How Not to Be Pathetic | Stoic Philosophy & Emotions

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The Stoics pursued a mental state called ‘apatheia’ (from which the English word ‘apathy’ derived). They saw this mental state as a condition for living according to nature; the latter is a Stoic’s ultimate goal and virtue. However, the word ‘apathy’ in contemporary language has a different meaning than the Greek ‘apatheia,’ as ‘apathy’ has a pretty negative charge, pointing to a state of emotional numbness.
The Stoic meaning of ‘apatheia’ is different, as it refers to a mind that isn’t disturbed by the passions (or “patheia”), not the absence of emotions altogether. So, being ‘apathetic’ in the Stoic sense means ‘being undisturbed by the passions’ or ‘equanimity,’ a pleasurable state in which we feel emotionally calm and content. But what about the opposite, namely, being ‘pathetic?’ This video explores the roots of patheticness, the harmful consequences, and how we can avoid being pathetic through the lens of Stoic philosophy.
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00:00 - Intro
01:24 - What makes us pathetic?
06:10 - Pathos expained
10:43 - How to stop being pathetic?

Пікірлер: 669
@logandelehanty780
@logandelehanty780 2 жыл бұрын
"Stoicism is about the domestication of emotions, not the elimination of them." -Nassim Taleb
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely. Depression or lack of all emotions is not the endpoint of stoicism, it is all about how one acts on the emotions one feels.
@Truth_Hurts_Bad
@Truth_Hurts_Bad 2 жыл бұрын
@@karensams994 The guy's one of *those* - but the quote remains true, anyway.
@CC-ii9hg
@CC-ii9hg 2 жыл бұрын
So ironic, for NNT, to say that. He's a cocktail of undomesticated emotions and unrecognized biases.
@rythmicwarrior
@rythmicwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he's also a genius and genius is crazy
@DemetriPanici
@DemetriPanici 2 жыл бұрын
*”You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.” - Marcus Aurelius*
@briangrussing9327
@briangrussing9327 2 жыл бұрын
We are ALL hypocrites...there is no black nor white...only greyscale. Idolatry is you projecting (onto an illusion) what you know you are, but refuse the responsibility of. Think in terms of spectrum, not duality.
@samuelhoffmann162
@samuelhoffmann162 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't even exactly say this. It is not in his Meditations
@samuelhoffmann162
@samuelhoffmann162 2 жыл бұрын
@@markv785 Stoicism is not about controlling others. Stoicidn teaches us to focus on where our control lies and accept things as they happen
@kalash_nikov
@kalash_nikov 2 жыл бұрын
@@markv785 The thing is, you expect Stoicism (or maybe any other philosophy or religion) to give you a perfect formula on how to be ideal human being. But all of them do. The reason why none achieves a state of Jesus/Buddah/Socrates/etc. is that we are all humans, and thus we are imperfect. The idea is that we should strive to become our best selves (like the individuals mentioned above), while knowing that we most likely will never achieve that ultimate state.
@briangrussing9327
@briangrussing9327 2 жыл бұрын
I've always interpreted stoicism as naturalism with an emphasis on truly knowing oneself, so as not to be a victim of our innate primal natures tendency to lean into emotions.
@Amantducafe
@Amantducafe 2 жыл бұрын
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. You just earned a subscriber.
@Nele_NES
@Nele_NES 2 жыл бұрын
Subrsribe to Stoicism, not him, there's many KZfaq creators like this, they are just there to introduce you to this philosophy.
@myfangvids6831
@myfangvids6831 2 жыл бұрын
Both well said!
@ayampencen6363
@ayampencen6363 Жыл бұрын
What i live now i found this 8 years ago.. Do you believe it? 😂😂😂
@countDarkHorse
@countDarkHorse Жыл бұрын
We also enjoy more in our imagination than in reality.
@jes1636
@jes1636 2 жыл бұрын
I had to leave school early and became a shut-in for many years after due to poor mental health. I spent so much time wondering “How could this have happened to me of all people? I was supposed to have amazing teenage years.” Your videos are really helping me to accept that things will happen to us that are completely out of our control, and to recognise when they happen and to give them little concern. Thank you, Einzelgänger.
@max-cs9ko
@max-cs9ko 2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong and take care
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 2 жыл бұрын
Jes, hoping you continue to be at Peace. Remember, our illusionary Ego loves to tell us stories. Attaching to them, or thoughts or emotions leads to needless suffering. You already have everything you need to be Happy.
@ramor4743
@ramor4743 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I feel overwhelmed by any emotions I watch space videos. The idea that because of light all we see is the past, how small earth is compared to the whole of universe... It's soothing 👍
@philosophy.wyn-christian
@philosophy.wyn-christian 2 жыл бұрын
Keep going in life! We are all here supporting you!!
@Sterben_xvi
@Sterben_xvi 2 жыл бұрын
i had to leave school for mental reasons aswell. now im thanking my mum for getting me out of school because of how toxic it is when i view it from a outside perspective
@WeAreAllOneNature
@WeAreAllOneNature 2 жыл бұрын
10:54 ''Stoicism is the acceptance of fate.'' 11:00 ''[Do not] demand that things happen as we wish, but [rather] as they happen. By doing so, we'll be content with what comes our way.'' 11:38 ''We neutralize our passions by not wanting so much from the world, nor avoiding or opposing anything.'' 11:50 ''Treat the world with moderation and restraint.''
@parth6115
@parth6115 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@Grateful4Today
@Grateful4Today Жыл бұрын
Awesome 🤟
@ReynaSingh
@ReynaSingh 2 жыл бұрын
Releasing the illusion of control is necessary to live freely and courageously
@sheltenjones1291
@sheltenjones1291 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Reyna u are absolutely gorgeous!!
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 2 жыл бұрын
Reyna, yes, accept every experience as it is.
@chiknsld3856
@chiknsld3856 2 жыл бұрын
lame
@L_RV
@L_RV 2 жыл бұрын
how do you describe 'to live freely'? everyone has the choice of how to control their lives, e.g. you can eat healthy thus there will be less chance to get ill, which in the long term will give you freedom for travelling or sth else. That control might seem like an illusion to someone who got ill with something they could not prevent... or could they?
@rythmicwarrior
@rythmicwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to get people still wearing masks to understand that point...
@redpixelranger5921
@redpixelranger5921 2 жыл бұрын
I knew I had problems with 'fear' as described in this video regarding "the fear of something terrible that hasn't happened to me yet". But, after watching this video, I realized that my 'fear' comes from my 'lust' for popularity, confidence, respect, etc I guess I unconsciously equated my dissatisfied 'lust' with 'fear of never achieving anything that'll make me feel like an equal to my peers, and thus, will always be a loser in the eyes of others'. I'll try to care less for what I don't have and be mindful of what I do have and can do. Thank you for making a great video!
@rickspalding3047
@rickspalding3047 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you bro
@samaeyonnaise
@samaeyonnaise 2 жыл бұрын
Same thoughts and dilemma
@ElegyVio
@ElegyVio 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is the truth reach out
@jwu1950
@jwu1950 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElegyVio Don't be ridiculous !!! Jesus is not Christ. Jesus told us specifically not to believe in or follow the Christ and the false prophets because they are vultures who feed on dead meat, perhaps like you. Matt 24:23-28 May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
@ram42
@ram42 2 жыл бұрын
Smart guy bro
@trevorfranks69
@trevorfranks69 2 жыл бұрын
Practicing stoicism to be independent from my immature parents feels like eternal hell, but I keep hoping that there will be light at the end of the tunnel.
@jellyfishbrained
@jellyfishbrained 2 жыл бұрын
Stop hoping. Act as you wish but only ever expect the passage of time.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jellyfishbrained Explain more please
@MrHappy4311
@MrHappy4311 2 жыл бұрын
@@BBWahoo Hope kind of takes personal responsibility out of it almost. Like you're waiting for some thing to save you from whatever you're dealing with. You need to be the change -- not some random thing that may or may not happen. You can't count on anything other than yourself. The only thing that is certain in life is that time is passing and you will die eventually. Quit waiting, and start acting. I think that's what they meant.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHappy4311 That's a very good explanation
@trevorfranks69
@trevorfranks69 2 жыл бұрын
@@jellyfishbrained also I already stated clearly that I'm practicing, not just waiting. Be careful with your words.
@twoheadedkitten13
@twoheadedkitten13 2 жыл бұрын
"For every desire and aversion that we wish to conquer, there's an inner quality that we can develop. For temptations that arouse lust and desire, we have self-control. For adversity, we have optimism. Seeing the silver lining and endurance. For fear and avoidance, there is courage. For unfriendly, ignorant and disrespectful people, there is compassion." Thank YOU Einzelgänger for your insights and badass footage.
@winstondrake-qz9jh
@winstondrake-qz9jh Жыл бұрын
I honestly appreciate your comment. It was truly right on time.
@SerendipitousProvidence
@SerendipitousProvidence 11 ай бұрын
Wow, really well put.
@surikateazul
@surikateazul 9 ай бұрын
Im living in the worst hell that you can imagine. Incredibly hard circumstances and your channel is the only thing that calms me. I’m thinking that you have helped so many people. Thank you so much.
@janycebrown4071
@janycebrown4071 2 ай бұрын
I hope that you are having a better time ❤
@sandracairney6007
@sandracairney6007 2 жыл бұрын
I've been through too much alone to be ever described as pathetic. To profess love for those you feel for is not pathetic its actually strength. To be emotionally honest is the opposite of pathetic.
@RazeDee
@RazeDee 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap I completely agree, vulnerability is the root of true confidence
@capohd28
@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын
There's a big difference between being in love with someone, and being lovestruck so that you hang on every word and action from someone to the point that your emotions are under their control. Love should be in addition to an already good life, not something that makes or breaks it.
@sandracairney6007
@sandracairney6007 2 жыл бұрын
@@capohd28 absolutely agree, I'm too cynical to ever hang on someone's every word and my own mind far too interactive. If I feel my emotions are in danger from someone I have previous experiences with, I disengage.
@capohd28
@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandracairney6007 A true Stoic would not have to disengage, but would not react, as practicing Stoics don’t let externals (including people) affect them. At least that’s the goal, however in real life, Stoicism is a practice or journey. None of us are totally immune, but it is the goal of a Stoic. At minimum, we can acknowledge our emotions, but not act irrationally as a result of them.
@ricardosierra749
@ricardosierra749 Жыл бұрын
Is it? Because I just met who I think is the perfect woman for me. I want to tell her but I've been hurt so much. I just ignore my feelings. Ima do it tonight.... wish me luck
@paijwa
@paijwa 2 жыл бұрын
Had this in my recommended during a moment of intense anger and it's actually weird how quickly I got calm after listening to this. Like just a few words were enough to put my anger in perspective and calm me down completely. I'm actually astonished at how effective it was.
@ChessMasteryOfficial
@ChessMasteryOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I read both of your books. They gave me a lot of calm and peace. Thanks! :)
2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear :)
@soul_litude9769
@soul_litude9769 2 жыл бұрын
What are his books? If you please. 😌
@Sterben_xvi
@Sterben_xvi 2 жыл бұрын
@@soul_litude9769 its in the description its the amazon link
@imtired823
@imtired823 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad I found this channel because it's not that emotions are bad it's that I feel them so intensely, and I let them dictate my self-worth. Your channel is helping me realize we can feel things, but that doesn't mean we wallow in them. We also have to look at the reality of the situation.
@sneakerbabeful
@sneakerbabeful 4 ай бұрын
You will never see the reality of the situation, because emotion colors everything.
@janycebrown4071
@janycebrown4071 2 жыл бұрын
Stop believing your thoughts! You are stronger than you know ❣
@godnyx117
@godnyx117 2 жыл бұрын
It's impressive how much happy you will become once you stop feeling entitled and start truly appreciating what you have an start loving yourself! I mean, true happiness! Edi: Just to be clear, of course we all have our bad times some days (or maybe some parts of each day) but at the bad times, you should always remember your goals and your believes! Good luck everyone!
@toddboothbee1361
@toddboothbee1361 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love a stoic take on humor. I imagine that humor could allow one a more equanimous position.
@capohd28
@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын
Humor is a Stoic virtue as long as it doesn't hurt others. Stoics are not Spock. Stoics do not suppress emotion. They experience them like others. They're just smart enough to think before acting on them. But Humor and social interaction are all part of Stoic lifestyle.
@Skin_Man
@Skin_Man 2 жыл бұрын
True, Seneca did show some real wit and sarcasm in his letters to Lucillius.
@Resplencemelodi
@Resplencemelodi 2 жыл бұрын
I think the humour in it is that it could be you? Is everything a projection of something? The funny stuff is the true stuff. It can hurt. but make sure it's coming from a good place.
@IsaacJoshi
@IsaacJoshi 2 жыл бұрын
*"I had to make you uncomfortable otherwise you would never have grown" ~ universe* *Great Stuff!*
@fingers140
@fingers140 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going through a rough time at the moment so I thank you for this it helped me a lot.
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy, Sorry to hear that. Remember, we are not our thoughts or emotions. They come and go. Accept the experience as is. Besides, it has already passed. The Ego tells us stories how the experience should have been different. May you be without suffering.
@fingers140
@fingers140 2 жыл бұрын
@@cps_Zen_Run Thanks for the kind words
@philosophy.wyn-christian
@philosophy.wyn-christian 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you overcome your problems and learn a lot of lesson from it ❤️
@fros9131
@fros9131 2 жыл бұрын
Always remember: This to shall Pass
@bettermanchannel770
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
Rough times...the only way to overcome life, stay strong
@vincentnileski8541
@vincentnileski8541 2 жыл бұрын
I have been trying for the last few years to live more like this. I feel like every few months I go through some new revelation. Sometimes an entire video is a message to me, but in this one I really got one very clear message that I feel like has been obvious all along. Lust is not sexual by any means at all. Lust is something you experience where you ignore caution and well wishing. Leaving you only focused on one desire and one outcome. Thank you for your work!!
@TheDhammaHub
@TheDhammaHub 2 жыл бұрын
Truth be told, that state of mind has a name in pretty much every religion/spiritual tradition! In Buddhism, it is equanimity, as an example
@JaysonT1
@JaysonT1 2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned equanimity.
@kalash_nikov
@kalash_nikov 2 жыл бұрын
Every major religion, school of thought and philosophy talks about the same principles. They are just served in different packaging and emphasize some aspects more than the others. We just choose which one suits us best.
@capohd28
@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын
Except that many religions don't allow for equanimity as they are based on guilt and shame. Philosophy is not built on that. That is the difference.
@TheDhammaHub
@TheDhammaHub 2 жыл бұрын
@@capohd28 I think there might be a misunderstanding concerning the role of moral shame/dread. Those are suggested as a tool to refrain from engaging in activities that carry you away from states of equanimity in most eastern religions. If you have a "fear of wrongdoing", you won't steal, cheat, lie, or engage in other forms of misconduct that are the polar opposite of equanimity. And at least in the monastic parts of Christianity, it plays a similar role.
@capohd28
@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDhammaHub Sorry, but living your life based on fear and shame is as far from equinamity as you can get. Living a life based on good principals is. A person should not need fear and shame to act for the common good, and can often have the opposite effect. Religion often is the cause of much pain, intolerance, war and suffering in the world. Philosophy doesn't do that as teaches people to be responsible for their own actions, not to blindly follow other's orders as religion often does.
@weSlaughter66
@weSlaughter66 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts have been racing between distress & fear for 2 weeks now - I’ve watched this video of yours before (& many others). I cane back to it & wrote it all down, & I feel a sense of peace again. Thank you, in the sincerest sense.
@debralee1401
@debralee1401 2 жыл бұрын
Being stoic seems to me to be very in alignment with spiritual practice, and "wishing" seems to align with setting intention, ie I wish or intend to achieve equanimity in all situations, which leads to action to have peace-equanimity state of mind in whatever fate brings. Being wishful without action is "magical thinking" or "willful ignorance."
@Glitchbound
@Glitchbound 2 жыл бұрын
I love that for every negative passion, there is a positive/neutral way to experience the same thing. My biggest problem is avoidance, but looking at the tasks I avoid as opportunities to be courageous really puts a smile on my face instead of being afraid. Thank you
@Kakakaka-ri2kr
@Kakakaka-ri2kr 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought about the difference of Emotions and Feelings the other day, seeing this today was the perfect complement.
@tania2897
@tania2897 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch videos of stoicism I wonder how many of us are here because we feel weakened by our existential pain. How many of those who study stoicism are students because we recognize and want to eschew our apparent weakness derived from passion? What is the trade off when refusing passion for stoicism? Is there space for passion in a stoic?
@ElysianMpire
@ElysianMpire 2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion yes, i am quite passionate about my happiness and internal well being. More over i am very passionate about the discovery of what it means to be who i am. Stoicism does not squeeze out the room for passion, it simply creates space in a different area for it to my mind.
@tania2897
@tania2897 2 жыл бұрын
@@Troca. Needed this. It's one foot in front of the other. As long as you're moving, you're not standing still.
@loganwolv3393
@loganwolv3393 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, in a way we should still appriciate nice things, and enjoy them when they come but at the same time try to like be contempt with everything and instead of suffering when things are not in our favour, we should replace that with curiosity so we can learn something for the future.
@Joonlai
@Joonlai 2 жыл бұрын
Health is the greatest gift, Contentment the greatest wealth, Faithfulness the greatest relationship. -Siddhārtha Gautama
@HappyEarhole
@HappyEarhole 2 жыл бұрын
I am fighting to save a world that has left me for dead, and it's got me feeling heckin existential dread. I have been told I'm pathetic a lot, but only by people who clearly don't love themselves. Arguably, we're all pathetic to a point. Hangups over the wrong person, crippling fear over something simple that could go bad, but probably won't. Basing self worth on how others treat us, or what car we drive, or what college we do (or don't ) get into. Unless you can grasp both the everything and the nothing of yourself, you haven't got a clear picture.
@katray7452
@katray7452 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. To end the argument, we need both the emotional and unemotional. The trick is to balance this within and without. It is so hard to be human sometimes.
@VBM1
@VBM1 2 жыл бұрын
You do sound pretty pathetic though .
@HappyEarhole
@HappyEarhole 2 жыл бұрын
@@VBM1 if you think someone who fights to save the world is pathetic, I can only imagine you're part of the problem, not the solution. It also seems like you don't love yourself much, bud. Good luck w/that. 👍
@wuutnopepe613
@wuutnopepe613 2 жыл бұрын
@@VBM1 pretty pathetic to be calling other pathetic ;/
@properpsychology1276
@properpsychology1276 2 жыл бұрын
"What I am is good enough if I would only be it openly." - Carl Rogers
@a.b1266
@a.b1266 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is such a reprieve from garbage news feeds, useless twitter threads, and mindless "reels". Thank you for your efforts.
@IsaacJoshi
@IsaacJoshi 2 жыл бұрын
*The fact that you are watching this video means you are at least part of the way to creating a better life for yourself. All your regrets are in the past, this is your oppurtunity to make the decision to start creating for yourself the life that you want!* *I hope my channel can help you on your journey ✌*
@schizoidmeme5470
@schizoidmeme5470 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Abuse and PTSD can really fuck with this. I speak from experience as I do try to be stoic.
@LordBrittish
@LordBrittish 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for throwing this one in my feed KZfaq. The title was a real ray of sunshine.
@PB-ie8cj
@PB-ie8cj 2 жыл бұрын
Einzelgänger, I don't know if you'll see this but thank you so much for what you do. Your teachings on philosophy and stoicism were just the thing I needed to bring balance and wellbeing to my mind. In fact it has been the first and only thing that has ever worked for me. I love how incredibly logical and rational all the arguments are and how they all are always backed up by rationalisation. Your videos feel like a debate with a very wise person and I love that. I still have a long way to go, but for the first time in a very long time I feel hopeful and have been able to find a way of thinking that is backed up by rationality that has allowed me to maintain inner peace for weeks and a better control over my cognition. I find myself always replying with "thank you for sharing" to your "thank you for watching" hah. I'm really looking forward to more of your content, and to research and read more about this amazing philosophy that you so kindly share. Thank you so much.
@Dezzyyx
@Dezzyyx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna tell you what to do but I would recommend Taoism as well, it has many similarities yet not entirely the same so it may make your quest for this more well-rounded if you look into both. Works wonders for me :) He has videos on Taoism on his channel as well.
@PB-ie8cj
@PB-ie8cj 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dezzyyx yes! Thank you for your input. I have seen some of his videos on Taoism too, and I'll definitely try to look up for more stuff about it
@BruceWayne-gj9gv
@BruceWayne-gj9gv 5 ай бұрын
Out of Sheer Serindipity I found this channel ... And I am Glad I found this ❤
@ash8207
@ash8207 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to listen to the wisdom presented here. It's so important these days to focus on the things that truly matter. And this channel is a wonderful portal to teaching & guiding us to find that calmness & inner peace that hopefully will lead to a happier life.
@Torgo1969
@Torgo1969 11 ай бұрын
Apathy is a treasure. I have become much more content (decades ago) when I stopped caring about distant strangers that I would never meet and I started focusing on improving myself in the ways that I have some control over.
@don9870
@don9870 2 жыл бұрын
Life changing knowledge. I never realized that the pain and sufferings is from our view on what should happen and what shouldn't. I will learn more about stoicism.
@giancarlorivera8113
@giancarlorivera8113 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you really helped me in improving...not only my state of mind, but how I view things and events. You are such a blessing to people who are struggling battles within themselves.
@PYR0NinjaPXG
@PYR0NinjaPXG 2 жыл бұрын
"It is best to rise from life as from a banquet, neither thirsty nor drunken." -- Aristotle
@gefginn3699
@gefginn3699 2 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this today. Thank you so much for sharing this post.
@username12342
@username12342 2 жыл бұрын
This channel gives you the 3 A.M motivation feeling, but it lasts
@maekong2010
@maekong2010 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the "Stoic's Arsenal" that you gave at the end. Thank you.
@divinestep3251
@divinestep3251 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your work man! Thank you!. Always helpful. I'm sure your channel is the one that I have shared the most.
@Duraama7
@Duraama7 2 жыл бұрын
7:11 Just gonna take a moment of appreciation for this Naruto drawing/reference. as This one is actually a really good example for this idea inferring how Naruto was before he became more Stoic. Thank you for your content, King 👌 👑
@batidasbinaurais-binauralb180
@batidasbinaurais-binauralb180 2 жыл бұрын
This video appeared on my recommended tab today...I really needed this message. Love this channel. It's my favorite one on youtube.
@sumanthhabib8028
@sumanthhabib8028 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your time and efforts to bring to us such a powerful content based on stoic philosophy I request you to consider my request on increasing the frequency of your content.Really loved it!!👌👌
@garbhanmyles
@garbhanmyles 2 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video for me is perfect. Thank you!
@yearofthegarden
@yearofthegarden 2 жыл бұрын
I don't watch your videos lightly, but make sure I am available to focus every ounce of my personal history in reflection to what you are describing. This video spoke to me greatly, as I am 35 years old and feeling behind. Granted I've accomplished a lot, and have people constantly prying for my attention and time, but the disconnect is in how I was raised by disney to believe a script, verses the reality I have witnessed in dating modern women, and how my lust and motivation for a family has completely upended my passion for success, now that I know the statistics of what I am up against. I always wished I could be blissfully ignorant and blindly charge through life, fitting in with everyone, not seeing the fallacies between the lines, the type who gets angry when their belief is called into question, no matter how unstable the foundation is. That is not the case for me, and it has earned me a lot of favor among a community, so I must continue to shed the negativity of failed expectations, while continuing to embrace the potential adventures moving forward
@moum23
@moum23 2 жыл бұрын
On a tangent: so engrossed was I by this content that the phrase "add a public comment" read as "add a pathetic comment" to my eyes. :D
@sue.F
@sue.F Жыл бұрын
“We are not entitled to a desired outcome, just an outcome.” Golden!
@floryad
@floryad 2 жыл бұрын
Stoicism has the following severe internal contradiction: it espouses "natural slavery." Marcus Aurilius Antoninus' "Meditations" points this out clearly several times. Question - If slaves could violently overthrow their oppressors, and place them in bondage successfully and forever, would they then not be "natural masters?"
@ShadowShroud7
@ShadowShroud7 2 жыл бұрын
That could reference the idea that slavery isn't just of the mind, but also of the body. The reason why the slaves do not overthrow their oppressor is because they allow the bondage of slavery to shackle their will and spirit? Thus they remain slaves in spirit even though they may be physically stronger than their master?
@ahnrho
@ahnrho 2 жыл бұрын
​@eric Spencer It's likely an analogy. Natural slavery refers to the restraint and control over part of one's nature, being the passions -- The successful chaining of such results in one becoming a master that enslaves their own natures. This is not meant to be a dismissal of stoic teaching. Aurelius was probably warning against the potential for the inevitable timely development of powerless pacifism, moral superiority or self-righteousness, and extreme radicalization of stoicism into a rigid doctrine. All the latter which tend to twist, warp, and stray away the intentions of any teaching, as is too often the case in history. In other words, too much of a good thing becomes one very bad. Pardon the cliche hah.
@D0MIN0W4LKER
@D0MIN0W4LKER 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching all your stoicism videos bro they seriously all make me tear up. All these videos are beautiful
@Zepster77
@Zepster77 2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are one of the saving graces of the internet; thank you so much. Beautifully done and I will revisit as needed…. Greetings from the Lowlands of western Europe
@rarebirdjones
@rarebirdjones 9 ай бұрын
“That person didn’t make you angry, you made you so.” -myself
@janycebrown4071
@janycebrown4071 2 ай бұрын
Amen ❤
@Azdingue
@Azdingue 2 жыл бұрын
Reaching the undisturbed state of mind is a win 💯
@Leitefsj
@Leitefsj Жыл бұрын
This is easily one of the most useful and insightful videos on youtube.
@KatlegoMokg
@KatlegoMokg 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best vids I’ve watched here
@venenumcultus2132
@venenumcultus2132 2 жыл бұрын
Stoicism changed my life, and your chanel has help me at it a lot. Keep up the good work!
@AbG-pk4ti
@AbG-pk4ti 2 жыл бұрын
Stoic philosophy has help me tremendously to focus on things that actually matter.
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was very enlightening. "Pathetic" is a charged term in our society, but like most words it's used incorrectly. Apathetic = non-pathetic. "-pathy" is regarding emotions. Apathy is the absence of emotions. Like a famous movie about Wall Street says; "don't get emotional", i.e. don't be pathetic! A great technique for meditation is to try and avoid filtering thoughts thru emotions. As you meditate you take a rational position on what you sense and think. So you may hear a car horn and normally your emotions would bring anger at your neighbors. But in meditation, you simply see this as a horn honking from a car with out any emotional bias. It's a great way to calm your soul. Being pathetic is a bit like being hysterical. You have no control over your reactions as you give in to emotions.
@xandersteyn131
@xandersteyn131 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said, I enjoyed the "story" told.
@mellyeats4425
@mellyeats4425 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video. Thanks so much for consistently helping me sort things out.
@travisratto5418
@travisratto5418 2 жыл бұрын
I feel justified in my initial trigger of anger towards a certain someone. The feelings return time-to-time, I go with the flow and watch the feeling of anger sail away to whence it came. I don't want to feel angry and broken all the time so I often question that feeling. (I tend to struggle recalling traumatic things unless directly reminded). I know we both carry fault to an extent and I don't blame her for being more interested in other guys. I realize it's not directly jealousy or envy that makes me angry. It was the consistent double-sidedness, the lying, the disregard that accompanied the infidelity, and topping it off, pretending like nothing ever happened. I was deeply in love with her and that passion was tarnished and turned into a poison of ego-dissipation where hatred and love seem more comparable than different. I've known her for years and she tried coming back to me upon breaking up with someone else. HINDSIGHT. I've had plenty of time to forget what hurt me so badly here and there. Now I'm older and have learned to better wield my emotions. That anger and introspection of such emotions reminds me why I should never trust her ever again. When the anger and anguish sets I'm reminded of the importance of self-worth. Idk if that makes sense or if I rambled too much. LEFT ALL REAL RELATIONSHIP CONTEXT OUT.
@tobyphillips4312
@tobyphillips4312 2 жыл бұрын
You perfectly described my feelings regarding my own ex girlfriend and her actions. Very well said.
@uizarp
@uizarp 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@PatrickStar.901
@PatrickStar.901 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you guys had girlfriends? Lucky you...
@ariadgaia5932
@ariadgaia5932 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased my first book from you!! ^_^ Thank you for all the wonderful videos! They've been a real life-saving boon for me at times~ *hugs*
@rhobot75
@rhobot75 2 жыл бұрын
Good timing! I put it off a week to watch and can see you have published another vid today or yesterday. And I am reminded again I've fallen off my daily meditation practice and how I sometimes in the year have a zazen practice, or am being Zen (as complimenting being Jewish or being Whirling Dervish or Wiccan). I so welcome this content b/c I've been sufeering so much in the last couple months, and January is the worst time of year for so many people. Anyway, if I'm making sense, with repeated stops to back up and relisten, I am putting this one on a list I keep for future relistens, my public "Wow, Because Psychology!" list- Philosophy discussions really add, plus I guess I ended up a bit of an atheist- have been since I was in 2nd grade in parochial Catholic school and all the 1st communion stuff just was not making sense to my brain, and just put up with the following 10 years till I was 18 and could make my own choices for education. Anyway. Have a nice day, Creator Channel Person : ) and happy 2022 we hope coming out of pandemic. .
@JerseyLynne
@JerseyLynne 2 жыл бұрын
Concussion injury caused in me emotional damage. It is such a painful state to not be able to control strong emotions, especially when they are caused by narcissistic abuse. It feels so unfair, my sufferiing. Your channel has helped me so much to live in acceptance of my condition. It is not the struggles in life that are hard, it is when I struggle with the struggles. As I was drifting off to sleep my youngest daughter came to mind. She is pregnant and my thoughts take the direction of my pregnancy with her. She cut me off, won't talk to me, for whatever reason. I cannot control it. The thought took me from the pleasant drowsiness to sitting up straight in bed, to an alert distressed state, heart racing. I have a pill that will shut down the amygdala, but I didn't take it. I am tired of taking a pill on the account of someone else. I didn't sleep that night. Lack of sleep causes me even less control of this pitiful state. I felt pathetic. Because this surge in emotions happened when I was not fully awake, I wondered, how could I have prevented it. I was in terrible pain for two days. I finally slept, woke up late in the day (now) and am trying to reorient myself, get back on my track. So I am drinking coffee and see your new post. I will have to finish watching it later, I am still in a fog. I am hoping that I will achieve greater insight to my predicament. I am so sensitive and raw. Meanness can lay me out for days, so for me, people are dangerous. I keep to myself. I need to venture out today and buy food. I am even more vulnerable today and I know it, I dread the idea. But I know I will be hungry. Isn't this the definition of pathetic?
@haylo3618
@haylo3618 2 жыл бұрын
Meanness hurts me like you..I avoid going out too...I am also scared of over reacting...I dont want to yell or be mean back because its upsetting and ends up scaring people...and then, I'm the bad person...no thanks.
@flowerpower2726
@flowerpower2726 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out david goggin’s book “can’t hurt me”. The audio version is fantastic. Very inspirational story and motivation to strengthen the mind and learn to deflect all of the bullshit that life throws at you. Stay hard.
@JerseyLynne
@JerseyLynne 2 жыл бұрын
@@haylo3618 thank you for listening and responding. I have been isolated for so long, I can't tell if I exist, your response tells me I do!
@JerseyLynne
@JerseyLynne 2 жыл бұрын
@@flowerpower2726 I will do it. Thank you for your response.
@constancecampbell4610
@constancecampbell4610 2 жыл бұрын
I think your choice to not struggle with the struggle is very wise. I am still working on not having feelings about my feelings! Blessings and peace to you.
@thechancellor-
@thechancellor- 2 жыл бұрын
To the *incredible person* seeing this, I wish you all the best in life❤ don't over blame yourself, accept things and go forward. Don't let others define what “success” is for you. Get up, learn the skills needed and get after it, all the keys to a happy life is in your hands. Keep pushing.
@TaherNagati
@TaherNagati 2 жыл бұрын
This video is different. This is gonna change my life. I had to rewatch and pause multiple times to understand... Thank you for this...
@philipkim9779
@philipkim9779 2 жыл бұрын
"Do not demand that things happen as we wish, but as they happen.'' Thank you.
@nicomarti13
@nicomarti13 2 жыл бұрын
This was really good. I needed this. Thank you
@rostovsr6456
@rostovsr6456 2 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video - thank you.
@SarahCobbler
@SarahCobbler 2 жыл бұрын
I really needed this. Thank you.
@Pobcast1
@Pobcast1 2 жыл бұрын
Overall I agree with the comments about cheating. But you cannot be the one to say this to the person you’ve cheated on lol. If you cheat on someone, you should also on up and take accountability for hurting someone’s feelings. You can try to become a philosopher all of the sudden explain why they shouldn’t be upset. That’s the act of a sociopath
@Skin_Man
@Skin_Man 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was approaching it from the perspective of the person *being* cheated on, but yeah. If the other person was philosophical they wouldn't cheat in the first place.
@robsie7777
@robsie7777 2 жыл бұрын
Another superb vid. Thank you
@liafuentes326
@liafuentes326 2 жыл бұрын
Stoicism is so beautiful! Thanks for your videos!
@JaysonT1
@JaysonT1 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the eastern philosophies more.
@Noukz37
@Noukz37 2 жыл бұрын
The "banquet" quote is just stellar!
@trevorfranks69
@trevorfranks69 2 жыл бұрын
"for distress, there is no replacement." Why do I laughed so hard on that part
@SomewhereInIndiana1816
@SomewhereInIndiana1816 2 жыл бұрын
Profound and thought provoking! Thanks 👍
@Quickeasyguitarlessons
@Quickeasyguitarlessons 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man Your videos are very therapeutic 💆‍♂️
@xueyingliang4499
@xueyingliang4499 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see your new video released. I have been waiting for a month. ☺️
@northwestdestiny1388
@northwestdestiny1388 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Thank you!
@patomoro258
@patomoro258 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and i thank you for your work in KZfaq. Greetings fromm Germany.
@Life_42
@Life_42 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the enlightenment.
@raw_dah
@raw_dah 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Really helped me.
@theunfortunateguy8348
@theunfortunateguy8348 Жыл бұрын
It's always a blessing!
@sk61181
@sk61181 2 жыл бұрын
No better timing for this video than this, atleast for me✨👍🏽✨
@bertkistoo3272
@bertkistoo3272 2 жыл бұрын
11:46 … the banquet analogy by Epictetus was great.
@KamakazeKee7
@KamakazeKee7 Жыл бұрын
The replacement of Distress is Gratitude. We cannot control every circumstance, but we can be thankful of them as a learning tool to advise us to make certain decisions accordingly.
@martind5565
@martind5565 2 жыл бұрын
The outro was amazing!!
@GilMarinho
@GilMarinho 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, thanks for this content, I'm sharing this amazing ideas here in Brazil
@ChemistTea
@ChemistTea 2 жыл бұрын
This is good! Thanks. I like the stoic philosophy. It's not perfect, but it's a good way of thinking. It helped me in my feeble attempts to change how I think. I like the part about delight.
@zedvood2882
@zedvood2882 2 жыл бұрын
such a good helpful video! thanks
@fitwesdaily
@fitwesdaily 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Subscribed
@JustStudioSix
@JustStudioSix 25 күн бұрын
This is the last video i needed...i have a clarity now
@sudarshanbadoni6643
@sudarshanbadoni6643 2 жыл бұрын
APATHEIA is great selfexplainatory word telling it's meaning without a story or explanation is essence of those great languages of past and Epicetus is a great realiser ready to moving upward giving meaning to this word. Thanks.
@Yaxye.
@Yaxye. Жыл бұрын
Apathy always felt like not being alive. Emotions seem to connect me to life itself at times
@Torgo1969
@Torgo1969 11 ай бұрын
"The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one’s balance, after which, no action can be trusted." - Thief: The Dark Project
@NotByron1
@NotByron1 2 жыл бұрын
I watched all your videos !!! I was waiting for your next video👌👌👌
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