Toyota needs to extend the warranty for all Tundra owners up to 100k miles for the engine.

I passed on the Tundra specifically because it was the first year with a new engine. F150 is on its third generation v6 turbo by now, always safer to skip the first generation.

I feel like the 5.7 Tundra might be the best one they will have ever made.

If engines from 2 different plants in 2 different countries have the same failure it seems more likely to be a design problem rather than a process problem

I'm really wondering if Toyota is telling the truth about the engine issues. I'm thinking the engine might be a bad design.

Longtime Toyota owner here (4th and 5th gen 4Runners and 3rd gen Tacoma). I was in the market for a full-size pickup this spring and ended up purchasing a 2024 F150 5.0 Coyote (5.0L V8) SuperCrew. I'm in love with it so far. Terrific power. Terrific V8 sound. Smooth ride (much more planted on the highway than my Toyotas). No turbos, engine debris, poor fit and finish, broken axles/front diffs, etc to worry about that seem to be plaguing the new Tundra and Tacoma and leaving them piling up on dealer lots. Large dealer discount (5% below invoice) and low interest rate (3.9 for 60 months from Ford), while arrogant Toyota dealers in some places are laughably still trying to slap market adjustments well over MSRP. The Ford is not quite as tightly built as my 5th gen 4Runner, but it does seem on par or better than my Mexican Taco, which felt very tinny and had a transmission with ADHD. I really feel that Toyota swung and missed badly with all of the latest generations of its trucks (3G Tundra, 4G Tacoma, and soon to be 6G 4Runner). People always expected bulletproof reliability for a fair price from Toyota, and they have absolutely failed with the new turbo trucks. Things went bad, and quickly, for Toyota since 2022 when they abandoned their principles. It's really a shame to see a once great brand crumbling before our eyes. This will take some time to fix, and it won't be easy. They need to clean house in Japan and bring in some leadership that know what they're doing. Then they can get back to being Toyota.

This was a bit of a sugarcoating. Catastrophic engine failure is a far more serious recall than what we generally see even with new roll outs. Also, there are already reports of new 2024 trucks having the same engine failure- the assumption that newer trucks aren’t affected and the issue was corrected doesn’t look to be accurate. We need to stop giving Toyota free passes on their quality because we previously knew them to build reliable vehicles- it’s pretty clear they have slipped in that regard.

My 2022 platinum tundra lost its transmission at 20k and lost the engine at 34k if you saw the number of engine and trans failures in the new tundras you would steer clear of them

I do not want any of these turbo charged over stressed engines. Give me the 5.0 liter in the Ford and 5.7 in the Tundra. I have written off GM and Dodge. I own two trucks. I have the 5.3 liter Vortec prior to the ACMS system and a 4.8 purchased because it did not have ACMS. I keep hearing this is mandated by the government. Let’s change the friggin government. What is better for the environment? A vehicle that lasts 75,000 miles or one that lasts 300,000? There is pollution and energy costs that go into each new vehicle. Many of vehicles sold today are short changing the younger generation. My last Silverado had 385,000 and was still going strong but needed another transmission. A new owner put in another transmission and I saw it back on the road a week later. I know that simple is better and all the fancy poop that they are putting in trucks today will be a problem tomorrow.

Bought a 2024 1794 Tundra a couple days before the recall... traded it in last weekend for a 2024 Raptor. Took a small hit but I have 0 regrets so far

IMHO Toyota did not include the 2024 Tundra's because the dealership could not sell them with a active recall. That is OK because they are no longer selling 2024 anyways.

Having a main bearing fail is not the same as having a rattle in the dashboard for a recall. I feel sorry for the owner's who will be taking a huge financial hit, if they go to resale or trade the truck in. Fortunately, Toyota isn't a player in the full size truck market so fewer people will take the hit, but it still sucks for the Toyota owners.

I got a 2024 Tundra just twelve days before the recall. I feel like I’ve been duped. I know the 2024’s are currently not included on the recall but something tells me I’ve made a BIG mistake. Thank God it’s a leased vehicle.

Over 60k for base ford. And you say it’s a good deal. One of us is insane.

My thoughts of a main bearing failure are that this can turn out to be a very difficult fix, it’s serious.

I was all set to buy a new gen Tundra back in early 2023 but decided not to because I followed this guy who might have had the first engine problems. No one believed him but for some reason, I concluded that the guy was genuine and honest. I ended up getting a Ram Rebel 2022 for a really good deal and so far, I love the truck.

Six months ago I bought a 2019 Tundra Crew Max 5.7 with 42K miles for $35K. It may not have all the fancy tech but it’s reliable and paid for.

I haven’t seen Toyota make a mistake like this since they introduced the 3.0 V6 in the late 80s that blew the head gasket.

I bought a 24 GMC Sierra 1500 6 cyl turbodiesel and super happy with it. Mileage is incredible and the entire truck feels very high quality and well put together. I'm averaging 23mpg around town and got over 30 mpg on my last road trip

I'll just keep my 07 Tundra for a few more years :)

people dont seem to see the fact that it is not just the tundra, it is also the lexus. these blocks are made in 2 completely different factories across the world from each other and yet having the same debris issue? not likely. there are things that toyota are not saying here. this same engine is inside the brand new gx550 too, so, toyota/lexus NEEDS this engine to work and not give them issues because if not it will destroy their sales and business on pretty much every flagship model. this is sad because even after "fixing the issue" it still happens yet again and again over and over for most of the affected vehicles. This is to the point that the dealerships are refusing them on trade in but they sure arent refusing to sell and advertise them everywhere to everyone though. This is sad from toyota and needs to be made right more than just fixing it and more than just a public apology that means nothing at all from the owner/ceo of toyota/lexus

I don't want to own a truck that is a ticking time bomb...I want to be able to go anywhere without fear or anxiety that I may get stranded somewhere...

I've written ad nauseum about my thoughts at this point, but I'm still adamant that the problem is not (solely) machining debris, but the bottom end design converted from car use is not structurally/mechanically adept for use in the trucks. One production run I could buy debris issues, but at that point, those engines will be 'factory tainted' via start-up to load them on the transporters long before they ever touch ground on a dealer lot or a customer driveway. Three full production years (the '24s are also failing, just not covered as of the present) point at something much, Much more dire. Worse yet, rebuilt engines are still failing two and in a few cases, Three times. That could be design or even material failure, or dealer techs just really, really suck at doing hardcore repairs. An argument could be made for repeat business from the scummiest of dealers, but I doubt anyone wants to do that job dozens/hundreds of times like they are facing now. This is all on top of the lesser existing issues like the turbo wastegates going premature, transmissions of poor quality, rusting body panels from lousy installation, the door seals falling apart... Toyota's got a stout mess on their hands.

Somethings never change, always change oil on a brand-new engine within 500 to 1000 miles, no matter what the manufacturer tells you. It's likely the mileage intervals for oil changes are influenced by the marketing team, trying to one up the competition.

Wow… This is probably one of the most honest reviews I’ve seen in quite a while! I still have faith in Toyota to turn this thing around… hopefully they come through for their loyal consumers.

Hot take: Chasing more MPGs will destroy Toyota's reputation as the most reliable brand. On another note the issue with this recall is it might involve engine work, if you know how they pay technicians at US dealerships you'd rather get rid of the car.

As someone that owns a 24 Sequoia, I love it. Toyota seems to take care of their issues. What about GM with the lifter issues? They aren’t recalling any of those. I hade a 22 Tahoe that had a lifter failure at 3000 miles and numerous electrical issues. Fords V8 has oil burning issues. They are doing about it. 1-1.5 quarts every thousands miles is acceptable to Ford. Cam phasers in the V6 is still an issue Toyota has had issues with frames,engine, and other issues in the past and they find the issue and fix it. The 4.6 and 5.7 also has issues. Doesn’t seem anyone else is like Toyota when trying to find solutions.

David, what about all the recalls on the 150? Why should anyone trust any Ford product? Recall after recall after recall....

You neglected to mention that poor design is replicated as well. Bad design in Japan would be duplicated in Texas.

Great to see someone who is not either a fanboy or a hater of any particular brand.

Ford offers the 3.5 Ecoboost engine as well as the 5.0 liter Coyote V8 as engine options. Why couldn’t Toyota offer the same as Ford? They could use that new Aisin 10 speed transmission and PI/GDI technologies to the 5.7 3UZ-FE engine. Toyota will take a hit on their reputation for such a poor marketing decision.

Thanks for the video information. Very helpful.

David, in '22 I chose the F-150 over the Tundra and I couldn't be happier with my choice for all the reasons you mentioned. It has great on road manners. My biggest criticism of my F-150 is the paint. It's the worst I've ever had in a vehicle. Can you do you paint thickness test please?

Love my 2018 Tundra, will keep it forever

It’s all about trust. I don’t think any 2022-2023 Tundra owners have it any more.

reason : shitty engine design

Great video...I love my 2024 1794 Tundra. Hoping and praying it's not part of the 1% affected...

I would consider a Titan while they last.

Everyone saw this coming. Early adopters were basically testers to confirm the quality problems and engine problems.

Love your channel, so much interesting information! My wife and I both drive cars built in Japan, 4Runner and GR Corolla. My reasoning was those would be built better than in the USA. I still have confidence those two will last, but I was scared away from a Toyota truck with the recent drive train changes.

Thanks for the video David. Is it possible for you to tour the Toyota engine factory and also describe the process the team goes through to solve problems such as the engine debris issue?

We have a 2014 4Runner. Lifted, 33's, winch, dual batteries, fridge set up to Overland. Old 4.0 V-6 156,000 miles and going strong. We are now towing a 4000 pound off road trailer. Like the new Trailhunter, 65-70K,(expensive) 4cyl turbo hybrid, not sure about the drivetrain. Would love the extra torque and fuel economy. Will probably wait until the 2026 model year to make sure there are no teething issues. We plan on keeping it a long time.

I was a week away from buying a 2024 Platinum when I saw the recall. Canceled my reservation right away. I’ll keep my 2022 Frontier with a V6 that won’t explode or shut down when I’m doing 80mph on the highway.

Informative, rational and technical explanations that are reassuring to me as an owner of a LX. Thank you, David!

My 2008 Tundra has 119k miles on the odometer and a 5.7 under the hood. I'll have this truck until the day I die and it will still be running well.

Don’t trust anyone that says it’s only $61,000 and that is ridiculously cheap.

David, you mentioned in a previous video the new platform had room for the eight. Solution, bring back the 5.7 or even a diesel.

After two tundras,I’m going back to GM trucks after all the recent issues along with the huge price increase!! I feel like one gets a lot more for their money with GM/Ford especially the interior quality

Good review for the F-150 David. I own one and you absolutly nailed it.

when a horse power and torque is extremely high result of turbo, crank bearing can be damaged.

David, Thanks for the review, that had to be tough for you. What’s your thoughts on the new GX550? Would you delay in purchasing with the engines being almost identical???? Also, what is the extended GC holds on many of the GX550 and LC???? Should we be concerned especially with Toyotas lack of transparency on the possible issues and all the speciation building?? Thanks

I’m a Toyota man too. I’d pick the F150 over a lot of other vehicles. Not only other trucks

Superbly Done

Dumped my 22 Tundra for F150 STX 5L.

That’s what happens when you change things. Things change. While volunteer recalls are standard it’s the nature of the recalls that sounds alarming. How can you properly fix something that concerns engine design?

The 2025 Ram 1500 3.0 I6 TT are already having issues as well. It seems all of the snaller displacement turbo engines are having issues. I believe the blocks are contorting causing issues in the bottom end with the bearings and crank

The hybrids are not counted in the recall because it is a safety recall and if the engine fails in the hybrid it still could have power to propel the vehicle to a safer location. I expect this recall to grow. Some reports of 2024 model year trucks being affected too which aren’t covered under the recall.

Toyota needs to listen to is customers

Sure glad I purchased a new 2nd generation 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof naturally aspirated 5.7 liter V-8 and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission

This is why I bought a new 2021 Tundra back in Dec 2020. Last year of a 14 yr run with Toyota improving every year. 5.7L V8 naturally-aspirated power and extreme reliability. And zero recalls, unlike Ford F-150’s.

Just got a 2024 Nissan Titan XD 5.6 gasser. No turbos, no auto stop/start. Simple, tried and true. Vastly underrated truck. Under stressed engine, smooth transmission.

I doubt its a metal debris issue. Its more to do with a deaign of the main bearings and perhaps the crankshaft

I saw a 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser 70 at the Toyotafest in Long Beach, California a week ago. It has a turbo charged V8 diesel engine. That is what I want. Toyota is forced to jump through a regulatory gauntlet here in the USA to produce lower emissions vehicles. 2 Million Land Cruiser 70s would have no impact on climate.

Nissan Titan is the best bet for reliability until it gets discontinued in August

design problem. there is no possible way the machine debris is the reason when no other manufacturer has this problem.

It is actually mostly a main bearing oiling problem. That is very difficult to fix without a new bottom end.

Just traded 2020 f150 for comparable 24 GMC. I had gone back and forth between GM and ford every 6-8 years. I can say with confidence after just owning 2 f150s back to back that the GMC doesn’t quite stack up. I knew what I was buying but I found myself annoyed by some deficiencies. A couple of examples, the app to monitor and start the trucks are free with ford and $15 per month with GM. Slightly less power with 3-4 mpg less. Those were the ones that really got me but the other small things add up. Who knows which one will go 200,000 miles but it really doesn’t matter because I won’t keep it that long.

Years from now i bet it will be found to be the main bearing change that is the issue. Thee change from 4 to a single bearing failed and that caused the metal all over the engine not the machining process

I’m sure Toyota will figure this out but I’m going to wait a few more years til the Tundra is reliable again

I took one of the first Honda Ridgeline’s off the line in 2006 and drove it 450,000 km with no issues. I wanted to trade up to a Tundra from a 2017 manual Tacoma I have but I think I’ll stay put.

And at 80k how will the overstressed turbo be

David I think it goes back to what they had mentioned in one of your presentation in 2023. That issues will pop-up and that owners should consider that and with later iteration of the Tundra generation those recalls should be taken care of. I think time will tell once more detail comes out whether was a manufacturing process or design fault with the new engine.

Lot of trims on trucks is there to extract the most money out of the customer. Trucks are now awfully expensive and useless. They barely fit in parking spaces and consumption is middling at best.

Have there been any recalls on the 2024 Tundra?

What’s concerning is it happened up to 2 years ago and apparently it was corrected as it doesn’t affect the ‘24’s. Major work is/has been done to these engines requiring the whole engine to be removed. People have been without their trucks for weeks according to KZfaqrs I have seen. This is not a ding, but a major dent to Toyota reliability.

Finally!!! I was waiting for you sir . Thank you 🙏🏽

I was considering a new Tundra. I went back the tried and true 2018 1794 5.7 Tundra with under 22,000 miles on it. That should last me a decade or so

I trust toyota even if they having sum problems, what ather company would replace the frame on a 12 year old tacoma toyota did they stand by their products...

when one comparison the bottom end girdle of the Tundra with aluminum and the bottom end of the for FORD 2.7 iron. YOUR EYEs will tell you the bottom end of the Tundra is not stout with bracing while the FORD has iron and a ton of bracing MY EYEs tell me Toyota got cheap and the stress of the turbo and crank and bearing is NOT STOUT enough and the bearing Is failing from wobble…. I AM SURE YOU KNOW THIS and MY EYEs tell me the Tundra was UNDER ENGINEERED creating failure

My dad who was a Toyota master tech for 37 years talked me out of buying the 2022 tundra. He told me never buy a new model when it comes out. Wait a couple of years to work out the issues.

Does an engine replacement get reported on carfax?

Not a good start tundra. But tundra in early years of all gens have had problems. What sets tundra apart is lack of change. Ford led all manufacturers in total recalls last year. Highest ratings from JD Powers, NHTSA, Consumer Reports have Ram ahead of the others. And Ford cost cutting concerns me. No rear wheelwell liners, plastic oil pans, door panels look cheap. Where is Ford cutting corners that we cant see? I do like the aluminum body. I guess they all have issues. What about Titan?

Have any of the affected vehicles been repaired and back on the road?

Plenty of hybrids are affected but they don’t need a safety recall by law necessarily because the hybrid motor can give motive power to the vehicle so it won’t stop abruptly on the highway.

I like how some people are blaming the bloated tech and EPA mandates on the problem with the Tundra. It has nothing to do with either. It's like they didn't even watch the video. It's simply horrible QC. That's seems to be the biggest issue in the industry. Whether it's driven by bean counters pushing production too hard or just the workers themselves it's seems to be the biggest issue. The good news is that it can be fixed...the question is do they want to fix it?

What is your opinion on the Nissan Titan vs Ford with V8 ?

David, how many Toyota Execs & Engineers committed Seppuku over Tundra Recall?!? Understand these Issues all Automakers have so why I'm seriously looking at Ford F150 instead of new model year Tacoma, need a couple years to work out the kinks first! Sonsei who's owned Toyotas all my life except for a 1986 Ford Ranger who's Wiring Harness caught fire and was Totaled! Love your Videos and trust your knowledge and expertise so might try Ford again when I pass my Camry to my teenage son here soon! Would love to see a Video on Subaru 2.4 Turbo Boxer Engine we have in our '23 Ascent and that also comes in the Outback XT & Wilderness

Hi David, You're the best 👌

Can you do a review on the cheapest f250? You can get a off road package ear locker with lots of options under 60k

Should we pass Land Cruiser and 4Runner too ?

Could you go over Toyotas most reliable used SUV/Truck All Stars in the past such as the Fj cruiser, Tacoma, Tundras. I know there is usually a group of years where Toyota has perfected these specific years/models. To prove Toyotas reliability and reputation. To also give us other Toyota options from the bullet proof used vehicles series

Great video I was always a Tundra fan till this new gen that front grill I hate then all the other issues like the price

Can you do a video on the gx460 vs the gx550?

Have 2024 models also had this problem?

AutomotivePress can you speak to the what you think the ford f150’s longevity would be like compared to when Toyota was still actually true Japanese?

I was considering the LX600 now I’m stuck waiting until this is solved.

Appreciate your honest and candid opinions. I have always resisted being an early adopter of any car. Invariably, things come up with these very complicated machines. I feel confident that Toyota will make things right. I remain a fan of Toyota, I have owned a lot of other name plates as there are some other great cars out besides Toyota. Toyota is still one of the best for sure.

Two words: Andon cord. To be honest it seems like there are problems with the quality of everything made after/during COVID. I also would not underestimate the impact of stopping and starting production like many of these auto manufacturers have done to manipulate supply/ demand. When you stop production you are allso decreasing the amount of experience that all of your staff have in making the vehicle. I dont think its without consequences.

Hi Dave, I have some inside concerns about Ford as an automotive company. I used to work for a supplier of Ford several years ago and while they preached Quality all the time in reality it was a different story! At times when they were very busy and they needed parts to supply their assembly lines Ford would take questionable parts knowing fully that these parts could pose problems for the customer down the road. Our plant would also make parts for Honda and they would NEVER accept questionable parts knowingly. This is why I wouldn’t buy a Ford or GM or Chrysler! I have mostly owned Honda and Lexus cars and haven’t had any problems but I never bought a car in its early production stage but models that have been a few years in production.

I have 2 24 Tundra's, a Limited & a Plat Hybrid, both with extended warranties after owning Sequoias & 5.7 Tundra's. . BUT as my F150 neighbor says "maybe people will pass on stealing them now" ....