"He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane (Red Alert DOS installation)

An easier way to understand this is: Tiberium Timeline: - Everything's Linear Red Alert Timeline: - For every new iteration, everything's swept off the table.

Like the Brotherhood of Nod, the C&C fandom shall rise from the ashes once more! EA can't kill C&C!

I kinda would've loved it if Kane made a small cameo in the other two timelines. He would be Yuri's secret mentor in RA2, and he would be a secret backer of the GLA in Generals.

I find it kind of compelling that there is no Kane and no Nod referenced at all in the Allied campaigns. This implies that Kane and Nod were operating so secretively that they flew completely under the radar of the Allied powers until the Tiberium Dawn happened. Pretty sneaky. And pretty cool.

The developers have already answered this question in the past. In an old forum post Adam Isgreen, a former C&C lead developer, stated: "the solution to RA2's complete break of the RA -> C&C -> TS fiction was something that several of us came up with to "fix" the problem. RA being the prequel was what we (Westwood LV) intended for the series. It was originally called C&C0, FYI. RA2 was a great game, but we had issues with how to fit that into the timeline we wanted to maintain. We found a creative way to fix it. It's in the WWv2 C&C3 GDI campaign.Yuri, an acolyte of Kane's (Nod was experimenting with psionics in the WWv2 C&C3) is sucked into a chrono-vortex that is created by a Chronosphere that GDI inadvertently activates (along with some other RA-era tech) while attempting to retrieve the only other existing suit of powered "screaming eagle" commando armor (the first was melted on re-entry from orbit when the Philadelphia was destroyed) from the sealed tech vaults at Area 51. Just like Einstein fracturing the timeline from "real" time with his little trip back into the past in RA, so did Yuri's presence throw off the already-altered timeline again, creating the RA2 reality. RA games would have continued in that splintered reality. That is how it would have been explained. End of story on that." One could make the argument that this is not canon. However, I think the timeline being altered from something other than Allied or Soviet victory makes more sense. In no other C&C game does the conflicting campaigns make any alternate timelines. In fact, the Allied and Soviet campaigns somewhat complement each other. In the Soviet campaign you focus on the south, and in the Allied campaign most missions are in the north. Most missions in the two campaigns do not directly contradict each other, and I have even seen someone on Reddit use this to try and create a chronological mission order, showing that both campaigns can be canon up to a certain point. Kane not being shown in Allied cutscenes is logical considering that Allied cutscenes show only Allied characters. If other Soviet characters are not shown in Allied cutscenes do they not exist? There are of course counter-arguments, but this is why the timeline being altered from something else is better. Too many problems and alternate theories crop up when you say that one side's victory leads to a certain timeline. The Yuri explanation, in which his time travel created an entirely different timeline, is much cleaner in that it allows the two franchises to be separate, while allowing Red Alert to still stay part of both. There are of course lots of unanswered questions, but answering them with "The timeline got messed up so some things are different" is cleaner than trying to jump through hoops with Red Alert's different campaigns.

I love the timelines you've set up. Gives a little flavor to the whole Command and Conquer franchise (exceptions of course are obvious).

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The tiberium universe start in 1995 with the meteor crashing Italy. The red alert universe start around 1946, ra2 start in 1972 and ra3 start after ra2 allied ending. Even if Kane is not present in the red alert universe, maybe is because it's not his time to shine, he is still waiting for tiberium to come to earth.

Funny fact: Playing first Red Alert I've always chosen Soviets, but in "Tiberium" universe my first choice was always GDI. By the way, thanks for this video. Can't wait to see your next masterpiece.

Kane DOES appear in Allied Campagn. In a FVM when after Evacuate Kosygin, they are watching Stalin’s speach and Von Esling talking: this man, is he Stalin’s advisor?

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the only single point of reference is "obvious" presence of Kane. But what if in allies campaign, his presence is not seen, simply because after being done with Soviets, Kane is working on third world countries? mind you, the Tiberian Dawn starts with Nod controlling most of Africa n South America. How did that happened? May be while Japan, Allies and new Soviet Union were fighting, Kane planted a new brotherhood there?

This has always been my reasoning as well. Plus in terms of years, all Red Alert games take place prior to 1995.

Thanks man for doing this right up to the release of the remastered collection. Such a treat to start a Friday off on. I love your take on the timeline.

I still think Kane (lives!) exists in all other universes it's simply that he's waiting for the right moment, having something to do with Tiberium's existence. His long-lived life would allow him to exist in any and all universes, maybe waiting for the right opportunity, or he knows when Tiberium is coming it's just not during the campaigns we play in the other universes. I still would like to see a game between C&C and Red Alert that tries tying in the soviet campaign with C&C. It would be massive fan service.

Actually Kane does appear briefly in the Allied campaign. You can briefly see him when Stalin was making his speech to nuke everything.

Bro it if it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t have resurrected love for CnC, or discovered the remastered back in 2019. You make high quality content about a high quality franchise. You’ve got my subscription 1000x over

that actually makes sense to me, man, you're an absolute C&C treasure Thank you so much for the hard effort put into this!

I love your videos. I also love how crazy the lore behind C&C is. The awesome remastered collection gives me hope that we may one day better understand all the little bits of the universe that they never got to show before...

I love your analysis. That means, in the C&C lore... ...KANE LIVES! (P.S. Anyone waiting for the client to download? Steam seems to be pushing the download back every time it reaches the scheduled time)

7:56 I love how you ignored C&C4 WE don't talk about that one

6:08 Say that again! The man never aged in real life 😂😂

"Before you can truly shape the future, you must posses the past. Assimilate our history, for it is your own." - Seth Note of something that just occurred to me: It could be just Kane's whole "religious way of talking" showing, but doesn't he actually himself several times make comments that in someway are related to time? Could the man himself thus be aware of Einstein's time travel, and know about alternative timelines? The Scrin obviously have knowledge of time manipulation technology, so if they have no idea what Kane is....He could in theory have knowledge about how timelines work, and far more about time in-general. He certainly seems to "predict" things, and all the futuristic tech becomes a whole lot suspicious if you think about it from this light....Even GDI had no real idea how Nod's stealth tech worked (beyond detection of it), despite decades of study of it circa Pre Tib-war 3, which is a veeeery long time of stealth tanks being a thing. The same GDI that during its existence has captures untold numbers of Nod bases with stealth tech left kicking about by that point was still confused.

18 minutes to go! This video should definitely entertain me during the wait. I always enjoy your awesome C&C videos. Peace through power!

Cheers, Stefan. Great work as always!

Your videos are so well put together it’s just friggen crazy!

I love this theorycrafting episode! It is so interesting, especially when you add the details Nod Commander gave on your Patreon discussion... wonderful work as usual! By the by, I messaged you on Patreon. Continue the amazing work! 😁👍

This is incredibly well done. Thank you for this handy timeline on C&C! :D

Thanks for posting this! I'm at work for 4 more hours and can't play yet... Glad to have something to listen to

Amazing !! Thanks for the work !!

What if some unknown Schrodinger entity is setting up the Red alert timelines and their constant changing timelines into a timestream guillotine aiming it at Kane, which is why Kane was so desperate to escape from the Tiberium universe to prevent himself from getting himself caught in a Red Alert 4 time machine reshuffling the timeline by tricking the original Einstein into thinking he successfully killed Hitler causing the timelines to forcibly merge together causing the Red alert and Tiberium timelines to converge, resulting in a grand battle for the fate of the timeline of Earth, as the Tiberium's Scrin now approach a planet with their full invasion force that is now barren of their precious Tiberium...

Really enjoyed this, love speculating on how the timelines interact.

I actually kind of think the sudden appearance of the Empire of the Rising Sun in RA3 deserves some going over. I've actually put forward my own theory as to why the Empire of Japan never showed up in RA1 or RA2 but becomes very important in RA3. Our version of the Empire of Japan was strictly anti-communist but it also was a colonial power opposed to the influences of Britain, the US, and the Netherlands in Southeast Asia. This is what drove them into the Axis sphere of influence in our timeline but in the Red Alert timeline, they basically would be on their own. This might still beg the question of why they would not attack Pearl Harbor as is implied by General Carville in RA2 but I don't think that's entirely the case. You see, in the Hawaii map of RA2, the USS Arizona Memorial is present in Pearl Harbor. Keep in mind: the reason the USS Arizona Memorial is present in Pearl Harbor is _to commemorate the Japanese attack!_ In the context of the Third World War in RA2, Carville's belief that Pearl Harbor can't get successfully attacked a second time might refer to some cold hard military facts other than a simple belief in "the US is just too far away from the rest of the world's problems". That leads me to my last point: why is the Pacific War barely even mentioned in the RA timeline? Simple, it wasn't even a contest. Keep in mind, Einstein's Chronosphere in RA1 could teleport one unit _of any size_ including a full-sized capital ship. Japan getting bumf'ked by teleporting aircraft carriers after attacking Pearl Harbor would deserve only the slightest mention in any of the history books of the RA timeline hence the lack of Japanese presence in the first two games. That leads me to the explanation of how Einstein's temporal assassination led to the rise of the Empire of the Rising Sun in the RA3 timeline. It first needs to be noted that by all accounts, the World War II shown in RA1 could have _easily_ been far more bloody than our own WWII given that the Allies successfully invade and occupy the Soviet Union in that timeline. Without Einstein's Chronosphere, there is no decisive victory for about 30 years making the bloodshed even worse. Also, without Einstein's Chronosphere, the US would need an equivalent amount of force as applied in our timeline to knock Japan out of the war, which they wouldn't have available due to being tied down in Europe in the RA3 timeline. In essence, The Empire of the Rising Sun would be a Japan that met no resistance after establishing the Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

We really really Appreciate the work you have done! Awesome Video Man! ps....pls do more!

Awesome video Stefan I love seeing C&C lore videos and the views it pulls on your videos proves that the C&C Community lives

Shrödingers Kane...Now I can't shake the mental image of Kane wearing cat ears...

Love your vids everything finally starts to sorta make sence

The Allies ending is still canon to tiberium timeline. It has two ending brances stretching out (Three if you count the soviet ending). One leads to red alert 2 and onward the others to tiberium. Smart move by westwood it means they could make more games and stories. But just because you dont see Kane and the Brotherhood in the allied campaign does not mean they dont exist. In the tiberium branch i would think that when the soviets are on the defence and losing the war, Kane and the Brotherhood simply goes into hiding since the union have failed them. Nod needs to prepare for the coming of tiberium and remain hidden from the UN and the world. And since you also dont see Kane and the Brotherhood also it is a nice foundation for the continuation for the red alert series. So bottom line is Allies ending is canon for both series but the soviet one is not. If the soviets had won the war there would be no more UN probably and therefor no Global defence agency. Nod would have Asia and Europe in their hands and few if any would be able to truly stand up to them. So there would probably not be any tiberium war in 1995.

What if Kane is not unbelievably old, but instead... a Time Traveller. Would explain how he has foreknowledge of future events, and Kane even says something along the lines of "I can see the future."

5:30 The Red Alert 2 game manual specifically mentions the events of Red Alert 1. 6:40 Yes we do, the war took place in the 50s. This, again, goes back to the game manual for Red Alert 2, since the manual says it's been 20 years since WW2, and Red Alert 2 ends in 1972.

What a perfect timing, just the day of the remaster! I love your C&C related vids :)

Mate I friggin love your videos.

Maybe Kane gone underground or hidden on the alternate universe where the tiberium didn't come to earth that explained his disappearance on Red Alert 2, or maybe because of Yuri? Maybe Yuri found out Kane's plan for the Soviet Union and killed him so he can replace him on betraying the Soviets. Like replacing the betrayer by a betrayer. Then Yuri used the new premiere as a puppet just like Kane using Stalin as a puppet for the brotherhood.

Great presentation as always.

Great video as usual! I never thought about it the way you layed it out ... the AR1 Allied campaign leading to TD and the Soviet campaign leading to AR2. But it makes sense. And it feels good to somehow be able to tue these universes together. So once again, thank you for delivering such quality C&C lore related content!

Hi, Stefan. Just came back from the first GDI mission in the remasters. I think I want to cry. It’s beautiful......

Did you know about Command & Conquer 3: Incursion Plot: The introductory sequence showed a GDI commando in Screaming Eagle power armor[4] floating in the debris field of Philadelphia, destroyed off screen by Nod. There were a number of flashback sequences before the commando re-entered the atmosphere. The armor was melted during re-entry.[5] GDI and Nod fought in Area 51. GDI was attempting to retrieve the remaining Screaming Eagle suit from the vaults. During the fighting, GDI inadvertently activated technology from Command & Conquer: Red Alert in one of the vaults, including a Chronosphere. A chrono vortex threw Yuri back in time. Yuri was the result of Nod's psychic experimentations and an acolyte of Kane. This would make Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 another branch of the timeline.[4] Not that much is known about the plot afterwards, but it is known that it included the Scrin coming to Earth, lured by the Scrin rebels stealing the Tacitus, and also CABAL as a faction of its own. The Scrin believed that Tiberium would kill off humans, but didn't account for the effect it had on some humans, the Forgotten. They were able to harness Tiberium's energies themselves, able to direct them against the Scrin, nullifying their powers or even controlling ion storms. They were supposed to be a playable faction in an expansion pack for Incursion.

One sneaky chronosphere use can reconnect everything if they ever want to.

solid videos. keep at it

This was a pretty cool video. Thanks for doing this analysis.

Kane’s the link to EVERYTHING…

Speaking of Firestorm and Tiberium War, I'm really hoping that the success of this remaster means those games get remastered as well, I personally consider them the pinnacle of the series.

Love these vids keep up the good work!

thanks for making this vid.

This makes sense, since If I go check when the meteor landed in Tib wars, it was... 1995?

4:38 Dammit, Kane, you killed the music composer! How are we going to finish the game now?

Very cool video!! I love Red Alert 1 sooo much!!!!!!

why on release date? I dont have time to watch yt on release date -> I play the game :D :D

fantastic! Thanks for the video

all i know how red alert relates to tiberium is kane is the Schrödinger's cat Do not read below this text if you consider this a spoiler and have never seen red alert cutscenes =============================================== if kane exist, the russian would have won the Red alert campaign and the timeline moves to tiberium dawn If kane does not exist, the allies won and we went into the red alert 2 timeline WHICH IS WHY to ensure the forming of NOD successfully YOU will play the Red alert campaign first to ensure soviet victory and then move on to tiberium dawn to finish the NOD campaign, if you call yourself a NOD believer in the name of KANE

You know what mate, your subs don't add up for the quality of your videos. This is great stuff mate, keep it up.

As always, a great video. I too like your interpretation of the timeline. I can't remember exactly where I heard this, but I do remember someone from Westwood stating the Red Alert 1 is supposed to be a prequel, before RA2 threw out that idea. Either way, can't wait for that GDI video!

“When does Kane wear a hat?” Exactly what Kane would want you to think!

Thanks for this video! I actually fired up the Soviet campaign first in RA1 remastered. Since i am curious how the timelines will fit in. I am looking forward to your c&c content. Cheers!

This is my personal head canon. Red Alert happens (late 40's into 50's), Stalin throws too many resources into trying to take the Chronosphere. The Soviets lose and Allies win, GDI is formed (under a different name as according to their lore they were extremely classified prior to TW1 and they were a UN branch) RA2 happens (the 70's). Kane is never seen after this fight, and his Brotherhood of Nod agents around the world to oversee how events play out in major world events. WW3 happens, YR happens, Allies win in all of them. The interwar conflict occurs, Allies win but the Soviets use the time machine and go back in time (RA3). They kill Enstein, without Enstein no Chronosphere is invented in WW2, neither are nukes. The Soviets don't pour all of their resources into taking the Chronosphere and the Soviets win, but just barely. Stalin is assasinated as per the in-game cutscenes, the Soviets dissolve as their power grip was tenuous after WW2. The Allies are brought back but their power is weak. We snap back to the RA3 intro (the 80's) when Krukov, Cherdenko, and Zelinsky are brought back and we see the result. The Soviets still reign supreme in their homeland and the Allies are weak, they push but then the Empire attacks: RA3 occurs, following the logic you said of if a mission does not contradict the "golden path" of the game then that mission can be considered canon even if it is from another campaign. The Allies win, the Uprising occurs. As part of the Uprising, FutureTech attempts to take technology from each of the world powers in Commander's Challenge, attacking all of the factions anonymously and even the Allies are exhausted from fighting such a massive 3 way war in RA3. Futuretech builds the Sigma Harmonizer with so much technology. The campaigns of the Uprising happen in this order (through Yuriko in, wherever it is not relevant): Soviet (the Allies back off from the Soviets after the harmonizer incident, and the Soviets begin trying to take Empire territory), Empire (Empire fight the Soviets off and wipe them out completely in the Vladivostok assault). The Allies can't let this level of Uprising go unanswered despite their weak situation and attack the Empire with what they have left. Allies win (Tatsu was playing both sides, only Kenji knew as he is the only commander we see in Empire campaign, so it explains why only Kenji flips his shit at Tatsu when he loses). Allies are spread thin and weakened, they reform into GDI to consolidate resources. The world we see in the tiberium universe is a world that is devastated from on off warfare and has beaten itself backward in technology in some areas. Tiberium arrives in '95, the tiberium universe occurs. Kane reveals himself openly after operating from the shadows throughout all of this. Kane is immortal, I don't imagine he'd let something as silly as time travel stop him considering how open it is in the RA universe that time travel exists. Nothing to prove this, as I said, this is just my personal head canon.

Awesome new video man! Or as the engineers from Tiberian Sun would say: "Affirmative, No problem, No problem, Affirmative"

Although this video was very good, the usual pseudo in-universe way of narration is just amazing. I feel like I'm watching an actual documentary and I can really submerge myself inside the universe of CnC. Anyway, can't wait for more Nod stuff. Honestly I'd be fine if you just talked about stuff about the universe you wrote yourself and are in no way canon. You're more canon than EA anyway.

When Kane exists (in the Tiberium universe) there was Tiberium coming from space. But when kane didn't exist (in the Red Alert universe) there was no Tiberium coming from space. Does that mean the whole Tiberium situation was Kane's plan from the beginning? Maybe he already had contact with the Scrin before Tiberium came on earth.

I like to think that red alert is just an alternate timeline of "what would've happened if the meteor missed earth" or even just "hey this happened after red alert"

0:23 I can see a Flame Tank, a F-186 Scimitar and an Orca in the reflection.

Great video, and a nice set up for the timelines. I do think that the "it came from redalert" timeline can be chalked up to a branch from the timeline leading to the tiberium timeline base on the gold coloration of the unit and mix match of soviet and allied tech possibly hinting at the early days of GDI following the war like you pointed out in the video. Though as for discrepancies something I'd like to point out is the AH-64 and M1 Abrams being widely used by the allies during the 1970s conflict despite not seeing mass production and widespread use until the 80s.

I always assumed that the Allies victory was canon in both timelines and the divergence point was whether or not the Tiberium meteor hit Earth. No Tiberium, no TibDawn.

This cleared a lot of things up that I could never work out 20 years ago.

Nice man thanks. For someone like me who loves the games but is a bit wishy washy in how i play them these kind of videos are useful and entertaining.

Nice! I never about this dossier! Make more videos pls about all the information in CC 3 please :D

I never really felt like Red Alert being related to C&C1 worked super well. Part of the unique appeal of Tiberian Dawn to me is the very "day after tomorrow" feel to it; despite gameplay conventions like the MCV, almost everything about GDI's look and feel is meant to evoke totally mundane, real-world-ish tech (M16s, Humvees, etc), whereas what makes NOD cool and interesting is that they have this mysterious, cutting-edge super-science that's visually and thematically distinct. The world of Tiberian Dawn is also intended to feel like our world (or, at least, our world in the 1990s); the game goes to such pains in the various media broadcasts to make it feel like you're catching snippets of CNN reportage on some real-world conflict. Learning that 50 years ago everyone was running around in time-traveling art deco battleships kind of...takes away from all that.

New content :D thank you

Excellent video! I have always felt that RA1 was a prequel to Tiberium Dawn even since I was a wee tot. I know the sequels afterwards make it hard and/or impossible to tie them together, but I like how you split the RA1 campaigns. I never thought of how each one leads to different universes. Maybe intentional on the developers part and maybe not, but it sure works for me!!!

Perfect appetizer for the release of the remasters. My body is ready!

2:03 in the clock right above the general

Very good.... It's really good theory. Funny fact: I am russian, but in Red Alert 1 i always select Allies. In Tiberian Dawn i select a GDI. Idk, but i say that.

Tbh, I think you’re pretty much spot on with this. Kane and NOD exist in all three timelines, but at different strengths: With the success of his puppet Stalin, Kane and NOD rise to become the power we see in Tiberiumverse. When the Allies win, against the plans of Kane, he and the brotherhood go into hiding, watching from the shadows, seconded when Yuri gets to the new soviet premiere before Kane can, in an attempt to fix the failure of the first war. In the primary timeline, from the shadows, Kane and brotherhood agents incite war by influencing the GLA, USA and China in a hope to reveal themselves in the aftermath.

Great video! Will you do a treatment on the Generals universe? I loved it as a kid.

I am excited for this

1:22 MIND BLOWN!

I always considered the figure next to Nadia in that allied briefing to be Kane.

I always assumed that the Kosygin scene that Stalin was indeed flanked by Nadia and Kane. It works in both the figurative and literal sense, that Stalin is the forefront of the Soviet Union, with Nod being unassuming in the background behind Stalin. The Allied campaign was fixated on Stalin because it’s assumed in the Allied campaign and even the Soviet one that he was running the show. The Allied wouldn’t have cared for Kane because he was probably just viewed as some random Stalin lackey. It’s that in the Soviet campaign too but there’s an element of mystery and nervousness from other Soviet characters when Kane is present. It fits well with the Nod narrative that they manipulate PR too so it wouldn’t surprise me that they did it in a way that Kane can go unnoticed and be the puppet master from the shadows. In my opinion, Soviet RA1 ending is purely for that ‘Nod controls Soviets’ revelation and didn’t happen. It may as well be Kane’s wet dream as he fondled with the Obelisk in his pants. Allied ending is the canon where Allied isn’t aware of the Nod presence and it’s all about Stalin. Kane and Nod slip away when it’s unwinnable and they’re forced underground to rebuild in the third world for decades. Allied absorbs Soviet tech and becomes GDI in response to the events of RA1, which is why GDI has Mammoths.

Personally, I prefer to think that the original timeline that Einstein is from, is the Tiberium universe, or perhaps just one version of it. As I understand, not a single one of the Red Alert games ever reached a date when reasonably Tiberium would have arrived, so it could always be looming in the distance, Kane manouvering behind the scenes, pitting world powers against eachother to both weaken them, and drive technological development as well as weapons manufacturing in an effort to better set up the Nod uprising when it comes, adapting to the changes he found himself with in this alternate timeline created by Einstein. To be even more complicated, I actually lean to agree that the Soviet ending of Red Alert 1 is the source of what we know as the Tiberium Universe, Kane bringing about a corrupt world order where he could supply Nod cells with the tools they'll need. But then the original Einstein's universe too would need to be hit by the same asteroid, which creates (and this is the point where it goes full tinfoil hat) what I consider to be the source of the chaos of so many splitting timelines. Why can there be multiple endings to most games? Why are there subtle differences between the balance of powers between the timelines of these endings? Why was it originally a planned point of canon that Yuri would be a creation of Kane, while also exhibiting what could be interpreted as a Kane-like agelessness (Stalin photo) and a knowledge of cloning (after Kane was known to lament his own impotence)? Two Tib timelines, one we know, one similar, but with the Tib 3 we didn't get. The Chronosphere that launched the Red Alert and possibly Tiberium universes would still exist in the original. Couldn't it be that through events unseen, people kept abusing its power, not understanding its function, creating unseen timelines and unintentionally meddling in timelines not their own? All in all, I think your version of the timelines is great, but I feel it's truer to Kane's nature to presume he is inevitable, and the only discrepancy is how and whether he chose to make his presence known. The closest proof of a lack of Kane's presence, is Yuri's Psychic dominator project which could have ruined Nod, but if Kane could over power CABAL, even an independent Yuri could only be spelling his own doom by connecting to every mind including Kane's. Perhaps I'm just trying to create an alternate scenario in which the developers can just drop a hat and say "okay, C&C4 actually happened in that other timeline. What a strange spin-off, back to business." Not that it will happen.

I've been waiting for the remaster to download all afternoon. My internet osnt the best so Im going to have some delayed gratification, but I am absurdly excited

hey NSP another awesome C&C explanation vid any clue when we'd see your vid about Warzone 2100?

If I remember correctly when you do the installation of RA1 there is a quote from Kane but I do not remember it. It's to long sens I had DOS or windows 95/98 computer to install it on.

I like how Tiberium universe line of games didn't include Twilight :D

The equivalent of the kane figure in the ra2 universe is yuri, more or less. And I think that the timeline of ally-ra and soviet-ra both could co-exist if Kane is considered a time traveller / alternate timeline shifter. He’s “created” by the original Einstein anomaly. He created nod from the dawn of men travelling back in time (or in his original time frame). During ra1, He saw the allied victory (and maybe ra2 and ra3 events). He went back in time and make the soviet win the war instead. He jumped forward when Tiberium showed in earth. When his plan failed, he jumped forward, to appear (bruised) to slavick during tib sun. Then cnc3 happened, with the revised history for the final mission of tib sun. The missile launch’s purpose was to lore the scrin on earth (and the tower and so on) but it has to be done forward in time (again)

it is interesting to think about how they could all be connected. Although I noticed you didn't talk anything about generals and just mentioned it at the beginning. LOL!

Stefan Lives!

So that GDI movie never got done or it's 'still on the way', as said in the beginning? Just tried searching.

I was just having a debate about this with a friend of mine last night. We weren't sure how to explain how the altered time travel timeline could lead to both Red Alert and Tiberium timelines. This makes a lot more sense than what we were coming up with. Brilliant and succinct.

I believe initially in C&C3, not the one we got, Yuri was actually working for NOD in the Psy-Op division and gets knocked back in time causing a splinter timeline(RA2).