and hang around all day if necessary. -I definitely never try to make it look perfect unless it's clear that the home requires perfection. -I use the Pareto Principle oftentimes, or something like it. Scenario #1 - $2,000 - Lets say I won't settle for less than perfection on my job, so I fix the joints with a high quality joint compound that isn't a hot mud (Including pulling the almost delaminated tape from joints that looked good but were still not great. Then I skim the entire ceiling from corner to corner. Then I apply fresh texture from corner to corner. Then I give it a light sanding with a disc. Then I apply one, maybe two coats of PVA primer. Then I apply one or maybe two coats of paint. I lay drop cloth on the porch and tape everything else. I put two full days of work into it and then I charge appropriately based on the value of my labor. The homeowner and property manager are going to be angry (or just never approve the estimate to begin with) because this is a rental and the goal with a rental is for it to be in serviceable condition to rent, not for it to be perfect. Now I'm likely never getting jobs from this property manager again because they need to provide their homeowners with a level of service and value that fits the home and the budget. Scenario #2 - I pull the tape that is delaminated until it stops coming out of the joint. I apply new tape with hot mud. No drop cloths because I don't make a mess, but I do keep a wet rag for the occasional slip up. I let the hot mud cure for a little while and then I skim around the joints very lightly just to make certain that there are no cracks or depressions. I wait for that to set for a little while and then I use hot mud to apply a texture that isn't a perfect match but that also doesn't stand out and would never be noticed by anyone other than a professional drywall finisher looking for it. Finally I apply one coat of exterior flat paint corner to corner because I'm still picky about matching paint not quite matching. This takes me about a half day, full day at worst, but usually a half day. I charge somewhere in the ballpark of $400-$800 depending on the hours and the scope of the damage. The property manager and homeowner still feel like they could have paid someone else less for a similar quality, and they are correct, but they have learned by experience that cheap guys don't show up half the time and royally screw up some percentage of jobs. The moral of the story, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Some people are looking for a Lexus and some people are looking for a Honda. Both are valid business models, but nobody who buys a Honda complains that the seats aren't leather. They just want the thing to run and get them from point A to point B.
@strokerace4765
@strokerace4765 4 ай бұрын
Good video, I’m in the deck business myself. I called around to check other people’s prices and they don’t seem to have consistent prices per square feet.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 4 ай бұрын
Most of the trades are pretty difficult to standardize. There is such a wide variety of possible routes to any given finished product.
@strokerace4765
@strokerace4765 4 ай бұрын
@@bulletproofhandyman I call as a potential client asking for a square foot price and they always want to send out a salesman!
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 4 ай бұрын
I hate that
@chichichi232
@chichichi232 9 ай бұрын
Just started watching ur vids, good info. How would you charge for multiple holes a few inches apart? Ex. Tv wall mount bracket broke off and there’s 4 holes. Thanks
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 9 ай бұрын
Without saying the job, I could only guess that I would probably be charging in the ballpark of something between 300 and 600
@user-hz1ib4zq1j
@user-hz1ib4zq1j 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that informative video , best one I have seen by far … I did have one question , You said for ceiling drywall that got water damage and it’s bowed in , you charge around 650 for a 3’x3’ area … Would that price change for a 6’x6’ area , Would I be doubling the 650 or keep it the same ?
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 3 ай бұрын
That pricing is relatively old. 650 would be on the low end and a thousand would be on the high end for 3x3. I'm not sure what I would charge for a 6x6, it would depend on multiple factors. In the end what you need to do is figure out how long it's going to take you and make sure you're not making less than $100 an hour or whatever rate you've chosen for yourself.
@timothyfechter5977
@timothyfechter5977 Жыл бұрын
Try to get a feel for the price of your area what is the rental price for your average house or apartment and what is the average ish income ? Thank you
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the average income but in my area the cheapest thing you can rent is still going to be about $800 a month and the average rental. Assuming it's a three bedroom, two bath spec home in a subdivision is going to be something in the ballpark of 1200 to 1500 per month.
@InfamousKiddXD
@InfamousKiddXD 20 күн бұрын
Question, currently Working for a company in Dallas installing cabinets and remodeling I specialize in tape bed texture paint And some carpentry the company is selling soon and I don’t know if the new owners will keep us or let us go so I am looking for options. Been doing the handyman side hustle for three weeks now and I’ve made some pretty good money popped up as a Contractor 1099. Coincidentally it’s a handyman job a guy who wants his company and hires out handyman and sends them out I think he’s doing what you’re doing with. That being said he offered me a job, but he offered to pay me less than where I’m getting right now. I’m just wondering if it’s a good call considering is willing to teach me things I don’t know flooring restroom, renovations, etc. however, I have a wife and a baby and I need to provide for them and taking a pay cut right now is not something I think would be wise considering we’re paying debt off
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 20 күн бұрын
That's a hard call to make. The best long-term solution is for you to own your own business, but if you have a family to provide for then You have to do what you have to do.
@InfamousKiddXD
@InfamousKiddXD 20 күн бұрын
@@bulletproofhandyman yeah thank you I noticed half of what I typed was typos I apologize for not being clear thanks for your honest response
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 20 күн бұрын
No worries, I figured you were just using speech to text like I often do. Half the time it doesn't get my words right either.
@InfamousKiddXD
@InfamousKiddXD 20 күн бұрын
@@bulletproofhandyman yeah , I just landed a job doing tape bed texture gonna take me about 3-4 days small patches and cracks all for $1,300 Saw your video of giving Low income people a break to gain more trust and now she wants me to install a door for her that she bought too not sure Howmuch to charge for the door install I figured around 250 it’s not a main door Gotta put the frame in and everything Additional
@FreedomInc
@FreedomInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Im in west Tennessee between Nashville and Memphis. Im seeing far less of tge smaller jobs and im now having to take on larger ones. It kind of is what it is . I think inflation is starting to really affect the less fortunate areas.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman Жыл бұрын
Very real possibility of that. Luckily I seem to be cemented in as the move out guy and those are my favorites.
@thebackwoodsmechanic5029
@thebackwoodsmechanic5029 10 ай бұрын
People are also learning diy because we are lacking skilled labor as a nation
@lincolnepps7279
@lincolnepps7279 29 күн бұрын
I work in Clarksville Tn and I charge $300 minimum for a small patch. No painting included
@FreedomInc
@FreedomInc 29 күн бұрын
@@lincolnepps7279 Clarksville is far different than where I live. Its becoming more modern there with slot of outsiders with money moving in. I live in benton county. Theres alot of crackhead willing to work for nothing. And alot of people willing to pay less for trash work then pay for good work.
@lincolnepps7279
@lincolnepps7279 29 күн бұрын
I live in Henry county by the lake and make the drive every day
@delmar539
@delmar539 4 ай бұрын
When you say 150 for up to Quarter sized holes, is that per hole? If there are 2 dents and 2 Nickle sized holes are you charging 600? Just trying to make sure i am understanding what you are saying.
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 4 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I made this video, so I'm not sure exactly what I said. However I can patch, texture, and paint 4 quarter sized holes in about the same amount of time so I would likely still charge the same $150 for 4 quarter sized holes, or maybe just an extra $10 or $20 for the extra few minutes.
@delmar539
@delmar539 4 ай бұрын
@@bulletproofhandyman thank you for clearing that up for me
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@SmithIss
@SmithIss 8 ай бұрын
How much extra do you charge to do a paint match ?
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 8 ай бұрын
Today is a flat $125 per color if I have to remove a piece of drywall for it, materials included.
@SmithIss
@SmithIss 7 ай бұрын
@@bulletproofhandyman Does that $125 include the painting or just getting the paint match ?
@mikeflores371
@mikeflores371 4 ай бұрын
Any advice on pricing for cracks in drywall? Corner beads cracking??
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 4 ай бұрын
Only my usual advice which is to estimate how many hours you expect it to take, add a buffer, and then make sure you're not charging less than $100 per hour if you have the experience to do it efficiently.
@boston_segway_tours
@boston_segway_tours 8 ай бұрын
You’re the man
@bulletproofhandyman
@bulletproofhandyman 8 ай бұрын
Awwww thanks
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