“Hey the Scarlets are back!” “Oh wait, never mind.”

Nobbel made a video longer than what the actual questline took xD

Gnomes over here like "sweet! The alliance will liberate Gnomeregon next right? Right?"

The Scarlet Crusade is now the Team Rocket of Azeroth

I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you making these videos. Your channel was what got me into Warcraft lore, and even though I don't play the game, I still like to know what's going on. I hope your channel sticks around to cover the Worldsoul saga!

I gave up the game years ago, retired my Worgen Hunter to the Hunter's Lodge but always wanted to reclaim Gilneas. Nice to know it happened.

I expected a longer and more epic story from "Reclaim a City"

Listen, all I'm saying is that voice acting on Lord Darius Crowley is fucking phenomenal

Only thing I was disappointed for was how short the quest line was. I mean.. I also have to ask.. we waited for.. this? I mean I wasn't surprised that Genn prolly wants to help Andyin now since he is coming back and he has to leave Gilneas for someone to rule over. But.. seriously? Waaay too short. Way too anticlimactic. After worgens was introduced, I became worgen main for life and I was so ready to claim our home back.. so uh, glad we did but.. seriously? Bunch of Scarlet squishies grave robbing? Comoon.. !!

As someone that really like gilneas and worgen. This whole thing feels like a spit on the face on not only the gilneans but the forsaken as well. I mean they made the gilneans look so weak and pathetic that they need the forsaken TO GIVE THEM BACK THEIR CITY. I'll understand if the alliance was helping but the main force and the spear tip should be compromise of gilneans mainly. The forsaken also look weak because they apparently let the scarlet crusade comeback STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE OVER GILNEAS, you know the place that was supposed to be under forsaken control. I use to like Lilian and Tess but the way they are use is super frustrating and I am not gonna even start on what they did to greymane. Amazing story telling!

That entire cinematic just felt like they were setting up Genn's death. The entire time watching it, I just kept thinking "yea this dude is dying soon." Was like in a movie where a soldier is talking about "when I get home to my lady, I'm gonna love her right, and start a family" and then he dies in the next scene.

God, why is it the scarlet crusade you have to take it back from? That makes absolutely no sense. Just make it a faction of the forsaken who still follows Sylvanas, a rebelgroup. Forsaken took Gilneas so any true retaking should be from the undead.

Another Scarlet Crusade defeat to the list...

Thanks for including Liam and showing what happened to him. Always cool to see the Alliance side of things.

such a warm fuzzy feel coming back to the place were totalbiscuit conviced me to play officially wow back in cata alpha, i got mix feeling with how weak genn was showed and why from nothing he gave the keys of the kingdom to a rouge (yes her daughter but she is a rouge for over a decade) with shaddy conections, that should have be a great story of her gainging the throne after gilneans rebuild at least a bit the nation, looking foward to see what will happen wwith the lands of crowley bc that shoudl be gilnean lands too(shadowfang keep revamp?). Another missing thing its Halford Ramsey, not a single mention of him or alpha prime or even the wolf cult (deleted from canon?) Ill will be always first a gilnean rather than alliance adventurer. FOR GILNEAS! PS: such a nice view a painting of a woman and not a bowl of fruits! (and the creepy child paint that blinks is still here, nice)

How does blizzard expect anyone to take the scarlet crusade seriously when all thry carry are Ls?

"Reclaim" is a big word...

10:40 🎵 Secret tunnel! Secret tunnel! Through the mountain! Secret secret secret secret tunnel! yeah! 🎶

Also 3 NPCs in Hayward Fishery (Hayward family, 2 dead).

Even if I have not played retail for several years, it is allways a comfort knowing im able to tune in here in order to catch up on my favorite characters ❤

They're clearly putting too much on genn. He wanted out of the alliance because he didn't agree with the alliance even managed to put a negeglectful father spin on his relationship with tess when she barely had any screentime to begin with.

I still think they could have done better than the Scarlets for an antagonist, they hardly have any association with the Worgen except being neighbors. I think a far better story would have been that since being driven from Fenris Isle by either the Forsaken or the Scarlet Crusade, Ivar and the Bloodfangs have taken up their territory in Gilneas where they shelter in the derelict Gilneas capital and hunt the bountiful deer and feral horses of the surrounding countryside. The feral worgen may have had an alliance of convenience to fight the Forsaken but they have no loyalty to Gilneas or the Alliance, ensuring their own needs are met and wolves do not share their territory. So it is full pack on pack warfare as the Gilneans retake their lands from the Bloodfangs who laid claim to their home. It would also be a perfect way to bring the Gilneans home as lets not forget before the Cataclysm it was the feral worgen who invaded Gilneas and broke the country, so it is fitting way to bring the Gilnean story full circle; they triumphed over the beast within them and the beasts before them.

I'm truly disappointed that blizz didn't involve the night elves. I mean, they literally were the only ones that helped Gilneans escape the Forsaken and even gave them refuge in Teldrassil. I'm sure Genn would have kindly asked who was left to help and give the night elves a refuge if the sought one. It would only be fair. But what do I know? Blizz isn't exactly stellar at storytelling. I mean, how fucking long has Gnomregan been lost to the gnomes?

This should have happened during BFA, would have made better sense and a better enemy.

Pretty sad how much of the cool lore and fantasy behind these races is seemingly going away. Feels like Blizzard is almost rejecting the werewolf fantasy by making the new leader a non-worgen, after explicitely telling her how unimportant it is to her people. Similiar to undead who seem to be spending most of their time these days doing apologia for their own existence.

Have to agree with a lot ot the comments down here that mention the actual storytelling/questline in the game being lackluster at best. A few quick quests slapped together to tell a story as quickly and effeciently as possible If they keep doing these this way people will never get invested

Gilneas was the best starting zone, and the story of its fall was easily among the better stories specific to World of Warcraft. Having it end with a narrative wet fart like this is incredibly disappointing. But not quite as disappointing as the city the Horde, specifically the Forsaken, pushed the Gilnean people out of with chemical warfare just suddenly being welcoming to them because they killed a few zealots. Retroactively makes the starting zone a massive disappointment because this disaster is how it ends. It's like a later season of GoT, and I hated everything about it. If the choices were between this or another decade plus of waiting, I would have picked waiting. Hell, even if that second option were literally nothing ever I'd have picked it.

How they took it back? Lemme give you the TL;DR... The Forsaken plagued the land some more while everybody but the Gilneans took the city from a faction that doesn't exist anymore in the span if 30 minutes, after which Genn outed himself as too old for modern sensitivities and betrayed his people again by ceding the crown to a cutthroat with no leadership skills.

I wish for Blizzard to hire you for a future expansion to narrate some part of it. It would be awsome. 😊 You got me back to Wow recently and now I want to make a Worgen. 😂

What is the actual reason the Scarlets were in that city? Was it just because of being pushed from Silverpine? If so, where do they go now?

10:38 SECRET TUNNEEEEEEL! Someone had to say it.

The Scarlet Crusade are the Team Rocket of Azeroth

so, we're condoning the use of blight now? cool...

huh? the scarlet crusade still exist? it feels like we're just bullying them now....

Undead wiped gilneas. Wiped teldrassil. And are now like nah heres your land back please forgive us. I cant

I don’t get why they made Genn sound like such a sad lost puppy during the reclamation quests. Even after his son died he sounded strong and proud.

The poor scarlet crusade, they live a waking nightmare hunted by monsters across time and kingdoms.

Well it’s about time we finally went back to Gilneas. I thought they’d never get around to that

the fact that this video is longer than the actual gameplay speaks volumes...

Build it up like the night elves new home. Then be forgotten like silvermoon as no one will go out of their way to visit unless forced too xD

I haven't brushed up on his lore for a while, but another interesting idea could've been for Godfrey to have faked his death after Shadowfang Keep, and built up his forces to take Gilneas for himself once the time is right.

Thank you again for another great vid Nobbel. I am getting ready to finish this.

Do the people from Drustvar in Kul'Tiras have any ties with the city of Gilneas? They have some paralell themes going on.

Wait why the hell are the forsaken using the plague again???

I wonder where the scarlet crusade keeps coming from.

The fact that Genn is stepping down is honestly huge news, he’s been king since the very first game (no way of knowing but I’m sure) and def since the second game,

You know what annoys me about all of these? During Legion if you were a rogue you worked with Tess and Lillian. Why couldn't blizz put in some special dialogue for the rogues? It's like what sword? But, instead what order hall?

I literally laughed at how shit this was in game. Fr. I WAS GOBSMACKED. it took about as long as the shit attempt at emotional family drama cutscene they put in at the end of the quest. Everything wrong with current blizzard showcased in the retaking of gilnaes. It was a joke that they even made a point of mentioning it.

I was dissapointed by this quest, really short, lackluster antagonist and they didnt even revamp the zone at all or add anything into it except one street of npc traders. Genn also in my opinion acted totally out of character for most of it. Him handing the kingdom over to Tess after finally getting it back made me think of that toy story meme "i don't wanna play with you anymore".

"I wonder if those Defias fellows are still available" Oh my god. Edvin is spinning in his grave rn XD Edit: did research Its quote of Genn as champ from 2018 in HotS "Once Gilneas has been reclaimed, it will need to be rebuilt. I wonder if those Defias fellows are still available."

Should've fought the crusade, feral worgen and undead

tbh. I think thats a lowpoint. The overall idea to reclaim Gilneas comes damn late but is actually a good one. But boi... what is this. There is so much stuff that makes no sence. They could done it so much better D:

Yet another underwhelming question, chain and story that feels rushed and Disney fied. I was really looking forward to this and boy did they disappoint in game.

What do you think Vyranoth’s aspectral color is ? white? Cyan? Silver?

As a Gilneas main, it is welcome to have one's homeland back, but it is sad how Genn has now just bitched out in favor of putting his nobody daughter in charge. I think the cinematic they went with was in bad taste and nonsensical. I really dislike the writing team and how they have been writing the characters for the past years. It does not feel like Warcraft, does not feel like the ingame universe, it fucking feels like a bad soap opera/some movie that has to have "healing and accepting" idiocy in the story. "Boohoohoo father, you always liked your son better than me, and even though you should have every right to be mourning him given how you lost him, I am still gonna bitch about you because you care so much about the dead boohoo hoo". It is not like he is the monarch who has a kingdom to run who was grooming his soon, his successor his whole life or anything. It is not like you were destined to marry off to some noble in order to strengthen alliances and such. It is not as if the kingdom fell and your father had enough shit to deal with overseeing his refugee people as well as managing a shit ton of duty towards his new status within the Alliance. Like, I understand that stupid "for modern audiences" crap means you don't want to be in connection with what things were actually like for example back in the WC2 days, but I honestly do not care about dumbass family drama where the daughter is being all butthurt when they are literally royalty. Honestly, I feel no connection to the modern writing and I don't feel it has anything to do with Warcraft. It is literally just trying to take you out of the universe to insert writers fanfic. TL;DR, still not coming back to play modern WoW, gonna stick with classic and really enjoy Cata when it releases again~

My one question is when it comes to the war game, now that we're taking the city and it's been retaken and darnassus is been burned to the ground, where do we do the starting zone still

We waited over a decade... for this?

This quest was shorter than expected, but by no means bad. I really liked Genn's conversation with Tess near the end. What I've always found interesting about the control of Gilneas is it's been inconsistent from the start. The Worgen starting experience ends with the Forsaken in control. During the Forsaken leveling in Silverpine Forest, there's a brief quest where you visit Gilneas, pick up the bodies of Lord Godfrey, Lord Walden, and Baron Ashbury, and leave. During that quest, we see the 7th Legion occupy the capital. Gilneas also becomes a PvP battleground. In the rogue legendary quest chain, the city is occupied by bandits led by a black dragon, one of Wrathion's targets. After that, Gilneas' state was mostly unknown, although Exploring the Eastern Kingdoms claimed it was under the Bloodfang Pack's control. At the end of Shadowlands, if you play the cleansing of Lordaeron quest as an Alliance character, Calia sends the player back to Genn with message stating she'll pull back the Forsaken from Gilneas. In this quest, the Scarlet Crusade is there, before it's finally reclaimed by Greymane. So Gilneas has been occupied by the Forsaken, the 7th Legion, bandits, the Bloodfangs, the Forsaken again, the Scarlets, until finally, it's back in Gilnean hands.

Did they change Genn's voice actor?

It's wonderful to see Gen while talking about handing over leadership of his beloved city, that an important figure would be there to witness it, a member of the ministry of silly wipes 17:53.

Too late I stopped carrying in shadowlands

My first WoW character was a Worgen. I don't play WoW anymore, but I'm glad to know they've got their home back.

is it just me or genn is like 20 years younger in the tess cinematic?

Meh, i expected so much more, q line was too short and predictable. It felt like theyve said:" we need his daughter to take over, just make it quick. " As a worgen i went bk to veldrakken thinking i should prolly race change...

I forgot how fucking terrible crowleys voice was. I feel bad for laughing at it but holy hell.

Blizz hates wow. First they burn down teldrassil and make the night elves story about vengeance on the horde. But then they go my little pony friendship is magic and make their new home cofaction because night elves suddenly want peace. Then they fuck the entire story of the worgen and make it so that not only can they not take gilneas back alone, but they need help from the fucking forsaken of all people, Genn doesn't even lead the assault and he relinquished his kingship to his nobody daughter only to make gilneas fucking cofaction. I really wanted to come back when Chris Metzen returned, I hoped he'd make it good again, but it's just as dog shit as it was before.

Is there any word from Blizz on wether Gilneas is actually a duel faction city?

They need to make a third faction now since the alliance and horde are basically the same faction these days. Those who disagree with the Alliance/Horde Alliance

The sad passages are performed so incredibly well by the VA - But outside of that, they all sound so exhausted. Like they are done working with Blizzard.

If people remember the WoD orcs and at one point to recruit the Mag`har i believe you saw the alternate draenai behaving pretty much like scarlet (if you dont follow the light you dead), i`m curious if they will move in that direction

They just ruined Genn for his much better Daughter, the same way they did to poor Rastakhan. I'm glad I get my Lore from you Nobbel because I ain't playing World of Peacecraft and Feelings.

this means that we will see the island of Kezan again, since blizzard has to give the goblins their home again, so that they don't make a faction difference!

So continues Blizzard's obsession with "out with the old". Just because Dragonflight is better than Shadowlands, doesn't nean its good. I'm noticing a trend with Blizzard, each expansion starts off strong and gets gradually more boring and shitty as the patches role out.

6:16 did his voice actor change??? am i going crazy. he sounds so different to me

Man its bin a long time sins we first steped into gilneas with our wargen and today we take it back. So many years ago, feels like a big moment atleast for WoW.

Uhhhhh..... that last sentence "I wonder the the Defias fellas are still around"...... im not so sure if they are interested in rebuilding another city for the alliance.. they seemed pretty pissed about not getting payed and then getting murdered as reward

Just make sure you pay them Genn

Can this be done as horde char as well?

Could you make a video on the npcs with dialog in the Amirdrassil zone (like you mentioned the npcs in Gilneas post retaking)?

world of friendship again

🎵 Secret tunnellllllll, secret tunnelllllllll. 🎵

damn, why are these epilogue cutscenes actually kinda good while also being kinda sappy. Poor ol' Genn.

I played this quest, but was a little disappointed. Honestly, with the Scarlet Crusade now making a comeback you would think they would pose a much bigger threat with their fanaticism than before. It would become so problematic, it sjows in their destruction. When facing Fairbell, I expected her to do drastic measures like bursting out of the wondows, whiel riding on her Lightspawn Monstrosity over Gilnean, and signaling her troops to pull the most Crowley worthy move. Setting off explosives and cannons throughout the city of Gilneas, she should have yelled: "IF I CAN'T HAVE THIS CITY, THEN THE SCARLET CRUSADE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU IN ASHES! BURN, HERETICS, BURN!!" Genn, his family, and Crowley would be shocked and disgusted, and prompted to put out the fires while you, the player, mount up on our drakes and chase after the madwoman and stop her before the time limit is up. After putting the fires out, and shooting down Fairbell, she makes the final stand and called for backupto try guerilla tactics on us. Eventually, Genn and company join in to fight off Fairbell. She would continuously mock and scold the Worgen race, the royal Greymane family, the Nightelves, and Crowley for their hubris and stupidity while bearing immense light powers. Finally, we felled Fairbell and her Light monstrosity, but without bearing witness her final act of defiance. Fairbell hid a killswitch on her person, and as soon as she makes one last scathing line (to add salt to the wound): "The Scarlet Crusade...will prevail". The city is suddenly engulfed in explosions which lead in a line towards the the Greymane manor and it is destroyed completely. Leaving nothing in it's place except a gaping, smoking crater and a city that is almost salavgable. After the heartbreaking events, Gilneas was finally reclaimed albeit in pieces. Genn relinquished his role as king to his daughter, Tess, but remains in Gilneas to help with the relief effort of aiding displaced Worgen and Gilnean citizens, while aiding with the repairs to the city including the plans of building a new manor much closer to the city. An act of change that leads to solidify a closer relationship to the people of Gilneas and Worgen and Nightelvez alike. Spitball idea. What do you think Sir Nobbel? 😊

Man i just wanted to see Crowley cleave with his arms during the battle again

I recently just fell in love with classic all over again (I’m late to the party I know) but I couldn’t help thinking if the community got together and demanded the improvement in writing quality, quest types, real story driven class quests, fixed the economy, made the game harder and more rewarding… then greedy blizzard would surely have to take note and stop churning out shit after shit?

By the way, the moment where Tess says for you. The subtitles should have an exclamation point, not a period. I do not know how captions on KZfaq work or if you can create your own captions as the uploader. But I just wanted to let you know now.

What is Liam doing in the Shadowlands? Or is he reincarnated?

this did not do justice to Gilneas. disappointing storyline. STILL... I am happy that we got something at least, and that there's a chance we will get even more stuff there.

I hope to see Celestine of the Harvest and more of the Harvest witches. I hope to see the Blackwald being used so my worgen Druid feels like he belongs somewhere

Didn’t you play antechamber a long time ago? Where’s that playlist!

Anybody knows the music at 14:40 or 17:20?

I am pretty inclined to go with old wolf Greymane on this view of the forsaken. I still hate the heck out of the wretched banshee queen with a dedication. Oh I hate Sylvanas wind runner so much that I even developed a very scary SV hunter combo I usually use on a floating priest or a levitating demon hunter or raid boss. The first use of that happened in the reckoning raid and it was Sylvanas screaming mid air when I first harpooned into har face, shredded her with butchery and shoved a grenade down her throat. I even have a bloody barbed meat hook dedicated to Sylvanas as the banshee carver 😂 well that and a nasty meat cleaver look. I only put them on when I'm pissed off. You see a white wolf toting a big bloody cleaver ie scyth looking pretty pissed off in the arena... Run like hell.🤣🤣🤣

Fun fact Nobbel : Light is not HOLY Light. Light is a source of power yes and yes it does base on conviction. Rember the pillars of what means to be a paladin? The 3rd is COMPASSION. The Scarlets have literally zero. Meaning, either we piss on the lore once again and retcon ourselves itno oblivion, or, the scarlets do NOT harness the power of Holy, just Light Are we seriously going to ignore Alleria harnessing Void and still able to love, be a mother, not being a villain? Similar to Alleria harnessing Void for good the Scarlets harness Light for bad, but its not HOLY. They are NOT paladins. Illidan is using the power of Fel as well.

The quest was a dud. Does Blizz know their playerbase at all? Why am I even asking..

if guilneass becomes a new main capital i might try retail

Apparently the Scarlet Crusade have aquired a couple of the Allinace cloning machines. Makes lore sence.

the scarlet crusade, get eradicated 3 times and yet still are able to get another strong enough army to claim a country. Where do they get these guys from?

But still no plans for Gnomeregon huh?

They should make the Liam death sacrifice scene into a cinematic him walking casualy up to her's kinda lame

Pallid not Pale.