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Why is Tudor Blatantly Attacking Omega?

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Theo and Harris

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So Tudor is really out here attacking other brands rn...someone come pick up their man. So, does the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic have a chance at going toe to toe with one of the biggest watch brands owned by one of the biggest watch groups (Swatch)? Specifically the Omega Seamaster Professional 300m (in ceramic of course) I think...yes...but I'm interested to hear what you think!
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00:00 Intro
1:25 Joe Biden's Presidential First
4:12 Hublot's...Anti-Poaching Watch?
5:56 Omega vs. Tudor Pt. 1
6:38 Vintage Watches!
10:00 Omega vs. Tudor Pt. 2
17:20 A Special Edition Miracle
20:30 A Blingy VINTAGE Rolex
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#omega #tudor #stop...CeramicTime
lol Michael
Today, Christian and Michael address some of the hot topics in the industry right now, including why Tudor is going straight for the jugular of other, arguably bigger brands!
First up, though, we spend some time talking about Joe Biden's Omega collection, which includes a Speedmaster and Seamaster. Joe is no stranger to the watch community, with everything from a Seiko to a Vulcain to a Rolex Datejust in his collection. And really, as far as world leaders go, he has some of the best horological taste there is.
Next we move into Christian's inability to make up his mind about Hublot, which is hysterical just on its face. The watch in question is Hublot's new rhino themed piece in partnership with a charity that focuses on saving the rhino from extinction. At the start, just looking at the camo strap variant, Christian thinks it's an ugly watch, but upon further inspection of the green strap, plus noticing the small rhino on the sub-seconds, he turns around in an almost complete 180 and it is truly gold.
And now for the main event - Tudor going for Omega's jugular. The watch that raises this point is Tudor's new Black Bay Ceramic, which features nearly all of the same specs as the Omega equivalent Seamaster. The black ceramic case is a given, but looking a little deeper, the Tudor is also METAS certified as a Master Chronometer, which is something only Omega could claim for the longest time. With Tudor throwing their hat into that ring, Omega's sales people are certainly in for a dilemma, especially when you come to terms with that roughly $4k price differential.
Back to Hublot to talk about a watch Christian LOVES - the Classic Fusion Concrete Jungle. The watch is literally made from concrete (to be fair, a concrete composition modified by Hublot to make sense on a watch, but still...CONCRETE), and has a surprisingly minimal design given how out there its material composition is. But it's a real winner, in Christian's book.
Finally, the blingiest Rolex to ever bling OR Rolex, the 6269 Daytona in yellow gold with a diamond dial and bezel. It's the kind of watch John Mayer HAS to own, surely, and it's just really cool. Sure, it might be perceived as feminine on the surface, but ultimately, it's just a cool, kind of illogical, certainly ridiculous watch that represents a massive part of the Crown's heritage.

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@curtisxxu
@curtisxxu 3 жыл бұрын
Christian's shirt is progressively getting more and more unbuttoned
@KBD-ONE
@KBD-ONE 3 жыл бұрын
1988 Testarossa energy
@Svenskadoktorn
@Svenskadoktorn 3 жыл бұрын
It's the Italian in him.
@lucassantoro2016
@lucassantoro2016 3 жыл бұрын
The buttons automatically come undone once you put on a linen shirt. You can’t stop it.
@Svenskadoktorn
@Svenskadoktorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucassantoro2016 Really? Never happens to me. Must be the lack of chest hair.
@complicatedtime
@complicatedtime 3 жыл бұрын
Two words…New Jersey
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 3 жыл бұрын
This week, for no reason in particular, Christian looks like he's going for some kind of Matthew Mcconaughey cosplay.
@diegojuarez3830
@diegojuarez3830 2 жыл бұрын
bruh wtf you also like watches?!
@d.b07_01
@d.b07_01 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex is desperate to be seen as being out of Omega’s league, so they’re trying really hard to make Tudor appear as Omega’s competitor.
@gavincheung4634
@gavincheung4634 3 жыл бұрын
Not looking at the brand. I think Tudor build quality is far better than omega. Omega is definitely not in the same league as Rolex.
@Miscreantpc
@Miscreantpc 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavincheung4634 spoken by someone who doesn’t own an Omega ? The finishing on an Omega is leagues above a Tudor and as far as case finishing , even better than Rolex. Spoken by someone who owns a sub, bb58 and a seasmaster 300m.
@MrJruta
@MrJruta 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavincheung4634 You’ve got absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, do you.
@theaussiewhinger
@theaussiewhinger 3 жыл бұрын
It's okay guys, Gavin is just a bit of an idiot. 🤣
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 2 жыл бұрын
They are succeeding. Omega have thrown everything into the battle: coax escapement, METAS certification, limited editions, a wide range of products, the James Bond placement, and sales staff discount who like fishermen with yesterday's catch. But still Rolex are viewed as being in a different class. Rolex in return have throttled down production to add to the Veblen exclusivity, and released Tudor as attack dogs. Tudor make really nice watches at attractive prices. Tudor make interesting models like the BBBH, they make excellent in house movements, they have METAS certification, and they are cheaper than Omega. Omega hoped to create a "Rolex or Omega" decision point in a buyer's mind. Now they are in a "Tudor or Omega" position. That's not a good space to be in.
@richardsmegma5081
@richardsmegma5081 3 жыл бұрын
Michael is a great asset! He brings a humour & charm to the videos that balance out Christian's often ridiculous & pretentious tendencies. Pay him well 😄
@coronetmag
@coronetmag 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Michael is awesome 👏
@user-zj8wv5bk3p
@user-zj8wv5bk3p 6 ай бұрын
Always ridiculous and always pretending to be someone, well he is definitely one the these.........
@madisonnewyork
@madisonnewyork 3 жыл бұрын
The question everyone wants the answer to is " WHERES ANNA" ? I need answers
@RedwoodAggie
@RedwoodAggie 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Not that I expect her in every video, but she was a great and I enjoyed her popping up in her own videos at times, or with Christian.
@billcore6295
@billcore6295 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, inquiring minds want to know?
@scotts9508
@scotts9508 3 жыл бұрын
She’s in Cali working with some recording artist
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
They’ve mentioned it in other videos and Christian directly replied to me before - she’s working on other stuff in Cali and still assisting with the editing and such. Thus, he short cameo.
@handbagaddicted
@handbagaddicted 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently she was the editor for this video
@MiniMotoAlliance
@MiniMotoAlliance 3 жыл бұрын
Nicco Leonard is right. If Tudor wasn't tied to Rolex, no one would care about the brand
@Sparklingwater1231
@Sparklingwater1231 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, but then again, if it wasn't tied to Rolex, Tudor would've never existed so there would be nothing to care about
@matt554
@matt554 3 жыл бұрын
$8,100 is not the cheapest Metas certified Seamster. They should pull the video.
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing ceramics
@TheRausing1
@TheRausing1 3 жыл бұрын
“This week, for no reason in particular, president wears an omega seamaster” sounds like an onion news headline. “This week, man eats a tuna melt for no reason in particular” so dumb.
@J0hnny8ravo
@J0hnny8ravo 3 жыл бұрын
We all wear our watches for no particular reason, since we’re literally glued to our smartphones. But we love watches and that’s enough reason for us.
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 3 жыл бұрын
Do people actually lead their watch shopping criteria with “is it METAS certified?” Who does this? Design is everything and Omega still wins here.
@KBD-ONE
@KBD-ONE 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex wins in design. Went to the Omega store, and the only design I liked was the Ploprof but it was too big
@donaldneo4317
@donaldneo4317 3 жыл бұрын
Had the pre ceramic seamaster 5yrs ago, love the wave dial, scallop bezel, intricate bracelet initially but somehow I just slowly grew bored of it. The design just wasn't timeless IMO...
@nikomos6276
@nikomos6276 3 жыл бұрын
I love Omega and have owned many. I couldn’t care less if my watch is METAS or not. It’s nice and all but mostly marketing I feel
@diavalus
@diavalus 2 жыл бұрын
I do care if a watch is Metas certified as I know I can wear it at work on some days. The magnetic field I am sometimes exposed to is so high that most watches need to be demagnetized after that, not to mention they stop working properly and I still have to rely on other time tracking devices (smartphone is not allowed because it also fails, so you can imagine the hassle)
@krishnachopra2661
@krishnachopra2661 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not this is my favorite internet show, please keep going. You guys have the best chemistry, proper amount of enthusiasm you both have with the difference in personality, chef's kiss!
@arghjayem
@arghjayem 3 жыл бұрын
All Tudor need to do is come out with an updated Pelagos…..same spec as the last one just put it in a slimmer case and that thing would fly! Same with the GMT. Squeeze the GMT into the Blackbay 58 case size and wham another winner.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
Literally waiting for that to happen with their GMT before I pull the trigger
@jamesminshall4601
@jamesminshall4601 3 жыл бұрын
I want a slimmer pelogos but for me the diameter has to be less as well
@jacktyler5241
@jacktyler5241 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a BB58 as a daily. I’d still buy a smaller Pelagos tomorrow if it existed. Thinner case, drop the lug width by 2mm and reduce it to a 41mm case with an proportional lug to lug. It would be perfect. Literally the perfect titanium daily.
@lawrenceh7182
@lawrenceh7182 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacktyler5241 said it right there!
@tryitout-701
@tryitout-701 3 жыл бұрын
And put the in house in the bb36
@ErikL727
@ErikL727 3 жыл бұрын
So Hugeblow made a G-Shock, without ANY of the advantages of a G-Shock. 💩
@tristandauod
@tristandauod 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like it😂
@walkerb1734
@walkerb1734 3 жыл бұрын
So, not meant as a brag….but I have the money to buy whatever watch I want. In fact, I own numerous Patek, ALS, RM…..as well as Rolex, Omega, JLC, Tudor, etc. My point being, the watch that gets the most wrist time is my Tudor BB58 blue. So, price being no object, I still prefer my Black Bay 58 because it is just THAT good!!!
@MrJruta
@MrJruta 3 жыл бұрын
In what way? Design? Finish? Accuracy?
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
Omega is higher level than Tudor. The Movement, watch finishing & brand image/popularity. I own both of these watches & love it. But Tudor need to know where they stand.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely. Tudor is not in Omega's league, and there is nothing mean about that statement. Tudor still makes nice watches. I just wonder if they would even be mentioned as trying to compete with Omega if they weren't Rolex little brother. Also wonder if they could get away with charging what they did if they had no affiliation with Rolex. They would probably be competing with Tag Heuer and Oris and so on. Must say that THIS year, they have released some very nice pieces...unlike big brother Rolex.
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 Yes agree with u bro. Tudor definitely make beautiful watches with not too bad value ($ for amount of watch u get). But they are not in the same league as Omega. Which is why i have both of these to enjoy different pieces. I think if Tudor is not sibling of Rolex they definitely will be fighting in the league as Tag or Oris but maybe a slightly more advance Brand. 😊
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
@@SG-he4cy like Breitling maybe?
@matthoffman6962
@matthoffman6962 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 Ermmm yes that's a good idea bro 😊👍
@michelinii2311
@michelinii2311 3 жыл бұрын
I own watches from both brands. For me personally, Omega doesn't just win in overall quality and finishing but is also MILES better when it comes to the AD experience (purchasing, servicing, or even just stopping by to browse), as well as packaging. The overall experience is just much better with Omega. It's not even close.
@diavalus
@diavalus 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say exactly the same stuff L.E.: the worst experience I had with Tudor was being told I need to buy more pieces from them to get the new bronze watch. I politely said other pieces that I don’t have in my collection don’t fit me and then they said I need to wait a few years to get it.
@aarondesch
@aarondesch 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps saying that about the experience buying from an Omega Boutique vs a AD What is it that makes the Boutique experience stand out? I'm lucky enough to live withing driving distance of two different AD and a Boutique. I'm about to buy a SMP, who should I give my money to?
@wakajumba
@wakajumba 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a Tudor, spend the rest of your life explaining why it’s almost a Rolex. I’ll pass.
@impexRQ
@impexRQ 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly prefer to have a Omega than Tudor (just look at the finish of the movements) Tudor is far behind
@hugohernandez3651
@hugohernandez3651 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding what? Accuracy? Not really. I had a Black Bay and it was as accurate as the Coaxial movement of my 300M. Power reserve? 48h for the Seamaster. 70h for the Tudor. Looks? Definitely the open case in the Seamaster is gorgeous.
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugohernandez3651 I own Omega seamaster 300m & Blue Pelagos. The finishing & Brand image in Omega is much higher than Tudor no doubt. I love both of them but Tudor is Tudor. They are not the same level as Omega
@hugohernandez3651
@hugohernandez3651 3 жыл бұрын
@@SG-he4cy I asked about the movement specifically. I have 2 Seamaster 300M and two Planet Oceans and yes I agree about the watch as a whole, but regarding just the movement no so much.
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugohernandez3651 Yes I terms of Power reserve, Tudor is better. But movement decoration, Omega better. Which is why i bought 2 different brand to enjoy best of both world 😊
@chriszivoder2650
@chriszivoder2650 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose the question is, is the Omega worth almost twice the price as the Tudor? I agree with the finishing of the movement is superior with the Omega but for some people, this is not a deal breaker. I own watches with display and solid case backs, for all round sport watched, seeing the movement is no big deal. I have an Omega and a Tudor, both excellent watches.
@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095
@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095 3 жыл бұрын
The shirt unbuttoned like this is so funny. Do you guys have air conditioning? XD
@Mobywatches
@Mobywatches 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the Tudor "black bay" is to be taken as the same interpretation as the Rolex "Oyster"? In other words maybe the term black bay is just the idea that ties in all the watches across the range together to be part of the same underlying foundation.
@trevbarlow9719
@trevbarlow9719 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe, but ultimately no, imo. The BBs ultimately share the same design language. Snowflake hands with circular markers.
@Mohammedalyafeimusic
@Mohammedalyafeimusic 3 жыл бұрын
Some of my thoughts: - Rolex owns Tudor and it’s who takes the decisions not Tudor. - OMEGA exclusively has Co-axial escapement wheel. It also has Ceramic dial with laser engraving. - OMEGA invested in METAS certification so they are aware from the beginning that other watches will try to compete “getting an additional money from others” - This is one of Rolex’s dirty games to keep OMEGA busy with this new Media competition. - Till now It’s only one watch from Tudor not the whole collections. - Now OMEGA got a new title “first Master Chronometer in the world”. - Ceramic Seamaster is a professional dive watch, Tudor’s is not (check the bezel) In terms of history & achievements OMEGA is on higher level than Rolex itself (read before attacking me). I think they won’t react on Tudor’s announcement.
@charliesomoza5918
@charliesomoza5918 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Truth!!
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
The editing in this video is the best. Completely unrelated: Hi Anna, hope all is well.
@TheVarskvlavtbichuna
@TheVarskvlavtbichuna 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrostedSeagull lol I don’t think you get it...
@henrycollins2478
@henrycollins2478 3 жыл бұрын
That pulse joke made me laugh more than I should have
@KBD-ONE
@KBD-ONE 3 жыл бұрын
@Watch Geek Biden is a joke?
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 2 жыл бұрын
@@KBD-ONE Haha
@mikes9673
@mikes9673 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also Michael and I'm also not the curator of the theo and harris watch shop
@Thankyou_3
@Thankyou_3 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor is attacking Omega because Rolex is sending their weaker army to have war with Omega before Rolex sends their army. We all know Omega is horological KING and will always be on the throne.
@strapped2time
@strapped2time 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Rolex can be the status and marketing king all they want.
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree with u. Omega is higher level than Tudor. I own Black Seamaster 300m & Tudor Pelagos Blue. Love both of them. But Tudor finishing & brand image is not same level as Omega.
@billtodd7693
@billtodd7693 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Anna!!
@preventdelozacelje5405
@preventdelozacelje5405 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? I find Tudor more on Longines level regarding quality.
@lukebajada6482
@lukebajada6482 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, I would also add that to some,longines has such a long heritage and history and records that many would prefer to buy longines than a Tudor.
@116-salvman6
@116-salvman6 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone is finally addressing this! A tudor with a METAS cert??? What a message from Tudor/Rolex. Everyone talks about how omega watches compete with rolex, and rolex’s response is having their cheaper alternative compete with them. What a savage way of communicating “you are not on my level”
@wqsnsr8
@wqsnsr8 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@donaldneo4317
@donaldneo4317 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor was born as the cheaper Rolex with off the shelve movement but Tudor now produce in-house movement and I think Rolex is trying to position themselves into AP, PP realm and pushing Tudor to takeover the void Rolex leave behind which means competing with Omega.
@laurens4561
@laurens4561 3 жыл бұрын
Heyyy Anna is back!
@Deusmecumest
@Deusmecumest 3 жыл бұрын
Last year Omega changed their prices in Canada at least 3 times. It was like scoring on a moving goal post, so I got a Tudor. If I buy an Omega it will be a second hand piece.
@lawrenceh7182
@lawrenceh7182 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Christian backed out of dissing Hublot to keep the door open on working with them in the future 😂
@chriszivoder2650
@chriszivoder2650 3 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious. Every video is like he is in an interview with a watch company. Nothing wrong with showing ambition but just don't get to wrapped up in it all.
@zachkockler4995
@zachkockler4995 3 жыл бұрын
I would listen to this audio as a podcast.
@davidyule1973
@davidyule1973 3 жыл бұрын
Omega have made such big strides over the last 5 years, Rolex through their arrogance never saw took enough notice, how all large entities fall from grace. It has finally dawned on Rolex that Omega are more technically advanced and they sell more watches (when you remove temporary flippers and watches people are forced to purchase by ADs to get the watch they want - a practice that cannot last forever). Rolex have no real answer for this as they have geared themselves up for lazy cash grabs over the next couple of years rather than innovation. This is basically like in chess. Your opponents queen is obliterating your pieces and you send pieces out you know cannot beat it but to buy time for the King before you get check mated. I personally welcome a changing of the guard as Omega have been King a lot longer than Rolex in the past, more horological significance ans they treat customers better. Rolex do not deserve the customers they have. I am not a Rolex hater, I have 6 modern Rolex in the collection but will kot buy another.
@TenaciousGeebs
@TenaciousGeebs 3 жыл бұрын
Interested on the ‘Omega sells more watches’ point. Is this opinion or based on fact?
@davidyule1973
@davidyule1973 3 жыл бұрын
@@TenaciousGeebs In between: Rolex in absolute terms sell around 300k more units than Omega. The process to obtain a steel sports watch involves people having to establish a buying relationship, the preferred customer nonsense. People get a call from their AD and then go in an buy a watch that they did not necessarily want in order to get closer to their Submariner or GMT purchase. This happens world wide and greatly boosts sales. Likewise, because of the value on secondary market many watches a year are purchased and sold unworn. The amount of unworn Rolex sat in grey market dealers around the world at any given time is phenomenal. It is virtually impossible that these two types of sales that are only occurring because of Rolex current temporary must have fashion accessory status do not represent 300k global sales. So my rationale is that more watches end up on the wrists of users under normal trading conditions which is the goal of any watch company and the only sustainable model. On this basis I view it that Omega have built the most stable watch business in the world by volume. Once attentions on social media change as we all know fashions change, nothing is forever, Omega will sell more units than any other brand in the world. Collectively Swatch Group have already beaten Hans Wildorf foundation in global sales (as a group versus group). Omega updates are pushing quality quickly northwards and for me, all Omega need to do is keep pushing forward with their current model and they cannot lose. The final market shift that Omega are waiting for will not happen overnight obviously, but we are only a few years away potentially.
@thegraciefighter102
@thegraciefighter102 3 жыл бұрын
Omega is also arrogant in its own way, endless limited editions and speedies and then ripping off Bond fans. Tudor has an opportunity to take massive market share from Omega
@rickfanning5647
@rickfanning5647 3 жыл бұрын
My $0.02 - Tudor taking on Omega is an effort by Rolex to portray the rivalry in the industry as a fight between Omega and Tudor for second place. Not saying that is, or isn’t, reality. It’s just my opinion as to how the brands are trying to portray themselves - and each other - in the perception of consumers.
@JacK-yr8ri
@JacK-yr8ri 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my speedmaster and my tudor black bay 58 in different ways. Love both brands
@JapanJacques
@JapanJacques 3 жыл бұрын
Christian, I think we can go one button deeper on that shirt 👕
@willkelly9282
@willkelly9282 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor will share this METAS movement with brietling in time to come. As Breitling did with the B01
@jhcowatchinglifestyle
@jhcowatchinglifestyle 3 жыл бұрын
I think you found the pitch, "Do you want a cheap Rolex, or an OMEEEGGGAAAA!"
@Ossory88
@Ossory88 3 жыл бұрын
So which one is Theo and which one is Harris?
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Theo and he's Harris
@tag22061
@tag22061 3 жыл бұрын
Checkmate, well played.
@charlestonpinballarcade
@charlestonpinballarcade 3 жыл бұрын
“Theo and No Buttons Man”
@AlexEarMusic
@AlexEarMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Christian: Omega should make a statement why their watches are worth double over the Tudor. Also Christian a few minutes later: Omega should not even acknowledge Tudor.
@danrussell_official
@danrussell_official 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are so fun to watch. Thanks gents.
@canonmanmart
@canonmanmart 3 жыл бұрын
Your price on Omega 300m is way off. List for that watch is $5200 US. Much closer to the Tudor price.
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
Ceramic version!
@saparicio89
@saparicio89 3 жыл бұрын
Christian, Love the channel, though you should use "we" instead of "I" so often, you have a team now! you are all in this game to win it ;)
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Thank you so much for following! And I absolutely agree with you. “I” would recommend a marketing plan to Omega/Tudor, but “we” would execute that plan.
@WristwatchAddiction
@WristwatchAddiction 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheoandHarris 😂👍
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 3 жыл бұрын
"Now a watch that...... *speaks* for itself....." "ouu hooo, that's why you're the curator" hahaha! another fab video!
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Tudor Black Bay and an Omega aqua terra and love them both.
@niccarnot4113
@niccarnot4113 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to my "get a room 😁" comment? Too risqué by the community guidelines I guess. Great content though, keep it up. The dynamic duo.
@steinb6271
@steinb6271 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you're even having this conversation shows just much success Tudor has in their marketing. I own an Omega SM and very much love it, but the simple fact that a watch nearly half the price of a comparative Omega has your panties in such a wad shows how effective Tudor has become...without really even trying. So much hand wringing for a brand that should by any of your measures be inconsequential....more and more free press for a brand that you would rather not acknowledge - but do!
@impoautosguatemala9847
@impoautosguatemala9847 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahaha
@TheJohnGalt1945
@TheJohnGalt1945 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here. No one cares about the movement certifications; people want clout. Omega has its own merits as a brand - cool designs, heritage, James Bond, etc. Tudor has none of these. Even though I like Tudor, it will (for the foreseeable future) always have that scent of being bought because you couldn't afford the Rolex.
@diavalus
@diavalus 2 жыл бұрын
I posted this message as a reply to someone else, so I will copy paste here as well: I do care if a watch is Metas certified as I know I can wear it at work on some days. The magnetic field I am sometimes exposed to is so high that most watches need to be demagnetized after that, not to mention they stop working properly and I still have to rely on other time tracking devices (smartphone is not allowed because it also fails, so you can imagine the hassle)
@matthewwillis9449
@matthewwillis9449 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Meta certified Omega 300M and out the door it was $5300…just get the stainless steel case instead of ceramic and it would be just over the price of the Tudor…I love my Omega…my next watch will be a Tudor GMT tho..
@joeythacker654
@joeythacker654 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno if this has been said… is the Tudor an entry for the Rolex family to get into Metas without doing it with a Rolex initially. They never jump into anything without their due diligence.
@jameschristie2206
@jameschristie2206 3 жыл бұрын
I think Hublot had the character Rinox from Beast Wars/Transformers in mind when designing that one. And for that reason alone, I absolutely love it
@roamy3605
@roamy3605 3 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong. I've owned about 10 of the most modern Tudor versions. I've always loved the Tudor's that have 3rd party movements in them. Give me a Tudor with an older A Shields/ETA when Tudor started, the ETA 2824-2, the Valjoux 7734/7750, and now the Breitling BO1 in the newer Tudor Chronographs. I didn't ask for these newer Tudor knock off Rolex Movements. I need Metas certification like I need another hole in my head. Yes Tudor, I get it. You've proved that you can do both Chronometer and Metas. Congratulations! Now make a watch with a Rattrapante Chronograph, GMT, and Annual Calendar, that has 200 meters of water resistance. And please keep the price under $7,000. Patek Phillip needs competition too.
@eazye619
@eazye619 2 жыл бұрын
“Its personal, its not business” - Don Christian Zeron of the Zeron Crime Family
@Sandouras
@Sandouras 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can buy a Sub (if you can find one) for double the money of a Seamaster and no certifications at all. Omega is above Tudor as a brand. With Tudor you're buying a VW to Rolex's Porsche.
@review4u88
@review4u88 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor is dog shit compared to Omega, the finishing on the Tudor cannot compare. I actually own a Tudor GMT and a Seamaster pro 300m ceramic.
@BrianSchoedel
@BrianSchoedel 3 жыл бұрын
But is it 2x better?
@review4u88
@review4u88 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianSchoedel I'd say so
@NoShame86
@NoShame86 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianSchoedel same question can be asked between Rolex’s Sports models and their counterparts from Omega
@satvik888
@satvik888 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor’s 2021 launches are better than ever. Moving away from being baby rolexes and towards having a more original design language. Never been more of a Tudor fanboy!
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Tudor hit the ball out of the park with their releases this year. Obviously, I still think they aren't close to Omega, but that doesn't diminish the fact they came out with some very nice pieces this year.
@eagles4757
@eagles4757 Жыл бұрын
tudor blows
@impoautosguatemala9847
@impoautosguatemala9847 Жыл бұрын
1🤢🤮🤮
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 2 жыл бұрын
How will Omega respond? The same way they have always responded: "if you take it now sir, I can give you a 10% discount.... Ok sir, I can do 20%.... Dont leave sir, we will give you 30%.... Sir, step away from the door, I will give you 40% off retail" And that, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why the Tudor is cheaper than the Omega RRP. And every time Omega discounts, they look like cheap crap in a grubby side market. Tudor are pricing to sell with no discount. Omega are pricing to look Rolex class but discounting to Tissot class. And Rolex - no one can get one anyway...
@chronokenny8499
@chronokenny8499 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad Joe Biden can't tell time anymore
@khoroshsabzi
@khoroshsabzi 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the cheapest Omega which is metas certified the omega 300m but the $4200 model?
@dgarrido3381
@dgarrido3381 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot beat case design and engineering from Omega.
@strapped2time
@strapped2time 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Rolex and Tudor designs are so minimal, I’m sure to cut costs. The Omega lyre lugs are perfection and more complex. The Omega movement is far better finished than Tudor and METAS is better than Superlative. I’ve owned the Sub and 50th anniversary Sea Dweller and sold them both. If you get passed being marketing and hype sheep, you realize that Rolex is just status and Omega is for enthusiasts.
@dgarrido3381
@dgarrido3381 3 жыл бұрын
@@strapped2time Tudor should have invested on the chrono heritage line instead of creating a chunky bb chronograph. I don’t dislike tudors, I own LHD Pelagos and bb eta black. In general is hard for me to gravitate towards Rolex brands. Materials engineering at Tudor is just weird. A silver 925 diver watch?
@strapped2time
@strapped2time 3 жыл бұрын
@@dgarrido3381 I don’t dislike them either, but I don’t believe them to have the street cred of Omega. They have fun watches, but no true history other than being the baby brother to Rolex. And Rolex is a caricature of what it once was. Now it’s fluff. All status and investment opportunity laden. 👎 I can get them from my AD, but don’t want them and don’t buy watches to flip.
@strapped2time
@strapped2time 3 жыл бұрын
@@dgarrido3381 I’ve owned a few Tudor as well. Not a hater, I just know where I place them… and it’s nowhere near Omega. Omega has better heritage and history and has done more and been around longer. I also believe Omega superior to Rolex. This is more opinion obviously. Omega for enthusiasts and Rolex for show. I’ve owned modern Rolex so I never have to hear haters say you don’t like Rolex because you can’t afford or get one. I can do both (at retail) and choose not to. For tool I go Omega and go up the like of Vacheron (etc) for haute horology.
@IStillLikeIke
@IStillLikeIke 3 жыл бұрын
Michael’s shirt is too buttoned. Christian’s shirt also is too buttoned.
@BabyJesus66
@BabyJesus66 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they make a good team. It evens out.
@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095
@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Speedmaster. I do a lot of hiking and when I do I wear a Yema Pearldiver, not a Tudor :p
@JasperSteenWinkel
@JasperSteenWinkel 3 жыл бұрын
What about Omega Railmaster? It is Metas-certified and much cheeper than the Seamaster.
@I_Hate_Registrations
@I_Hate_Registrations 3 жыл бұрын
It’s discontinued
@benediktd.8072
@benediktd.8072 3 жыл бұрын
Whats is that" "Oh its a vintage iced-out rolex. Thank you for asking" "That's a factory ice?" "That's a factory ice! This thing only appreciates" This would be amazing if it ever happened in real life.
@chrislee6691
@chrislee6691 3 жыл бұрын
To start great video. I agree with a lot of what you guys had to say but as far as Tudor is concerned I don’t think you can simply make the case that Tudor is just a cheap Rolex. I understand that was the idea at its inception, but Tudor is not the same brand today. I greatly appreciate watch history and brand history and that does inform my decision when liking and purchasing watches. For me it has a lot more to do with overall value for money. There are lots of brands that command premiums that use very generic movements and and really don’t represent a great value. I believe Tudor offers value in spades. When you consider that they collaborated with Breitling and we get the same tech at 2-3k cheaper it’s hard to argue with that. I like Omega a lot and I think the Seamaster 300m represents a great value overall. I’m also a sucker for chronos but I think it’s kinda sad that the majority of Omega chronos have a very weak water rating. Another win for Tudor, and they offer this advantage at nearly half the price of a similar looking and functioning sport chrono. From a value perspective alone I don’t know how anyone can argue with the popularity of Tudor being justified. I love a lot of different brands for various reasons and I feel with Tudor you get a ton of watch for the price.
@pranaviyer971
@pranaviyer971 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't Tudor getting back at Omega. It's the legendary rivalry of Rolex and Omega, reborn.
@johnhorrigan8205
@johnhorrigan8205 Жыл бұрын
Tudor is truly punching above their weight class. The Pelagos divers are what Rolex divers were in the 70’s, exceptional tool watches favored by soldiers and outdoorsmen. Speaking of the 70’s, I was a teenager then and that open shirt look was the calling card of a D-bag back then ,and is even more so now. Listen to your dad, sit up straight and button your shirt.
@Daniel-lg6cf
@Daniel-lg6cf 3 жыл бұрын
I feel Omega would really push the Seamaster on if they removed that escape valve wart on the side of it. Engineer in a nice button escape valve like the pelagos.
@miazoi7891
@miazoi7891 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the great white…. You’re absolutely right! 2538.20.00. The 3 link brushed bracelet also tops the cake (only downfall, it’s not adjustable).
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
I also hope Omega remove the escape valve. But i think they is their icon for seamaster. So i just try appreciate my Black Seamaster 300m & Blue pelagos 😊
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
@@miazoi7891 the new Seamaster bracelets are adjustable though. Be nice if they tapered though.
@broskies1
@broskies1 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2020 seamaster and the new helium escape valve is tapered towards the tip and you don't notice it. I had the same initial concern but once I tried it on, you don't notice it.
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@broskies1 Ohh mine is the 2018 one. It is also with adjustable bracelet. Love it 😊
@meltdowngrfx969
@meltdowngrfx969 3 жыл бұрын
The green Hublot looks like a Swatch Escape Jungle ($140.00)
@nickkind1
@nickkind1 3 жыл бұрын
In my view, Tudor will always be the Rolex's poor brother.... No competition with Omega.
@j.r.chen30
@j.r.chen30 3 жыл бұрын
Wrist go brrrr
@raulmehta9743
@raulmehta9743 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor just needs to properly remake the Ranger in 36mm or 38mm. That design has history and you can use its story to define the brand’s differentiation from Rolex. The 41mm remake they did a few years back IMO had an ugly case shape and was way too big
@ViolinistWilliam
@ViolinistWilliam 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor quality is basically you get what you pay for. Sorry not sorry. Save and get the Rolex you want, add the Tudor 10 years later during your mid life crisis.
@agibrahimmohamedali5398
@agibrahimmohamedali5398 3 жыл бұрын
That hublot watch was just... awfull. Is hublot the worst watchmaker of all time ?
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
Invicta says hello...
@salmana4239
@salmana4239 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and information. Biden is soo Speedmaster. Would love a discussion between Christian and Fredrico of Delray watches on GP Laurato. One smallish request, giggling at times get a bit distracting.( see the start of the video)
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 жыл бұрын
I actually just bought the Omega Railmaster. Omega just spoke to me and not alot of watch brand's do that. I just love the history of the brand. I'm definitely buying the Omega Seamaster 300 co axial 41mm in the future and maybe even the Speedmaster Moon wacth
@ensh888888
@ensh888888 3 жыл бұрын
Because Omega is attacking its big daddy Rolex
@dissident_mantis7
@dissident_mantis7 Жыл бұрын
As a relatively new watch guy, I am going with the Tudor Pelagos over the Seamaster. I just think the Seamaster looks dorky and outdated. It’s bracelet, waves on the dial, protruding helium escape and skeletonized hands all feel a bit corny.
@miabeatz80
@miabeatz80 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Selleck's closet is weeping....literally!
@paredair
@paredair 3 жыл бұрын
Anna!
@lastminute2607
@lastminute2607 3 жыл бұрын
So much hate on the Hublot brand on KZfaq it almost makes me want one. Stoked to hear some thoughtful perspective on the watches. Christian doesn't fear going against the grain.
@zachschlabach8928
@zachschlabach8928 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't Omega make a standard production run of their 1948 limited edition seamaster model. That watch just seems perfect.
@u.u.u9969
@u.u.u9969 3 жыл бұрын
That new Hublot is actually bad ass if it was a G-Shock.
@NicholasCFranklin
@NicholasCFranklin 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all gonna shit bricks when Rolex rolls out the Master Superlative Chronometer.
@SuperWhofan1
@SuperWhofan1 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I’ll lose sleep over it. Get a life
@jamesminshall4601
@jamesminshall4601 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the ceramic watches, it’s an easy win for omega. The Tudor looks to much like a black lump and will age poorly when you scratch the pvd coating. For other watches I prefer tudors as they are less flashy but I would rather buy an omega.
@SmurfPerfect
@SmurfPerfect 3 жыл бұрын
Christian. I need to introduce you to my artisanal button maker. Phenomenal, highly functional tech.
@dasmesser1
@dasmesser1 3 жыл бұрын
Does he have a Master Button Maker certification with amagnetic buttons?
@Albyilmago
@Albyilmago 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel guys, love the quality of the editing and the contents. Just do not be too snobbish…people should commenting the contents and discussing around them, not about your shirt man…do not force people focusing on you but on the channel..I think you got what i am saying here. Best, Alberto
@pumaadidas
@pumaadidas 3 жыл бұрын
Why should I buy a Rolex over an omega? Rolex reply " because we are Rolex" Why should I buy an omega over a Tudor? Omega reply " because we are omega plus we are not a poor's man Rolex" Job done
@andrewgiblin3468
@andrewgiblin3468 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect response!! Omega has cache Tudor meh!!
@miabeatz80
@miabeatz80 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!!
@Theewatchdad
@Theewatchdad Жыл бұрын
This is why I can’t stand Tudor. Always trying to be something they are not. I’d rather eat cup of noodles for a year and buy an omega or Rolex before I buy a cheaper Tudor
@handbagaddicted
@handbagaddicted 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the Tudor makes a great watch. I’ll never know because I can’t look it any of them and not think you got an homage Rolex and should have just got the real thing. Meh. It’s not shade, it’s just my opinion for me.
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 3 жыл бұрын
Critical questions demanding answers: Where is Anna? Why is Christian’s shirt so unbuttoned? Why is Michael’s shirt too buttoned?
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 3 жыл бұрын
I think he is trying very hard to stay ‘cool’
@bostoncollector
@bostoncollector 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor can knock it out of the park if they stuck to the tool watch side and Rolex discontinues milgaus, airking and some of the fringe watches to allow Tudor to take those over. More likely they will start adding precious metals to things and even try to improve their dials to compete with grand seiko and omega.
@lm1819
@lm1819 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor needs to thin the Pelagos like others have suggested. They also need to release the color option the left hand version has with the cream hands/indices and redline text/date in the right hand version
@singapore202000
@singapore202000 3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous! I think its so funny, your discussion suggesting Tudor not matching up to Omega. Tudor is Tudor. Superb. Omega was my dad's watch. Oh, he also had Girard Perregaux, so i cant fault him. Then you later bring up the Daytona million dollar diamond watch, as a paragon. i bought a Rolex factory day date with factory diamonds... not a Daytona, granted, but with that unforgettable special blue dial. wonderful look but too bling. I lived in Beijing at the time and the locals loved it. But absolutely no street cred at all with collectors. But also, more importantly with me, on reflection. I sent it back after two months. Bought a Tudor montecarlo chrono. The dealer who sold me the Rolex thought i was crazy. I couldnt explain. Tudor dead sexy. funny, i (much later) sold that too. Massive regrets. Now have on my wrist a simple rolex gold dress watch. simple and elegant style . am getting older, lol. But i would LOVE the new Tudor panda chrono. stunning But i inquired. there is a huge waiting list where i live. Tudor a cheap man's Rolex? Which planet do you guys live on?
@rudyelizondo1935
@rudyelizondo1935 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting show between Rolex and omega
@PanditaP
@PanditaP 2 жыл бұрын
7:25 omg why does this watch have the wrong size strap on it.
@franklinscott6221
@franklinscott6221 3 жыл бұрын
Did Christian forget how to button his shirt?
@MeZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZ
@MeZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZ 3 жыл бұрын
I srsly love these videos were yall just bs. Such good chemistry
@micksumo
@micksumo 3 жыл бұрын
The smp300 is better than the Rolex sub nevermind the Tudor bb. Where'd you get that price from? I picked up a smp ceramic for an excellent price even compared to Tudor.
@dspserpico
@dspserpico 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Biden’s watch collection is that of a regular guy who likes watches and ends up being fabulously successful in his life. I aspire to his watch collection.
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