How Should Toyota Remedy The Toyota Tundra Recall?

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Ай бұрын

There are some fiery opinions out there on how Toyota should remedy this Toyota Tundra recall. Today, we go over a list of possibilities. Which one would you consider the best route for Toyota, the Tundra and the customer?
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@BruceMacDonald-yr9rx Ай бұрын

Put the v8 back in the Tundra with the 10 speed transmission! 😎☃️👍👍

@mertz313 Ай бұрын

All I ever wanted

@seinundzeiten Ай бұрын

even the 4.6L V-*8 would be good

@nkyryry Ай бұрын

They killed this generation. The resale value has tanked. Dealers won’t take them on trade in. And now the previous gen has increased in price. There’s nothing they can do to sell more. But they can take care of the people who bought them. Lifetime powertrain warranty. That’s about it.

@RSHart-d5k Ай бұрын

Temporary

@G7130 Ай бұрын

Dealers won’t take any vehicle that has an active recall with no fix.

@damiangrouse4564 Ай бұрын

Remedy? New truck in exchange…fix the the take backs and sell them at half price or less with full disclosure.

@michaelmartinez9835 Ай бұрын

Bro what do you expect if you bought it in the last 2 years depreciation in the first two years is the most in all vehicles across the board

@jasonsantelli6588 Ай бұрын

That they did

@JRRR29-k1b Ай бұрын

I’m imagining an extended warranty or Toyota could likely face a class action lawsuit

@dmitripetrov5536 Ай бұрын

Like 6th gen Camry burning oil at 60k mills class action.

@Joe-cu4hi Ай бұрын

Bring back the 5.7L V8 and drop the price $15,000 to $20,000

@EdwardEimiller Ай бұрын

😂

@atg1338 Ай бұрын

Ignorance

@seinundzeiten Ай бұрын

good idea

@bsg1372 Ай бұрын

If we are dreaming why not drop the price by $30,000?

@drm197728 Ай бұрын

In my country we have toyota hilux diesel. I want my 2022 tundra with diesel engine in it 👍

@williamholsinger236 Ай бұрын

V8 ten speed and bring back the trd supercharger and include it just because that’s more reliable at this point

@Matt-tf1wz Ай бұрын

You can still by the magnusson supercharger for the tundra. And Actually Magnusson just came out with there new gen for the tundra. Lol its alot of fun

@kurtbeck5809 Ай бұрын

Why didn't they offer a V8 option at least for the short term?

@danoconnell5592 Ай бұрын

I purchased a 23 in September before the recall. My truck was manufactured in August of 23 so i didn't receive a recall notice but the dealer gave me a free no cost Lifetime unlimited mileage full powertrain warranty. Toyota needs to make this right and give every tundra owner a Lifetime unlimited mileage warranty

@fjorge4014 Ай бұрын

Wow!!!!! Thats exactly what’s needs to happen!!

@user-vh9hs4qe7r Ай бұрын

So is this the carrot? No they do not lose you as a customer.

@danoconnell5592 Ай бұрын

@@user-vh9hs4qe7r maybe but this was 9 months before the recall. I was doing a lot of haggling and wanted 10 thousand off they agreed to 8 thousand and a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty

@frankmoreno730 Ай бұрын

Bump in the road? Seized engines, shotty transmissions, workmanship defects and bad turbos. This is a train wreck.

@charliegermany9449 Ай бұрын

Totally!!!

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

The transmissions are built by the same company that made the older 6 speed, Aisin. The 10 speed is way smoother than the out going model. What makes you say the transmission is "shotty"? Do you have experience with it?

@christopherclark4774 Ай бұрын

More like Mt. Fuji in the middle of a single lane road. Lol!

@benhu509 Ай бұрын

It's funny how Toyota did the one thing that pissed off the majority of their core customers, that is now blowing in their faces.

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

True. But like it or not this new Gen is getting more people into a Toyota truck then before

@BillTrzcinski Ай бұрын

@@stevieray1828was getting them in. After this debacle sales will plummet!

@cheriebrewster7040 Ай бұрын

@@stevieray1828I have a hard time believing that. Jmo.

@glow4417 Ай бұрын

@@stevieray1828 not really, the new Tundra has a bad rep. And even though sales may be solid, there are a lot of concerned customers out there who purchased one and are hearing about the recall and bad experiences of owners. It's going to take a lot of reliable years for the Tundra to recoup its rep after this all over. Truck owners are more fickle, serious, than regular car owners.

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

@@glow4417 the Internet has a lot to do with it. The reality is the failure rate is still less than 1% and Toyota had initiated a recall that will most likely cost billions of dollars, and if they fix the problem it will show everybody that they care about quality and reliability. Everybody is freaking out, they need to get educated and CHILL

@WyLEE08 Ай бұрын

Buy back my 22’ with 11,750 miles, first motor oil & filter change at 950 miles and then changed another 3X’s, never driven in the winter no exposure to salt, fresh rear differential oil. FULL DISCLOSURE: it has door wind noise, there’s a risk of a gas tank fire no remedy yet, it may still move when in neutral, it’s plagued with recalls, is has NO tow hooks AND bonus the engine has milling debris trapped in the engine bearings! $62K and it all yours Toyota.

@waynehenson1094 Ай бұрын

Still driving my 07 5.7 Tundra since new. I'll wait.

@mysticjedi6730 Ай бұрын

When you take off oil filter cut it open and examine for shavings.. Consider oil filter magnets.. I would also go with a very high end oil filter such as amsoil.. Dude opening my rear diff I found a lot of break in metal on the magnet.. its kind of normal for bearing to deal with this.. Document all of this with pictures and receipts... Also change oil 5000 km for now... or maybe several thousand km max.. I would go with amsoil signature series for now and keep your receipts... I would also up oil viscosity from 0w20 to 5w30..

@MrNismopro Ай бұрын

From Toyota: “Heck no! We know how much we built it for!”

@ksorsomeplace Ай бұрын

Why'd you buy it? Sounds like it was missing items important to you.

@chrisjustice3999 Ай бұрын

Also I just don’t think it’s “debris” in the block milling. I think it’s a tolerance issue. The debris thing is a good cop out in my opinion.

@1jborron Ай бұрын

My local Toyota dealership has done 6 short block replacement and 5 have already come back for the same issue. This was in the past 6 months. Bottom line is, I love Toyota but they really screwed up this time. This is what happens when we let the EPA have so much control. We all know Toyota would’ve refined the 5.7 if they were able to do so and meet all the new emission regulations.

@ij2750 Ай бұрын

I keep saying the auto manufactures need to stick together and stand up to the EPA.

@1jborron Ай бұрын

@@rockcreekrockcreek6644 they also manufacturer a lot more trucks than Toyota… it’s all numbers Ford and Chevy can afford to take these hits. Ram obviously couldn’t anymore hence why they got rid of the hemi. No excuses just facts.

@Karmazov Ай бұрын

@@rockcreekrockcreek6644 They are producing those for now but I can guarantee you that in the near future they will be forced to get rid of those by the EPA.

@josevega23 Ай бұрын

@@rockcreekrockcreek6644How about dodge they really killed v8 😂😂😂By 2035 cars manufacturers can’t sell new gas vehicles in California ,The government is going to force all cars manufacturers to go electric or plug in hybrid by 2035,I don’t like the idea but that’s the way the future is going to be,Just buy v8 while you can.

@lvsqcsl Ай бұрын

They should replace the complete engine in EVERY '22, '23, and '24 Tundra. Period. GREAT VIDEO!

@dein45d Ай бұрын

You might see a reliable tundra again but how many people will leave the brand after three years of junk and never come back.

@mr.monkei Ай бұрын

Lots of people in the comments dont seem to understand what a "SAFETY" recall is. There will be no extended warranty. Toyota will have to either replace the engines. The recall literally states that affected Tundras is a possible crash risk. Gm, ford, kia, BMW, VW all had to replace engines in the past. Toyota can do the same

@marcuso3301 Ай бұрын

It's a tough call. I would say, Full engine replacement or buy back simply because of the loss in value.

@scottherman6000 Ай бұрын

I have a 24 and really do like my truck. It out performs the 2nd gen in about everything but I don’t trust it for the long haul like the 2nd gen. I would say extended warranties would for sure go a long way in helping me feel a little better. At the moment I feel like I have a BMW or something. Sell it before the warranty is up…..I’d love a v8 behind the 10sd transmission!

@bobwaldrop4948 Ай бұрын

Same here… build date 9/23 so I’m worried.

@marcrainville2731 Ай бұрын

Same here, my build date is 11/23 and I’m worried too . I really hope they give us extended warranties !

@glow4417 Ай бұрын

Yeah, overall quality of the new tundra is not good. Its not just about the engine failture, its the overall quality of the truck throughout.

@jerrykite9318 Ай бұрын

I have a 2022 1794 iForce Max that I got in September of 2022, on the cusp of being a 2023. This was my 4th Tundra, had a 2002, 2008 and a 2015 1794 Supercharged and I do not miss my 2015,, which was a great truck but my 2022 is superior in many ways. I live in Surprise AZ and haul a UTV and trailer many times a year north to Utah and Surprise being at 1296 feet above sea level and Flagstaff being at 7000 feet it is mostly uphill for 145 miles. My 2015 pulled the trailer and UTV well but trying to maintain the speed limit of 75MPH uphill it had to get in the over 4000 RPM many times and was screaming when it did so, my 2022 does this with out having to get in the upper RPM range to do the same, mainly around 2300, much quitter and comfortable not to mention almost twice the MPG than my 2015. When I purchased my 2022 I also included an extended warrantee for around $2000.00 minding that caution on buying a new model year. The technology in my 2022 is also most welcome from my 2015, safer in many ways and features that make driving it a real pleasure. Sure they, Toyota are having issues, same as the other big three but I would rather have issues with Toyota than any of them as I feel confident Toyota will resolve this as they have in the past. The issue with metal shavings in the pan is a human issue, someone let their responsibility for inspections down.

@doctordetroit4339 Ай бұрын

Japan has always made great cars. Their trucks are nothing special. Seriously, they aren't. I have benzes, Beemers, all manner of domestics and Japanese.....unless you are buying a car, not a truck......there is no benefit going with Toyota or anyone else.

@josephlondon5018 Ай бұрын

Toyota MUST offer FULL ENGINE REPLACEMENT as the remedy for the recall. Short block replacement does not address any debris that may have worked their way into the upper parts of the engine, Also what about all the other bearings in the engine that may have been exposed to the " manufacturing debris ".

@duncanpage1556 Ай бұрын

There is only one way to fix the recall and 2024 will need it also! And that is to replace the whole motor. But that sucks because you have to lift the body off the frame which means it won't be like factory ! shit will get missed guaranteed!!!

@michaelstewart9366 Ай бұрын

You do not I repeat do not want the techs at dealerships replacing these engines.

@kensnyder2340 Ай бұрын

They still have the V8 in the LC500 & RCF. The 5 liter V8 puts out good HP. A 10 speed trans, 3.50 gears in the Tundra would be a great combination, IMO. It would pair well with the new designed truck , too. 😄

@cloudypac Ай бұрын

Incorrect, the LC500 have the TT V6 since 2021

@kensnyder2340 Ай бұрын

@@cloudypac , I did not realize that.

@kurtbeck5809 Ай бұрын

@@cloudypacV8 in LC500, RCF, and IS500

@cloudypac Ай бұрын

@@kurtbeck5809 Your are correct, Im sorry @kensnyder2340 I have mixed the LC500 with LC300

@Living-The-Dream Ай бұрын

Why I kept my 2021 Pro……don’t fix what ain’t broke! and then charge thousands more for it. Amazing

@scottmendoza8989 Ай бұрын

Smart man

@Living-The-Dream Ай бұрын

@@scottmendoza8989 Thanks Scott…….don’t know how smart, but for sure, very happy 👍

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

Why wouldn't you keep a new truck?

@mikehughes8023 Ай бұрын

@@stevieray1828well for starters if the manufacturer doesn’t have a fix it plan for the recall issue then why would you keep it? That’s the question😒

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

@@mikehughes8023 he said this is why he kept his 21 Pro....I am saying why wouldn't anybody keep a new truck? Just sounds silly to always trade in for the newest model every couple years

@Weatherby406 Ай бұрын

200k mile powertrain warranty

@unclebilly1353 Ай бұрын

Thats crap! I exect to get a least 500 thousand on all my toyotas. It's not a Dodge Chrysler product for gods sake. People buy toyotas because of their reliability.

@Weatherby406 Ай бұрын

@@unclebilly1353most new semi engines don’t make 500k without a rebuild. Especially todays trucks. Only a small percent of trucks even make 200k. Less than 3% of Toyotas on the road have over 200k..

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

@@Weatherby406🤯 I guess perception is reality

@unclebilly1353 Ай бұрын

@@Weatherby406 i must be one of those 3% of the toyota owners . Lucky me

@gunsmokezz Ай бұрын

Ya techs will say , can not replicate problem or issue is normal

@rmb5858 Ай бұрын

Anything short of a crate engine is not a remedy.

@rhr1616 Ай бұрын

It's a safety issue - if I'm doing 70+ mph on the highway and the engine decides to throw a piston - now what? Hopefully I'm not in the passing lane and there is room and time to pull off. Purchase back or trade in my '22 reimbursed at my original cost.

@abw121 Ай бұрын

Toyota is just not listening to consumers about the V8? It’s a truck give me what I want!

@andrewboettcher9853 Ай бұрын

It’s all part of the climate change hoax. No more V8’s in a 1/2 ton trucks.

@ksorsomeplace Ай бұрын

Question: Can you test the oil/oil filter to see if there is evidence of an engine that likely has the issue? Would that not also add piece of mind?

@twisterbret Ай бұрын

I don't believe the debris issue. Full engines redesigned replacement and extended warranty. I'm a Honda guy and this is my first Toyota. They should make it right.

@Annihilator105 Ай бұрын

Agreed it’s a design issue. The main bearings have too much play, and are not being properly lubricated with oil. Check out the short blocks they pulled from the affected trucks, the bearings are not only scored but they are smoked. Main bearing is black, that indicates lack of oiling.

@trevorharley4475 Ай бұрын

Redesign is what will correct the issue because this is a design flaw. Unfortunately a full redesign takes way too much time and money. They'll never do it. Engine replacement is pointless. It's like swapping out a bad part for the same bad part. I've worked in the auto industry for 18 years and I can tell you they will do just enough to get out of legal/government trouble. Remember, it's not illegal too make a bad product, just a bad idea.

@christinoumel2291 Ай бұрын

Nothing short of full engine replacement. Then bring back a normally aspirated V-8;as an option in future models

@DH-mf2lv Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@stanburman9978 Ай бұрын

Really a great video today. Thank you. I am very glad that I have been a procrastinator about replacing my 2014 Tundra TRD Offroad that is chugging along just fine with a mere 120,000 miles. Regarding your list of proposed remedies to the current engine situation I would have engine replacement AND extended warranty at the top of the list. Going back to the much loved 5.7 L V8 would be great, but what is the situation with the assembly line that produced it? If it's sitting somewhere under care and maintenance that's fine. But what if it had to be recreated? That could introduce problems similar to what is happening now. Just a thought. I have confidence that Toyota can resolve the current engine manufacturing issues. The question is how long will it take? First they should take care of customers that have been affected with this issue.

@willytrouble88 Ай бұрын

I think they’re going to suspend production, buy back what has been sold, and redesign the power train. Story for context….back in the 1980’s, my family owned a Yamaha dealership. Yamaha discovered a defect in the engine design of the SRX440 snowmobile. They issued a buy back, and sent some techs to our dealership to load up the ones we had on the showroom floor. Before loading them, they literally took a sledge hammer to the engines and destroyed them. Unfortunately, the SRX440 never came back into production. It morphed into the Vmax 535 about 2 years later. So, I vote they will buy back these trucks and put them through the chipper.

@doctordetroit4339 Ай бұрын

Nope.....these trucks are not snowmobiles. Multiple that price by about 10x.

@willytrouble88 Ай бұрын

@@doctordetroit4339that’s true. However, not inconceivable that Toyota would offer a substantial credit on what’s been sold, recall all unsold vehicles, and replace all of the engines and power trains. Likely will need to suspend production for a year or more in order to pull that off. A full engine replacement for current customers isn’t feasible. Who would do this work? The dealers can’t handle this.

@leec440 Ай бұрын

I’m part of the group who wants nothing to do with new gen but still enjoy the videos. My 20 has 27k miles so hopefully I won’t have to replace it for many years but time will tell cuz I bought it used. For your question I say a 1:1 swap for new truck cuz apparently first batch is lemons.

@bobwaldrop4948 Ай бұрын

Full Engine. Replacing the block I’m not sure if Toyota is realizing the downstream affect. OTHER breaks will occur caused by this block replacement and it could end up cost not only their reputation but even more $$$ than just simply replacing the engine.

@jettdriver4841 Ай бұрын

going to dealer today for 15k service on my 2023 with build date of 2/23 but not currently included in the recall...pulling ahead my free 20k oil change and having them pull an oil sample I'll be sending to Blackstone Labs...no noise or engine issues so far...fingers crossed

@Can08-55 Ай бұрын

Fix the no recovery hooks on the front, put a real bumper on the back, do this and the engine. I might consider one for my next truck

@PaulDube-zj5zi Ай бұрын

They said 2023 up to mid February recalled, mine was built in March. Is it just a matter of time before they include mine? I have 10k on it, 1st oil change at 1k, then 2 more oil changes. So far no problems, but is it a ticking time bomb? I drive to Canada couple times a year but now hesitant.

@pjrodriguez9755 Ай бұрын

They should just give us all 21 pros

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

Haha when you get another 2021, and tell me you want to trade it in a few years, im not letting you 🤣

@Cbman375 Ай бұрын

I second that plus the diff on list price.

@mikehughes8023 Ай бұрын

I still don’t want it.

@chrisjustice3999 Ай бұрын

I don’t think an extended warranty only is an option with it being a safety related recall. My opinion is the only reason the Max isn’t in this recall is because they will still move if the engine fails. I believe in the future they will be listed in the recall also.

@Bunkysworkshop Ай бұрын

I am soooo glad I decided to keep my 2015 V8 Tundra. However I do wish they would give us a diesel Tundra.

@PEETY666 Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@pointbreak8293 Ай бұрын

I’d like to hear what ole Mike sweers is saying about this. It sounded like in an interview a few years ago, he really wanted to keep the v8 but due to epa regulations, there was really no way around keeping the v8 over the ttv6 even though it has been proven that the v6 is not getting any better fuel economy over the v8 from everyone that owns these ttv6. Im keeping my 2019 5.7 that runs like a champ…nice update as usual mark. Stay safe bro 👍👍👍

@JayMak1963 Ай бұрын

no mater what the dealer tech will get screwed ! the frame recalls were great. the short block pays about 26 to 30 hours. has anyone seen the amount of disassembly that is done just to get engine out? then tear down? short block should pay no less than 40 hours

@theedmondsept Ай бұрын

I have a 2018 and wished that Toyota had the option of the V8 for this new Gen 3 Tundra, I absolutely love my V8 sounds and fun factor.

@Enchanted3DPrints Ай бұрын

I think the new tech and new look are both awesome. I have a 2019 and am upside down in it so was never lkooking to buy the new gen but hopefully they fix it because one day I might want one. I really think ill just stick with this truck until its worn out in another 10-15 years

@maccooley3451 Ай бұрын

buy them back. pay now or pay by killing the reputation of the truck…possibly the brand. short block is not a fix for debris that might be throughout the entire engine. it’s not just the engine that has problems.

@andrewweaver4801 Ай бұрын

What about all the extras people have added to their trucks? They will never account for that.

@theofficialpeterkim Ай бұрын

Lifetime warranty on those engines. Just stand by them. My ideal, which will never happen, drop off a Lexus 5.0 V8 engine for the TTV6.

@dennisadams2240 Ай бұрын

Dont engine replacements involve taking the bodies off? I would push for full buyback.

@Nevets007 Ай бұрын

Holding on to my 2019 1794 edition till I die

@STEVENVU-on1hg Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, I experience couple times loss of power for my 2023 Tundra. I bought it first week of Feb, 2024. I will drop my truck to the dealer next Tuesday and not sure what the dealer will do with it.

@ryliecarter3308 Ай бұрын

Buy back option. Then engine replacement + extra warranty. I like the 6 turbos for gas savings as we are on the road a lot

@shanewhittemore Ай бұрын

I am getting 20 MPG on my 2024 I-Force Max Limited compared to 13 MPG with my old 2016 Tundra. Nice change as along as it's reliable and now that is a big question mark???

@JBSmoke1 Ай бұрын

I have driven Toyota trucks for the past 40 years for one reason - bullet proof quality. I'm now driving a 2020 Tundra TRD Pro and I love it. It seems to me that Toyota lost the sauce with the new gen in changing too many things at one time. I think they should have kept the tried and true V8 for at least the first couple of years. Toyota's reputation IS QUALITY. I sincerely hope that they make good on this recall and get things right. Their reputation rides on this.

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

Well said sir

@jamesharvey6030 Ай бұрын

Wear is the “I FORCE” short block because there are so many different models of engines under this recall??

@HANS-tb4me Ай бұрын

Long block/ full engine should be do if needed. Opt of V8 sounds awesome

@teamkrugg446 Ай бұрын

Full engine replacement with 120k warranty. Bring back the V8 but fix the fuel economy issue.

@Kdavis8377 Ай бұрын

Toyotas 4.6 bullet proof engine of today had 200,000 motor recalls in 2010. They’ll get it right. I’m more concerned about the cheap fit and finishes than I am motor issues in the future. They need to give 100,000 mile warranties on the motors and anything associated with the oil to save face.

@OhioStateJK Ай бұрын

Is the recall for all trims or is it for SR5’s and up? Is the SR effective?

@doom4067 Ай бұрын

Right now they're not recalling the hybrid engine under the concept that it can make it to the side of the road if the gas engine fails.

@user-ed9vn6tk4s Ай бұрын

Totally agree with you Toyota should’ve had the v8 option and I would’ve traded my 2018 I agree with the other comments v8 Oh and by the way it’s not the govt regulations Toyota chose to stop the v8 because if I recall it’s 40mpg across your fleet to keep selling Doesn’t mean kill the v8 means add back something like the Prius etc I hope Toyota is listening bring back the v8 and double cab legroom and turning radius !! All we ever wanted was new tech makes me so sad 😢

@ksorsomeplace Ай бұрын

Maybe there is another choice: Bring out the Tundra Classic. Produce the old model right alongside the new one.

@WoodisGood82 Ай бұрын

I cant see Toyota replacing 100,000 engines. Thats $2-$3 billion on the low end. I suspect they will extend warranties, or refund anyone that purchased extended warranties. I have a 24 Platinum and its the sweetest truck I have ever driven!

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

I would think, if this were the route they went, the affected Tundras with the actual issue, full engine replacement. Everyone under the recall with no issues, extended warranty. Thoughts?

@scottmendoza8989 Ай бұрын

Yes until it falls apart

@jasonwright3667 Ай бұрын

@@TundraDude34I don’t think the government will allow them to solve this via warranty extension since it is considered a safety issue.

@josephlondon5018 Ай бұрын

I think you would have a major problem if your engine failed. I hope your truck dodges this bullet. To me, the only options would be FULL ENGINE REPLACEMENT or buy back at full price paid !!

@NoToBigBro Ай бұрын

@@jasonwright3667 They already did with the rust issues on Tacoma and Tundra in the 2000s. Why would the gov't do the opposite now??? Many, many, many American autoworkers would lose their jobs.

@chancecaskey4255 Ай бұрын

They need to bring them all in for oil analysis. Drop the pans. Inspect the pickup screen. Scope the motors where they're prone to failure. If an issue is found, full motor replacement. Extend warranties to full coverage as long as you own your vehicle and refund your warranty if you bought one. And give free services for as long as you own it. That's gear oil, engine oil, and trans services. As well as coolant replacement. Compensate people who have paid out of pocket based on their tundra failing. As far as bringing back the V8. I say its never gonna happen until they can get a v8 within current emission standards. Let all just agree that we'd all rather have the Hilux lol.

@RichardZ06 Ай бұрын

yes i got thetoyota extened warrenty they can pay me back I agree Idid change oil at 900 miles and 2500 just to be on safe side

@johnseewald1530 Ай бұрын

I have a 2022 Tundra Hybrid 1794. It has had both waste gates on the turbos fail at different times. Those repairs were beyond frustrating. Three weeks each time, as it is a cab off fix. 😢Now this. I have added a leer camper, winch, lift,lighting etc. costing thousands of dollars making this truck into an overlanding rig. At this point I’m screwed. This truck isn’t part of the recall because as I understand it,it isn’t a safety recall issue because the hybrid part of the system can safely get you off the road. But it is the same 3.5 twin turbo v6 that is in the other Tundras. As a lifelong Toyota buyer I’m angry and bitterly disappointed. Now every time I drive the truck, I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop. When you go way out into the middle of nowhere pulling an offroad camper and your engine fails. Who the hell is going to tow you out? It is now officially the single worst financial mistake I have made on such a large purchase. The only thing I want Toyota to do at this point is offer Full lifetime drivetrain warranty,with towing paid for by Toyota and not my insurance,wherever the truck might be when it fails.

@williamholsinger236 Ай бұрын

If they want to get rid of any future problems it makes sense to stick with what works and do the ten speed. I’m sure it would definitely entice some former ram fans.

@ksorsomeplace Ай бұрын

I always hear emission mentioned. Would be a great topic to do a deep dive into. I look at the stickers and the emissions don't vary much and neither does the fuel economy. So, why are these emissions such a factor in engine choice?

@peterwolf2832 15 күн бұрын

It all has to do with the CAFE standards that are set by the federal government! Saving 1 mpg per vehicle means nothing to you and me but saving 1mpg to the car manufacturers means everything to them in order to meet the CAFE standards! Just think about how much more expensive it is for them to add twin turbo chargers to a v6 engine than it would have been to have kept the almost Indestructible V8 engine that they have been using for years? So in all fairness every car manufacturer has their backs against the wall trying to meet the year after year increase mpg CAFE requirements! Now the CAFE requirements for light trucks have been in effect since 1982and back then the mpg requirement was 17.5 mpg and as of 2020 the mpg requirement for light trucks was 31.0 mpg! Now just think about a 5k pound truck driving 31 miles on a single gallon of gasoline? The car and truck manufacturers have an unimaginable task trying to meet the year after year after year increase in mpg to meet the CAFE requirements set by people who have zero automobile experience! The only way to give the CAFE folk who are simply asking for the impossible to save the planet and democracy is to simply stop building a single new car or SUV or light truck until Congress and the EPA learns how think rationally! 31+ mpg for a truck and in 2024 cars have to average 45 mpg! It’s like driving your gas powered lawnmower 45 miles on a single gallon of gas! lol. Insanity!!

@kakarotto4star Ай бұрын

Best thing would be to recall everything they have to and extend the warranties to give people peace of mind

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

Peace of mind is key here!

@GlenGGonsalves Ай бұрын

I went with a 2024 4 runner… It’s a dinosaur but I’m hoping for the reliability we know and enjoy.

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

The 4.0 V6 is a forever engine 🙌🏼

@srandyt2 Ай бұрын

I agree with the "replace the engine" AND "extend the warranty", with conditions. Cannot just replace just a short block, unless you want to see the truck back when the metal laying in the top end washes back down to the crankcase. Conditions: inspect all the engines and immediately replace all the ones that have metal present. Ones with no metal should be subject to some reasonable interval reinspection. As for the just put a V8 back in it, there could be some compromise reached by putting in a 4.6 like the one in the GX. Surely that thing could be tuned to put out more that 302 hp. Caveats: do you trust any dealer to give you an honest result. They have to allow some interaction with the owner. Can you trust just an inspection of oil drained from the engine, or do you need to see the oil screen in the pump inlet screen?

@Robert-2 Ай бұрын

If anyone remembers the Tacoma Frame rot issue. They replaced the frame or gave you a 1.5x KBB retail value. So I’m hopeful that they will make this right.

@maurocalvillo9764 Ай бұрын

So if we get a new engine, what would the odometer read? 0 miles?

@doom4067 Ай бұрын

Only if they roll it back, which they're not going to do.

@redroosterranches Ай бұрын

I kinda like the idea of just a straight swap on the engine. It does seem to be the easiest. I know everybody would love to have the V8 back, but I really don’t honestly see that happening. The engine itself at this V6 comes from the Lexus LS 500 originally is a very reliable engine. It’s just unfortunate that this problem has come up.

@scottmendoza8989 Ай бұрын

No you're wrong about the LS they still have problems to this day with that motor

@redroosterranches Ай бұрын

@@scottmendoza8989 google search shows only recall on that model year is air bags issue and a Reddit consumer reliability shows satisfied owners and if anyone is going to shit post its Reddit.

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

@@scottmendoza8989let's see how Toyota handles the manufacturing issue before making judgements on the motor. The engine performance is great, and hopefully they get it right.... If they don't and we get FACTUAL information on the DESIGN failing, then that sucks. Until then, we need to look at the facts and stop listening to people pretending to know what they are talking about and people spreading misinformation based on wives tails and rumors.

@redroosterranches Ай бұрын

@@scottmendoza8989 not sure where my previous comment went to, but as I was saying, the only recall notice on the model year of LS 500 that this engine is based on is about air bags not deploying on the passenger side. A quick Reddit search shows no engine complaints over longevity for that year either and if anyone is going to crap all over a product online it’s going to be on Reddit, plenty of trolls.

@doom4067 Ай бұрын

I strongly doubt they'll go back to the V8, but I wonder if this will create a significant aftermarket for a V8 swap.

@gatordunn Ай бұрын

I bought an extended warranty, do i get my money back if Toyota offers extended warranty? How would that work?

@fjorge4014 Ай бұрын

Full engine swap !!!!! That would make everyone happy!!!!!! Toyota needs to take care of us loyal customers!!!! Thank you for all your hard work!!!🙏🏽

@ksorsomeplace Ай бұрын

One thing about it, likely not all 98,000 and some odd thousand are affected. It would be great if they could narrow down the included VIN's.

@williamsmiley16 Ай бұрын

Well i traded in a 2019 tundra for a 23 tundra limited trd off. 100% satisfied with the 23 over the 19. 0 issues with mine until i watch videos like this lol

@fredsickert6268 Ай бұрын

I’m part of the recall and I think Toyota will make it right for there customers. But if they give us extended warranty will they give me money back because I bought an extended warranty. I do love my 23 Tundra it’s a really nice truck.

@jeffrymcallister2789 Ай бұрын

I’ve been a Toyota truck fan forever but I hope they fix all issues with thier trucks cause I love the Tacoma most of all not that I don’t love the Tundra I do love it too but I hope they get the bugs out and I would be happy

@frederickeily9617 Ай бұрын

Buy back would be the simplest for everyone because if the dealership has to replace the engine there will be a back log and errors may be made

@MrMaz111 Ай бұрын

I'll be happy if they bring back the 4.7 V8.

@NateGage-rr7zh Ай бұрын

Should I feel comfortable with my 2024 Platinum? Literally bought it the day the recall came out, it's less than 2 weeks old. Never had a Tundra before so I'm not sure what to do. Thanks everyone.

@stevieray1828 Ай бұрын

Hit any sweet jumps with it?

@AlexKosanovich Ай бұрын

You should have 30 days to return it !

@pullingguard5435 Ай бұрын

Suddenly, my switch from my Toyota tundra to my 2022 F150 Lariat power boost doesn’t seem like such a bad move

@kingprince005 Ай бұрын

I’ve spoken to the Toyota corporation and I was informed that a buyback option is in the works, what I told them is that I would prefer them to buy back my vehicle, so they are looking into doing that. and they wanted to know if I would be interested in trading to a newer year and model. Also told by some technicians that this new tundra is nothing but problems, and I should trade it in as fast as possible. So at the moment they gave me a rental vehicle for a month and we will see where it goes after that.

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

Keep me updated

@michaelstewart9366 Ай бұрын

I want the v8. I’m about to purchase a Chevy or GMC bc they have a v8. Wish the tundra was a v8.

@jahedberg Ай бұрын

I don't have a Toyota Tundra, but am in the process of considering one. The primary reason is their reliability and their ability to address a problem in a timely manner. I would prefer a V-8 and that's why I am considering a used 2020 or 2021. I am also considering a 2024, with the potential for a deal and no miles. Out of your options to address the recall, I have my hand up for a V8 with a 10 speed. Knowing that the earliest they could manufacture those units would be a 2025 later in the winter or early spring. Thinking from a corporate perspective and dealer as well, buy back the units or take them as trades, and then ship them to a plant to specifically do the engine replacements. Then back to dealers to sell as a Toyota Certified vehicle to reduce the overall warranty impact to their financial statements. Plus it may win back the loyalty of those current owners who are on the fence and the customers who may be hesitant about stepping into the Toyota family.

@Tr0utp0nD Ай бұрын

I think the best end game is that Toyota comes out with a 2nd generation V35A-FTS with a beefed up bottom end, make darn sure that something else will blow before the bearing quits, even if not necessary from an engineering prospective.

@nitroholik35 28 күн бұрын

I'd honestly love for a full engine replacement plus and extended warranty. Would not mind a buy back for a newer Tundra either.

@dustinmarazzito8963 Ай бұрын

Full engine replacemet for all years and extended warranty. But not until the fix all the issues. This may have been brought to light early by engine debris, but i think it is say there is an issue with the main bearing. They need to revise the design of the main bearing. Which they could and should do.

@johnshaft5613 Ай бұрын

I think everyone knows what Toyota "should" do. At a bare minimum, completely new engines (long blocks) in every affected vehicle. I'm just afraid there are so many vehicles involved that it would be too much of a financial blow to them to do so. They might eventually come to the conclusion that they have to take the hit and do the right thing to remain viable as a company. But Toyota will only be dragged to that point, kicking and screaming.

@alexleschhorn Ай бұрын

Does the v8 fit on the 22?

@joelcade1569 Ай бұрын

they can remedy it by giving all 22-24 tundra owners a free V8 engine up-fit under warranty. Nothing less will do.

@seinundzeiten Ай бұрын

will the old V8 engines fit in the new body design of the 2024 Tundra? If it fits, it might be a good idea

@joelcade1569 Ай бұрын

@@seinundzeiten IDK of any serious engineering solution like that (yet). I do remember hearing the Gen 3 truck frame rails are slightly narrower than Gen 2 truck. But BMW make a small V8 that fit in the M3, and there is the Supra BMW collaboration. ... also I can't se that lexus V8 being too much larger.....Even though I suggest it and wish it could happen, Toyota will burn itself to the ground before they ever put a v8 back in the tundra. Hopefully they reign it in but it looks bad for now. I can't imagine what this will cost them, plus toyota japan just got caught forging emission data....quite the downward spiral......

@MajorRaynor Ай бұрын

I am waiting for them to add the hybrids to this recall that were built at the same time.

@kurtbeck5809 Ай бұрын

According to one youtuber there are a few cases of hybrid engines failing

@ejesoriginal Ай бұрын

I guess it is a good thing AFE is making aftermarket tow hooks for 2022's and up...

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

I have them! 👍🏼

@philiptarnaski1667 Ай бұрын

All of the above 👍 and of course the V8 👍👍

@user-wu3eu2be8e Ай бұрын

Mark they should give you a tundra luv ur channel and as far as I’m concerned bring back the 5.7

@TundraDude34 Ай бұрын

If they did, can it be a 2013 Rock Warrior? 😁

@user-wu3eu2be8e Ай бұрын

@@TundraDude34 yes luv the rock warrior !!!

@kalbs89 Ай бұрын

Regardless of options mentioned, the recall is there because of SAFETY. The warranty extension or even a vehicle replacement doesn't meet the fix, main reason of the recall, the problem has to be fixed before the trucks should be on the road. The only option is a engine replacement or proven fix. I do not believe the 5.7 or the parts vendors have it still in production or are the lines set up for it's installation.

@GrifFungin Ай бұрын

4:24 A full engine replacement will show on a carfax and willl lower resale value even further. Plus, removing an engine and replacing it will never return your truck to “new”. There should be some cash to customer involved as well.

@everybodystaycalm5090 Ай бұрын

Toyota should take all the 3.4 turbo engines and replace them with the 5.7 v8.

@charliegermany9449 Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t retro fit without redesign but would be great idea lol

@mikehughes8023 Ай бұрын

Currently the government regulations don’t allow that since y’all voted blue 4 years ago.

@VroodenTheGreat Ай бұрын

The FIRST thing they have to do is admit what the problem ACTUALLY is. Stop making them. This isn't rocket science. EDIT: Also, stop making them in Mexico for $7 an hour and selling them for 70 grand.

@craigmoody3812 Ай бұрын

Where is this reference to Mexico coming from? Tundras are made in the US

@VroodenTheGreat Ай бұрын

@@craigmoody3812 As soon as I pressed send, I knew I messed that up. I was waiting for someone to call me on it. I was thinking of the Tacos and they aren't 70k yet, but give it a year...

@livingadreamlife1428 Ай бұрын

I’m a hardcore Toyota guy from way back and am now driving my 7th Toyota vehicle. That said, the issue Toyota is having is that they sold a defective engine product to their consumers. Anything short of a full engine replacement leaves the current Gen 3 Tundra owners at a negative trade-in value in future years. I don’t think “buy back” is a realistic option for Toyota. Agree with those who say that the V8 should be an option. The most important thing people should do is vote the Dems out of office in November. They are the numbnuts that have created this fiasco by penalizing manufacturers, and ultimately consumers.

@kurtbeck5809 Ай бұрын

I agree 💯

@hardmtnbiker Ай бұрын

Personally I’m not deterred about the recall. I’ll be looking for a bargain on the new 2024 or wait for the 2025 Tundra. Why not?

@JohnSmith-dj5gf Ай бұрын

Toyota needs to first stop production then identify if this is a design issue. If so, they need to retool and either replace the long blocks or do a buy back. They may be forced to do buy backs under state lemon laws.