And the managers at GIDS in Tavistock refused to hand over data. That is criminal when they are hiding medical abuse.

Yep, yet their denial was at the expense of vulnerable people - they are legitimately responsible for elements of the harm caused just like those in the medical field who lied to themselves/ ignored their Hippocratic oath in favour of herd behavior. We should honestly be reviewing the medical licenses of the lead doctors involved due to their sheer disregard of people's well-being - this whole thing has operated as an experiment on kids effectively.

Exactly. I totally agree with you.

Mengele loved gender experiments on kids too

capitalism

And kelly jay keen

Absolutely.

Definitely Kelly Jay Keen , the despicable behaviour she and her family have endured is reprehensible!

We do

Yes

And what reason do they give for not being able to act when schools and libraries indoctinate children!!!??? People are making so much money out this abhorrent cruelty to children.

The entire government should be replaced by decent, honest, well informed people. Andrew Bridgen as the only exception.

​@@roslynaubrey7766 it,s all by design , new puppets same agenda .. ssdd😮

No, they aren't. Stop lying. This whole video is lying and doesn't know what the hell they are talking about, just like Cass isn't. She has made countless of recommendations that seems to suggest she doesn't know what the Dutch model she is riled up about actually entails. By the way: she didn't research anything, she looked at countless research papers, and discounted a lot of them for not having control groups, which is very common in medicine, but obviously was very easy to use as a weapon now, hoping to abuse a severe lack of knowledge regarding medical research that the general public tends to have.

@@maggieattenborrow6725 How? Hormones are not exactly profitable drugs, and with the amount of transchildren that start taking them at 16 (less then 100 each year) you'd almost wonder how much money they are able to make with that... Or is it that it's not about the drugs and simply about fiercely hating transchildren/transpeople and wanting to have a scientific sounding basis for discrimination, hate and transphobia, hoping that she is not going to be pictured as someone who is viciously hating a group of people she never was allowed to treat anyway? Puberty blockers are also used for another group of children, but I don't hear you spouting conspiracy theories about those... I also don't hear you spout conspiracy theories about cis-women and their hormones, which is also odd: according to you giving people gender-affirming care is a biiiiig business... Yet somehow I feel that with a total of less than 100 children each year, there's a bigger profit to be made somewhere else... I wonder what it was......maybe opioids? Like, that is still an actual epidemic and very much a conspiracy in which money over people's lives was the more important factor and balance...

As Helen Joyce has said, it’s a godless neo-religion.

Yep, basically its gential mutilation for the middle classes.

Oddly enough, I agree that cult is too soft a word for what has been going on. Common sense has been peer pressured into this madness.

It’s nothing short of abuse and exploitation of children by parents, educators, government bodies and politicians. Anyone who advocated for this whilst the greater public were shamed for speaking up should be held accountable and punished.

​@@kittyroo9294No, the number of poor, ill educated, 'working class', transed, is stunning.

Why are you talking about trans people here? This is about euthanasia.

Law suits that then are paid by the tax payers Hurrah! (not in all cases depending on country)

Yeah agreed

The Cass review was an amazingly unscientific dishonest and deceitful transphobic screed. And at the Kite interview below Dr Cass back pedals and takes everything back. thekitetrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Cass-Review-Mythbusting-Q-and-A.pdf

Sadly lawsuit is the only language politicians and corporations understand... There will be so many lawsuits, class action lawsuits and numerous politicians and doctors going to prison around the world...the number of lawsuits will be financially crippling for many hospitals, states, provinces and nations

Identify as an asylum seeker. I hear they have it pretty good.

@@TheOfficialPatriarchy It’s fun to make a cheeky joke, but at the end of the day, you know damn well that you wouldn’t want to trade places with an asylum seeker. Someone who will never in their lifetime accumulate the wealth that you have, but are here in the hopes that their children might have a chance. If you were born into the situation they were, you’d be here seeking asylum too. You’re lying if you say you wouldn’t. If you’re unable to have a bit of empathy when looking at the situation from this perspective, there’s really no hope for you.

@@dewilew2137 Preach all you want, I do not even believe most asylum seekers are seeking said asylum on legitimate grounds. They are economic migrants abusing the system to invade richer countries and we all know it. This steals valuable space and resources for legitimate asylum seekers but blind virtue signallers are too naive to realize when they are being taken advantage of.

Finally...... I'm not alone....😅

@@dewilew2137 Most asylum seekers are economic migrants abusing the asylum system under false pretenses. Only women and children should be allowed to seek asylum. Fighting age men should be required to stay in their country and fight for its freedom.

Indeed. And we, rightly, deny minors the ability to consent to adult relationships... Yet, as you say, with no consideration at all, they've been given carte blanche to ruin adult relationships for the entire adulthood to come - in pursuit of something they couldn't possibly understand and which the clinicians responsible for caring for them abdicated responsibility for due diligence.

Can you even be regarded as an adult if you never went through puberty

It is the main branch (?) of the de-population programme. A form of mass sterilisation, but presented as a teenage adventure.

@@mountainsofmourne I can't honestly believe it is... Not least because it wouldn't achieve anything - westernised populations are already generally struggling to maintain themselves, it's only immigration and the breeding of recent immigrant demographics that are preventing population declines at the national level. A bit like the drives to net zero - it'd be completely ignoring the basic facts about where the most carbon (and population growth) is being generated, ie: in countries that have no interest in western concerns.

@@keycuz This video is about euthanasia.

If you tell me you’re crazy, I’d believe you. If you tell me you’re normal I wouldn’t believe you.

I hope all these doctors and surgeons get sued.

@@llkoolbean4935 I hope everyone in existence gets sued therefore the courts will spend years delivering justice

Why are you talking about this? The video is about euthanasia.

​@@Gay_Detransitioneryou must have some very potent crack Nancy.

"Right wing talking point" has become a thought terminating cliché, they think it's a magical phrase that ends the argument lol.

Far right!

Yep, they already are

Alt right

@@Ben-zr4ho I don’t even think the distinction is being made anymore. Everything arguably to the right of themselves is conflated with FAR right. You just have to say “that’s a thing right-wing people would say” for the thought terminating cliche to do its work. You are then relieved of any obligation to try to understand what is being said, gauge whether or not it is or is not true or valid in its own terms, and respond to it. Once you can label it as “bad person talk”, you don’t have to engage with its substance at all.

@NorthernObserver - You could also take it back to radical feminism.

As a gay man I agree

What they have done to these kids is as irresponsible as the opiate epidemic

@@jaykay0401And remind us what they were saying about gay men in the 80’s

@@thetransagender2866 ain’t the 80s now

There was big Pharma money pushing this in the U.S. Weak men let this happen. If men don’t restrict liberal white women from running roughshod over society they will destroy it.

Well said. How on earth could anyone believe this nonsense and why did the majority who knew deep down this was nonsense stay silent and for so, so long.

@@joce11 It's all like the South Sea Bubble of 1720 where there was a mania of financial speculation - where money was lost. it is a form of mass hysteria.

I think one of the issues with these parents is, they were never taught to question these ideologies. Throw in the Mother of the Year Award Running 2000-2024 Jeannette Jennings and well there you have it. Some people emulate what they see in the media without questioning.

With enough marketing, people become convinced of anything. Look at Brexit. And there is insane money in this.

tHIS VIDEO IS ABOUT EUTHANASIA

Kellie Jay Keen and the Let Women Speak community have been vocal about that. I never hear anyone else bring it up, it needs more spotlight.

@@NiaLaLa_V Gee...I wonder why it's not been brought up more... Maybe because it's not true and a conspiracy?

They haven't: the amount of lesbian woman has actually been doing fine in the UK, just as it has been in The Netherlands...

Mass Hysteria / Social Contagion... 🙄

@@ME24689 When something social like this suddenly jumps 3000% over a period of just a couple of years? Oh yes. There is every reason to consider that possibility.

@@ME24689 This video is about euthanasia.

@@ME24689 Lisa Littman's study has been debunked hard. But thanks for showing you don't care about factually accurate science, just like Cass doesn't.

@@patraic5241 Did you try and find out the rest of that graph you pulled this number from? No. You'd see that there's a stabilization and a decrease after 2016. But that didn't fit the narrative of "LOOK AT THIS INCREASE THAT'S EXPONENTIAL AND SOUNDS MORE SCARY IN PERCENTAGES!!1" Because the amount of transboys increased from like 8 to 272. The graph you are referring to by the way also only shows referral rates. Not treatment rates. But as usual, transphobes like to abuse statistics without really understanding what they are really talking about, just as they tend to rarely know what the treatment process entails...

The fascinating thing is that Cass tried in her report to be unbiased, so it's not even "one side" being heard - it's just the evidence and the facts that are showing it was all a bunch of madness It just so happens that one side was working with facts and evidence but the other side was based upon feelings and ideology

@@marcus.H Cass is biased as fuck...she never researched anything, she just looked at many research papers and discounted a lot of them for being "bad", mereloy because they are lacking control groups. And that just happens to be a very common thing in medical research, because in most cases, doctors know that not treating someone will lead to more disastrous outcomes, and is considered the actual unethical thing to do. Cass also ignored precisely the papers that found positive effects of treating transchildren. Next to that, if she was only concerned about the drugs involved, why is she now heavily advocating against treating children? Because there is this other group of children that transphobes like to remain eerily silent about: children experiencing precocious puberty, getting the same drugs, the same physical health screening as transchildren, yet, ONLY in transchildren these drugs are dangerous? Tell me how that's not a bias? Tell me how that's not a former pediatrician hoping to cash in on the massive lack of knowledge the general public tends to have regarding these drugs? Also: With her now retaliating against trans adults: Tell me how that's still about "a concern for the children". Tell me how that is not about downright hating transchildren, merely because a gender identity health service was concerned patient-doctor confidentiality was going to be revoked by Cass due to the tremendous amount of transphobia in UK politics. Transpeople who have a succesful story (as most of them do after being treated with these supposedly superharmful drugs) were also interviewed by Cass, and have spoken out for not seeing any of the positivity in the report regarding them. This shows a bias again.

It is not one-sided: Cass is just blatantly wrong. Also, you don't seek out the information of a direct contact of Ron DeSantis to get some guidance on making your report. Guidance meant to know how to do as much damage. Cass is eerily silent about these other groups of people receiving the same drugs: Children experiencing precocious puberty. People receiving treatment against endometriosis. People in cancer (prostate- and breast) treatment. People in IVF treatment programs. But yet somehow, they are fiiiiiine there. That to me shows it's not about the drugs, but about hating the children that get it. Otherwise she should've spread the same panic about those other treatments. But she didn't. She even retaliated against trans adults receiving healthcare. That also shows it was never about protecting children, it was all about viciously hating them, so much that she wants to impose her personal ideas on how hateful these people should be approached throughout a big part of their life. Which includes treating transpeople from their 17th to their 26th as children...you know, when people have been of legal age for 7 years already... It's not difficult to see how easy you can draw a parallel with how the abortion debate is typically held: women are called emotionally unstable and "influenced" there as well...

Big bags of money. ☹️☹️☹️

They just get a salary in the uk

Disabled? Just like children experiencing precocious puberty receiving the same drugs were made disabled? Just like people in IVF treatment, treatment against cancer and endometriosis were made disabled? I mean, it sure seems Cass singled out a particular group of children she doesn't like instead of actually being worried about the drugs involved: I never heard her getting riled up about all those other treatment goals...

*Consenting adult women wanting to get their tubes removed because they know they dont want kids. Doctors:😬Absolutely not!😤 *Gender non conforming and gay kids struggling from feeling pressure to conform to gender roles. Doctors: 😃Great!! Let's get you sterilized!!😃😃

Good!

I've been seeing that and I'm glad. As much as I'm worried about my own country (the UK), I'm even more worried about Canada which seems to be far ahead down a very dark path. I hope this helps turn things around.

The idea that true things must not be said if somewhere there exists a person you don’t like who might enjoy hearing them is (a) ridiculous, (b) totalitarian and (c) precisely how we got into this mess.

Any politician, therapist, teacher, parent etc who actually cares about children, and vulnerable adults would be wise to watch the four part Swedish documentary "The Trans Train" about the Karolinska institutes GIDS clinic and how "trans activisim" has extremely harmful implications for children worldwide, but especially for women in places like India, The 4 part documentary "Dysphoric" is a must see.

Yes, and I hope this will start waking up more Canadians to the truth about children transitioning.

So many gay men say this. My nephew included. It’s transing the gay away! Which is what Kathleen Stott said which got her hounded out of her job. She was basically an apostate then. Thank you!

@@angelawest9759lol, “trans the gay away”. I’d rather “pray the gay” over that anyday

Yes, this cult is horribly homophobic and misogynist.

@@xanander4693well clearly that’s not worked 🙄

And how are we going to help adult casualties come to terms with this lie and betrayal of trust? Knowing several family members caught in this insanity, I''m very concerned.

😂 What drivel

@@thetransagender2866 No it's not. Also, the fact your username is essentially 'the trans agenda' tells us all we need to know. Enjoy it while you can, because the pendulum is starting to swing back the other way, and it's going to be biblical. People have had enough of your bullsh*t.

@@thetransagender2866 Hardly. Your constant aggression toward and mockery of women proves it true. It's a fundamentally misogynistic ideology.

@@thetransagender2866 You can choose to remain ignorant, and part of the problem, or you can wake up and look around you, and be part of the solution.

@@lil-al Or you could just believe what the Christian funded anti trans you tube channels tell you

They need to absolutely lose charity status! 🤨

They should all be in prison!!

How were lobotomies allowed to happen?

Stonewall is still receiving government funding. ThIS must end. NOW.

Has anybody here actually talked to a trans or queer person and asked what they want or what their experience has been? Or is there just a lot of cis people discussing issues they have no first hand experience of? Much like how abortion rights often get decided by men.

How many children each year, according to you receive this "social contagion treatment" resulting in the "chemical and surgical butchery of preadolescents"?

Yeah, but it's not progressive

Probably don't want them back...Don't want mine. There will be no accountability, it'll just get swept under the rug like people's actions during the 'pandemic'.

@@cometczar This video is about euthanasia, why are you making it all about trans people?

Sad to say😒😒😒😒

I mean they still seem to have the lock on "Community Manager" positions

Very good point 👍🏽

The same way suddenly there was a bunch more left handed people when it was socially acceptable The same way more autistic people are being diagnosed these days The same reason mental health issues seem more common These things have always been there, there just wasn't the social acceptance or understanding to talk about them These people have always existed, they are often just erased from history because they are a minority. Think of how women's history was erased, when they are 50% of the population, now imagine that from a group much much smaller than that.

​@@Greylobstersuicide rates for trans people are astronomically high, you can look them up yourselves. Also, the detransition rate is less than 1%, I don't know how exactly you come to the conclusion gender affirming healthcare is harmful when that's the case. The detransition rate would be much much higher if people were falsely encouraged to change their gender.

So when I was 8 I started to experience feelings of gender dysphoria, and those feelings only strengthened as I went into my teenage years. However, around the age of 16 or 17, those feelings went away-not entirely, but *almost* entirely. People need to wait and for *most* kids who experience gender dysphoria it will go away... but that's not how the trans movement gets more activists, so PUMP THOSE KIDS FULL OF HORMONES!!!

​@FayeWildhart where is your evidence for that statement? More trans people commit suicide years after "tranistioning" an oxymoron if ever there was one. Wherexard the supposed bodies of the thousands of trans people who committed suicide? The studies are non existent somyour statements make no sense. Children have been lied to, parents have been lied to, teachers are lyjng, doctors are lying and the pharmacy industrial complex is rolling in the money that is full of castrated, mutilated children's blood and body parts. The contempt that mermaids and stonewall have had for the public should mean both are defunded and closed down now, before any further harm is done

This video is about euthanasia

Yes the kids not given enough guidance and support from their parents. Kids need discipline.

Parents heard from multiple sources (doctors, teachers, social workers, all over the media) that, in the case of "gender identity", the child knows best.

​@clovermark39 I feel like kids these days are all Eric Cartman and the moms are all Cartman's mom with not a strong dad in sight.

There is shed loads of money to be made out of Childs issues!!! Any charity that you want to support should be investigated as to where the money is going.....first of all, look at the CEO's salary, that will indicate so much. Childrens lives has been the least of fake charities concerns. Always follow the money!!!!!

‘Now, as found fathers, Having bound up the threat’ning twigs of birch. Only to stick it in their children’s sight For Terror, not to use; in time the rod Becomes more mocked than feared; so our decrees, Dead to infliction, to themselves are dead, And liberty plucks Justice by the nose; The baby beats the nurse, and quite athwart Goes all decorum.’ ‘Measure for Measure’, William Shakespeare, 1604 People complaining about their kids is nothing new. Best to stop imagining everything is worse now than it ever has been.

There could be some huge legal cases in the future I hope the managers have saved up for some lawyers.

Absolutely agree! Allowing people to have official documents that lie, is very strange indeed. And it empowers the mentally disturbed, fetishistic, individuals.

@@SunYellow-zh7vx And all while other countries have this legislation in place, it has not lead to a noticeable rise in abuse statistics.... But thanks for using an extreme-right talking point to show how little you care about our rights. And also how you'd love for us to get in trouble by having to be forced to use the men's restroom. Along with, indirectly also strongly suggesting that we need genital inspection police near every bathroom and changing room. Grow up.

How many children are treated each year according to you?

They were betting on the gullibility of a more frail and weak mind. They went for the young, from kindergarten to university, they taught them WHAT to think, instead of HOW to think. I asked my partner recently to describe her Uni experience to me, and I was appalled. There is a 6 year gap between us. I was educated in Asia, and she is doing hers in Europe. Apparently, in her studies they mostly learn about progressive theories, it’s mostly theories, there are trigger warnings everywhere and they can opt out if their feelings can’t handle it, courses have „open objectives“ (no set goal to work or improve towards, you are graded on an ambiguous and subjective metric) their debates are not debates because it is an echo chamber, opposing thoughts and ideas are silenced or given a biased perspective and quickly dispelled for being racist, sexist, transphobic etc. They are being taught to see in black and white and are blind to the nuances. They learn so much about oppression, on all the ways the world is oppressed. Culture this, race that, gender here.. it’s exhausting. If her opinions get questioned it turns into „I just want everyone to accept my views without questioning it, it is so emotionally exhausting to explain“- it sends red flags popping all over. I am very concerned for her and can only hope that entering the work force and experiencing real life will get her out of this delusion. We are reaping what we sowed. We were too tolerant, too nice, and now too afraid to speak out against it and call it for what it is.

So, all those children experiencing precocious puberty who were treated with the exact same drugs still entered puberty? All those people in IVF treatment who got GnRH antagonists (what puberty blockers are really called) are not experiencing the drug preventing the ripening of eggs? All those cis-girls and cis-women taking the contraceptive pill have not paused their hormonal cycle by artificially keeping up the estrogen levels so that the body doesn't release an egg and prepare the body for fertilizing of this egg and the dividing egg eventually nestling in the lining of the uterus? All those children at risk of becoming so tall it'll be detrimental to their health possibly getting the same drugs administered still grew problematically tall? All those children at risk of having their puberty blocked BY THEIR OWN BODY (something they were concerned about when I was young, causing me to go through the boy-girl transchild puberty screening basically) can't be treated with medication to get around that situation? Because if so, it sure as hell seems like you are better off with a doctor explaining to you that your medical knowledge is based on very troublesome personal views that in no way resemble reality...

@@maystrehmel4615 "We are too tolerant, too nice". Explain to me how that sounds anything but "We need people to grow up with more hatred towards them, we need to bully them much more than we already do!!" All that with transpeople typically already experiencing a lot of hell for being trans... Tell me how I should view that any different than that... This is insane.

@@Dutch3DMaster but that is not what I said. You are inferring malicious intent when there was none. I am not advocating for more hate, what I mean to say is that we should all dial back on the moral relativism. I am saying that people need to be taught to think for themselves, that we need to be an honest society again and not one that constantly coddles and affirms. People wouldn‘t be so fragile and constantly offended if they had a stronger sense of self. If we care about someone, we tell them the truth. If we only want to help ourselves, we tell them what they want to hear. The snowflake generation does need to grow up, but it doesn’t mean the way I want to do that is by feeding them to the lions. Being honest and truthful is not synonymous with hate. Now to your next issue: the real transgenders should be filtered out, they should be helped, and we should find out how to best help them. It shouldn’t be politicised, nor taught in schools so it doesn’t become „trendy“ and create false statistics.

@@Dutch3DMasterWould it be safe to assume that you got emotionally triggered? You are misrepresenting my views.

There has been. There definitely has been. And just like my national news broadcaster in The Netherlands failed to do it's job on the report, the BBC also wrote about it in one of the most critiqueless fashion I have ever seen. This report is biased as fuck and should've received some serious backlash from an organisation like the BBC, with some critical questions that this report fails to answer, or downplays.

@@Dutch3DMaster so, is it ok for kids to be mutilated to justify middle age transvestites need for acceptance

UKCP announced, last week, I think - belatedly - that it is no longer supporting the memorandum of understanding on conversion therapy due its concerns about the effect on children. NHS England, Wales and Scotland are still signatories.

​@@carltaylor6452Interesting, but why oh why did these leads do this in the first place? It must have been money... Or political influence...and a complete lack of ethics... because this is not rocket science. And every signatory needs to be retired permanently.

I still feel the UK CP needs to go further. They are still deluded. I feel very cross the nonsense hoops that trainees have to jump through to illustrate they are utterly inclusive and non biiggeted to fall in with this ideology. The UKCP utterly captured. A person trains for years to make sure that as a counsellor you do not collude with your client in whatever illusion they are caught in. But that goes out the window with gender AFFIRMING care.

What's interesting is in the area of suicide no studies were done to confirm kids would resort to it if they didn't get this treatment. You set up a study to say 'have you ever felt.....' or 'would you resort to x if you didn't get....', the answers are going to be what the study intends them to be. Yet since time began, males resort to it in far greater numbers than females even though young girls now make up 70% of all so called disphoria cases in the gender clinic the UK had. People in such fields know that darn well. If you're so weak kneed you'd rather be seen as the good guy than be the good guy which means sometimes saying no, you shouldn't be working with children full stop.

​@@tkpsMen actually don't resort to suicide more than women, they just choose more violent methods and so have higher rates of death.

The left have gone soon far left that moderates, centrists and conservatives appear to be so-called "far right". 🤨

You mean James O'Brien...knobhead supreme

@@MultiLlewis bingo

@@MultiLlewis a lot of people are way too prepared for having been wrong on this.

I'm surprised that Cass has faced so little criticism from something like the BBC. I'm surprised Cass has been able to push this rhetoric now also retaliating against trans adults. That way mostly showing that she never was concerned about puberty blockers (something also shown by the fact that the Interim Report she made earlier made her state "There is no strong evidence to suggest a strong position to take on the treatment with puberty blockers", yet here we are now). She just wanted to create a scientific sounding basis for her hate and discrimination. Transpeople in general are not against more research: we are against the people weaponizing their incompetence of researching the subject well and use the result against the trans community. Cass never researched anything, she just reviewed a ton of evidence and discarded a lot of it for lacking control groups. This is probably out of the ide of hoping to reach a general public unaware of the situation in which these control groups are common not to be used throughout medical research, because it leads to people, sometimes at risk of dying of not getting treatment. That outcome is something doctors ACTUALLY deem unethical, and immoral, and thus, is practically always impossible to use. Yet she claims that all research not having one is bad research. Almost all of the papers that support the positive outcome of a treatment with puberty blockers are also among the ones she claims are bad research, which is quite surprising, because it's actually those papers that had the researchers do their work well, opposed to Cass.

I doubt I could of sat through that video, kudos to you. ❤

Was he dismissing it as 'Far right' propaganda?

@@kevinmaltby4202 “Trans hostility…”

@@ajikpajik9331 Was a tough watch!

Why are you talking about trans people on a euthanasia video?

The longest journey begins with the first step.

You don't? Gee...wow, I wonder how those children at risk of becoming so tall it's unhealthy get their growth halted then... I wonder how those children experiencing precocious puberty are not suffering severely detrimental consequences of having received the same drugs, just like people in cancer treatment, endometriosis treatment and IVF treatment ... Did you decide to not look into these drugs and believe Cass on her word? Because it sure seems like you don't care about science...science that, in the case of Cass was ignored whenever it supported the treatment for having positive outcomes...

Yeah. Let's debate on it for kids AFTER there's actual long term studies to show if it's safe or not.

Do you realize that Cass' recommendations look eerily similar to how abortion debates are being held? Can you also tell me how many children receive treatment each year, according to you? And yes, they are terrifying times to speak publicly: because transpeople won't shut up anymore when bunk science or "research" is meant to target their healthcare. Transpeople are not opposed to science: they simply don't like it when someone treats them as mentally disabled idiots like Cass did. See the resemblance with abortion?

Ban abortion next.

I was just about to say the same thing. These kids are being groomed. Yes, Cass highlights the NHS waiting lists. But what are they on a waiting list for? It seems to me that parents and carers need to say, "no more" and to keep their kids away from these Dr Transensteins and their awful therapeutic lackeys. The mutilations are still going on. The culture wars and toxic debate are actually part of the problem. These slurs have been used to silence us.

And yet, here is someone (Cass) without a PhD in endocrinology and psychology making grand, bold statements about what she considers harmful based on her personal motivation based on nothing but hate. But sure, let's take your idiot statement seriously: Who promoted this? Did it ever occur to you that some parents (part of a group of less then 100 children per year receiving treatment) might have the best for their child in mind? Because if you practice absolutely everything around this subject to any other medical situation it becomes fucking ridiculous (just like Vaush mentioned about diabetics).

Says someone not realizing that this wasn't political to begin with, but extreme-right politicians thought it was highly necessary that it would...

Let's be real. For every woman who spoke out against this, there were two loudly supporting this to virtue signal. Women let themselves down.

​@@vanessac1721Yep, and more than 2, dozens. And this must be discussed.. Why?

@@vanessac1721 This is about euthanasia.

I took a drug called Cyproterone Acetate, which is a testosterone suppressing drug that works by inhibiting the receptors for testosterone. You know what that did? Cause my testicles to shrink to pre-puberty size. You know how that happened? Because when the receptors get inhibited from taking up unbound testosteron (so it becomes bound), eventually the body is going to respond and reduce production of testosteron, which happens in the testicles. This causes the testicles to shrink. So this supposedly suppressed article probably took a wrong approach without really understanding what puberty blockers do: Taking them makes signalling hormones that tell the thyroid and other organs to start producing hormones meant to start puberty, to not produce sex hormones and other hormones, and thus halting puberty. Screening for the start of puberty looks like this: A child is seen regularly by an endocrinologist. The endocrinologist measures their body height, and checks the volume of their testicles with something called an orchidometer. This is a beaded necklace looking kind of thing that has beads corresponding with age and different levels of puberty (so called Tanner Stages). There's also bloodwork done to check hormone levels, and in my case, because I wasn't growing well instead of this being done because I was trans and there were concerns my thyroid was breaking down these very same signalling hormones that GnRH-antagonists block (GnRH antagonists being the actual name of puberty blockers), X-rays of growing plates responding to growing hormones, with the ones in your wrist and ankle being the most important or easiest to picture here. When puberty starts, the production of testosterone in the testicles is ramped up (I am not sure if they produce a tiny bit prior to puberty, or if the tiny amount prior to it is made solely by the adrenal glands) which causes the testicles to increase in volume. Next to a growth spurt (a smallish but still visible one on my end) and bloodwork, this gives the doctor a good indication of puberty having started. In boy-girl transchildren (I don't know the procedure for transboys obviously, for not having been born a girl) this is then the moment to start puberty suppression. When started, this production of testosterone is ceased, causing a slight decrease of the testicular volume again... In other words: this clinic thought to have found something that is actually quite normal, and with the risk of this being weaponized and explained wrong in the way you are doing now, was asked to refrain from publication. Maybe there were also unethical research skills at play and they were afraid of receiving blowback from the scientific community for it, in much of the same way Lisa Littman did for her damaging "research" into "Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria".

Didn't The Cult have a song called "She sells sanctuary" though?

@@marcwilliams9824 Love removal machine ... 🤔

What cult... If anything, Cass exposed herself for being a massive bigot and not knowing how to review proper research. She seems to heavily hope that the general public is probably unaware that a massive amount of medical disciplines allow lacking a control group in their trials: simply for the fact that doctors (you know, actual experts, something Cass definitely isn't regarding transgender healthcare) actually realize that NOT treating someone by using a double-blind, randomised control group is ACTUALLY unethical. Cass also showed that she seems to not care or understand what the Dutch Model (where she is now riling people up about for absolutely no good reason) really entails: some of her recommendations are LITERALLY what the Dutch model stands for... It is insane how tonedeaf and stupid she is. As for the "treat trans adults as children till their 26th year in life"-argument rings eerily identical to the abortion debate: "Women are such fragile emotional creatures that they can't make a life-altering decision when dealing with an unwanted pregnancy, so we need to protect them against themselves!" (in this debate, typically men making that decision) Compare that to: "Transgender adults are so mentally unstable that they do not deserve bodily autonomy, so we need to protect them against themelves!" (In this discussion absolutely everyone but experts on transcare). And with her stance on this, you know this was never about the concern for puberty blockers, nor was it about concern for children: It was about viciously hating transpeople and giving this hate an discrimination a scientific sounding basis. A bit like how, in the abortion debate you will hear a lot: "This is a decision not made lightly, we need to not normalize getting abortions and have women be making this decision well-informed, based on the scientific basis that we currently have". See how that rings eerily comparable to how trans adults are now approached? We continue to hear a rampant, toxic debate in which anyone but the experts voice their concerns about how this care is supposedly lacking any medical ethics and morals, "and doctors are practicing medical malpractice on such a grand scale it is insane we are letting this continue!" Also: this supposed cult handles treatment of less than 100 children each year...LESS THEN 100!!

Yea? Why? You are also locking up doctors who help in cancer treatment, endometriosis, IVF...along with the same doctors helping children who experience precocious puberty... And you wouldn't want to have people dying, have severe pain because of endometriosis, not have their IVF treatment be successful or have children aged 6 go through puberty right, a puberty that at that age will have ACTUAL SEVERELY DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS TO THEIR HEALTH! But thanks for showing you don't understand anything about the subject at hand ;) .

There's supposed to be. But when kids get online and are told tell your parents you're suicidal which they do along with the only UK child gender clinic captured by ideologists who were saying 'better a trans child than a dead one' it was a recipe for disaster, so many weren't getting the clinical treatment they should. Once, they would've been actively dissuaded which is why they only got around 50 a year 10 years ago mostly boys who would've been vigorously checked and likely sometimes refused. Today, at 4000 plus, 70% girls, most got what they demanded. Pro sexism in favour of girls is prevalent in this area for some reason.

Interested in this as well

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How?

That's true but until recently and in the odd case it's still happening, authority figures thwarted parents. Such ideology starts in academia where teachers are trained and some pass that on through schools with the public service (so health systems) the other. They may not outright deny parents but have been getting around rules by claiming not to know limitations so went behind backs. At least school/medical guidelines have been tightened up. When fence sitters insert ambiguity into guidelines 'do gooders' take over and that happened across this entire area. Then for 30 years do gooders have claimed kids can't cope with no & many parents seem to have listened.