How they found the Island (LOST Journeys)

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Choekaas

Choekaas

Күн бұрын

#LOST Season 5, episode 6 - "316" NB: SPOILERS
How did The DHARMA Initiative find the Island? Let's dive into the story behind Alvar Hanso, the Hanso Foundation, the DeGroots and The Lamp Post station.
00:00 Intro
00:18 Alvar Hanso
04:17 Gerald and Karen start The DHARMA Initiative
05:22 Funding begins from The Hanso Foundation
07:31 Who built the Lamp Post station?
10:09 DHARMA travels to the Island
13:39 The first wave of recruits
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There's no island like the Island from the hit TV show "Lost" (2004-2010), with its bizarre occurences, multiple treks and exciting locations. In this series I analyze every journey taken by the characters on the show. Episode by episode. Trying to connect the dots between all those impossible maps, confusing treks and mysterious locations.
Screenshots: lostscreencaps.weebly.com/
Island map (updated 4x11): imgur.com/gm1oc9j
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@DingaLingu
@DingaLingu Ай бұрын
This channel is awesome, ive watched lost start to finish 5 or 6 times, its a work of art.
@userNULL
@userNULL 3 ай бұрын
If the water filtration system was built in the early 70s, it was most likely using a chlorination process, which means the DHARMA initiative would need chlorine gas. Chlorine gas is also an incredibly dangerous and toxic gas. Its very possible that the Tempest was originally built to produce this gas by performing electrolysis on brinewater from the ocean, but later when the DHARMA initiative ran into trouble with the hostiles, the chlorine gas production was also used as an emergency backup station for producing chemical weapons.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant reasoning! Fully support this
@CaptPanOfSteel
@CaptPanOfSteel 3 ай бұрын
Just made that post on the lost subreddit about how I wish we knew more about the DeGroots and the founding of the Dharma Initiative, and then you drop this bad boy. Excellent.
@Narte
@Narte 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love how you use younger photos of actors to represent the characters in times before we’ve seen them on the show! Another fantastic detail about this channel, keep up the great work
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! And happy to see some people notice that. Makes it worthwhile! :)
@storiembijetendheislamin
@storiembijetendheislamin 3 ай бұрын
It all makes sense amazing explanation
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ultra_paradise8436
@ultra_paradise8436 3 ай бұрын
The most intriguing thing to me about the dharma initiative is how the hell they figured out that building a sonic fence was essentially the only way to stop the monster. Also how did Charlotte know the well was there? I’m assuming it was supposed to be part of her backstory that they cut but still interesting
@ultra_paradise8436
@ultra_paradise8436 3 ай бұрын
Also, Ellie says they built their village on top of most of the tunnels where the bomb(and summoning chamber!) was. Seems like a horrible logistical move on the others’ part to let them have access to the monster.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
I now regret for a little bit that I didn't fully explore the building process for the barracks. That's actually something that would fit right into this video. I agree that it seems like a horrible logistics move to build it over the Jughead chamber. I've argued that the original intended spot for the barracks was down south and agreed on by them and the hostiles, but they moved further north. It could be that Jacob talked to Richard and allowed it to happen. This was before they signed a truce. For the hostiles, it would let them access to the barracks since they had all these tunnels underneath it. As Richard said. The sonic fence protects other things and not them. So that was one advantage they had. Maybe having the barracks near the summoning chamber would be an advantage for the hostiles, since it would lead the Monster to them and potentially make them stop drilling any further/kill them/scare them away? Great question about the sonic fence. I think I might deal more with that in season 6 when Widmore brings his own sonic fence. As for Charlotte. I wonder if that was one of the many trunctuated bits from season 5 that went away. (They were gonna do a bit with Pierre Chang and Faraday that didn't happen). I assume that since Charlotte was on the Island, maybe overheard her father David at home talking to Horace about digging near the well and constructing the Orchid. And this was one of the memories that kept coming back to Charlotte when her mind was flashing through time.
@dboff
@dboff 3 ай бұрын
@@Choekaasare you a show writer per chance? If not… please become one! Your attention to detail is astounding.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
@@dboff Thanks for the compliment! I'm not a screenwriter though
@TheLostMap
@TheLostMap 3 ай бұрын
Hello Choekaas. How are you doing. Sorry I haven't responded earlier. I'm still working on my map ( I kept finding errors or inconsistencies until I think I finally figured it out). Believe it or not, but the maps shown on the show are extremely accurate. The only one I can't figure out completely is the Radio Tower map. My goal is to update my site with a new island map with updated locations and a map for every day the Losties are on the island (over 100 maps!) I purposely avoided watching any of your videos to ensure that I'm not influenced by your findings. By chance I happened to see this video. I was intrigued by your assertion that the Dharma Initiative started in 1970. I seem to remember that it began in the early 70's , don't remember anyone being able to figure out the actual year it began. I haven't watched the show in years, so maybe I'm missing something obvious. I wanted to congratulate you on your work on these videos. It's obvious you put a lot of energy and time into creating them and it shows.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
Well, howdy! So good to hear from you again. I'm doing very well, thanks, you? The radio tower map was probably the hardest one to solve, and I don't think it's completely solved anyway haha. It involved some theory-making. That this was an older map and the marking of "barracks" in that map, I theorized was the proposed site of the barracks, and instead they built it further up north. I also did some obscure flip-floping with it, not too different from your solution back in the day. If you want to hear how I solved it, then you can check out the video on Through the Looking Glass, but I completely understand if you don't want to be influenced by my findings. The year 1970 comes from Marvin Candle in the very first orientation film. "The DHARMA Initiative was created in 1970, and is the brainchild of Gerald and Karen DeGroot", although as I expressed in this video, some work was done before through the Hanso Foundation.
@TheLostMap
@TheLostMap 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, I misspoke. I guess my question isn't the creation date of the Dharma Initiative, but the year they arrived at the island. Your video implies that they arrived the same year that they were created. (10:16) and that Radzinsky stated that he had started working on the Swan as early as 1971. That would make sense. My problem with that is that in Season Five, episode eight - Lafluer the year is 1977. Jin enters the Flame and checks the radar logs to see if a plane landed on the island and Radzinsky is building a model of the Swan inside the Flame. If he's buiding a model of the Swan in 1977, how could he started working on it in 1971? Thanks @@Choekaas
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLostMap Ah, yeah, gotcha. I don't think it's a problem that he is making a model in 1977 and in a few episodes later he says he's been working on the Swan since 1971. It's a complicated station, with it being so close to that pocket of electromagnetic energy, that might've seen numerous designs. Back home we have a building that has been in talks since the 1960s and gone through numerous designs, various boards and members, budgetary reasons and even various architectural designs - this building is now almost done and opens this year. Sometimes it takes a long time to finalize a project.
@TheLostMap
@TheLostMap 3 ай бұрын
That make's sense. My only problem is that I can't find a reference of Radzinsky saying he started working on the Swan in '71. I re-watched the Incident (Episode 5-16) and reviewed my notes. Do you happen to know when he says this? I did see on LOSTpedia's The Swan mention that Radzinsky did start working on the Swan in 1971, but didn't see any reference. I would love to find where he says this, but I just can't find it. Thanks
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLostMap Here it is! Radzinsky says it in the season 5 finale "I've been working on this project for six years. Designing a station that'll be able to manipulate electromagnetism in ways we only dreamed of." 1977 - 6 = 1971 :)
@ShadowDogProduction
@ShadowDogProduction 3 ай бұрын
I was an avid listener of the Lost podcast and devoured any news during the week between episodes so i experienced the Charlotte age snafu in real time as it happened. My theory on what transpired is based on 15 years experience dealing with actors on film sets during production. Let me put it this way, its very common for actors to approach a Director right before a scene when they're most distracted and say "The script says I was born in 1971 but nobody will believe that because I'm 6 years younger than that. Can we change that line to 1979?" The Director, thinking about a million other things, would grunt and wave their hand "Whatever." Its nobody's fault because the actor asked for permission and the Director was focused on 5 million things. I've had this happen on my sets. Actors care a LOT about what age their characters are. A LOT.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 3 ай бұрын
Oh, yeah, the Charlotte's age drama was very embarassing to witness, and all the directions it took.
@Lucas43434
@Lucas43434 3 ай бұрын
This is NOT what happened. Rebecca Mader had to defend herself after Damon an Carlton shamelessly accused her of changing the script. Later they admitted that she was 100% not to blame, the script said 1979. You can check Rebecca Mader's Lospedia article and the EW article source for the full story. Rebecca Mader is completely innocent. In Darlton's own words: “Rebecca is absolutely right and we apologize to both her and the entire fan community for screwing up the story,”
@ShadowDogProduction
@ShadowDogProduction 3 ай бұрын
@@Lucas43434 yes I know what the official story is. Like I said, I followed it as it happened day to day.
@Lucas43434
@Lucas43434 3 ай бұрын
@@ShadowDogProductionThe show is riddled with continuity errors. The timeline on the show is a mess. It's a million times more believable that the writers or script coordinator screwed up, which is very clearly and firmly stated by the writers in this case. Why in the world would you believe that Rebecca Mader is lying when the writers themselves admitted fault and apologized to her?
@buzzwithdrip6347
@buzzwithdrip6347 3 ай бұрын
im waiting for episode 9
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