Kpop idols stopped singing live on stage. This is a problem worse than nepotism.

It's not just the connections that helps them but the money their rich parents can spend on dancing classes, singing classes and musical instrument classes that are so very expensive and also time consuming that a normal person could not have time for if they had to work or study hard to support themselves and their families. It's not just about what you know but who you know.

If the so called nepo babies have the talent and will to succeed then they should be given a chance, nothing can stop them. You've got to have more than your famous connections to make it in the industry and be a star

Imagine your family create a music company and a kpop group just because u want become a idol this is crazy ☠️

it's not the problem they're rich, the problem is that they're easily taking someone's place, someone who can be ten times more talented, more interesting more unique than them yet they're aren't lucky enough to have any excess to the industry because they don't have connections

I’m fine with it as long as they are talented. Using connections is pretty standard in the business world but if you don’t have any talent such as singing, dancing or stage presence you are going to have a tough time. Especially in the K-pop industry where you can become scrutinized for anything.

Anton is talented. Very talented. Jin of BTS have gone through the hardship just like the other 6 members. I know that he asked his father once if his father can give them money to buy food. Jin said that was the only time he asked his father for help. As for Bahyihyi, she didn't get help from Kai. Kai told her that he won't help her. She has to show people her talent. She just asked him for advice after that. He gave her advice on how to look at the camera when she dances and sing.

People saying "its ok to be a nepo baby if you are talented" are kind of missing the point. There is plenty of talented, and maybe waaay more talented people than these nepo babies, that wont get a chance bcs they dont have the name or the money. Thats the whole poing of why nepotism is wrong. I cant believe people are excusing it just bcs those are their favs lol

I mean if they're really talented, it doesn't really matter all that much. After all the industry is filled with "visuals" who can't sing or dance, nepotism is not the biggest issue in the industry

Idgaf Anton is really talented and deserves to be in RIIZE. He is gifted in a lot of ways. He's a witty guy and he is hella savage! The perfect combination.

buying success while pulling down people trying to do it genuinely is so sad (this is my opinion no need to vent at me in the replies)

Even if Jin comes from a rich family, he didn't use that to get into the group. It was a manager, he saw Jin at the bus stop and was amazed by his visual and asked him if he was interested in becoming an idol. He didn't knew dancing or singing, he has worked very very hard to become an idol and I am so proud of him 💜 Love you Jin 💜

In India we middle class people are told by our parents that unless you are a rich person your children cannot imagine of doing something in the entertainment industry that made me realize that It is very true .. money can really make any dream of yours ... that's why my father never admitted me in a dance class though I am very talented in it ..

The problem with this nepo babies wich people couldn't understand is it's not only about them being talentless some times we can see they are talented but there are so many talented people out there but they don't get to debut or recognition from public cos they are too poor to promote them self just like kendal jenner in model industry

Companies/Labels always say Nepo Baby "passed" the audition.... like suuuuuuuuuure.

Nepotism is a tough one to tackle because there will be some that legitimately have the talent and work ethic but there will be just as many if not more that get there solely based on money and connections. Especially now that, let's be real, there are a lot of "singers" that can't sing well because music production is such that a good producer and engineer can make anyone sound amazing, not to mention if you're rish and well connected, you'll have access to the best teachers, best producers, best equipment and even going into how looks are considered so important for idols, nepo babies can afford surgeries, cosmetics, designer clothes and styling, etc so they just immediately come in with such a huge advantage over the others that it's easy to see how it's problematic when combined with the requirements expected of idols. It's tough, there's no clear answer because you can't say that nonone from anrich background can be an idol and only a few are noticeably not as good as the others where you could claim they clearly only made it because of something besides their talent. And on the flip side, just objectively having a nepo baby in a group makes sense because connections are everything. If a group has great singers and dancers and then a less talented nepo baby that has direct ties to famous or powerful people in the industry, their presence is technically gonna be more instrumental to the success of the group than anyone else there whether it's fair or not so is it right to say they shouldn't be there when other positions that have nothing to do with musical talent are expected? Like visuals, someone being hot should have nothing to do with music but it's as important if not more important. Age? Race? The nepo baby problem is a symptom of what sells in Kpop IMO.

Correction for Giselle part, she indeed went thru Saturday audition but it took her 4 times to get thru it. In fact she didn’t pass with Mark’s rap, it was CL’s Lifted. It might be true she could be from wealthy family, but her success is not from her wealth cable, she can be considered as self made 😊

Let's be honest, we ALL would use convections if we had them. If you say you would not then you are as fake as some idols image. Some of this so call Nepo babies are talented and put the effort to get where they are. Don't hate them just because they have money or connection.

if these "nepo babies" are genuinely talented, they shouldn't be shunned just because their families are rich - sometimes they are so much more than just their connections.

everyone in world have talent and skills (some can be enhanced or learned over time) but powerful connection makes it lot easier

I liked that when you said "Blood, Sweat and Tears" while showing Jin... not sure if intentional or not, cool nonetheless, hahaha

The big reason why nepotism is considered a bad thing is when its apparent said person doesn't have the skills or background to get where they are. a general example Chelsea client walking in to a 600k job in the Clinton foundation. Even with her experience the senior rule she got while exceeded the her education and experience. Where someone like Kim Chae won provide time and time again to be a part of the industry even though her mother is an actress in Korea. Yes, it helps being from a rich family so you don't have the same struggles but doesn't mean you are going to succeeded in the industry.

Guys I’m sorry but I love me a good underdog story. It allows me to connect more to the idol.

But anton genuinely works hard and honestly it doesn't even shadow his group members so I don't think his 'nepotism' overshadows others and his hard work.

Connections help a ton for sure, but you can't succeed in this industry without talent. Admittedly, their parents being rich also help with that as it gives them access to a lot more expensive types of training.

I don't care if an idol is a nepo baby or comes from a wealthy family so long as they prove themselves. Most of us are able to tell who actually puts in the work

Sunny of SNSD is a real talent. And now she is moving on from SM after seventeen years. She has a great career.

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"it might not have been the reason but it definitely help alot" bro what ?

I still remember someone saying, "there's no problem using connections, in the end your work is the one that prove it, but if you failed you're trash."

I'm surprised how many people in the comments are perfectly okay with this practice.. wow..

Slightly off topic but I feel so disgusted by people saying Anton should "Do his own thing" when he has been doing projects and perform with his dad.. So idols aren't allowed to have a good time with their parents anymore? Who the heck are you to tell him he "should do his own projects"?

Sometimes Koreans get mad westeners use some korean words or concepts wrong but at the same time use concepts like nepo baby or pick me girls very loosely or in a wrong way. Pick me girl is the one that infuriates me the most because they took a concepts that condemns women that push down other women to favor men and then put a spin on it where every woman that lives and breathes is a pick me.

I'm really curious about the new BlackLabel gg. Because they are rich. We will see if they really are talented or not

I mean to be fair A lot of people get into businesses through connections So, even if they get through because of their rich family I don't see an issue with it

The amount of fans who are not only ok but trying to argue with people who have a genuine problem with nepotism in kpop is pathetic. Yall are pathetic. Yes if they are talented yay but there are many more people that have talent that have opportunities ripped away because people with rich parents and connections come first. Class issues are a problem, nepotism is a problem, you SHOULD care about that even if your fave is. Honestly I’m shocked people want to act like this is a ok or neutral thing. Pathetic. Like the amount of people saying “as long as they can sing good idc if they used connections!” Do y’all hear yourself 😭 You don’t have to hate these idols but man that is not a good thing and does say something to their talent if they could not have gotten in without those connections.

Rich and famous becoming more rich and famous

Who cares about Nepo baby? For as long as they're talented, they can join the industry. Besides, debuting doesn't mean they already succeed. They need hardwork to reach success. Anton is such a talented kid. I fell in love with his voice without knowing his background. He may be a Nepo baby, but I'm just so glad that he managed to debut and share his talent to the world. Jin may came from a rich family, but that doesn't excused him from the harsh reality of a trainee. If you're an army, you would know how hard it was for them when they were trainee and even after debut, BTS still struggled. Success wasn't handed to them freely, they worked hard for it, including Jin. Some people may say it's unfair for those who worked hard just to debut or be part of a certain group, just because Nepo baby has money and connection doesn't mean they will succeed in this industry without trying too hard, after all, talent plays a big role. And it's not like they chose to be born rich. Those names who were mentioned are all talented except that one trainee who hasn't debut yet (I don't know her skills).

Nepotism in kpop is nothing when compared to other places where the people genuinely lack talent. Here in kpop its definitely hard to survive without actual talent.

Umji was added to Gfriend so that her family can give the group foods and rent sometimes. That is why SinB hated her so bad before in their trainee days because she was able to debut in just a short time while sinb gave everything so that she can debut.

well there’s ~nepo~ babies and then there is NEPO BABIES

It doesn't matter it's been like this since forever and times are changing, anybody nowadays can become a kpop idol Black, white, orange, reds it doesn't matter anymore This channel has lost its purpose that it's now trying to make up story but the worse channel is "BTSforever2013" you and them are too problematic

Sunny's duo group was gonna be called Sugar, not Teen Top.

Can't blame these kids for being born rich or connected. It's their destiny

It has never been confirmed that is Giselle's aunt, also even if she was there's no proof LSM would pick Giselle based on solely dating her aunt. Also if Giselle was picked based on nepotism why is she by far the worst treated out of the four aespa members?

Giselle didn't deny she came from a rich family but she denied about came from a third generation rich something and have a business

Not everyone can be a Sunny, she can sing, dance and is the Queen of Aegyo. Everyone has an opportunity even Nepo Babies, Kpop fans will sort them out regardless. Great Video! ❤

Sunny must be the sweetest Nepo baby she was talented and she served the group especially through varieties and she could sing and all her members adore her

I think it's fine to use your connections to your advantage because if you have opportunities of course you would take them, as long as they are talented their is no problem with being priviliged

I think people call them nepotism because it’s easy for them to live and train with financial support. But at the end of the day they still go and train and have to improve their skills like everyone else

bahiyyih is definitely a nepo baby. the reason why i tuned in to gp999 and a lot of moas too is because kai’s sister was in it edit: not a nepo baby but came from nepotism

If you dont use ANY connections, you will NEVER make it anywhere in life. Hence why we are asked for references. BUT if you ONLY use connections then yeah it's an issue

I can't believe I didn't know that Anton had super famous parents

Hiiii I love your videos so much ❤

I don't like nepotism. Anyway they use there parents power. Not in industry but it was getting normal in common communitys if your parents are rich and have connections so you are definitely going to get what you want. No matter how much a person who came from poor family did hard work there always a nepo who take the opportunity 😢. And them those nepo baby say we also did hardwork i don't give a shit to there hardwork 😭

People act like benefiting from your family's connections, money or status is a bad thing. Being privileged is not a bad thing if you acknowledge it and are actually talented and hardworking. The issue comes from the spoiled, rich, talentless kids who think they are entitled to a music career just because they like kpop and their parents can afford their debut. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, lmao.

Nowadays kpop industry is more like fashion industry, if u have connection and rich enough u can actually take the chance of debut from someone who is more talented but comes from a poor family , this is sad, but this is the truth of world i mean they have money and power and connection in this industry and u guys think they not gonna use it? 😃Their life is easy from the beginning to the end what can i say good for them .

These idols work so hard. They are not successful just because they are rich. They are successful because they work hard. Their parent being rich are their stepping stone.

Anton is such an icon 😂

Great video once again miss Kookielit. I think it sure helps a company, if one of the members has a ritch or famous backgroup. Ritch parents don't want there kids to fail and maybe pump money into the group, giving them better promotion or more comebacks. But if that is a good thing.......I'm not sure of it.

I’m ngl these days as long as you have connections, have a marketable image and a bit of talent you can become a kpop idol. Members in groups nowadays can sing and dance but I just think the quality individually isn’t that great(for SOME idols). It feels like, if you work visually than the company will work on you’re dancing and singing after, rather than the other way around.

I think why some people push the issue of people getting in the industry because of their status is because I personally feel it doesn't give the regular People to get in, back in 3rd generation some idols that came from regular or poor families got in, but now alot of idols are nepo babies. Which isn't a bad thing if they have talent, but still. Just my opinion though

I'm just glad that Sunny has her opportunity to shine on her own.. I love her vocal so much, she's my bias in SNSD.. But face-wise she's not your typical SM face either (though this is what makes her unique that I love her) so I was wondering how could she got in.. This video answered that question..

The girls in the Black Label haven't even debuted so we have no clue what talent the may or may not have. And if they have the money to pay for what they need to male it then so be it.... the idols that don't have the path carved out by their parents will always prove themselves no matter the case. But nepotism babies I have seen have to work harder and if they can't get where they need then they will fall out. SUNNY IS ACTUALLY TALENTED!!! After Jessica left we seen alot more of Sunnys vocals and talent.

With Kpop being more popular than ever now, it's not going to be cheap to get into it. So, people with good connections and have money are more likely to be successful. It's only natural. However, if you suck you're still not going to make it far lol people in the industry still have to train no matter how much money you make and go through the same struggles working day after day to be the best they can be.

The Korean short movies have covered this topic so many times. Yes nepo babies seem to go significantly further because of nepotism 💀they give money to the company to promote them more

Unpopular opinion: Although not nepo babies, foreign idols being born into an upper middle class to upper class family is understandable because it would be difficult to thrive as a teenage trainee in a different country if they don't have the resources. For example, Lisa, Minnie, Pharita, Tzuyu and more.

sunny may not be the best dancer or singer in her group but her fun and happy personality shines alot. she seems to be in good terms with all the members (even with jessica and openly talks about her after she quit which is a no no in sm) and is brave enough to protect them (like taeyeon being kidnapped on stage). she works hard like the rest of them and treat them like her sisters. she's like that likable normal kid in school thats part of every school clique. you have no idea that she's a nepo baby until you discovered it

9:55 thats crazy bro..

JENNIE mother isn’t a shareholder/director because there would be a valid source we would all see that shows that Lisa step-dad is a chef who love cooking but what does his skills at cooking have to contribute to get her into K-pop. JISOO's family are normal people, it was proven by her. ROSÈ family are lawyers but lawyers can vary depending on their field

i mean, lets be real .. people LOVE Hiyyih because shes Kai's brother. TXT has a massive fanbase and all of the MOAs voted for her strictly because shes Kai's brother. not saying she isn't talented, shes the only member i like lol but i doubt she would've placed 2nd without the help of MOAs.

Nepo babies might have talent but i bet there are lots of others who are way more talented but are overshadowed simply because nepo babies have connections. Here the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I would much rather support someone who has come up with their own struggles and hardwork. From what i see, lately nepo babies have suddenly been keen on joining the kpop industry. For what reason idk (my guess is travelling, fame and being idolised and glorified by fans.) Pretty sure if kpop hadn't been a booming business since the last few years, none of them would've even thought about it. That being said, even the kind of music nowadays is boring. They're all trying to be westernised. I liked kpop till gen 3 but now everything just seems shallow. Like its not about music anymore; just money and its not my cup of tea

8:44 woah straight up slap 😂😂😂. Good job Anton

It would be interesting for companies to scout the heirs of rich companies. High risk though because most rich kids are not used to the discomforts associated with being an artist. But we’ll see

Y’all I swear yall are ridiculous. If you were a Nepotism baby you wouldn’t be talking about “fairness” for everyone. If you had the opportunity to succeed you wouldn’t deny that opportunity.

7:10 why is Anton's mother blurred??

Sunny already left SME btw, just saying Btw riize will continue to rise 😙

Giving the person with an active, popular, big-four idol as a brother whose debut was entirely decided by K-Pop fans VOTING on a K-Pop survival show a pass but then calling Anton a nepo baby is a WILD take. Most idol fans aren't going to know who Yoon Sang is. Methinks there's some bias happening here.

netizen push annie moon not to debut

Nah that Vulture article was toxic af because it rebranded ‘nepotism’ from ‘rich and has connections’ as we knew it into ‘my aunt worked at the McDonald’s next to the film studio 35 years ago’ type of shit lmao

if using connection can make you on top then live show won't matter , just like the recent show universe ticket , just because you're a former idol doesn't mean your good chances are 50/50 in the eyes of public vs stan

Damn Jin a nepo baby😂😂 What took him long to give BTS that debut money we wouldn't have to deal with all those media bullshit for years SMH anywayyyy....lol yall crazy Jin is pure talent....Anton is just talented honestly

There is a difference between being a talentless person who succeeds only because of favour from someone who holds power and influence in your industry, and then being someone from a privileged background who had more time, energy and resources to put towards developing their craft and career, and then was lucky enough to succeed. The most important thing is to acknowledge the blessings and opportunities you had, instead of claiming to be “self-made.” Very few people, even people who came from property, are 100% self made. The majority of people had SOMEONE supporting them in some way.

The amount of hate Bahiyyih got just because she was Kai sister was crazy.

Why was Anton’s mother blurred out?

how come eunchae isn't mentioned at all?

Just honestly think there should be a healthy mix. Theres talent everywhere, and diversity is beautiful. Thats all lol

I think mostly its the companies... they should consider everyone based on thier talents not just backgrounds.. like if a trainee is training for more than half of their life and then there are nepos or rich kids who just jump in easily through connections and debut like in 1 or half a year. And also companies considering the rich families in first places...like no hate to any idol but we can clearly see in yg and black label there's literally not a single idol since the company got big who came frm a normal family.

It's a part of the game. Members of Blackpink for example, aren't coming from a regular working class families either.

Babymonster the mothers of nepo babies.

I know their r alot of artist who already have a successful career and live in this industry always ready to help their children in whatever they want in their life but there is no lie that the artist who always accused of nepotism are so talented and hardworking so it dies not matter where they belong to so I hope people stop this shit of nepotism

At the end of the day they are still more talented than us lol. Nepo baby or not they have their place in their group so I think we have to be humble and kind towards each idols 🫶🏽

To say Jennies family has nothing to do with the industry is an understatement to say the least! Her mother is a director and shareholder in CJ & M! Not calling her a nepo baby, but she definitely had privileges to enter the industry! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJ_ENM_Entertainment_Division

Everyone deserves a chance. If they have talent then we must not hate them.

How is Loren a nepotismo baby by your definition? He is just really reslly really rich.

I really love Loren he’s so talented and nice!!

Not all of them are like that.... They have got talent too! I seriously wonder why these people are fighting over nonsense stuff these days... ive been into kpop for a lot of time, it seriously wasn't like that before... it was so peaceful.... i want to experience it again!! Many people now joined kpop, which starts fights & stuff.........

Is being rich is a crime now Like if you are rich then you can't follow your dreamsssss

Honestly... It matters more if the idol can sing or not!!! Siwon, Sunny, Sooyoung, Hyungsik, Giselle, Suho, Belle... All these people can sing

Nepo babies or not, I don't think it's fair to judge a person or a group based on their family background without actually seeing their skills & talents, plus it's not as if they have a say which family they'll be born into. 2nd gen has a lot of idols that came from rich families, SNSD's Sooyoung & Sunny and 2NE1's CL & Park Bom to name a few but no one can deny the fact that they EARNED their fame via their talent and hardwork. Also there are idols born with silver spoons that their idol career didn't really took off like ZE:A Park Hyung Sik & Block B's P.O (though they are both equally successful on their chosen line of work in the industry) but it goes to show that being born with silver spoon doesn't guarantee succes in the music scene.