How THE UNDOING Should Have Ended

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Think Story

Think Story

3 жыл бұрын

Many were disappointed by the ending to HBO's latest mini series THE UNDOING starring Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant. In this video I outline what I didn't like about it as well as an alternate ending.
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@ThinkStory
@ThinkStory 3 жыл бұрын
So what did you think of that ending? I checked the reviews on IMDB and it's super polarizing! Let me know what you think below. Like this video? Check out my "How Game of Thrones Should Have Ended" video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZadocZ20ZrShok.html
@stephanievee4722
@stephanievee4722 3 жыл бұрын
Meh
@deetw6470
@deetw6470 3 жыл бұрын
It was bit of a dud ending for sure. 3 outta 10 from me
@craneluff
@craneluff 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that when Grace asked Sylvia to go for a walk, she asked her to let the Prosecutor know about Jonathan’s childhood drama (which she did in the restroom) so she could bring it up in cross examination, thus discrediting Grace’s testimony.
@cardboard2night
@cardboard2night 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you people hate finale? It's the same as book finale, for starters, plus it's consistent with overall theme of the show, so I don't get the complaints... The whole schtick of "how it should have ended" works only as comedy, like what they do on hishe channel, when it's serious rewriting like this video it's honestly pathetic. Rewatch the show if you didn't understand it by first viewing, review and analyse it if you want to, but to be like " oh, I know how it should've ended"... This ain't it, chief.
@SaintSusieBlue
@SaintSusieBlue 3 жыл бұрын
I was TOTALLY leaning towards the father in law theory almost to the bitter end but gotta say, I am getting much more satisfaction out of your scenario! It really does make for a better, more complete, ending to the series, and it would have been much more intriguing (without that gratuitous “action” scene) and much more jarring. Well done!
@MeJustMeOnlyMeJustMe
@MeJustMeOnlyMeJustMe 3 жыл бұрын
I think the massive “twist” is that Jonathan was a psychopath who was able to fool his wife (and most of the audience) into thinking that he wasn’t the killer. He was under our nose all that time, with evidence pointing to him, and yet people still didn’t believe that this charming children’s doctor could have done it. The title of the source material is “You Should Have Known”, and yes, like Grace, we should have known, but we as an audience were so invested in someone else being the killer that we couldn’t see what was right in front of us. I thought it was a great character study and I’m gonna rewatch it to see Jonathan without the rose-coloured glasses.
@Boyde712
@Boyde712 3 жыл бұрын
I would agree, if not for the fact our experience ends up entirely divorced from hers. If the point of the show was that she, in fact, should have known, we should have been experiencing the doubt and inner turmoil through her eyes. Instead, we get a bunch of deceptive flashbacks (an incredibly poor choice from a direction standpoint, since we're left to assume they're either her memories or imaginings, when they were in fact the exact events of Elena's murder), a bunch of completely irrelevant fugue state plot threads and just general caginess. Yes, we saw her struggling, but we never felt it, because we never actually knew what was going on inside her head. I'm not expecting a Shakespearean soliloquy from her in every scene, but if the point of the book (and by extension the show, since it was such a faithful adaption), was psychological horror, as it said on the cover, we needed a bigger window into her psyche. Instead, we came in expecting a whodunit, and some grand twist, because that was all the story really gave us to interpret and run with from the first episode. The show did this ON PURPOSE, even going so far as to cause us to suspect Grace at times, when she should have been the emotional core of the show. And maybe that was the point. Tease us for 6 hours, shower us with red herrings because, we, like Grace, want Jonathan to be innocent. But we want and believe him to be innocent for different, shallower reasons than Grace does, so come the grand reveal, we're left feeling more disappointed in the reveal, than heartbroken for her. As a character study, yes, brilliant. If we were supposed to learn about the dangers of NPD, then, yeah, sure, we were fooled. But it pretended to be a classic murder mystery for five and a half episodes instead, because it wasn't sure we'd keep watching otherwise.
@alexlazzerly3677
@alexlazzerly3677 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually a much better title for the show and makes so much sense in the context of the story. I wish they would have kept that.
@cheryltariq
@cheryltariq 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...I agree...We Should Have Known. Have we learnt more about ourselves???
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 жыл бұрын
I never had rose colored glasses about Jonathan, I knew he was a scumbag but I just had expectations of a more interesting twist based on it being an HBO show. I expected more or a surprise ending, not a Lifetime movie ending. Him being the killer was no surprise, the only 'twist' really was Grace's double-cross plot where she convinces Haley to put her on the stand, and had Sylvia tip off the prosecutor about what questions to ask. That was a set up and I didn't think Grace had enough guile in her for that, so that was the only surprise.
@alexlazzerly3677
@alexlazzerly3677 3 жыл бұрын
@@lestranged Well I definitely think you're in the minority. I, and a whole lot of other people did not think it was as simple as the killer being Jonathan. I actually think him being the killer is far less "lifetime movie" than some of the other options. Like if it was Sylvia, for example- that feels way more like a bad lifetime movie to me. The last-minute reveal of the best friend being the villain is an extremely common twist. This actually felt a little different than what you'd normally see.
@fabiogiolito
@fabiogiolito 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you misread the washroom scene with Sylvia and the prosecutor, it was not meaningless at all. That was the twist. Grace and Sylvia met early that morning for a walk and planned how to make sure Jonathan was convicted: Grace offering herself to take the stand to give the prosecutor the chance of asking the right questions. And it’s in that washroom moment Sylvia gives the prosecutor the information she needed for the cross examination of Grace, as planned with Grace. So the twist for me was Grace finally seeing her husband for who he really is and actively sabotaging his trial. We’re too used with the killer being the twist, and the beauty of the series is that we also allowed ourselves to be fooled by Jonathan’s charisma.
@215alexdx
@215alexdx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the guy who made this video doesn’t understand sociopathy and how well the writing presented it
@sethrose1325
@sethrose1325 3 жыл бұрын
Yep but then Grace let her son sleep in the same house as Jonathan for two nights.... she makes the decision that Jonathan is a psychopath murderer and then let’s her son sleep in the house. Then grace gives the evidence in court... and let’s her son sleep in the same house lol
@kibirdie
@kibirdie 3 жыл бұрын
@@sethrose1325 she had no choice. If she had alerted Jon in any way that she knew he was the killer prior to her taking the stand, she wouldn’t have been able to testify on his behalf (remember he had to okay it) and he wouldn’t have been convicted. Grace believed he wouldn’t hurt his son in my opinion.
@sethrose1325
@sethrose1325 3 жыл бұрын
@@kibirdie That makes sense for the night before she testified, but after she testified there is no reason to keep your son in that house.
@kibirdie
@kibirdie 3 жыл бұрын
@@sethrose1325 he wasn’t with him the night after, watch it again. They showed up separately to court. He was texting him and picked him up for breakfast on the way to school. They thought he was at school. Jon was at some apartment alone, not the house.
@erikaklein1
@erikaklein1 3 жыл бұрын
The ending was Nicole Kidman on the stand, “ innocently” serving her husband up as the sociopath he is. Tremendous scene. Impeccably acted and directed. I’m glad it wasn’t a woman jealous killer. That’s cliche.
@12234d
@12234d 3 жыл бұрын
it would have been better than what they actually did.
@blueshoes915
@blueshoes915 3 жыл бұрын
They say sociopath in the show but really, clinically, I think he would be considered a psychopath. That part was brilliant. Especially when you see him realize she did it on purpose. Brilliant acting too.
@jimbeam4736
@jimbeam4736 2 жыл бұрын
I can´t see Jonathan as a monster. What did he do? Kill a woman that destroyed his life, stalked his family and attacked him with a hammer? That´s forgivable and not psychopathological at all. The only persons that portray manipulative and pathological behavior are the women in this series. In the end, he is the victim of two women, his affaire and his wife. That his parents blamed him for the death of his sister is monstrous and he should be cut some slack because he grew up to become a successful doctor, father and husband.
@user-ur9wy1lt8z
@user-ur9wy1lt8z 2 жыл бұрын
That's the self righteous "Skyler White Syndrome"
@RamonCalvoMusic
@RamonCalvoMusic 2 жыл бұрын
It is said multiple times in the show itself that "it's always the husband". So even by the show's standards, no, that wouldn't have been cliche. In fact, what they did was cliche.
@tricivenola8164
@tricivenola8164 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you missed the part where Nicole Kidman calls her best friend, the attorney, to walk with her and to do her a favor. She sends her into the ladies' room to tell the prosecuting attorney that Hugh Grant's own mother said he was without human feeling, because she realized he was a monster, she was setting him up to get caught, and that's the twist.
@sbbperson
@sbbperson 3 жыл бұрын
After his talk with the school principal , I actually thought the grandfather could be the killer . Lol
@kenarata1751
@kenarata1751 3 жыл бұрын
Totally thought the same! In his mind, he figured he’d do anything to protect his daughter and family.
@Imtiff
@Imtiff 3 жыл бұрын
Same! I thought the Dad could have hired a killer for a minute, but the husband was so obvious.
@sbbperson
@sbbperson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Imtiff Yeah, he ran after the murder. Usually innocent people don't run. But I thought the husband would be an exception, but it was him all along. Lol
@viqala9159
@viqala9159 3 жыл бұрын
They very very briefly hinted at possible other killers, like the grandpa. But they never fully explored those possibilities in more detail or with more hints or evidence to really confuse the viewer. I feel like the show should've had a more agatha christie treatment to it, where you'd really think at one point that it could be anyone, and there would be enough hints for it to actually be anyone.
@borneocoolpad7833
@borneocoolpad7833 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenarata1751 can't be. that's the most ovb one. They did that to many Times. Father doing the best he can no matter what the cost. Theyll never do that anymore..
@Organiclife468
@Organiclife468 3 жыл бұрын
I found it very good tbh. It was so obvious that I never thought it could be him the killer. He fooled the women that loved him bringing them to think he was an emphatic caring man when at the end he was a narcissist incapable to love anyone else but himself. I spent 6 episodes wondering who killed her because I didn't want to believe he could have done that but at the end Jonathan fooled me too. Genious. I loved it
@rozanahwirt1311
@rozanahwirt1311 3 жыл бұрын
I was totally fooled by Jonathan too.
@emman3912
@emman3912 3 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed too but then i wondered- were they trying to show how easily manipulated we could be, just like Nicole's academic and educated character? How in the process of convincing her he didn't do it, we were also looking for other possible killers too instead of Jonathan? I am really overthinking this, but was it a commentary on how we should not be judgmental of people who fall victim to the manipulations of a narcissist/psychopath, as we all did in this show?.... But yes, I was certain the son or Sylvia were going to be revealed as the killer in a final twist.....
@cheikhabdalahi9332
@cheikhabdalahi9332 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's an interesting point
@slcRN1971
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that it could have been a nice twist ending, if Sylvia had been the murderer - - but only if she took out Jonathan too. He was a disgusting person, who only cared about himself- - first and foremost. Maybe having Sylvia murder the woman and set it up for him to be blamed, to punish Johnathan.
@MiamiLoco
@MiamiLoco 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said, but that scene in the washroom was everything BUT meaningless. Grace asked Sylvia for a favor. In the washroom Sylvia told Catherine the questions to ask Grace on the stand to basically convict Jonathan.
@anabela3296
@anabela3296 3 жыл бұрын
YES! To me this scene was CRUCIAL. I was so confused as to why Grace held Sylvia's hand after the trial since it was obvious she had told the prosecutor the "narcissist" opinion but then it made sense
@Marcanoregistrada
@Marcanoregistrada 3 жыл бұрын
@@anabela3296 was about to comment the same thing, it seems that it went over his head that she was instructed by Grace to feed information . The chase scene was shit though.
@Rjames1099
@Rjames1099 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was telling my wife while we were watching it lol
@djoetma
@djoetma 3 жыл бұрын
I assumed she, Catherine, talked to the mother as well.
@samardzicemir
@samardzicemir 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was in the bathroom where Sylvia told Catherine about the Grace's conversation with John's mother. Catherine could have not known that information from anyone other than Sylvia through Grace.
@silkspectre7979
@silkspectre7979 3 жыл бұрын
The scene in the bathroom is far from being meaningless. This is where they made a deal with prosecution, how could you even think it was meaningless lol
@rozanahwirt1311
@rozanahwirt1311 3 жыл бұрын
Because Sylvia asks her how are doing and she says I’m fine. It empty.
@Natasha_4
@Natasha_4 Жыл бұрын
@@rozanahwirt1311 Oh. You’re one of those people who need every single thing placed out so you can understand the story huh? Obviously they aren’t going to tell us the idea/plot before the court scene even happens. It’s supposed to feel “meaningless“ then it all comes together at the end.
@SLOmygosh
@SLOmygosh 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree. The fact that we all had these wild theories throughout the show, with no certainty about the real killer - and yet now many are saying it was too “obvious”. What?! It was never obvious, that’s the whole point of suspecting everyone. I was gritting my teeth over Henry’s situation in those last ten minutes, and cringing for Elena in the flashbacks. They hooked me in from the first episode, forced me to theorize and (plausibly) suspect many different characters, and brought it all to a heart pounding climax - which COULD have gone many ways. Nothing was a certainty until the very last moments. Haley scolding him over that hammer was the biggest AHA moment for me. And I would’ve been disappointed in the Sylvia theory coming to fruition, because even THAT could have come across as obvious. It would have been the collective “I KNEW IT” heard ‘round the world. I say we should appreciate this for what it was. Superb acting, beautifully shot, phenomenal adaptation. All in all - an elegant, entertaining thriller that kept me speculating all the way.
@lindahayden9202
@lindahayden9202 3 жыл бұрын
Coral Kessler totally agree with you, Coral. Jonathan was one of the most heinous creatures!
@imshubhajit
@imshubhajit 3 жыл бұрын
It was obvious... They also say it out loud in beginning that "It's always the husband".
@ilovejesus5115
@ilovejesus5115 3 жыл бұрын
They wanted to show how Narcissistic Personality Disorder are. They are good at gas lighting people , they never admit they are wrong and they will always cheat cause they need constant validation from different people and that is one of their supply , it boost their ego! In short they are sick,hollow, heartless people!
@jennycoyle8204
@jennycoyle8204 3 жыл бұрын
Plus like many narcissistic people he was a coward at the end all that pretending he was going to kill himself. I haven’t enjoyed a show like this in years. Every week I was rewatching episodes trying to decipher who it was as he seemed so obvious it threw us off. Utterly brilliant! 🦋
@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more. All these people (including this channel) wanting a shocker of an ending is pathetic. They were all strung along second guessing themselves with each episode when “they should’ve known.” Sometimes it’s the beauty in the metaphors and journey of the main character. I was completely satisfied how the series ended. Nothing to change folks.
@helensmith8325
@helensmith8325 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the ending was perfect..I re-watched Johnathan in earlier scenes and his manipulation was chilling.. living a total lie. Hugh's facial expressions and acting at the end was frightening. in my opinion of course!
@gigidayz6936
@gigidayz6936 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@nevswain478
@nevswain478 3 жыл бұрын
his obvious manipulation was why i hoped it would be a twist where someone else did it. For example the son. The son had alot of motive, especially after hearing the dog story from his mom, and witnessing his dad intimately with another woman. He could have also had gotten sociopathic tendencies from his dad. It would have been way cooler. The hammer was especially a giveaway to that idea, plus the dinner date the family had in ep 5...
@fuckkkkt33
@fuckkkkt33 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@epo1980
@epo1980 3 жыл бұрын
I dont agree. You expected an ending what would have surprised you. While it was obvious who is the killer... What did you expect..? If you want strange twists, watch Poirot. That is a great show too.
@MekintoshLarja
@MekintoshLarja 3 жыл бұрын
@epo1980 yes, I love how it is about how everything falls apart for Grace, and she then gets closer to her dad, she finds out about her Mom and Dads Relationship, about her husbands childhood. This isn't only a murder mystery. It's much more.
@airdailyx
@airdailyx 3 жыл бұрын
Even if we’re not going for a strange twist it doesn’t change the fact that the ending was rushed in the final episode. The pacing went from a herd of turtles to a fucking F-16
@kibirdie
@kibirdie 3 жыл бұрын
The scene in the bathroom and Sylvia’s connection to the prosecutor wasn’t worthless. Sylvia told the persecutor about what Jon’s mom said about him and how Grace called him a narcissist so Grace could take Jon down.
@jamesg8175
@jamesg8175 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you don't need a massive unrealistic twist!
@petershynes
@petershynes 3 жыл бұрын
It's only disappointing if you were expecting a twist the whole series, as you said you were. I watched the series thinking it was about a wife slowly realizing she's married to a sociopath. Sure, no twist left some loose strings and red herrings, but any other ending would leave sooo much more unresolved plot points about his derangement and manipulation.
@lt2143
@lt2143 3 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. The ending was very good. It finally revealed how much of a psychopath he really was. The title of the book is "You Should Have Known."
@debrajenkins5390
@debrajenkins5390 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, as I said, her clinical training should have given her the skills to analyze her husband during the weeks before the trial. He was a textbook case study. They did not explore her eureka moments better.
@12234d
@12234d 3 жыл бұрын
Max Landis made a good point on why this ending doesn't work.
@cardiodream
@cardiodream 3 жыл бұрын
The Undoing is about undoing of a marriage, a persona and a murder trial. Who done it is just part of the story, the tool to reveal the characters' true selves. The core message is about how people can be so blinded and under the spell of a covet narcissist. The murderer has to be Hugh Grant's character because that is why Grace's marriage has been undone.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!At least some people get it.This theme is introduced in the very first scene with grace and her patient and runs throughout the whole series.
@TheWonderGirl23
@TheWonderGirl23 3 жыл бұрын
You can still have that same concept with Sylvia/ Lilly Rabe character as the inciting incident or murderer. Because it would still show how Jonathan’s selfish inclinations and decisions can have severe consequences that would harm people in his cycle and overall pop the illusion of the man he wanted Grace and society to think of him as. Which the final outcome would be Grace realiZing her husband is a fraud and it would be the undoing of their family as they know it. They would have to create a new reality for which their family would have to live in. It’s a better ending in my opinion, but I would have been cool with Grace, the son, or her father doing it also.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWonderGirl23 No because then you would have Johnathan on trial for something he didnt do,that would gain him sympathy in societys eyes.anyone else other than Johnathan would be ridiculous
@rixx46
@rixx46 3 жыл бұрын
I get that, and apparently, that's the focus of the book, told entirely from the perspective of Grace. But when you draw it out over 6 hours and misrepresent the story as a mystery, then people naturally expect all these clues and misdirections to pay off in a more satisfying way. Grace was entirely passive from the moment she accepted that her husband had cheated, fathered another child, and worst of all, FUCKED ANOTHER WOMAN - SAW SHE WAS BRUTALLY MURDERED AND CAME HOME AND FUCKED HER TOO. Even if he wasn't the killer, what woman would not be sickened by that - it made her a passive fool from then on.
@Boyde712
@Boyde712 3 жыл бұрын
@@rixx46 Exactly, Grace was really the problem here, in the sense that she simply wasn't present enough in her own story. Obviously the book would have an easier time conveying the themes it needed to, being from her perspective, but they tried to make a show about Grace's psychological turmoil and inner conflict without ever really showing it to us, so we focused on the fun murder mystery instead. I can respect the intent of the story, and understand the message it was trying to convey, but it flubbed the execution spectacularly.
@dakota.avalanche
@dakota.avalanche 3 жыл бұрын
I felt like the ending was very underwhelming. It's like all the stress and intrigues from the other episodes didn't matter, and there was no real mystery at all. I was expecting some sort of twist.. i guess having no twist was a twist in itself, but not what i was wanting lol. Nicole Kidman and her coats did it for me though. She is stunning
@alexlazzerly3677
@alexlazzerly3677 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're called "red herrings." They exist in every murder mystery. The reveal of the killer did its job perfectly in the sense that 1.) the majority of people did not see it coming and 2.) It actually makes sense and lines up with all the facts we had.
@JozefSzekeresartist
@JozefSzekeresartist 3 жыл бұрын
I also thought that had Grace not given her account in court, her husband Jonathan would’ve gotten off as innocent. So, that for me was the catharsis.
@rob5032
@rob5032 3 жыл бұрын
I think that your ending is incredibly contrived and far-fetched. A supposed mistress murdering the new and younger side dish? I thought that the ending was a twist as most people probably assumed that Hugh Grant was innocent all along. I thought that the killer was either Grace or her father and was surprised that it was indeed the husband. I agree that the chase scene was ridiculous and rushed but it was one of the best short series that I have seen in a very long time.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it would be ridiculous if Sylvia,who is really barely in the series turns out to be the killer.I think people are angry because they expected Grant to be innocent and got fooled!Kinda like his whole family was fooled so thats kind of interesting.
@TheDoctorwho747
@TheDoctorwho747 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, I think people were expecting some big twist but it being the husband and Grace through Sylvia turning on him was a twist, at least for me cuz your right in shows and movies like this the person on trial is always innocent. I also agree that the chase wasnt that great and I wanted a confrontation between Grace and Johnathon. Plus Sylvia being the killer would have been way too obvious.
@sueblack5794
@sueblack5794 3 жыл бұрын
It sound like something that would be on o the Lifetime channel.
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gos1234567 But I never felt he was 'innocent'- even if he was not the killer, he was a low down dirty lying scumbag narcissist. He probably was screwing other women the whole marriage, not 'just one' before Elena. I never saw him through rose tinted glasses or anything like that. I just expected something more from HBO.
@illimattic
@illimattic 3 жыл бұрын
I hate twist endings where the person who has the least amount of screen time becomes the killer. Glad they didn't go that dumb horror movie route.
@marijamartinovic4404
@marijamartinovic4404 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect ending for me!! It means that the whole story was about seducing us - as viewers - to believe that it could be someone else. As you explained in your reasoning here. But, it was him the whole time and that's perfect. The point is that she realised that and decided to give him in. That was great. She decided that for all of us.
@noahmadrigal162
@noahmadrigal162 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the ending, and completely disagree. Also, Sylvia not telling Grace about Johnathan hiring her is attorney client privilege, not shady on her, it's entirely shady on him....
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 жыл бұрын
So she honored the attorney client privilege then, but breaks it by assisting Grace to tip off the prosecutor about what questions to ask Grace when she cross examined her. Grace and Sylvia set that whole thing up to make sure Jonathan got convicted. Sylvia would be disbarred for that.
@noahmadrigal162
@noahmadrigal162 3 жыл бұрын
@@lestranged That is absolutely true, I'm just saying as to why she didn't tell Grace up until her husband became a murder suspect lol
@KirroSoya
@KirroSoya 3 жыл бұрын
@@lestranged Only communications between Jonathan and Sylvia regarding his disciplinary hearing are attorney-client privileged. Anything Sylvia heard from Grace regarding Grace's conversation with John's mother are not AC privileged.
@Sandybowls_9001
@Sandybowls_9001 3 жыл бұрын
He literally smashes a hammer into his lover's skull, idt it's out of character for a sociopath to run once cornered.
@215alexdx
@215alexdx 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the point where I turned off the video lol
@vt-yp7yq
@vt-yp7yq 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the ending. Enough already with 'clever endings', this rang true to me.
@TimDunneSminted
@TimDunneSminted 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that Elena wasn’t actually the body and she was still alive. The face was pretty much unrecognisable. I felt like the show hinted that something more was going on, ultimately was very 2 dimensional, which annoyed me as it didn’t need 6 episodes to reveal something that was assumed in episode 1.
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 жыл бұрын
I had that thought for a minute too, that Elena had faked her own death and killed another woman with a similar body to hers, but i am sure they would do DNA tests and other modern things to confirm the victim's identity. If the story had been set in an earlier time period before modern CSI techniques, that would be a good plot.
@TimDunneSminted
@TimDunneSminted 3 жыл бұрын
@@lestranged unless she had an identical twin! ;) but that would be a silly plot!
@chrispa9573
@chrispa9573 3 жыл бұрын
The ending was horrible. It totally seemed melodramatic. His lawyer should get an Emmy nomination though for sure.
@charley15z
@charley15z 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see how it was melodramatic at all. I was genuinely terrified. The best friend, being the jealous and scorned surprise villain- now that's melodramatic and something you'd see in a lifetime movie.
@ruthbennett7563
@ruthbennett7563 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed her performance, as well. She played that morally dark-grey role with depth & subtlety. She knew EXACTLY that Johnathan was guilty. Though, given that she was one of the few characters we could really “get into”, I was kinda disappointed that she didn’t face more consequences than simply to “lose” the case.
@paulwillard81
@paulwillard81 3 жыл бұрын
@chrispa9573 Methinks you don't understand Jonathan's character arc here if you think the ending was horrible. The ending was perfect. He was under our nose the entire time. And we were too blinded by wanting to find red herrings here and there that we didn't even see the nuances of his narcissism. And how pure of a sociopath he truly was.
@debrajenkins5390
@debrajenkins5390 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can tell that she knew he did it but tried to conceal the crime for and from Grace. Everyone knew but Grace.
@amyj3625
@amyj3625 3 жыл бұрын
I think they portrayed how insidious people with NPD actually are really well. Having a twist ending would have been more infuriating for me. Grace having the narcissist in her life end up in prison would been the happiest possible ending if this were based on real life.
@JozefSzekeresartist
@JozefSzekeresartist 3 жыл бұрын
I loved your alternate ending. However I think the point of the story and series (for me) was to show the depth of cunning of a true Narcissist. So masterful was his charming public face, that even his phycologist wife was deceived by his facade... till finally she realised who he really was. I really loved how the bridge jump attempt was really just another manipulation attempt, to get what he thought was a sympathetic running embrace from Grace, only to find that both Grace and Henry have finally turned their backs on him. The last expression of a narcissist scorned, I thought was perfect. He never truely loved his wife and child, only loved their adoration of him.
@kaffeice7
@kaffeice7 Жыл бұрын
amazingly put
@Elle-xf8mw
@Elle-xf8mw 3 жыл бұрын
Your suggestion sound more like a regular detective story, instead this show was psychological more profound, It was a bout how a narcissist psychopaths can manipulate people and how they are able to have a double life without us noticing, the enduing was perfect
@alexlazzerly3677
@alexlazzerly3677 3 жыл бұрын
Is this video for real? Sylvia being the killer would have been so freaking obvious, and making her the bitter jealous lover is such an overused and boring trope. Almost everyone on Twitter was predicting it was her.
@detectivestudios7699
@detectivestudios7699 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, those were exactly my thoughts. Thanks for making this video, it really helped organizing my thoughts on the mini series.
@user-qs2nw2kv4t
@user-qs2nw2kv4t 3 жыл бұрын
I was 100% hoping that the friend would be the real killer as well. Why would Lily Rabe take this role otherwise? What is she even really doing in the show?
@Natasha_4
@Natasha_4 Жыл бұрын
1) how is her Roll insignificant if almost everyone in the comments are talking about her. 2) She played a huge role with exposing Jonathan to the court. Without her, Grace would have never been able to take the stand(.)
@Annelita1116
@Annelita1116 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I have missed you! Every day I check for the videos.
@JorgeFontan
@JorgeFontan 3 жыл бұрын
The ending was like a magic trick where something disappears in a spectacular fashion, there is great misdirection throughout and at the moment we are ready and anticipating a great reappearance the magician says "it was in my pocket the whole time".
@ZaraAltair
@ZaraAltair 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding! My response, too. What I posted yesterday. It was Little Red Riding Hood disguised as a chick flick. One episode of getting ready. Four episodes of the woods. One episode of escaping to find the woodcutter masquerading as police vehicles. Great acting did not save this story.
@ashleypina8371
@ashleypina8371 3 жыл бұрын
The ending made sense for effect they were going for in the movie. I too was disappointed when I didn't get a big twist ending. But the whole point of the show wasn’t to have a shock ending. It was to make audience wonder what it would be like to be married to a narcissist and someone capable of murder. Even during the show, I felt sympathetic and sorry for husband, which is the effect narcissists ultimately have. They are so likable so of course we would look at other people. Show was effective in that it put us under same spell as wife. We wanted it to be someone else and deep down we questioned whether he did it.
@bb-bd5ne
@bb-bd5ne 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Sylvia as well for the same reasons that you stated. Also in episode one, when Grace is in the middle of a session and her phone rings with a text from the school, all it says is something about a tragedy, not who in fact was killed. moments later, Sylvia calls and specifically says it was Elena that got killed. When Grace questions how she knows this, Sylvia quickly states she knew from the text the school sent out....but we had just seen the text did not say that and Grace had read the text but did not know it was Elena until she was told which confirms it was not in that text. Right there, that gave away that she was the killer but somehow that did not end up happening. Also, I see absolutely no point in mentioning a second affair but not saying who it was unless it was Sylvia... yet it wasn't. I think since we are told to be searching for clues everything should've been more intentional. Hope that alll makes sense
@gmoneycashmoney23
@gmoneycashmoney23 3 жыл бұрын
Your ending made some wild leaps that would have been horrendous.
@paulwillard81
@paulwillard81 3 жыл бұрын
for real. I don't know why all the folks on here are praising this moron's "ending" and how it's somehow better than what we got. Jonathan Fraser being the killer all along was the perfect way to end the story.
@paulwillard81
@paulwillard81 3 жыл бұрын
@Tweed Penguin uhhh ... how was this a Lifetime movie ending? The ending of the Undoing was perfect as it was. FOH with that, "Penguin."
@martymillman9487
@martymillman9487 3 жыл бұрын
i felt the same way? like why have lily rabe at all if she wasn't gonna kill
@malmaller2375
@malmaller2375 3 жыл бұрын
Umm maybe that was the point?
@jamesg8175
@jamesg8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@malmaller2375 100%.
@illimattic
@illimattic 3 жыл бұрын
As if Lily Rabe is a bigger star than some of the others lol
@joemanco1075
@joemanco1075 3 жыл бұрын
What show were watching?
@salmaaljaboby116
@salmaaljaboby116 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that Grace suffered from dissociative identity disorder and that one of her multiple personalities murdered Elena. Like that would’ve been a crazy plot twist in my opinion
@arkae09
@arkae09 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just finished watching this series and somehow the ending didn't quite lived up to how good the whole series was.
@dufferjules
@dufferjules 3 жыл бұрын
Liked it just the way it was. David Kelly is a cinematic genius. I love everything he does. I was riveted.
@annam2718
@annam2718 3 жыл бұрын
You’re alive! I’m so happy
@fanchonedgar5283
@fanchonedgar5283 3 жыл бұрын
You are COMPLETELY right in your thought process. I thought from Episode 2 that it was Sylvia and was disappointed it ended the way it did.
@ansorn
@ansorn 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it simply doesn't need a big twist in the end. I was hoping that it did not go too cheesy and I was satisfied. Good ending
@nestorar
@nestorar 3 жыл бұрын
The signs of a narcissist and master manipulator were there; for me the confirmation was the Skype call with his mother.
@debrajenkins5390
@debrajenkins5390 3 жыл бұрын
They needed more inner dialogue from Grace showing how her clinical training would kick in as she analyzed the growing list of presenting symptoms and facts. Accusing her son should have been the last straw. Then she could have used those skills to profile her own husband more effectively using buzz words on the stand court officials would recognize with more power than she did. Expert witness against her husband LOL.
@christya2488
@christya2488 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvia???!!! First, the "one other affair" was a lie. He probably had multiple affairs during the entire marriage. Sylvia is the last person that would have made sense as the killer. The only other possible, and by possible I mean not really, other people that might have made sense as the killer would have been her son or her father. However, from the moment her husband saw Elena at the party, and was so completely unfazed and unaffected, I knew he was a sociopath. If you weren't 99% sure he was the killer, from the first episode, you weren't paying attention. They threw in just enough curveballs and red herrings to make you doubt and make the rather obvious ending exciting. Overall excellent show, that ended the way it was supposed to.
@pinanina1263
@pinanina1263 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@snoozefighting
@snoozefighting 3 жыл бұрын
It's on us, the viewers, for projecting more onto this show than it ever was supposed to be. I didn't consider this a murder mystery until I saw others online talking about it as one. Would it have been more fun if it was more like what you're describing? Hell yes.
@Ms.Yana83
@Ms.Yana83 2 жыл бұрын
I like your take on this. I actually thought it would be Grace that turned out to be the killer. There were parts in the beginning where she seemed “off” and some of the flashbacks made me think that Grace and Elena were in a romantic relationship. The end would reveal that Grace had a mental breakdown after finding out her husband cheated on her which made her kill Elena and since Grace is losing her mind, she forgot she did it.
@ruthbennett7563
@ruthbennett7563 3 жыл бұрын
My cathartic reaction, not my expectations, has been subverted by this series finale. I was disappointed with the ending... but not because of Johnathan’s “big red flag” guilt. To my eye, he was clearly a narcissist & the murderer. The suspense hung on the ethical conundra & potential reactions of those caught up in his horrible acts. It wasn’t the somewhat unclear point of law used to finally bring him to justice for all his deceitful actions, as well as his violent crime of murder. It was the implausibly melodramatic helicopter chase. I almost wondered if it was some fantastical delusion in Grace’s unreliable narrative. It almost made it impossible to see that Hugh Grant was actually acting (usually, he’s just a type-cast nebbishy charming Brit-guy) well. Given the jarring stylistic break with the rest of the series... it almost seems possible he could’ve been “sharknado-ed” off the bridge while Grace & Henry did a “walk away from the explosion” final freeze-frame. Ugh. Grace won a Pyrrhic victory to take him down. He shattered their lives, indelibly traumatized Henry & Miguel, destroyed her professional & personal credibility... there needed to be some scene to address that finding him guilty isn’t enough.
@gabrielmasaoteranishijanss2614
@gabrielmasaoteranishijanss2614 3 жыл бұрын
Your second ending was exactly what I thought was going to happen and I was so mad it didn’t
@djstud1987
@djstud1987 10 ай бұрын
I predicted Sylvia to be the murderer as well for exactly the same reason as you mentioned. I thought I was good at predicting twists but alas this one got me.
@dianaparker4807
@dianaparker4807 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin discussed the possibility of Sylvia! Well done and it would have been a great twist 👍
@sacman3001
@sacman3001 3 жыл бұрын
Clever! I bought it. Thanks, I like your ending much better.
@rozanahwirt1311
@rozanahwirt1311 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Love your ideas.
@Miha-Konat
@Miha-Konat 3 жыл бұрын
What if Sylvia is the killer, but he still went to prison? Maybe he started to belive that he killed her, since he could be somehow emotionally distressed?
@lilsis982001
@lilsis982001 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue with this video is the thing with Sylvia and the prosecutor. While it was stated that knew each other, I think that it was deeper than that. I believe that they were romantically involved but something happened to drive them apart. It would make sense with the awkwardness in the courtroom but paid off when they were in the bathroom. I also think that Sylvia was there for Grace the way that she was due to her having feelings for Grace. I wanted Sylvia to be the killer too but for a completely different reason. It could have been her way of protecting Grace.
@agatahb
@agatahb 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the ending - the show was more about the things we sometimes don't know about our closest ones. Hugh was GREAT in this role and if he were innocent, it would not have such an impact......
@dharmaofdog7676
@dharmaofdog7676 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible the care they took superbly crafting suspense elements and then dropped a BIG "Nah, never mind." So happy to hear I wasn't the only one that felt not only ripped off but even pissed off!
@ezlimata94
@ezlimata94 3 жыл бұрын
This was the problem with GoT, looking for the big twist and surprise ending ruined that show. I thought the ending was good. It just seemed a little rushed in the end.
@jessicasheahan7580
@jessicasheahan7580 3 жыл бұрын
Omg same! I literally just finished GOT never watched it when it was out. Knew nothing about it. Except the ending was terrible. Binged it in a month. And I was waiting for it to get terrible like everyone said it would... but I liked it?! It could have gone on a lot longer. But it was awesome. Maybe binging a show after the hype and not rooting for anyone in particular (besides Arya) is why I didn’t hate the ending.
@djqueessence9253
@djqueessence9253 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's the point of this show. Is to show us that all of our "theories" are just insane ideas we've created from our experience watching TV. The truth was always there and we just ignored the signs. My man was lying for years, cheating for years, etc. In my craziest mind, I thought she wasn't really dead and that she had a body double. She seemed weird. But the truth is he killed a weird girl. Simple works. I'm gonna go rewatch for missed clues!
@sceneboy696
@sceneboy696 3 жыл бұрын
I’d just like to point out yet another outstanding performance by Nicole Kidman. She is seriously a phenomenal actress.
@LoveLace391
@LoveLace391 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they were leading a path to the wife she was super guarded about her feelings.
@SuperChivasLover
@SuperChivasLover 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been rather cooler had her father somehow been on it too. Maybe helped cover it up or something. Definitely darker and Freudian.
@kenten
@kenten 3 жыл бұрын
Now "Dr Jackal and Mr Hyde" is an inventive adaptation I could get behind! 2:18
@aden_za3359
@aden_za3359 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand those that say we didn't suspect Jonathan to be the killer cause he was charming. Like wtf the dude was an asshole that had no charm about him, he took advantage of his job as a doctor which is sickening and he was a pathological liar, kept lying about him being fired, about his infedelity, about his past. I hated his character and was stunned when Grace foolishly decided to bail him out. The only thing that kept the viewers not suspecting him was that it would've been too obvious and that we were continuously being fed all kinds of clues that were throwing us out and that's all to it.
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the book, but the show really went in hard with the thing about John being "responsible" for his sister's death and being an un-remorseful sociopath, which was a complete crock. He was a kid and was making a sandwich, not drinking with friends or pushing her into traffic; he was definitely not negligent and she could have just as easily snuck out while the parents were making dinner. I felt his mother was lying to frame him because she still (wrongly) blamed him. 😒
@Boyde712
@Boyde712 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, no offense to any Brits, but in a culture known for stoicism, you could sort of rationalise him locking up his feelings and running away to avoid them at the first possible opportunity.
@paulwillard81
@paulwillard81 3 жыл бұрын
He's absolutely to blame for her death. 14 years old is not a "kid" ... And in the book, it's quite clear that Jonathan is the killer of Elena very early on. Called Magdala in the book. He's on the run for a good majority of the book actually and is eventually caught overseas and gets extradited back to the USA. There is no trial in the book because Jonathan is on the lam for most of it. And in the book, it was a little brother who was killed, but directly by Jonathan's hand. The family left the little brother in his care while the little kid had the flu. Jonathan then locked his little brother out of the house in the cold, basically freezing him to death. Honestly, that would've been a WAY better reveal to keep in the show version here. Although, it would've truly cemented Jonathan as a crazy sociopath and not given us the "whodunnit" type of mystery that we got from this show.
@JAWNDOEmusic
@JAWNDOEmusic 3 жыл бұрын
idk i think we can now assume because hugh grant was a liar all along etc that maybe he lied about that to his family too as he was the only one when she 'got out' and was intentionally neglectful etc
@LunaticAstrology
@LunaticAstrology 3 жыл бұрын
So agree! And also thought was going to end with Sylvia as the murderer. Ending was so bad.
@richardthompson7838
@richardthompson7838 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree: How about fooling the audience (who read the book) into thinking it was someone else through the artifice of narrative misdirection? Grace's kiss, the walk, the phone calls, the painting...the mallet in Henry's violin case, Franklin's nighttime survey of the victim's apt? if you can introduce just reasonable doubt to someone who has already read the book, that's successful writing. This wasn't about who could've killed her. It was about who could best charm their way out of making us think they couldn't do it, despite evidence to the contrary.
@HungL0W
@HungL0W 3 жыл бұрын
A possible review of the dune Graphic novel in the near future?
@waltzingmatilda9092
@waltzingmatilda9092 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean but the scene in the washroom wasn’t pointless, Nicole Kidman previously asked Lily Rabe’s character to do something for her - it was Nicole that made the washroom scene happen, that’s an important part of the story because it proves even more than Nicole knew exactly what she was doing/planning by going up on the stand :)
@marcelocunha3894
@marcelocunha3894 3 жыл бұрын
i was waiting for episode 7 =D
@katerinazlatarova4088
@katerinazlatarova4088 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@valeriebickford3329
@valeriebickford3329 3 жыл бұрын
I totally, totally, totally agree!!! Nice for the confirmation coz I thought the same.
@ManikantJaiswal29
@ManikantJaiswal29 3 жыл бұрын
the biggest plot point that you missed while trying to make it a twist ending is that the murder weapon was found in the lakehouse which Sylvia couldn't have accessed.
@MattAronowitz
@MattAronowitz 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the killer should have been Grace and the whole trial was a set up to make sure Jonathan was found guilty. All of her visions of Elena’s death in the first few episodes would have been actual visions
@betacross3675
@betacross3675 2 жыл бұрын
It's well executed cause you'll keep on guessing who the killer is. But highlighting the use of psychology to determine a psychotic person is remarkable. I mean Grace never observe her husband to be but the details she got aftet talking to his mom was compelling.
@marshelebryant9530
@marshelebryant9530 3 жыл бұрын
You missed a huge plot point with Catherine (the prosecuter) and Sylvia. The reason why Catherine knew to ask Grace the questions that showed Jonathon was a psychopath was because of her connection to Sylvia. When Grace asked Sylvia to meet her for walk, she gave her that information so she could feed it to the prosecution. And personally, I liked the ending. I liked that the whole time, the audience really believed that Jonathon was innocent (and that it could have been Grace, her father, or even Henry) but it turned out that he actually did it.
@jenniferholt5194
@jenniferholt5194 3 жыл бұрын
I love your whole "Sylvia " angle- perfect
@dianesemenza6302
@dianesemenza6302 3 жыл бұрын
spot on. I thought that too.
@charlottemiller6180
@charlottemiller6180 3 жыл бұрын
This is not David E Kelley’s week. First the whole controversy with Big sky and using sex trafficking as entertainment and now this ending to a show that was so good until the finale
@Myrkonius
@Myrkonius 3 жыл бұрын
"and there is another meaningless scene with them in the washroom" You are clearly not that bright.
@mannm5240
@mannm5240 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really appreciated the rather sudden unraveling that took place as Jonathan's character was revealed to be a sociopath, as well as the constant question of "is he or isn't he the killer"? It was superb how until the very moment it's revealed through that scene where we see him actually admit he did it to Henry, there's this lingering doubt as to whether or not it was really him. As Grace's character had largely been associated with the flashbacks, there's real doubt as to whether or not the scene of Jonathan killing Elena is even real at first. That's the beauty of the story: a depiction of people's tendency toward self-deception when faced with a truth that is overwhelming and/or unfavorable.
@sarabordagaray0166
@sarabordagaray0166 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't dislike the ending as much as everyone did, but your alternative version is simply amazing
@mzjones6
@mzjones6 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!!! You are not alone Amazing show with a sad ass ending☹️ The reason Sylvia would’ve been a good killer is because the show did a good job of making you think there were other viable suspects throughout the show, I thought Grace was sleepwalking and was the killer, I thought the son or grandfather or Sylvia did it at some point as well. But the last ep seemed slow and rushed at the same time, I’m disappointed
@denisesalles7248
@denisesalles7248 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're nuts, and I think the ending was perfect.
@slowpie
@slowpie 3 жыл бұрын
i havent started this show yet....should i? Sounds like many folks arent happy about the ending. Also when is your mandalorian ep 5 video coming out? And have you checked out His dark materials? Its a great show!!
@nranderson778
@nranderson778 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your ending!
@TheRichardchaney
@TheRichardchaney 3 жыл бұрын
I like your ending and as you say I can think of one for Franklin (Jack Nicholson ending is a great fit) how did he know where Elena lived? Grace as dissociative, and Fernando with Sylvia's comment as foreshadowing (why did he follow Grace around?). Like Grace I had confirmation bias and was sure it can't be the most obvious suspect. In the murder flashback I was positive Johnathan was going to leave with Elena being alive only to be killed latter by someone else. So it was a surprise ending for me.
@alessandroturelli3352
@alessandroturelli3352 3 жыл бұрын
You did not understand the ending. The show was not a whodunit kinda show, it was about confirmation bias, they even drop the concept in the middle of the episode. We, the audience, wouldn't accept the obvious answer because we're used about fiction having plot twists, exactly like Grace wouldn't accept his husband being a sociopath. I personally loved the ending, they keep you guessing until the very fucking end. The chase scene, while not perfect I agree, looked to me like it was Jonathan desperately trying to make his son confess for the murder, but no, it was still him.
@alessandroturelli3352
@alessandroturelli3352 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest your version of the ending would've been like, who cares. Plot twists just to do plot twists, Cynthia as a character was on the side and it wouldn't have resonate at all. I could understand one of the immediate family members being the actual murderer, because at least they were completely fleshed out characters. But Cynthia? Who cares about her. It would've been so boring honestly.
@FactsNC300
@FactsNC300 3 жыл бұрын
I love it. You should write a script!!!
@ellavirg
@ellavirg 3 жыл бұрын
Admittedly, your idea is pretty good and well laid out, but it's the second-best idea. The best idea is the killer being Hugh Grant : the twist is there is no twist (not exactly); we all expected it to turn out to be someone unexpected. There were so many clues pointing to so many people, and then, of course, it was, actually him all the while - the least likely choice in a way, and yet, the obvious one. I thought the ending redeemed the show
@fg4462
@fg4462 3 жыл бұрын
I literally came up with the exact same ending while watching with friends. Before the finale we discussed who we thought it was and I said your exact alternate ending. I even said her daughter was the child of the husband from the affair.
@MeJustMeOnlyMeJustMe
@MeJustMeOnlyMeJustMe 3 жыл бұрын
If Sylvia turned out to be the murderer, it would have turned this brilliant character study into a B-level whodunit that’s been done to bits. I’m very happy with the ending we got. I think people had a different expectation going into the series and that’s more of a marketing fail than a failure of the series itself.
@rosestone5091
@rosestone5091 3 жыл бұрын
The problem was that the series was written like a whodunnit instead of a character study with all the red herrings. About 2/3s the way through I thought wow this would have been great as a character study about the wife’s denial despite her profession as the audience knows how guilty the husband was (and his psychopathology).The red herrings without a surprise or payoff ending is what left the audience unsatisfied. IMO it would have been more satisfying to watch the wife (and son) develop to stop looking at the husband and the world through the idealized construct in her mind. That final realization in the finale would have been more poignant than the rushed scenes in the actual ending IMO. I wonder how the novel approached the story.
@johndillon6705
@johndillon6705 3 жыл бұрын
If everyone thought there was this great unexpected twist and there’s not.....that’s a pretty great unexpected twist. If the show ended just as you expected, that’s not good.
@ElibelDublin
@ElibelDublin 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on, i was also leaning towards Silvia, for the same reasons, or maybe the grandfather, though that made a little less sense. Have not read the book, but it was so obvious who the killer would be, i was almost expecting a twist. Also agree that the ending was too rushed.
@bossgandy
@bossgandy 3 жыл бұрын
I felt the same, the ending was a big let down, it should’ve been someone else who is the actual killer even if John was convicted. Also I felt it was crazy for John to forget all the DNA and take the murder weapon and not to dispose it? If someone planted it there to blame him, that makes sense
@rixx46
@rixx46 3 жыл бұрын
I have been fostering this same idea about Sylvia - nearly verbatim to what he says in the video. Miniseries are like shaggy-dog jokes - the longer they run on, the better the punchline needs to be to justify the long set up. THE UNDOING is 2 hours of story jammed into a 6-hour bag. WTF? Very unsatisfying. The book was from the POV of GRACE (the Kidman character) which you can sustain in a book but when you have multiple perspectives as you need in a long cinematic treatment. It became increasingly hard to care about Grace (as the protagonist) when we KNOW she KNOWS that her husband fucked another woman with whom he has a baby - THEN returned to the scene of the bang to see her brutally beaten to death - ANDTHEN came home to fuck HER! And she, an intelligent, educated adult woman, was OKAY WITH THAT so long as he wasn't the murderer? Who can care about a character that passive? SO much filler that was ONLY there for misdirection. WHY would he keep the hammer and not throw the hammer in the lake, let alone carry it around and HIDE it complete with her blood and his DNA and prints? He had DAYS to sort this out. LUCKY that the boy happened to find it, and didn't just toss it himself. "Yeah, I'm just a 14-year-old boy with only three of us in this big lake house RUNNING THE DISHWASHER TWICE FOR NOT REASON." ALL pointless misdirections along with Grace conveniently wandering past the murder scene. Conveniently, no one ever asked Johnathan how long he was gone between fucking the girlfriend and returning to find her dead - or where he went... or why he left and returned... There are countless instances where demanding the answer to a few simple questions would topple this like Jenga tower. The 'twist' of Grace hanging him during cross-examination was a lame effort to copy the classic WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION - instead, we got WITLESS FOR THE PROSECUTION. A lawyer informed me there IS no law that says a wife cannot testify against her husband - hell yeah, she can if she knows he is guilty. But she cannot be COMPELLED BY LAW to testify against him. Grace could have just said, "yeah, he fucking killed her" game over. The only thing retrospectively interesting about this is how they managed to snowball us for 6 hours only to give us the lame ending of a Lifetime Movie.
@kevinmccauley5936
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