I doubt it will be with the material science progress we've already made -- but, I really like for the Miller character that he had a cracked screen. The guy is cemented in stone and replaces all other space gumshoes for me!

Hes an alcoholic .. he definitely drops it or falls on it

@@mpjstuff Miller is the best noir character since Bogart in The Big Sleep.

@@thomasb1889 Agreed. I really LOVE that they treated him that way. It made in a bit surreal -- but, it also made the true strangeness of the "dimension defying" crystal virus seem a bit more real. All the other Sci-Fi seems firmly planted in physics, except for the virus -- and all the "too far beyond us" tech of the ring building aliens.

@@mpjstuff Keeping most of the physics firmly planted in what we know helps a lot. Even the ring gate is possible as scientists theorize that worm holes could be used for interstellar travel. Even the proto-molecules ability to travel so fast may be explainable as it may be using some form of warp which scientists also think is possible so what is inside the bubble follows all the rules of the universe but the bubble can move many times faster.

Every armor increases weight as long as it has mass.

@@uwetheiss970 what does that have to do with my corrective explanation of protective/utility equipment?

@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly You said that only an exoskeleton may increases weight. That is wrong. Every armor increases weight.

@@uwetheiss970 your right I totally fucked up, but I feel like my phone's speech to text messed up more. I should always proofread my comments if I use stt.

Nice name

I watched it in 2 days for the same reason......

Same here

As did I. BTW, when does Season 5 air?

Apparently we're still getting next season this year, despite current events.

That’s it, I’m doing it too. I came to the comments because I want to watch this show now having never seen it just because of the vids here and apparently I’m not alone. Nice.

She didn't introduce him to coffee. He's from earth, he grew up with real coffee. She only gave him some tips on how to make crap coffee slightly better.

@@somefuckstolemynick yes, but it really coffee when you don't taste the right version of it.

She's not his GF, Ade is a hookup, she breaks up with him before he boards the "knight " . Ade shows him to add a pinch of sulfur to reduce the acidity of poor quality coffee beans. Been an expanse nerd for a decade.. love it

Gen Films should do a video on Voltron: Legendary Defender.

One of the many scenes from the books I wish was in the show...budget cuts are a bitch

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Ugh, why build a walker? Walkers are shite compared to wheeled vehicles.

Rockspoon And tanks are better than walkers due to a smaller profile and having a proven design point.

I mean the RECON Marines are literally the most elite force there is, so yeah they get all the training. I've always presumed that there's a a physical trigger bun electronic safety that has to be disengaged first. If you watch the movements in the show, there's not really a lot of gesticulating done, but given the amount of IFF stuff, I could imagine they also have additional steps to take if they want to shoot at a friendly/ neutral, on multiple occasions armed people surrender to a single unarmed marine based purely on reputation alone so they have the training. Back mounted guns that poke up over the shoulder are not really practical for the ship and station combat which is the main form of combat, though they do have a rocket launcher which is only ever used outdoors. I'm not sure having them carry guns in combat directly is an advantage, aside from the fact that they might well be carrying tools for boarding or other things and in the time it takes for them to reload, the could probably have just used the gun to club all the adversaries to a pulp. I'm honestly not even sure if they can grip a normal gun while in power armour. And just to answer a bunch of other comments I've seen (seeing as I presume you probably have similar ideas) the entire suit can be stripped down, and the gun and individual parts removed as well as varied ammo types, In the book a single suit is repaired and maintained for well over 40 years. They also have the option of not wearing the powered armour if they think that's going to be overkill and using conventional weapons. As for the mounting, I assume it's on the wrist so that they don't shoot off their thumb, while for the stability and accuracy of the shot, the servos are more than enough to keep the gun on target, if they can make the suit move the way it does.

Mac McCauley just because you’re elite doesn’t mean you no longer have to be safe. I stopped reading after the first sentence because you started your argument with a logical fallacy.

In space, regular guns can just float away or knocked away. straps don't help if you're flung around. Also the wrist mounted guns are apparently modular. also the whole suit operating in 0G doesn't make sense, since the expanse has made it very clear that in space, marines are expected to fight in anywhere from 0G to like 30Gs

@@kolinmartz I was responding to the comment that the troopers would need extensive mental prep, I never said they had perfect trigger discipline. That fact in itself is central to part of the plot.

Day After Tomorrow or do you mean Edge of Tomorrow?

Just wanted to add some thoughts to some those, largely based on the books: 1. Maintenance and modularity is still designed into the suit. Draper is described many times throughout the series dismantling and performing maintenance repairs on her main weapon, and in at least one instance totally replaces it with a new unit (after leaving Earth with Avasarala). The impression is given that this is a relatively simple thing to access, even when out on operations (as with other parts of the suit, such as the leg joint Draper is having inspected on patrol before the s**t hits the fan on Ganymede) 2. This is definitely a good point, and one that comes up repeatedly. However just because you have the wrist mounted weapon doesn't mean you can't use others too. On a few occasions Bobby takes weapons off other people and uses them - although she generally had to break off the trigger guard to get her power armour glove around it. Also, because of the size of the power armour you'd still be as limited as they are now in the choice of weapons they could use normally - it would only be other Power Armour users, which yeah is better than nothing, but why not just have both? 3. Yeah true, but as you say when you're wearing a suit like that you're already a better melee weapon than anything you could hold.... 4. Also true but in CQC in the Expanse universe there is nothing that can penetrate the Goliath armour, in the tactics of the books etc. they generally don't bother with feeble things like corners, they are their own cover. 6. Interesting one, as especially in vacuum environments hand gestures would be a big thing 7. The point with the wrist mount vs. held is the stability. The Goliath can fire sustained bursts of high-velocity rounds from the minigun while maintaining perfect accuracy even on the move, thanks to its targeting computer. It's unlikely you'd be able to achieve that I'd think with a held weapon without breaking your wrist, even with the suit, as the gloves need to have more flexibility and so don't have the direct structural support that building it directly into the arm gives. 8. Yeah, but again the stability benefits coupled with the computer's ability to make up for vibration etc, it probably balances out 9. The gun has both software and physical safeties. For someone as highly trained as them it should be almost impossible to discharge it accidentally, especially bearing in mind the status is constantly displayed through the HUD. 11. Yeah you can't upgrade it, but do you really need to upgrade a handheld gatling gun?? You can always carry specialised heavy weapons as well, and it is made clear in the series that they also have multiple ammo types for the wrist mounted weapon, including armour piercing, incendiary and explosive rounds

There is a single simple thing you missed. Ammunition feeds. A built in wrist mounted weapon has to, by its design have an internal ammunition feed. Without ease of access, you can't clear a jam or a failure to feed/eject. Also, were is the ammunition stored, that's a minigun. A 100 round box magazine would be the size of her arm, and they fire off thousands of rounds. The only practical storage for that amount of ammunition would be on the back, and then you'd need a feed setup that runs over the shoulder, down the arm, and into the gun, that's exceptionally complicated especially since it has to also deal with the arm moving. A better setup would be a shoulder mounted weapon, on an extendable mount. This would let you fire over obstacles, use cover, and have better lines of sight, oh and an ammo feed would work better. If you insist on arm mounted weapons, have an external hardpoint you can connect a weapon to, that way you can swap out weapons rapidly depending on mission type, ammo availability or damage. Basically you want the armour of the suit, with the weapons setup from the film "The edge of tomorrow", modular hardpoints.

Your barrel can only be as long as a little longer than your firearm. Even if IFF is perfect you’d still have to manipulate other things, other people that aren’t already programmed in the computer. Imagine an unknown contact, say a civilian is hurt and you have to perform medical attention and you accidentally hit them with the brrrtttt to the chest.

@@kolinmartz Well... Problem solved then.

@@kolinmartz I think in Expanse the safety is presumed on - so it's not like the gun locks when it identifies a civilian/unarmed/etc. - it unlocks only on designated targets or with a manual override from the user.

Just bought the first 03 seasons. I've just needed to support this pure Si-Fi Gem.

I just started firefly, while it's entertaining, i don't understand how it got such loyal fanbase. Does it get better later or something?

plus, Expanse has actual funding, unlike Firefly did.

@@meisterproper8304 It has snappy dialogue, tight plotting, and good acting, but if it's not for you, it's not for you.

@@meisterproper8304 Yes. It gets better. It really starts to dig its claws in you once you get past the world building, peel back some character layers, and dive into the main plot. ...which is about where the series got cancelled. Thankfully, you've got the movie to tie up most of those loose ends. So, stick with it. Most people see the show's robbed potential in the final episodes. It was really heading somewhere interesting and then it got the axe. The movie, though? ** chef's kiss **

Why use tank and artillery when you have rail guns and torpedoes on your ships

In order to make ground combat vehicles worth it planets require planetary shields and massive banks of long range anti-ship turrets and, even then, the casualties you'll see just from the invasion is insane and your ground forces will automatically be encircled. Otherwise? Just use rods from god to destroy your enemy.

Well, have you read or skimmed the later Expanse books? Later on they develop a weapon that can render an entire solar system and every single living thing in it unconscious. Granted that's more of an unintended side effect, but yeah they tech up pretty fast once the rings come online.

@Ralph's Place well yes infantry and armored vehicles will be relevant but tanks and artillery not so much. We will see in 200 hundred years I guess

Ryanowning Anti orbital missiles could keep space ships at a distance from the planet have small mobile launchers. Using mobile aa systems would prevent long range missile strikes. So at that point you would be good for anything other than a kinetic strike, which would be less accurate and devastating than a missile.

I am not sure if they did this in the show, but in the novels their guns are noted to be recoil free, having a tiny rocket engine in the bullet. This would prevent the suit from going haywire when firing in 0G, and also prevents the recoil problem.

That's a good point. One over enthusiastic gesticulation and you may be tumbling into the void, never to return. :(

As long as they stick to scifi, its tolerable. Histroy Channel was once nicknamed the Hitler Channel. When they changed, they hardly have historical shows.

Ain't nothing wrong with that

They are making up for years of list time.

Orest Markheva oh don’t mistake me The Expanse is my favorite show on right now, but just change the name of the channel now

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thanks for these fake internet points that have been bestowed upon me! I yearn for nothing, but more internet points

For the greatest depiction of ground combat watch Generation Kill

@@djcy9219 generation kill is actually pretty shitty in terms of depicting real world. it is very hollywood in its view of how things are. there is some stuff which is good, like the mustache thing at the beginning, but the rest is actually rather poor.

I found it to be very true, not so much on tactics or realism of engagements maybe, (this I can't judge for the early days of the second golf war, as I have no first hand experience on that) but the hole behaviourale side of military personal in rest or combat mode is really accurate from my point of view. It has a stronger focus on the confusion and disorder of ground combat.

@@djcy9219 "as I have no first hand experience on that" that is exactly my point. holly wood takes reports about things and then imagines how it would be like, almost always getting it wrong because they have no clue how things are other than via tropes. i wasn't in the second gulf war, but i have served with those that did, and how generation kill depicts things is pretty wrong. the individual soldiers up-armoring their humvees didn't happen like that. they would have been at a forward base, and not a makeshift camp (strip of desert with tents put down, though even if they did put down tents there would have been a lot of other support stuff there as well). the up-armoring would have been out of a base nearby, with the ability to get large packages and a workshop with tools. they would have seen what was coming down the line and figured out that they weren't going to get the up-armor, which means that it wouldn't have been the first group unless it was the commanding officer that foresaw this (as he has advance notice of things and can see more of the politics messing with his unit), and he would have quietly let his NCOs know, which technically would get him in hot water. the NCOs would then figure out how they were going to proceed, either by footing the bill themselves or sharing with his squad the problem and them pooling their resources. of course this is all against regulation and they can all get in trouble, though the higher ups (above the CO) will look bad so they will turn a blind eye. of course all of this is well before the start of the movie, and doesn't show how all of the craziness is the result of washington politics filtering down the grunts on the ground. it also doesn't show how backroom social connections is how the military manages to keep working when politics fucks everything up. that is just that small bit about them up-armoring their own vehicle, but it shows how things are not shown very accurately. i guess i could rewatch the whole thing and go over everything they depicted quite a bit wrong, but that is a lot of time to waste. the mustache thing is the best thing to take from it. the Senior Enlisted Leader is right up there to the CO, disconnected from his troops and he cracks the whip on some small stupid pointless thing that relative to everything that the troops are worrying about is completely meaningless. he does so because he feels that it would help the situation. you can take that one thing and apply it to almost everything in the military and get closer to how things go down than most movies/shows/whatever. if you are able to do that then you will understand why the troops didn't want to leave vietnam even if they didn't believe in the war. you also can figure out why the marines that got back end up with a dark sense of humor, it isn't about the death they see exactly.

It was based off the book made by Evan Wright who at the time, was a combat correspondent who was embedded with the 1st Recon Battalion. So, maybe not everything is accurate but moreover from what I've heard, the mannerisms of the marines depicted in the show are more accurate than how the politics are. Obviously, I trust you're more informed opinion on the matter considering you've served and more importantly, spoken and served alongside men who were there and participated in that war.

Yes to all of those.

Why not just put those on top of some shuttles then? Add in a CIWS while you're at it and you ca deploy a base from orbit that can follow the infantry. The fact is that almost nothing can protect from orbital railguns. And tactical flexibility can be provided by missiles or dropships/air support. If you're invading from orbit you have to get the rounds from orbit to the ground, and then on target. Why not just drop them on the target from out of the target's range? You don't see a ton of ground vehicles in space because orbital support is easier to rely on, the gravity is relatively low (meaning vehicles have to be slower), and Epstein drives are just too damned efficient. Most ground combat also takes place inside pressurized areas and you don't want to use heavy firepower there since a heavier round could blow through something or use explosives since it's a confined space. I can see the UNN having ground vehicles and maybe the MCRN when it comes to invading planets but in all honesty we likely won't see them on low gravity worlds or inside the Stations because they would have to be slow and they would have a hard time fighting in a confined space.

The trophy system is called APS for tanks, active protection system.

*have given ;)

a laser would theoretically need a much larger and heavier power cell than any ammo you would carry for a gun. i agree with you on integrated guns though

@@phalanx4690 yeah both gattling gun and laser better suited for vehicles. They just need more of those lock-on rockets for long range and smg for short range in my opinion

and lets not forget adaptability issues, unless you develop a multi weapon system that can adapt to different situations such weapons are become impractical. an example could be used in the expanse itself with ship combat. the heavier power armour's Gatling gun could easily over penetrate and put the ships integrity at risk or need smaller calibres that would work better with other weapon systems and lets not even talk rate of fire. in CQC while rate of fire is a important factor it can also be a determent if you are trying to secure object or people of importance as one stray shot from automatic fire could damage your intended objective. truthfully integrated weapons are more of a determent for logistic and the soldier using them. if a weapon in such a platform breaks you'd have to possibly send the entire suit to be repaired and if the soldier was on a battlefield when it broke it would extra weight that they would have to carry AND possibly leave your troop weaponless. more traditional fire arms for the most part don't have these troubles. a modern soldiers rifle is broken and is sent to a logistics officer while they are given another which is more likely cheaper that a full power armour set and if their rifle broke on the battle field they could possibly take one off the enemy or grab a spare from a near by ally if they use non-integrated systems. some weapon systems may work well integrated into armour systems but most don't especially if they are designed for infantry and boarding usage. such armour and weapon systems would possibly work better of larger power armours for things like urban environments where traditional armoured vehicles can't be as mobile or in area's where damage limitation is a non-factor like the expanse for example, low-g, vacuum planetoid that can't that cant have heavier vehicles brought to it. also kind of disagree with idea armour vehicle would be classed as obsolete as being able to bring powerful weapons is always going to be a factor in warfare and using a ship that maybe under attack or attacking another to gain or keep control over the planet to destroy a single vehicle that may half way across the planet for them could be a pain. and even today in modern warfare there are increasing number anti missile systems that protect the vehicles very well, it would be a stretch to see these thing become increasingly common as time goes on so infantry anti-tank weapons may not be as effective as the appear to be.

@@phalanx4690 If you have a power cell that can supply power armor, you should be good. Anyway, integrated weapons are almost always stupid. Too many downsides for too few benefits.

@@TheTallGuy1992 plus while transporting armoured vehicles might be expensive for single nations the ones in the expanse are WORLD GOVERNMENTS! They’re probably gonna have a lot more resources to work with.

Nvm the cgi isint very eye candy to me

There’s also the parental risk of the enemy hitting the stored ammunition.

How you have more than a couple seconds of ammo on your forearm for a minigun is beyond me.

ソウタ.ブリーズ assuming it fires the “usual” 4000 rpm you might have a 1-2 second burst before you’d need an obvious ammo storage container somewhere your person. Which could become an inviting target given the ammo is case-less.

Coment Nine since the wiki says the minigun fires 5mm case less ammo, I don’t think there’s enough propellant mass in those rounds, or enough rounds for that to pose a threat to the users health. But those RPGs on the back. That’s a pretty target.

@@Imperialist_Hotdog ​ @Coment Nine I haven't read the books, but it is likely that the miniguns are not using gunpowder. It is probably a railgun. That would cut out a lot of needed space and liability with gunpowder although there still isn't enough space in the suit to store much ammo.

You ignored the fact that recon marines can just destroy tanks with one of those heavy missiles or two. Plus I imagine in such an advanced tech age uavs would be used to snipe targets with heavy missiles.

@@floseatyard8063 Infantry AT units (not really recon marines's main objective honestly) use very heavy javelin missiles, which take a two man squad just to haul around since they weigh a lot (and cost a lot). Those are able to take out older tanks with older armor, think t-72 or older, chobam style armor that's usually weak up top. They usually will have one man carry the launcher and another man carry 4 payloads, so a two man squad can fire 4 missiles, a three has 8 and so on. This doesn't challenge the advantages of armored vehicles, as they have a lot more armor than any marine, have better firepower then javelin missiles, can go longer, faster, don't get tired etc.

@@mickeynissan9887 first this series takes place in 2530 something if I'm not mistaken and things are WAY more portable. 2nd if you watched the video, recon marines have missile launchers on their backs which can absolutely annihilate big missile launchers in 1 hit. Its not ridiculous to assume 2 or 3 could take out a heavy tank.

@@mickeynissan9887 but to be fair this tech advantage also gives defense against missiles like lasers and PDCs so I imagine a few marines would have to swarm a tank to actually destroy it with missiles. A 1v1 would mean a marine lost

@@floseatyard8063 Economy and logistics are a major part though, and a marine costs less then a tank with four marines in it.

I agree. It's show, don't tell. All it takes really is one day on a tac range to show the actors playing this elites the fundamentals of things like room clearing, etc. And the authenticity increased tenfold. Rather than watching actors in costumes act like actors in costumes.

ScepticalCynic I’m not sure you read my comment through. My whole point is that yes, they tell us that they are supposed to be the best of the best, and yet they act like new recruits and their tactics are amateur level. The only thing they have going for them is excellent equipment. A lot of shows do that is my point, they just say “hey these people are super elite” without ever having them behave like an elite unit and we are supposed to just take their word for it.

Alex Wilkinson Bobbi is alot better in the second book, def recommend reading the entire series

its not their tactics that bug me, it's the obvious lack of going through basic training and acting like a bunch of punks. That said, i suppose its realistic in that they did get their asses handed to them lol

Navy Seals and Spetsnazs would also be massacred by the alien-hybrid

Ship could also bombard ANY ground forces

@@JohnSmith-qz6xb yes but the cost/effect calculation is a different one. A vehicle is way easier to detect. If you want to use air(space)superiority on single infantry you ether have to put insane amounts of resources in targeting/target recognition and tracking or bombard the hole thing. If you aren't fighting in space in the first place that probably means there is something down there you want to obtain, so bombarding that seems counterproductive.

In anti Guerilla actions armored vehicles might be rather useless too, at least as long as it takes place in dense urban environments were infantry based anti armor weapons are to easily deployed.

djcy9219 exactly why vehicles would be present

@@scelonferdi Armored vehicles are only really vulnerable in an urban environment when operating alone. If they're operating with infantry acting as their eyes and ears , then they're far less vulnerable as long as the infantry don't operate from APCs or trucks and refuse to get out and properly screen the other vehicles.

I guess Kull Warriors would win

@@nobleman9393 no definitely an ascended being if the others didn't step in!!

Yep, a futuristic (Expanse era) APC could carry a trophy like system to deter guided munitions and an autocannon to shred exosuits. Bigger platform, bigger systems. Plus vehicles still play logistic, command and control and medical roles a exosuit cant do.

Walkers are not only marketable, but they are also mobile vantage points perfect for scouting missions.

Wydm by marketable? A mobile scout platform can be filled just as well or better by a LAV. Being tall isn't good for scouting, it just makes you visible and a target.

@@thunderbladen8692 in terrain that is more steep and much more uneven, a mech with 4+ legs would make sense, but they shouldn't be massive .

Eh. That series is a disappointment.

@@thatchanguy It's pretty bad, I agree 100

Chris C Just like the real Space Force.

If I recall, rpgs can't take out tanks not because of the armor, but because they cover tanks with screens; the grenade is on a delayed fuse and otherwise would rip into the tank easily so the screen triggers the fuse and the round blows up while still outside.

@@Burt1038 you are correct for 1950-ies tank, but the modern ones have composite armor that works even better than screens, e.g. Abrams front armour resistance against HEAT projectiles is equivalent to over 2 meters of steel. Today screens are used on APCs that don't carry nearly as much armor as tanks.

​@@Andy-kw2zm ATGM work well only against incompetent tank crews e.g. Saudi or in case of lucky ambush scenario (e.g. nearly every single Merkava lost to arabs). Competent tank crew will either use terrain or deploy smokescreen (more like aerosol today) or simply kill ATGM team before they have a chance to fire because tank have a range advantage. Recoil less "rifles" (LOL) like Gustav are more dangerous to tanks... but you are not going to penetrate front armour of any decent tank with one (plus its really heavy). Furthermore heat seaking ATGMs that attack from above are relatively new development (yes you are correct that modern tanks were developed in the 1980-ies when such weapons simply didn't existed) but they are not available to most of armies of the world. Laser-guided or even wire-guided ATGMs are used by most of the armies. Still active defense systems have been installed on tanks that have to endure this kind of threats so my point holds: if you are an infantry man you most likely can not do anything to a tank. There was a video that KZfaq deleted of how single Ukrainian tank takes out 2 squads of advancing Russian mercenaries that had 2 APCs with them... Tank simply appeared out of the hills, deploys smoke, destroys both APCs and makes mercenaries running. It all happened in the matter of seconds. Anti-armor shell of 120mm howitzer or similar 100mm mortar shell can take out a tank obviously but scoring such hit on a very fast and very agile target is a big challenge. Similarly if complete air superiority is achieved than yes ground attack planes can begin to hunt down tanks. Helicopters work too but they have quite a lot more troubles because they are very vulnerable to MANPADS (especially vehicle-mounted ones... I'm not sure what is the correct term in English for that kind of vehicles - the ones that carry dozens of heat-seaking missiles).

CGI is expensive.

@@frankg2790 Also Miller was supposed to be using a big alien maintenance mech extensively in season 4, cutting the ruins and fighting other protomolecule machines. Was super pumped for that scene, was kinda disappointed the mech was so small with so little screen time. But I get it, it would have been SUPA expensive...

Pretty much. Gravity is rather annoying in large scale especially in rockets escaping from earth to space. However in a lot of things especially the small ones, gravity helps a lot in reducing the amount to work/energy needed to do things. For example, cars. Without gravity, normal cars would be useless and you'd have to invent miniature spacecraft and has to consider 3d movement, and counteracting forces. But with gravity, it helped push the car down and contact with the earth. We just only need to concern with moving the car one way. And that's just one aspect of daily life!

There are light weight buggies used on Ilus for what it’s worth

What? V-2 rockets flew faster than sound.

Richard Button You should try watching the Expanse again. I like you gave up after watching a couple of episodes it was too slow and didn’t catch me. I tried again after a friend convinced me it was worth another go and now I’m hooked and can’t wait for the next series. The first 3-4 episodes are slow but after that it really takes off and gets better and better.

Yeah I stoped after first 3 too. But I came back and now I watching it as soon as I have free time

@@nobleman9393 Didnt think of that my bad but Im sure you get my point anyway

It is also based more on our knowledge of physics and a little less hand waving.

Martian drop pod I think

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