How Rolex Controls the Entire Market with Tudor.

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Theo and Harris

Theo and Harris

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So, is Tudor Rolex's puppet? I truthfully don't know...but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility! Today the boys dive into some fresh topics and sweaty shirts and get going. First things first they talk about Tudor's new black bay 58 bronze (with a full bronze band). Right after they dive into some enamel dialed Pateks and Christian explains where and why he'd wear them. THEN believe it or not they talk about some vintage wristwatches (Omega). After the little vintage train passes by they talk about Casio's newest G-Shock collaboration with none other than Budweiser! Finally they talk about if Tudor is a puppet or not. Is Rolex pulling the strings? Does Tudor have Omega in their sights?
00:00 150 Degrees.
2:40 Tudor Bronzer Brigade
7:42 Patek showing us why they are king.
11:04 Some Vintage Beauts!
14:50 Casio x Budweiser
16:28 Tudor is a Puppet.
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Пікірлер: 273
@watcheskick
@watcheskick 3 жыл бұрын
I try think it’s a win in Tudor’s book or even Rolex’s book that we are even comparing Tudor against Omega right now.
@Mister_Phafanapolis
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure that was Rolex’s intention. Now they can be compared to Audimar Peakgay and Paddock Phillip.
@greaterbayareahero1401
@greaterbayareahero1401 3 жыл бұрын
Omega needs to spin off a new company called Alpha to fight against Tudor.
@bladeknockingon700
@bladeknockingon700 3 жыл бұрын
@@greaterbayareahero1401 unfortunately there is a company called alpha and they make homage watches. They could use epsilon, theta, delta, gamma any other Greek letter
@TurnRiver
@TurnRiver 3 жыл бұрын
I still see omega vs rolex threads 100x more than omega vs tudor
@greaterbayareahero1401
@greaterbayareahero1401 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladeknockingon700 Damn, but you understand the theory. Rolex has their game plan to use Tudor as the men at the front of the battle. Omega should do the same. No one goes directly to the King. it's all a chess game. Omega needs some rookies.
@jason_jay3868
@jason_jay3868 3 жыл бұрын
luving this series you guys have been doing lately, having both on camera. Great chemistry, banter etc Really enjoyable.
@jacobvonloh69
@jacobvonloh69 3 жыл бұрын
That “I had a beer this morning” quick line had me crying lol
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
Without Rolex being the big brother, Tudor goes against the likes of Oris and Tag Heuer. They wouldn't even be mentioned to be in competition for Omega. Even taking into account Rolex affiliation, Tudor is more of a Breitling competitor. This isn't a knock on Tudor watches at all, very nice watches, but still...
@Archfiend88
@Archfiend88 3 жыл бұрын
Which is even sadder cause if you give me the choice between a black bay 58 & a B01 chronomat or premier, I’m choosing the premier. And I like the black bay, but you put Tudor’s catalog side by side with Breitling and Tudor comes up short as a competitor.
@Mister_Phafanapolis
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, none of the luxury stainless steel watches are really “worth it” when you compare the nuts and bolts to a high end Seiko, Oris, Monta, Brellum, whatever. Prices are all justified on marketing, logo and (edit) _the very subjective superiority of design._
@Johnlt13
@Johnlt13 3 жыл бұрын
Now compare a Tudor Pelagos with the Omega SMP. It’s clear they are on the same level. Nod going to Omega for bling but Pelagos is obviously the “ Real” tool watch.
@syncswim
@syncswim 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, from a hardware/specs perspective, most current Omega models outperform Rolex equivalents whereas Tudor, while technically impressive, is forever bound by the Diffusion Brand Shalt Never Outperform Mothership Brand commandment.
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 3 жыл бұрын
The US watch market doesn’t represent the world watch market. Depends. If you look at world wide average price sales per unit, Tudor competes price wise with Tag while Brietling compares price wise closer to Omega. Checkout the report by Morgan Stanley as reviewed by NSOW.
@hidjjohnson
@hidjjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor will never overtake Omega. Only the hype drives Tudor prices. Owning watches from both, Tudor is nowhere near Omega. Most of their designs are too left field also.
@BourbonInhibitions
@BourbonInhibitions 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I thought the comparison was comical. Tudor hour hands look like penises and they will always be the Porsche Boxster to a 911 with Rolex. Omega is better than both brands frankly.
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonInhibitions older oris aquis models hour hands look like a penis. I don't see that with the snowflake.
@Thee_Finger
@Thee_Finger 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched a Theo and Harris vid in quite a while. Caught him on the ac3 stream the other day. Man… this was fun to watch… real watch talk, and seem like good guys. Cheers, keep it up!
@thomasbrocatello1809
@thomasbrocatello1809 3 жыл бұрын
Those Pateks, the enamel ones, use the cloisonné technique to separate the colours, its extremely hard to do properly and a very old technique from ancient Japan, google japanese cloisonne vases
@kurtmarion2799
@kurtmarion2799 3 жыл бұрын
Same bracelet? It has glide lock extension!!
@vloh168
@vloh168 3 жыл бұрын
The fact they said it was the same bracelet notwithstanding the glide lock addition undermines their credibility a bit.
@kurtmarion2799
@kurtmarion2799 3 жыл бұрын
@@vloh168 not enough research.
@scottc6946
@scottc6946 3 жыл бұрын
Some good lively banter. Good stuff guys
@jeromej221
@jeromej221 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are on fire with your videos lately. You're onto something cool with this format. Also, I agree, the "fish" Patek looks fantastic.
@mcliffordjr
@mcliffordjr 3 жыл бұрын
The Budweiser watch looks like a throwback to the 80s something about it is cool
@TheStreetTennis
@TheStreetTennis 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex and Tudor 100% play together. Tudor's strategy is way underway in going straight after Omega and going upmarket. Buy Tudor Black Bay now because in 5 years the prices will be 70-80% higher.
@Ilikeavocados822
@Ilikeavocados822 3 жыл бұрын
another great video! awesome content gentlemen
@stephen9609
@stephen9609 3 жыл бұрын
You guys mentioned a point about how the "watch community" is actually very small and doesn't dictate the larger trends (which I totally agree with). What you guys failed to mention is that outside of the "watch community" no one in the general public has even heard of Tudor before... ask non-watch enthusiasts if they've heard of Tudor and I'd argue 95% have not
@Mister_Phafanapolis
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the watches that watch nerds lust after are completely unknown to "normal" people. Normal people think the watches in the jewelry case at a mall department store are "expensive." They might have heard of Breitling, Panerai and Tag but ain't no way they know about more obscure stuff like Audimar Peakgay, JLC, Longjeans, Nomos, Oris, Paddock Phillip, Zenith and Tudor. It's like expecting a non car guy to know about Morgan, Spyker and TVR.
@suitsandstrings55
@suitsandstrings55 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Phafanapolis Can't agree more. I complemented a mentor of mine on his Reverso and he said in his 15 years of owning it I was the first to know what it was. I guarantee you you show a picture of that fish Patek to anyone else and they'd ask if you got it out of a happy meal.
@steelsteez6118
@steelsteez6118 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and let's keep it that way. Thanks!
@stephen9609
@stephen9609 2 жыл бұрын
@@steelsteez6118 fair enough - but if I recall in the video they were saying that Tudor is going to claim the position that Rolex used to have in the marketplace. My point is that is not likely going to happen with their low brand recognition
@2gunzfilms425
@2gunzfilms425 Жыл бұрын
The general public is starting to know Audemars & Patek, particularly the Nautilus & Royal Oak..They’ve always known Cartier tank and Santos..but generally outside of those and Rolex Submariners, Datejust, & “presidents”…the general population doesn’t care about anything but GShocks. Lol
@laurencefahey2085
@laurencefahey2085 3 жыл бұрын
Love you boys , 2 good Freind’s chatting away 👍👍
@calicobasin
@calicobasin 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was a real casual video 🎰
@akinigiri
@akinigiri 2 жыл бұрын
100% you have management from the foundation telling what Tudor should do in light of Rolex. What managerial team won't consider their two brands?
@complicatedtime
@complicatedtime 3 жыл бұрын
I never really appreciated Rolex. I owned a Sub and Date Just - and they were just plain, ordinary watches to me. Boring, so I sold them. I have many Omegas in my collection, and feel they have more horological soul. I hope Swatch Group pushes Omega to step up its complications game and offer more higher-end lines with calendars, Moonphases, Rattrapantes, Tourbillons, etc - and just move above Rolex on the Haute Horology pyramid - even though, I feel Omega is already above them….
@joev6049
@joev6049 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I prefer Omega over Rolex. They just stand out to me, Rolex’s rarely ever do
@tsouverain5196
@tsouverain5196 3 жыл бұрын
I like what u said but no they can't compete. Rolex used gold even in stainless steele models, its really worth it. But not saying omega ain't hot specially worldtimer
@nolanwalker7250
@nolanwalker7250 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@redbullrobert
@redbullrobert 3 жыл бұрын
Horologically, I agree. However, Omega really needs to do something about their bracelets, especially their clasp. For the money, the bracelets are so $h!+, to the extent that even Breitlings and iwc (though ugly) get right. As a bracelet person, Rolex it is, until Omega gets their crap together on their clasps and bracelets on seamaster and speedies...
@tsouverain5196
@tsouverain5196 3 жыл бұрын
@@redbullrobert this is a guy that knows watches i didn't realize that until I but the speedmaster pro. The bracelets are trash. Good point
@al-knows-nothing
@al-knows-nothing 3 жыл бұрын
Checking your watch to see the temperature. Classic 😎
@Deusmecumest
@Deusmecumest 3 жыл бұрын
Are tha hands on the Rolex original? They look great! Considering the patina on the indecis and numerals look tarnished. I just dont know about the size at 34 of most bublebacks.
@tychovanvugt5531
@tychovanvugt5531 3 жыл бұрын
The bronze tudor bracelet does have a glide lock right? I think you guys missed that
@ErikL727
@ErikL727 3 жыл бұрын
"And I'm free, free-ballin'!" 🎶
@kmmoreno
@kmmoreno 3 жыл бұрын
When are you going to do another video with your Pops? Those have always been my favorite.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about a all bronze watch. I still prefer a SS Black bay. Those old Seamasters are beautiful 😍 I been eyeing the Omega Seamaster Olympic. I also checking out a vintage Oyster perpetual 1971. The vintage Rolex are so nice and very classy 👌
@jonathansmith283
@jonathansmith283 3 жыл бұрын
Michael , where on the cape are you from ? -> you should have the 'curator' relocate to chatham. ~ JDS/CT
@CubanBBQ
@CubanBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
I love that JUC bracelet. I’d love to get one in YG or WG but unsure how it’ll look on me.
@planetdee3587
@planetdee3587 3 жыл бұрын
I do think Tudor can surpass Omega but they cannot increase their prices and they need to make a solid lineup (and not just Black Bays). They really do not support the advertisement of their other models.
@planetdee3587
@planetdee3587 3 жыл бұрын
@Nigel Molesworth what part? Them not supporting their other models? That just comes from a consumer standpoint. I do not hear about much care or development of their other models. And if your average consumer does not hear about it, it is not reaching the majority of the masses. As far as them being able to surpass Omega, it is like Christian said, if Tudor starts to over time increase their prices as Rolex did years back then they are just following suit. I personally feel to beat Omega they need to undercut them. Nobody will beat Rolex at their own game and Omega is chasing Rolex, but if Tudor chases Omega... it will all fall behind Rolex.
@tsouverain5196
@tsouverain5196 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor black bay is the speedmaster to omega. They not changing that. But I understand your view. I'm telling yall that tudor blue navy for French navy is nice
@scottwexlin6456
@scottwexlin6456 3 жыл бұрын
I’m exhausted just listening to these two.
@wolfcommander6009
@wolfcommander6009 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta get one of those Cork straps...by far the coolest thing I've seen
@Watch.HighTower
@Watch.HighTower 3 жыл бұрын
Love these guys! Mike is such a legendary addition to an already awsome crew. #IronSnail4Lyf
@impexRQ
@impexRQ 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, wonderful content… there is blind fans trying to compare Tudor with Omega (it’s insane)
@Long-nd8bq
@Long-nd8bq 3 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed when they showed the Bronze Black Bay... Root Beer colors.
@richardsmegma5081
@richardsmegma5081 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the irony in Michael's face when Christian's ranting on, then tell us who the real puppet is 😄
@wjvlodek8769
@wjvlodek8769 3 жыл бұрын
They both look and act like 2 ding-dongs...
@abdullahaydemir6243
@abdullahaydemir6243 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content! But I enjoy the old camera angle better. In this video the camera focus was kind of on christian, rather than being on the mid vertical, cutting some portion of chris
@konradk.2898
@konradk.2898 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video guys 😁
@mad_wisdom
@mad_wisdom 3 жыл бұрын
Bronze makes sense tarnished (that's the hole point!) and no, going to the jeweler once a month would be an immense pain.
@MrSaadmubarak
@MrSaadmubarak 3 жыл бұрын
*whole. But yes agreed, I'll clean my watch once a month, but definitely not taking to a jeweler monthly.
@watchesandcaps2566
@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын
No need to bring it to a jeweler to clean off the patina.
@bradleyleeper9517
@bradleyleeper9517 3 жыл бұрын
If Tudor comes out with a two tone (polished vs flat) BB58 .. I’ll buy them all!
@rodsalvador3608
@rodsalvador3608 3 жыл бұрын
Buttons optional. Also, didn't Blancpain and Airman pre-date the Sub and GMT, respectively? Rolex isn't necessarily innovative, but their execution is remarkable.
@watchesandcaps2566
@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they did predate both Rolex models.
@nour5840
@nour5840 3 жыл бұрын
much love for' this channel
@rickthompson760
@rickthompson760 3 жыл бұрын
“Check out the big brain on Brad” The guy on the left looks EXACTLY like Brett from PF!
@jeromej221
@jeromej221 3 жыл бұрын
I've just checked and it seems the The Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight Bronze is not available in the US. For what it's worth.
@Kbo513
@Kbo513 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are setting up a Tudor boutique in NYC sometime in the near future
@Englishman_in_Taipei
@Englishman_in_Taipei 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to buy a new Rolex (in Taipei) last month to commemorate a significant promotion at work, unfortunately I literally couldn’t get one. Tried the ADs to no avail. Only grey market dealers had them, and the mark up was insane, also I didn’t really trust some of them. In the end I bought a vintage Rolex (for a fraction of the price), because that’s all that was available, from a trustworthy store in Taipei, too. Rolex missed out on a sale, but I still bought a Rolex, and I saved money… I could have bought a new Grand Seiko or Tudor from the ADs and boutiques in Taipei as they had stock, but I didn’t want a watch that I only bought because I couldn’t buy a Rolex.
@TheJohnGalt1945
@TheJohnGalt1945 3 жыл бұрын
The irony of this situation is you didn’t want an “inferior” watch (Grand Seiko or Tudor), yet you still bought an inferior watch (vintage Rolex) because your couldn’t get a new one lol I would take a Grand Seiko or Tudor over a vintage Rolex in a heartbeat.
@Englishman_in_Taipei
@Englishman_in_Taipei 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJohnGalt1945 the issue is the value of the asset. I live in a country that may get taken over by an authoritarian outside regime, if that is the case I might need to sell said watch, either here or abroad. A vintage Rolex holds more value on the secondhand market than a GS or Tudor, if one is realistic. Due to the pandemic causing trouble in Taiwan (with no real state support for businesses), I got a very good deal as a cash buyer, especially if I need to sell in England, as vintage Rolexes have jumped in value there over the past year and a half. The other issue is that Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex (I didn’t want to buy one and feel “what if?”), and my wife cannot understand why I’d pay so much for a glorified Seiko 5!
@Englishman_in_Taipei
@Englishman_in_Taipei 3 жыл бұрын
@Nigel Molesworth I went to the Rolex AD and couldn’t get one. I was emphasising how crazy it is that a shop wouldn’t have products for sale, especially when they are advertising the products currently. I didn’t fancy joining a waiting list for an indefinite period of time, seeing as I didn’t have any Rolex AD buying history to bump me up the list.
@alexwithwatches6534
@alexwithwatches6534 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor is the incessant left jab, Rolex is the occasional power right cross.
@MariusNyborg
@MariusNyborg 3 жыл бұрын
And the jab is the most important punch.
@tsouverain5196
@tsouverain5196 3 жыл бұрын
TPG tried to be Rolex in the watch game, but marketing was funny. Can't wait to see
@elliottbourne910
@elliottbourne910 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex is playing the exclusivity game. My question is how much would they charge, Today, for a new rolex oyster perpetual 41 at an AD. retail for one on the official webpage is 5900usd. How much extra could they be charging someone that walks into a AD just for a more affordable oyster perpetual, a Explorer stainless steel, or a Airking. Most people wouldn't want to play the waitlist game.
@robertschmidt9584
@robertschmidt9584 3 жыл бұрын
How about this. Tudor catching the crumbs at the success of the Rolex pie? Great video guys. Tudor is already working their way into what the preceramic Rolexes were.
@FightingMango
@FightingMango 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like T and H might be the only “journalists” with the balls to call out watch manufacturers where they have messed up. Tudor for example, the 925 silver Black Bay. In their press release they float that they have come up with an alloy that “use does not affect the appearance of the case of the Black Bay Fifty-Eight 925” inferring that it won’t tarnish like normal 925 silver. However now a lot of owners barely months into ownership are get some horrendous tarnishing. Which is fine IF Tudor didn’t try and brag that they had come up with something special. HODINKEE, Fratello , Bark and Jack etc are have a vested interest in kissing ass but I think Christian could step on toes. I like that. Complete respect.
@PeteMcConvill
@PeteMcConvill 3 жыл бұрын
The fundamental error in this entire analysis in the idea that the US and the world is the same thing. Tudor WAS NOT reintroduced to the world with the blackbay - just the US. The blackbay does not define tudor, it is a niche product for the west. Tudor is, mainly, the royal, the glamour, the 1926 etc - these comprise the vast majority of world wide tudor sales. Rolex has significant influence over the US market as a result of the how rolex and tudor are seen in that very specific market. (note - rolex is huge everywhere, its really the tudor side of this discussion that is fatally flawed). Say after me, the US is not the world.
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 3 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@wuyeah-kx8es
@wuyeah-kx8es 3 жыл бұрын
Heineken would be a better collaboration model. You know very well how the watch industry value green this year.
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Christian re the beer...keep your IPA's, I'm a leading brand guy
@Mister_Phafanapolis
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
IPAs are disgusting. I’m convinced it’s all a big, campy gag by “beer guys” to show to each other that they’re all “in” the gang.
@user-fr9wm8lq1m
@user-fr9wm8lq1m 3 жыл бұрын
New vibe: "Patagonia Philippe"
@mahirhaque1801
@mahirhaque1801 2 жыл бұрын
Tudor is the shield. It's in their logo. To protect the crown.
@wastenotime9292
@wastenotime9292 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video and I love watches
@conradcoolerfiend
@conradcoolerfiend 3 жыл бұрын
show Anna so we know shes alive!
@enterusername7746
@enterusername7746 3 жыл бұрын
This should be the top comment
@timothyacowin9761
@timothyacowin9761 2 жыл бұрын
The eagle patek looks f****** ridiculous, if I saw somebody wearing that I would assume it was a quartz watch with a fake leather band and made of plastic 😆
@joachimrydelius2125
@joachimrydelius2125 3 жыл бұрын
“The dry guy” what watch are you wearing?
@jeanlefranc3817
@jeanlefranc3817 3 жыл бұрын
« 97 outside » says Michael, checking his watch. 😳
@leeharding8306
@leeharding8306 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor is the black bay company and it’s only the 58 that has it’s proportions sorted. The others are way way to tall and top heavy. They are no way near Omega on any level as much as I like my 58 navy.
@ShanePleasance
@ShanePleasance 3 жыл бұрын
The eagle is a Patek Ph. I’d wear the fishdial with people who had a sense of humour.
@carzakone333
@carzakone333 3 жыл бұрын
Why most people prefer Bark and Jack? Because he is showing real watches!
@_Georgie_44
@_Georgie_44 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer Christian and Wei Koh to B&J because they come with just the right amount of pretentiousness. Adrian is great though.
@follandgnat1654
@follandgnat1654 3 жыл бұрын
If you're a Brit, these guys are the Beavis and Butthead of watch appreciation. By contrast, Adrian is the Labrador bounding into the family living room after a quick dip in the village pond. Take your pick.
@nevanonprofit
@nevanonprofit 3 жыл бұрын
All bronze Tudor likened to a Rootbeer GMT lmao
@Jimisin73
@Jimisin73 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve a Rolex :) lol love you guys
@jamespalsson746
@jamespalsson746 3 жыл бұрын
Glad about the clasp, but the riveted bracelet is meh
@williamsomersetVII
@williamsomersetVII 3 жыл бұрын
So...I learned at 14:10 that you can buy an RGM 250v from TH for $4750...or you can buy it direct from RGM, full warranty from the maker (probably even make an appointment and get to meet Roland) for $3500 Choose wisely my friends
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
Oooof! Looking into that now. Will amend if necessary!
@bc6806
@bc6806 3 жыл бұрын
That Rover strap better be up to AC3 standards! Superchat and donate to keep the horned one on the Tubes
@hadenohhh
@hadenohhh 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko is my thing tbh I dont even own a Rolley.
@saneasmydog7120
@saneasmydog7120 3 жыл бұрын
Watching these dudes makes us miss Anna even more
@davidb9531
@davidb9531 3 жыл бұрын
"it's the same bracelet from the standard 58" well yes and no, looks identical but has a very inventive slide adjustment on the fly
@havegregory
@havegregory 3 жыл бұрын
I bought Turdor because I couldn't get a Rolex. Now I'm dumping Tudor for Omega.
@waynesilva3129
@waynesilva3129 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent move.
@Guenounovitch
@Guenounovitch 3 жыл бұрын
First automatic movement was Breguet not rolex
@quantus5875
@quantus5875 Жыл бұрын
Brequet was one of the first automatic movements for pocket watches, so you are correct (and I believe one of the best automatic movement designs). Harwood (with the help of a Swiss company called Fortis) was the first wristwatch that had an automatic movement. Rolex was NOT the first, Rolex improved on Harwood's design about 2 years later. Source: Wikipedia.
@watchesandcaps2566
@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын
In no way does the BB Bronze present to me as a budget root beer. The differences are seemingly endless and I see no similarities whatsoever.
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t think that the Oyster case, Oyster bracelet, brown and rose color scheme and historical relationship makes them similar?
@watchesandcaps2566
@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheoandHarris if you're going based on oyster case and bracelet then you could say it's a budget "insert any Rolex." One is a two tone steel and gold GMT with bi color ceramic bezel, completely different black dial layout and date. While the other is a simple time only bronze watch with 3,6,9 brown dial layout. Struggle to see the similarities or how anyone after a rootbeer who couldn't afford one could convince themselves this is a good budget alternative.
@timecheck-wv5of
@timecheck-wv5of 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@luisct3749
@luisct3749 3 жыл бұрын
What is going on with the haircuts?? the only difference is one shirt button!!! lol
@dilloncoleman480
@dilloncoleman480 3 жыл бұрын
The Kill Bill movies might be my favorite movies of all time. You are lucky I like you so much Christian.
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhaha please tell me why! I will rewatch!!
@dilloncoleman480
@dilloncoleman480 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheoandHarris Because it is gratuitously violent and silly at times, and then switches on a dime to be deeply emotional and touching the next moment. I am also just a huge Tarantino fan! Added bonus, I like ninjas and assassins :D
@dilloncoleman480
@dilloncoleman480 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheoandHarris Oh, and as an art major, I always appreciated how aggressive the color theory is, the Bruce Lee type yellow and black suit Uma wears, when everything goes black and white suddenly. The videography is also super experimental with some of the shots. It really was a trailblazing movie all around.
@TheJohnGalt1945
@TheJohnGalt1945 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I think Omega will always be ahead of Tudor is because of clout. Omega as a brand has its own merits (James Bond, the moon, etc.). Tudor as a brand advertises to most other people you can’t afford a Rolex.
@Angry_Gnome
@Angry_Gnome 3 жыл бұрын
The not being able to afford a Rolex argument....yawn. Maybe some people don't want to be seen wearing a Rolex. If someone is willing to pay $4k-$16k for a Black Bay, I'd say they're able to spend the same money on a Rolex.
@TheJohnGalt1945
@TheJohnGalt1945 3 жыл бұрын
@@Angry_Gnome Like it or not, it’s a valid argument. Could someone genuinely prefer Tudor over Rolex? Absolutely. But that won’t stop most people from thinking you settled. Plus, anyone who would genuinely pay $16k for a BB needs to get their head examined…
@matty89ng
@matty89ng 3 жыл бұрын
@@Angry_Gnome Totally agree with your comment , people that say Tudor is poor man's Rolex doesn't really understand the brand and their strategy. Rolex is completing with likes of AP and Patek ......Tudor is taking risks , innovating and more strongly marketed to complete with Omega and Breitling to fill that gap. Omega is not on Rolex level now , Rolex & Tudor has a aligned strategy.
@Angry_Gnome
@Angry_Gnome 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJohnGalt1945 It's not even so much as settling for a Tudor...you could make a valid argument that a BB58 is nicer than a no date Sub. It's personal preference, and the fact that you can actually find a BB58 with a little effort doesn't hurt. I wouldn't call that settling, but the fact that you can't even find a Sub is definitely a factor, and anyone willing to pay thousands over retail for one on the gray market is just foolish, IMO.
@TheJohnGalt1945
@TheJohnGalt1945 3 жыл бұрын
@@matty89ng You’re delusional if you think Rolex is competing with AP or Patek. They don’t have anywhere near the fit and finish, nor the engineering (no perpetual calendar, no tourbillon, etc.) to even come close. The only reason Rolex is even mentioned in the same sentence as AP and Patek is because they make up for their lack of quality with quantity and marketing. Rolex and Tudor may have an aligned strategy, but the latter will be living in the shadow of its big sister for the foreseeable future.
@MrJoelee73
@MrJoelee73 3 жыл бұрын
Christian ‘The Hoff’ Zeron 😂
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r 3 жыл бұрын
Boom! Watch fam.
@angelusavila3832
@angelusavila3832 3 жыл бұрын
50 bucks a month is ridiculous and indulgent!!!
@mr.personal-ity
@mr.personal-ity 3 жыл бұрын
Theo, have you drank Asahi?
@syncswim
@syncswim 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex's strategy has been clear for a while: Patek-level exclusivity for a mass-produced product. Better to lock in a few high margin sales to wealthy people, oligarchs, and well-to-do collectors who can all be relied on to snap up several new releases every year instead of the masses of middle class strivers whose spending is subject to economic instability and would've gotten one steel sports as a lifetime achievement. Those people can buy Tudor instead.
@QualityTimeWatches
@QualityTimeWatches Жыл бұрын
Im controlling this contest😎⌚️✌️
@rickgreen7393
@rickgreen7393 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my Dad doesn't like Budweiser.
@pumaadidas
@pumaadidas 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex has left so much space in the market by going up market,even though the QC on their watches is shit Omega is too advanced for Tudor to take on Omega eats Tudor alive still Granted Tudor really have come along over the last 5 years now but they have not been a constant like omega or Rolex My money is on omega all the way
@moesawad
@moesawad 3 жыл бұрын
Fortis was the first wrist watch with an automatic movement, not Rolex.
@quantus5875
@quantus5875 Жыл бұрын
Yes -- or Fortis was the Swiss company that worked with Harwood to become the first wrist watch with an automatic movement. Took me less than a minute to look that one up on Wikipedia. :-)
@zulu6ix290
@zulu6ix290 3 жыл бұрын
Does it look cool… yes. If Im going to have a metal I have to look after… then it’s gold.
@lukea2052
@lukea2052 3 жыл бұрын
They’re a nice couple
@drockkelly
@drockkelly 3 жыл бұрын
what is Christians bracelet? I love that thing.
@enterusername7746
@enterusername7746 3 жыл бұрын
Cartier Juste un clou
@TheGeorgianGuy
@TheGeorgianGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I can trust a guy who doesn’t wear underwear
@watchgeek3977
@watchgeek3977 3 жыл бұрын
So you dont trust yourself in bed
@TheGeorgianGuy
@TheGeorgianGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@watchgeek3977 I wear underwear to sleep
@neil.milgausszblue8945
@neil.milgausszblue8945 3 жыл бұрын
Budweiser isn't beer!
@brandonnickerson8934
@brandonnickerson8934 3 жыл бұрын
Sending Tudor to handle Omega is such a savage boss move. A loud b!tchslap across the face. The simple fact that we are having this conversation is even more of a boss move brilliantly orchestrated. Rolex has bullied their way into the "Trinity" hierarchy. Man, I would I love to be a fly on the wall of Rolex's board room meetings. I picked up the Bud Casio. My old man had every xmas mug from Bud since 1980. My first beer was a Bud. His bar had vintage Bud lights signs, even a cool 5ft Hamms lighted sign with a rotatating camping scene. His stuff came out of actual bars. I had to get it because of him. It's a fun Summer piece that reminds me of the good times shared. And it looks like a 1980 promo watch I'd find in a dusty, musty, rusty, antique shop for $5. hahaha
@tripleace1911
@tripleace1911 3 жыл бұрын
Im here baby....now wheres my day date rolex??????
@ATIWatchReviews
@ATIWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
yes, taking the watch to a jeweller frequently to remove tarnish is a big deal. no one wants the hassle of doing that frequently and losing the watch for a week, ridiculous. bronze is nothing more than a gimmick in wrist watches, will avoid like the plague!
@terrydaigle8356
@terrydaigle8356 3 жыл бұрын
If Tudor made more watches 10 to 12 mm thickness they would pass omega
@Kbo513
@Kbo513 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Their Tudor GMT is top heavy and is a slab. Once Tudor fixes their thickness issue and case dimensions, then we have a more viable Omega competitor.
@coffeeboyclips1973
@coffeeboyclips1973 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor can't compete with Omega, the only watch Tudor really sell is the black bay which is getting boring now. Tudor is competing with Longines, Who make far more interesting watches than Tudor.
@jsanchezp
@jsanchezp 2 жыл бұрын
Is Ana still part of T&H?
@fd6661
@fd6661 3 жыл бұрын
One of these guys looks like a Robert Downey Jr lookalike covered in fake tan pretending to be in a cologne commercial.
@THX-C
@THX-C Ай бұрын
Tudor should rerelease the OysterThin.
@MarcSherwood
@MarcSherwood 3 жыл бұрын
What is funny is if Rolex changed the colour of a screw in a bracelet people would lose their minds and go on a waiting list.
@eugenekim8417
@eugenekim8417 3 жыл бұрын
Christian like mad dog 20-20
@FightingMango
@FightingMango 3 жыл бұрын
My respect and opinion of Christian sky rocketed just on the Kill Bill comment :)
@damondanieli8964
@damondanieli8964 3 жыл бұрын
Christian curator of the Theo and Harris watch shop to you, pleb
@river1duck
@river1duck 3 жыл бұрын
No underwear!?! TMI! Haha 😂
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