Correction. My sensitivity is .27 in game with 800dpi.

Thanks for actually going in depth with your explanations, others usually just say "use your entire arm" and be done there. The grip you showed has been very helpful

Loving the new style of this video! Also, my key takeaway to is try and consciously focus on how I'm holding my mouse to find what grip/arm position really benefits me to win more gunfights

Loving this type of content bro and in detail too. Been messing around with my arm aiming too to get it more consistent so this came clutch. Keep it up!

Honestly you made me realize I've probably been arm aiming wrong the whole time.

When it comes to aiming as a whole, there should be no difference between "Arm aiming" and "Wrist aiming". When aiming you should be using your whole arm; forearm and shoulder for big movements, wrist and fingers for precision adjustments. i.e. Use your arm to flick to someone, then use your wrist and fingers to adjust to their head. Gripping your mouse in a way that makes it impossible to use your fingers, or using a sens so high that you never need to use your arm, puts you at a needless disadvantage.

Omg I'm so glad you made this video. I was starting to give up in this grip in the last few days, but this definitely gives me hope in it. Thanks for the tips!

Nice vid Bt! Whether it’s tech review or not everything you make is so helpful.

Been throwing my mouse across the largest mousepad I could find like a lunatic for 15 years (was an MX518 back then, now a X-Lite wireless). Glad the arm aiming is working for you!

Been arm aiming lately and because I lowered my sensitivity a lot (28 cm/360 to 42) using a small light mouse (the Hati S) made me recover the reactivity I felt I lost after switching to a lower sens

Great stuff! When I switched I had the same kind of dramatic moment, like oh, I can fully aim now!!

Hey!! I'm Brazilian and I was very happy to have found your video, because I couldn't be very consistent in the game (valorant) and really, I had a lot of difficulty in making some kills due to the pressure that was on my wrist and arm and also for giving a few we spasm. Now your tip was surgical to improve my Gameplays! I'm using your settings and I've already noticed improvements. Thank you so.

I actually did the same thing to help my aiming yesterday and it helped a lot in sniping and felt a lot more consistent.

Really big that you included all the different variations of this style. Everyone has differently sized arm muscles/desk elevations/mice/etc, and in order for someone to fairly try out this style, they need to first go through the variations you listed and find their best fit.

This is the first video that made me try out claw grip. Thank you. I was using the palm grip making me get finger fatigue quickly.

That part about waking up playing different every day really resonates with me. Even as an arm Aimer with a 29 inch 360, I still suffer from this.

Thank you my aim is significantly better. Like you I’ve been trying to get better at arm aiming across multiple games. Was hard for me to understand how anyone does it because I would try to do what you did either put my whole arm down or float my whole arm but I was super inconsistent with only the hand on the mouse. This is way better for accuracy.

This video helped my aim out already. Kovaaks scores goin up by arm aiming. Great video

Awesome video explaining arm aiming shared this with my friend group trying to convince them

I appreciate u making this video bro, thank you so much

Hey man, Thanks for the tip, I'll be practicing more with that !

ngl, you are a big brainer my dude. thins will definitely help me so much i can already see it. All the explanation are perfect. Kudos

If you are having trouble with your arm sticking to the table or mousepad, I highly suggest getting a sport sleeve/gaming sleeve. Helps a ton with consistency!

love this, arm aiming is great but u should always try to involve ur wrist into ur aiming style, as n0thing (csgo pro) has said being able to use both is great, since ur arm is used as a pivot for big swings and wrist for small adjustments also the idea of not having ur wrist planted is also an idea well known in the aiming community, but i love that u figured it out urself, having ur wrist in an elevated position allows for a more range of movement love the vids man, keep it up!!

Thank you this helped alot

thanks so much, this is really helpful!

It did help me, thanks!

Made this change last night and already feeling like this could be the play, claw grip feeling kinda nice

THANKYOU did this mid game and instantly improved. you earned a subscriber

Great video Brandon, probably one of the best arm aiming videos out there

bro just earned a sub thanks man

The thing that helped me is that I bought a Carpio 2.0 from DELTAHUB, its a wrist rest for your hand behind your mouse, your wrist doesn't touch the mouse pad anymore, and the carpio glides beautifully next to the mouse, took some getting used to, but it helped me with the aim and even ergonomics, my wrist doesn't hurt anymore. I suggest anyone with pain in their wrist to check it out. I'm not one sweaty gamer but the wrist rest helped me a ton.

I did similar testing last year for 15 days. Not only trying out different mouse grips, but also sensitivities. Documented all the testing along the way for headshot accuracy, autorifle/SMG tracking, flick, etc. Was quite interesting to see the results and how much better I was at another sens and mouse grip than my usual (+20% better)

this video actually changed my life thank u so much

THANK YOU for making this video! I've been struggling with pain in my mouse arm over the past 6 months and with your suggested adjustments and using my arm more, I can finally play PC shooters again without any pain. Just tested your techniques for an hour or two and not only was I more accurate on TF2, but I walked away with ZERO mouse arm pain for the first time in months. THANKS!

Also, just wanted to add that, after watching this, I tried some of the stuff and its really good, can vouch. However, fingertip on low sens (weird combo I know) is also not bad since it does require you to use your arm and have that free pivot. (0.246 @ 800 dpi, if you were wondering what I mean by 'low' sens)

thanks for the tip man, i was really struggling to aim with arm. Great content

lol this is so crazy, I have been doing the same for the past couple weeks and own both the sl and the gpu, when I first started arm aiming I was running a corder pad but with a sleeve as minimize friction as much as possible with keeping wrist on the pad to remain comfortable but in the last week or so have switched to the gpx(larger so I feel more comfortable since its longer with more of a rear bump) on the artisan zero(sleeve doesn't seem to reduce friction on this pad) for more control and have been messing with my grip to avoid my wrist friction. glad I found this video I was thinking about going back my starlight with the sleeve but now I think im gonna continue with getting comfortable with the new grip

I really like this video, thank you for making it and giving us your insight. I personally used to arm aim but I switched to wrist aiming because after playing for a few hours my elbow would hurt because of all of the moving my arm was doing.

IDK how to thank you bro. out of all 'aim improvement guide out there this one definitely helped me the most. After changing my grip to this I literally top fragged games at Plat elo something that was very rare to me hehe thaanks

Wow, this was extremely beneficial.

OMG, i used to play with my wrist but now i tried the full arm and is a huge diff, thanks dudeeee.

I've switched to using more arm and lowering my sens and its much more natural/consistent, the real thing to get used to is your movement, it will suffer initially from a lower sens. I've found using RawAccell to increase my y-axis sens by 1.2-1.3x makes going low sens much more comfortable, as vertical movements are much more manageable.

Sounds like a good tip ,gonna give it a go!

You legend, thanks a lot!!

This is why so many CS players (used to) play palm; It makes it much easier to get your wrist go off the pad.

I have no idea what you said, I was distracted by the marvellous contraption in the background. Great video😂

BT with another goated video

This method tripled my kills in all my shooters, tha k you

Same case here, always been a high sens user. When I started CSGO I had no knowldge of mice and what not, I rocked 3.04 sens on a default 1200dpi mouse, then shifted to a 800 dpi mouse and then it was finally time to buy my first cheap gaming mouse, with which I shifted to 400DPI because by then I saw most pros use that. Sens stayed the same 3.04. I had a relaxed fingertip/palm kinda grip with all mice, similar to s1mple's grip. I have big hands. I was always a wrist aimer, with shaky aim but the sens allowed me to be a AWP god. Then I bought the g304 which was smaller and narrower than my previous mouse ( it had the deathadder shape ) I was forced to change my grip because my hand used to cramp cause of the smaller mouse. I change to a palm grip and shifted my sens to 2.0 Ever since then I have been so much more consistent and on par with anyone on the server. Averaging 20 frags is so easy now. Requires minimum warmup.

Def a good piece.

I have been arm aiming like that for a long time now with a hybrid/relaxed claw grip. I never got why so many people are chasing smaller mice and use fingertip. It's a very inconsistent combo because it lacks control and stability. Glad you see you realized this and made a video about it, because people are not talking about it much. I think the propaganda started because of RJN, however he mainly played Quake games back then. There are a wide variety of different shooters that people play nowadays, and I think relaxed claw like that would work for everything you need.

thank you bro this help me a lot

Fire video🔥

I use fingertip grip and a combination of fingertip and wrist aiming for micro adjustments and my arm for bigger initial turns

I arm aim myself on .35 1600dpi in valorant as low sense kills me. I hit more shots on a higher sens somehow. Video was very insightful especially the elevated wrist part. I never thought about that.

Thank you very much for the advice. Do you have another video for keyboard placement?

I don't think it's just about arm aiming alone, it's more a combination of arm and wrist depending on the distance of the target. I also use my fingers for micromovements.

for those who want to do this but don't know where to start, I'd just look at prosettings and see what the median and mean edpi is, though I'm generally biased towards the median, since it's more outlier resistant. the mean edpi for val is 282 (.352 @800) which equates to about 46 cm 360. looking at the spreadsheet, the median edpi is right about 248-251 (.31-.314 @800 dpi)], or about a 52 cm 360. If you want to get in the ballpark for a median that's not published on prosettings, just take the spreadsheet, display 25 by page, and go to whatever the halfway point is in terms of number of pages (ie for Val, there are 13 pages, I'd go to page 6 and look at the bottom half) and if you play a lot of different games and can't arm aim in some of them, that's okay!

I switched from palm grip at 600 eDPI (69.27cm / 360) to fingertip claw hybrid at 800 eDPI (51.95cm / 360). I agree that it's definetly inconsistent, but man when it works I go and smack my Kovaaks scores by like 25% on a good day lmao

Yea I unconsciously did this a few years ago and when I got into trying new mice it made finding the right mouse more annoying since the forward grip makes it harder to comfortably hit the side buttons, something I use a lot for mic mute/pinging in val and ow.

i did use wrist aiming cuz i had small mousepad but i switch to a bigger mouse pad and stadt using my whole arm and wrist it did improve my aim,at the begining ofc i had to train my arm and then after like 2 month i improve my aim

im the exact opposite i used to be an arm aimer but felt super in consistent and slow. Going to a high sens, mastering it and switching to wrist aiming really made me level up alot. I know have a 38.8% headshot rate on valo tracker with 52$ headshot rate on the vandal respectively.

I like to rest my elbow on the armrest of my chair and also have my forearm partially touching the table as well (I really hope this doesn't become a problem when I get a new chair, I'll have to really make sure the armrests are adjustable)

I've been using arm aiming with my wrist planted my whole gaming life and this video was eye opening to me. I saw Stewie, zywoo, and Twistzz all use these floating wrist grips and the only one I tried out was twistzz and it was very exaggerated and uncomfortable so I never tried it again until now with a more comfortable grip and it is so much better than planted wrist

What makes the wrist be the pivot point is the little pressure we add to it so we can "plant" the wrist on the mousepad, you don't need to hover your wrist, just try practicing to your mouse without any pressure on the wrist, guys

for those sweaty arms in summer : try an arm sleeve or use an old sock with the end cut open (cheap but effective)

6:37 cm/360 Mine has been around 45cm/360 for a while now. Take into account that he's playing valorant, a game where you don't have to do huge mouse movements. I play apex, and sometimes you need to, so 50cm+/360 might be a little too slow.

ngl this is literally my problem lol. I think, likewise all the people with very low senses have this problem. Thank you for sharing this with us dude! this really helps more than any video on youtube and this arm aiming is the only one true solution for low sens users. (my dpi: 800, sens: 0.254)

I instantly improved with this lol, tsm

How long does it take for this new grip to start feeling natural? My wrist hurts a little bit too aftewards a very small amount, did you experience the same?

What’s weird is I had the opposite experience. I played at 0.28/800dpi for a few months and was doing alright, but not great. But as soon as I cranked it up to 0.5 my aim got really crispy and I feel more confident taking fights. Good video tho! It’s good to try various sensitivities and styles! It won’t harm your muscle memory, at least not permanently.

I really appreciate the information! As someone who came from PS4, (primarily Playing Overwatch) I am switching between PS4 and PC, I felt so lost on how to properly control a mouse, even though I use one daily (just not for gaming). The console version of Overwatch has Aim assist, which is nice, but I knew years ago that If i developed a dependency on it, It would be very hard to change later on. Thats why I wanted to set the aim assist lower and lower until I eventually Weaned off of it. Im just gonna throw this out here. If anyone would like to play Overwatch sometime, let me know. Im a diamond Support, and palt tank + Open Queue on console. but unfortunately I am maybe a silver at best on PC (havent ranked yet) once again thank you for the video you have helped me get on the right path

Yo can you tell us what you did to train your new aim stye? did you just play the game or aimlabs/range/dm?

Tnx you help mi alot

I prefer using mid sens like 32cm/360 for Arm Aiming because you can do a full 360 on a 45cm mousepad which is insanely useful in games with alot of angle switching while still being able to use my wrist and fingers when aiming, so I use the arm to flick close to the target and use wrist and fingers to adjust to head instead of aiming using the arm only.

Side questiom, the mousepad you demonstrating the technique, and the one you using playing deathmatch, are those the same size?

As another fellow arm aimer, sit up and close enough to the desk so that there is a 90 degree right angle from your wrist to your elbow up to the biceps. Hopefully this helps somebody out.

I've battled arm aiming for so long myself! I felt kinda good after this vid, except I have trouble hitting long range shots/micro adjustments. Do you plant your wrist just for those, or more slight contact?

the video i was looking for , nice job :) u also got some tips on the rotation of the forearm? should ur wrist be completly horizontal or can it be slightly rotated ?

with this aim style i guess the slowest pad with most friction is the best. any recommendations for the mouse and pad combo? 19x 10.5 hands. There is also one thing no one is speaking about. Twistzz presses the thumb down on the mouse to create downforce - he is unique in this - because I think Zywoo doesnt do that and has a more relaxed grip - not so much downforce - but Twistzz plants his whole arm on the mouse. For control maybe twistzz style is better (exagerated claw-grip with an option to use downforce to create more control). All these players are top tier and the most relaxed seems to be Zywoo with his effortles grip. I dont think he uses much downforce on the mouse like Twistzzz. Worth a study.

I used to arm aim now mostly just wrist went from 0.243 1600 or like 0.485 800 dpi to exactly double so 0.485 1600 dpi or 0.97 800 dpi. Use the superlight love flicks still like arm aim for massive movements or just wutever feels comfortable at the moment just autopilot for aim yk it just works

Hi bro!! Really nice tips on arm aiming... Can u help me understand the swipes for left and right 90 degrees.. 0.25*800 dpi!! And how to check multiple angles while arm aiming

switched from forward palm grip to finger tip grip and not gonna finger tip has sooo much more room for micro corrections compared to palm or claw grip. depending on the games we play our preference will change to wether which grip is better or worse. for me if were to play fortnite i have to go with palm or claw cuz there is soo much fast paced movement finger tip wont make it. for valorant finger tip can be good but since there is not much verticle movement u can make claw/palm grip work but in apex i feel like finger tip is the best imo cuz of the verticle and horizontal movement in that game.

banger man

So do you still stick with this kind of aiming or do you plant your wrist nowadays?

I’ve had some success with my wrist floating off the mousepad, only thing is I have my shoulder soreness.

I play with a mix of arm and wrist movement. More arm than wrist. I use a palm/fingertip grip hybrid. I use 800DPI 0.39 In game. I can aim really good sometimes, but then other times i cant hit anything. Im terrible. I have crosshair placement down, i know the angles, maps, agents, abilities. I just cant consistently aim. When it LOOKS like i hit the head (because my crosshair is on their head) i hit the body. People tell me aim higher but if i aim any higher i shoot above them. This is my 1 area of flaw in the game at the moment. Im a plat 3 player, and understand the game. My aim doesnt match my skill level and i want to be able to hit my shots. It will go a long way in helping me improve.

I love your content! Truly a helpful video, please make more like this. I beg

Should I plant my arm or should I just let it rest there?

it's not necessary to have that gap underneath, it's just the way they hold the mouse or aim. use arm when swiping from front to back. use wrist for micro adjustment (close enemy). Also, crosshair placement.

Good video. It's worth saying that is won't work for everyone though. And I think you misspoke your Valorant sens because 2.7 on 800 dpi is REALLLLLLY fast. Either way I think this is a style that's definitely worth trying at least once.

ive tried this before and for my preference i feel inconsistent with it. it might be a good tip for some but not for all. just sharing my thoughts

what if you use finger tip grip but use a gaming sleeve with it? would that work

ur so underrated bro

is it common after playing for 10minutes trying to arm aim my arm gets really tired holding my arm off my pad after years of resting my arm from wrist aiming or do i just need to work out more lol

I have a similar grip with my wrist lifted, but I use high dpi, 0.04685 on cs go with 25600 dpi (like 3 400 or 1.5 800)

This video was probably the most helpful arm aim guide I've ever seen next to Coach Rambos guides and also I have a question when u play arm do u lift ur arm to avoid it from getting stuck on the table? Or u just rest it on the table and it is what it is😁

been on .275 for the longest i love low sens 🔥

2:00 , if you have a problem with thag i usually use a basketball arm sleeve your arm will just glide on the mouse pad