Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZfaq by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 What Robert Wished People Knew About Stress 06:00 Where is the Threshold of Short-Term Stress Becoming Long-Term? 12:29 How Brain Development is Influenced by Mother’s Socioeconomic Status 25:50 Does Your Stress Impact Your Descendants? 29:00 Finding Solutions to Manage Stress 35:52 How to Better Enjoy the Good Things in Life 42:50 Can You Actually Detox from Dopamine? 53:18 Why Robert Wanted to Study Our Lack of Free Will 1:01:46 How Having No Conscious Agency Impacts Justice 1:11:10 The Myth of the Self-Made Man 1:32:43 How to Acknowledge Your Lack of Agency & Not Feel Depressed 1:40:22 Where to Find Robert
@martinbrousseau25609 ай бұрын
Is it crazy to suggest this might be wrong…
@theresapelham19189 ай бұрын
😮
@vacaloca55759 ай бұрын
Free will exists as long as we can individually want different things. We need a word for that, and that word is "free will", as you can see in any English dictionary. Beware, people who fight the dictionary may have antisocial tendencies.
@christinenickell41769 ай бұрын
Laura abouri
@AndreyBogoslowskyNewYorkCity5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😮😮😮😮
@steveb38816 ай бұрын
I could listen to Robert Sapolsky all day. “It’s not the pursuit of happiness, but it’s the happiness of the pursuit.” Love that.
@mcd54785 ай бұрын
Yes! I wrote that one down 🙂
@user-qz8pm3pj9b5 ай бұрын
I like your comment just discovered Sapolski recently 😂
@commissarkitty35534 ай бұрын
He's ideas about the lack of freedom of will are stupid. With his logic all prisoners should be freed because they had no choice in their criminality even the ones of higher socio economic status.
@uvenciomenendez19943 ай бұрын
This guy is gold🥇 so much awareness
@10jonchannel2 ай бұрын
@@commissarkitty3553Did you even watch the video?
@tahoforbreakfast10 ай бұрын
I love how Dr Sapolsky is recording this episode in his kitchen complete with family member and dog cameos. He seems to be such a grounded and wise human being. Thank you so much for the work that you both do!
@tahoforbreakfast10 ай бұрын
@@oil_of_lahollywood4894 The entire thing was just really unpretentious and relatable despite his prestige. I died when he showed his dog with a ball. It was absolutely adorable. :)
@RodKnockin10 ай бұрын
Yes
@lcotee10 ай бұрын
His Human Behavioral Psychology Course from Stanford can be found a lot of places including on KZfaq. It's fantastic.
@formxshape10 ай бұрын
Great to see Robert’s pantry, sad to see so many processed foods. Glad he got a fire extinguisher, that’ll avoid the stress of your house burning down when you burn the dinner. 😅
@yanapostolides60110 ай бұрын
He hasn't proven there is no such thing as "Free Will". The "nuanced" argument "Abolish the Criminal Justice System" and replace it with what? Crickets. If they have no control they should be in jail, that's why they are there.
@SuperArestus3 ай бұрын
Real gentlman and scientist.....15 years ago I have sent him some data on Croatian war veterans asking for his opinion...He replied immediately together with unpublished version of his new article...World needs more people like dr. Sapolsky❤
@tugevpuder9 ай бұрын
Finally a podcaster who respects the guest and lets him talk! I love it! Thank you!
@phoenix56946 ай бұрын
Cause its fake
@InfinityReptar5 ай бұрын
Alex O'Connor
@tugevpuder5 ай бұрын
@@InfinityReptar stumbled upon him a few months back! Epic guy, nice recommendation!
@InfinityReptar3 ай бұрын
@@tugevpuder no problem!
@jayrezvani382110 ай бұрын
I love how this podcast is slowly turning into a course on applied evolutionary psychology.
@CONEHEADDK10 ай бұрын
One of the first teachers on YT, that I couldn't get enough of. Human Behavior Stanton - learned from those 25 x ca 100 minutes than from 12 years of "real" school.
@jayrezvani382110 ай бұрын
@@CONEHEADDK are you referring to the Stanford lecture series? If so, then yes 💯. Between that, a TED talk by Carin Bondar and learning about the work of Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, that basically completely transformed my understanding of how everything in human society works. And I just now went back to that playlist and saw that lecture series was actually Sapolsky 😅. Crazy.
@michelle_cen10 ай бұрын
Yes!!!!! ❤
@CONEHEADDK10 ай бұрын
@@jayrezvani3821 No doubt (I keep on f*cking those two up :S - CPTSD, depression and stress brain doesn't help me much :D ) The other two you mention I don't know, but I will google them. I usually use Jordan Peterson's "Are you depressed? or low in the dominence hierarchy?" (3 min.) to explain to people, why I can't "just pull my self together, and get things done".
@albertlevins919110 ай бұрын
Applied evolutionary psychology == Living life.
@nunyabidness682010 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧠 Stress has detrimental effects on the brain, reducing empathy and tolerance, leading to a self-centered focus. 01:09 🧾 The anterior cingulate cortex, a brain region, is key to understanding and interpreting pain in oneself and others. 03:09 💔 Stress diminishes empathy, generosity, and moral compass, impacting how we relate to others and narrowing our concerns to a self-centric focus. 04:18 🎭 Stress challenges the notion of free will, emphasizing the role of environment and biology in shaping behavior and responses to stressors. 06:16 ⏳ Short-term stress is a biological response to immediate threats, while chronic stress leads to detrimental health effects, requiring attention to societal, cultural, and personal factors. 11:10 📺 Continuous exposure to global crises and catastrophes through media can significantly impact our stress responses and overall well-being. 15:57 🤰 A mother's socioeconomic status and stress during pregnancy can epigenetically influence a fetus, affecting brain development and long-term health outcomes. 20:08 🧬 Genetic predispositions interact with environmental factors, such as childhood stress, determining vulnerability to mental health conditions like depression. 22:09 🧪 Behavioral genetics emphasizes that genes interact with the environment, illustrating the complexity of how genes influence behavior and outcomes. 24:38 🔧 Epigenetics highlights the enduring impact of experiences on gene regulation, influencing health, behavior, and disease risks across the lifespan. 25:33 🧬 The regulation of genes and their interaction with the environment is more fascinating than the genes themselves. 25:49 🧠 Stress and bad experiences can leave lasting effects not only on individuals but potentially on future generations. 26:16 🧪 Environmental factors can influence gene regulation, impacting how individuals raise their children and pass on cultural values and neuroses. 27:12 💡 Stress during fetal life can cause epigenetic changes in the amygdala, affecting fear and anxiety responses in adulthood. 27:50 🔄 Epigenetic changes can be reversed through appropriate therapeutic interventions, modifying gene regulation and brain function. 28:17 👶 Multigenerational transmission of adverse regulatory consequences for genes can occur through parenting styles and environmental factors. 29:00 💡 Strategies to reduce stress should focus on control, predictability, outlets for frustration, and social support. 29:39 ⏸️ Stress management techniques should be personalized, enjoyable, and integrated into daily routines to be effective. 30:33 🔑 Cultivating a sense of control, predictability, and social support can mitigate the effects of stress on mental well-being. 31:30 🌟 Providing predictive information and a sense of control can buffer against stress, enhancing coping strategies in mild to moderate stressors. 33:19 🌿 Regularly engaging in stress-reducing activities and valuing one's well-being are essential for effective stress management. 34:25 🕰️ Setting aside dedicated time for stress management activities is crucial, prioritizing personal well-being in daily routines. 35:07 😄 Enjoying the chosen stress management technique is essential for its effectiveness, focusing on individual preferences and interests. 35:47 🚀 Avoiding stress management techniques that don't resonate with you is crucial, as forcing oneself into ineffective methods may exacerbate stress. 36:43 🎉 Creating positive experiences and savoring moments of joy can counteract habituation to pleasurable stimuli, extending their positive impact. 37:37 🤯 Dopamine is more about anticipation and striving than the actual reward, driving our motivation and excitement towards future possibilities. 39:26 ⚖️ Our constant pursuit of more and better is rooted in dopamine-driven anticipation, a fundamental aspect of human behavior and innovation. 45:11 🔀 Introducing uncertainty or the possibility of reward amplifies dopamine levels, emphasizing the role of uncertainty in driving motivation and anticipation. 49:34 💫 Humans have a unique ability to sustain anticipatory dopamine levels, envisioning future rewards and motivations beyond immediate gratification. 50:16 🔄 The pursuit and anticipation of future events or rewards drive much of human behavior, highlighting the value we place on anticipation and striving. 51:11 🧠 Stress & Dopamine Detraining: Detraining from dopamine can occur by reducing stimuli for about 30 days, potentially resetting the brain's response and impacting pleasure perception. 51:52 🧬 Individual Variation in Dopamine: Factors like early life stress, genetics, and neural makeup influence dopamine production and its impact on pleasure and anticipation. 53:15 💭 Understanding Individual Differences: Each person's dopamine system works differently due to a mix of genetics, life experiences, and environmental factors, affecting responses to stimuli. 54:00 🕊️ Discovering Lack of Free Will: A personal realization during adolescence led Dr. Sapolsky to the belief that there's no free will, which has influenced his work and writing. 56:27 🌍 Embracing Determinism: Dr. Sapolsky advocates that humans are a sum of biology and environmental interactions, lacking fundamental control, challenging conventional notions of free will. 57:20 ⚖️ Rethinking Criminal Justice: The current criminal justice system is flawed, punishing individuals for actions over which they had no control, needing a transformation to a more rational approach. 01:11:16 💼 Challenging Meritocracy: Meritocracy perpetuates entitlement by rewarding attributes individuals did not choose, necessitating a reevaluation of societal values and systems. 01:13:34 🌌 Grappling with Reality: Accepting the lack of control over one's efforts and desires can be disheartening, but it paves the way for a more nuanced understanding of human existence. 01:14:18 🧠 The importance of competent individuals, like neurosurgeons, necessitates appropriate incentives and training. 01:19:51 🌍 Realizing we are products of chance and circumstance can lead to a more humane understanding of individuals and their circumstances. 01:27:17 💡 Incremental actions challenging our sense of entitlement can promote a shift in how we perceive success and responsibility. 01:37:33 🧠 Mindfulness involves stringing together mindful moments, achievable through practice and repetition, leading to a more present and less judgmental mindset. 01:38:13 🤔 Applying the concept of incremental change to the understanding of free will, acknowledging the potential for reform and a shift in perspective towards others and circumstances. 01:39:07 ❤️ Striving to let go of hatred and resentment by recognizing the lack of free will and viewing individuals and their actions with understanding and empathy.
@djimiwreybigsby526310 ай бұрын
thank you for that 🙏
@jessdedication10 ай бұрын
❤
@szymonbaranowski81849 ай бұрын
Nature bless you with more children than others! thanks
@tzenophile9 ай бұрын
@@szymonbaranowski8184 Do you really want an AI to have children?
@durmango99 ай бұрын
❤
@ALForb10 ай бұрын
I haven't seen Sapolski smile so much in an interview. Great job, Chris.
@supremepancakes43889 ай бұрын
THIS
@TheHappinessOfThePursuit4 ай бұрын
😊
@Chickencluts12343 ай бұрын
I love how we are a community of 100 people plus who care about sapolsky's happiness, ty for commenting this 😊❤
@SkinnyMinnie37710 ай бұрын
Sapolsky is a legend and neurobiology rockstar. Just an amazing researcher and science communicator. Always a joy to see him on a podcast.
@tyronefrielinghaus34679 ай бұрын
great voice too....
@pvilla249 ай бұрын
yeah. he da man!
@manoftheworld10009 ай бұрын
Robert rocks, no doubt! He's definitively my favourite neurobiologist🙂!
@coreycox23454 ай бұрын
@@pvilla24 Agreed. He has blown my mind many times in his lecture series.
@check4v4 ай бұрын
Whenever I hear this man talk, I feel like I'm being spoken to and understood by someone who really cares about my wellbeing.
@afrosamurai69694 ай бұрын
He doesn‘t judge
@billjones6424 ай бұрын
try to be that voice for someone
@check4v4 ай бұрын
@@billjones642 I'll try. Thank you for replying, I hope I can be helpful to someone else like him.
@Bronco54124 күн бұрын
Positive vibes! As i get older im beginning to realize this is an aquired skill (to both have and learn to see it in others). Im trying to surrouns myself and listen to those with such a voice, and avoid the opposite.
@ginolatino9115 күн бұрын
true.
@DanteCantini10 ай бұрын
I am currently a graduate student doing neuroendocrinology research and it is largely due to the influence that Robert Sapolsky's work has had on my thinking and interests. Great interview with one of the best science communicators there is.
@paulheydarian12816 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever used you as a lab-rat?
@coreycox23454 ай бұрын
@@paulheydarian1281 Maybe.
@Johnny.B99510 ай бұрын
That explains a lot. My grandma punched my mom in the stomach while pregnant with me. I witnessed my parents fight just around the time I started to walk. Parents divorced at 5 years old. Narcissistic abusive stepdad comes in the picture around 6 years old. More domestic violence and abuse continued all the way til I was 17 years old. I’m 28 now and still try not to let my past overcome my present moment. I’m sure there are many people with similar stories. I truly sympathize with people that have come from broken homes when all you know is chaos and stress. What’s done is done, all we can do is learn and practice ways to become stronger. Accepting God in my life has been a life changer for me. We all need to have some faith to follow.
@fabian500210 ай бұрын
I send you a hug!
@davidjooste578810 ай бұрын
You made a better choice. All strength to you.
@julie-annjameson72110 ай бұрын
❤
@michaelross49596 ай бұрын
Yeah but how can you do any of that if you have no free will!?
@CJ-ft9yo4 ай бұрын
@@michaelross4959exactly
@mpelgudmir10 ай бұрын
I love Dr. Sapolsky. So much passion for his work and so much heart and empathy... There's something incredibly endearing to me about an expert in his field who readily admits that his work has raised more questions than it has provided answers... The fact that he doesn't insert himself as some sort of guru is so refreshing. If you haven't read his book, 'A Primate's Memoir', you're missing out.
@robinantonio88706 ай бұрын
Fabulous book. Scientific educational and entertaining.
@SpocksBro10 ай бұрын
Among my favourite Professors. Love this man's recorded Stanford lectures on YT.
@e5jhl10 ай бұрын
yeah i remember him from back in the day on these, havent heard anything from him since then. might pick up his books if i feel like i wanna dive into those topics. really like the idea of my free will tho.
@yanapostolides60110 ай бұрын
"Abolish the Criminal Justice System" is not nuanced, it's extremist click bait, he has nothing to replace it with and it will never happen. He hasn't proven there is no such thing as "Free Will", he has proven to me he doesn't understand the concept. So polite and well mannered though.
@allynated9 ай бұрын
That's where I first saw him too. Such an amazing man.
@pwpsrspl10 ай бұрын
Dr. Sapolsky is a legend!! Thank you for interviewing him! ❤
@scottash35110 ай бұрын
If you're born to a poor and stressed mother you have a rough road ahead.
@Steve-xh3by10 ай бұрын
Thank you for having Dr. Sapolsky on! He is an important scholar. As someone who spent a lifetime thinking and reading about subjects like "free will," I came to the same conclusion as Dr. Sapolsky, and for the same reasons. All of his examples boil down to the reality of the physical world - there are only two types of actions - indeterministic and deterministic. Indeterministic (random) are outside of our control by definition in that if they were controllable, they'd be predictable, and, of course "random" requires unpredictability. Deterministic - those that evolve according to the laws of Physics. For these, if you don't control the initial state, you can't control any subsequent states. All subsequent states are determined by previous states. Brains are just physical matter and must evolve according to the laws of Physics, so any current brain states are just an evolution of previous brains states, all of which are outside of your control. No matter what combination of indeterminism and determinism are involved in any particular action, there is no room for this "magical" free will to shoe horn in and assert control. Once you really understand this is the way it MUST work, then it is liberating. I find myself incapable of getting angry at criminal behavior I read in the news, for example. I don't get angry at murderers. Of course, we still need to protect society from them, so they may need to be incarcerated. But, we shouldn't try to make their lives a living hell in prison. We should treat them like any other human being - with empathy. They didn't ask for their lives to turn them into that. I also find myself less likely to pat myself on the back for my accomplishments. I'm not responsible for my capabilities.
@itoibo42085 ай бұрын
Same. I feel lucky to have the gifts I have, but also unlucky for some of the hard things I had to deal with, and I am grateful that I am not a psycho killer or some other mess of a human being, and grateful that I do not have the desire to be a "bad" person.
@annmarieknapp9 ай бұрын
Dr. Sapolsky is brilliant and I often watch his lectures online for inspiration in my own lecturing. He's the college professor's professor. Mad respect for this man.
@willhartmann135610 ай бұрын
Dr. Sapolsky is so awesome. He gives off this wise older uncle vibe who's evolved beyond the mundane and trivial and become a beacon of wisdom and kindness. Could listen endlessly to him speaking. He's a seeker of knowledge for the joy of knowledge itself.
@go9ro36710 ай бұрын
Like an older uncle suffering delusion and dementia.
@polymathpark10 ай бұрын
@@go9ro367 wow what a kind and mature observation! Really appreciate your useful feedback and actual criticisms of his theories!
@polymathpark10 ай бұрын
Check out his stanford lecture series on Human Behavorial Biology, it restored my interest in science! a top notch teacher.
@nocturnaljoe954310 ай бұрын
@@go9ro367 Why, bro?
@jasonolinger758510 ай бұрын
If i was a lazy guy with no self esteem and entitlement i would love Robert Sapolsky.
@martyspandex10 ай бұрын
Great episode! I especially love the quote, "A relationship is the price you pay for the anticipation of it." In some way, I think this is part of the uphill battle with internet dating: we see all the best photos and considered statements about someone's personality, message and talk on the phone with them - ramping up the anticipation to an unrealistic amount - to then find they are an average person. The date has already been oversold before you've even met. Whereas meeting someone at work or in IRL, for the most part, avoids this problem.
@WeaponryFitness229 ай бұрын
I chose truck driving, got rid of debt, increased exercise, and stopped eating so much processed food. Took a little time but eventually stress dropped significantly.
@TheFreedomGypsy9 ай бұрын
You didn't choose that. Remember, there's no such thing as free will. lol
@shadamyandsonamylover7 ай бұрын
@@TheFreedomGypsywell then he got lucky that his upbringing and surroundings allowed him to choose a path that was actually relieving
@sonicaftermath57766 ай бұрын
It’s a truly confusing paradox to consider we have no free will. Djxurbsksidbr. I randomly typed that set of letters. Why? What made me do that? What point am I trying to make here??? Robert makes a lot of sense and he’s been convinced since he was young that there’s no free will. A revelation he had. Maybe he’s correct. I’m still digesting the idea. Can’t there be a sliding scale here? Why must it be this or that? How about thinking that some things we have no control over and other things we do. I can live with that. Not sure if I can accept the concept of NO freewill whatsoever. Dbtjdhrhrndkidrbrkenebdi😢🎉🎉😊😂🎉🎉🎉 😅😅 Ughh You’re killin me smalls!!!!!😂
@WeaponryFitness226 ай бұрын
@@shadamyandsonamylover Facts. I would've seen jail time if it weren't for having my dad.
@SwagbobKushpants2 ай бұрын
@@sonicaftermath5776 I think it's more fair to say that we have very limited free will rather than no free will. If you think about it, none of us have chosen to be who we are whatsoever. It all just landed the way it did in how our lives played out and the circumstances we were born into. We enact our "free will" based on these conditions but our whole livelihood has not been something we chose out of free will. You could argue that because we didn't choose any of it, that we also don't really have a lot of choice for what we do going forward, because of the foundation everything is built on. It's hard to wrap my mind around it. We have the choice to act however we like, but if we didn't choose to be who we are, is it actually our choice, or is it the choice of our collective identity (experiences, childhood, environment, etc.)? I think this is what Robert means when he refers to having no free will. 45ngwq4o3qjtq
@juliawilson10689 ай бұрын
Thanks Dr. Sapolsky. Thanks to your wife too. I was challenged and I sat through many years and hours of your lectures and work. Yes. It was worth every moment.
@DawidEstishort10 ай бұрын
Regarding the free will discussion and problem with lack of feeling of accomplishment: the solution is to replace pride with gratitude.
@coltrxne21546 ай бұрын
Exactly the ego is such a big component of that debate
@getgot346111 күн бұрын
Gratitude in what sense?
@michelle_cen10 ай бұрын
Robert Sapolsky is a legend. Thank you for interviewing this fabulous teacher!!!
@Tony-cj6jy10 ай бұрын
A little bit of pushback would be useful although i understand Chris prefers to let him speak. Strong statements like 'there is no damn free will whatsoever' is silly.
@antonyshadowbanned10 ай бұрын
@@Tony-cj6jy It's only silly if we actually use it to kill our moral compass. It is scientifically accurate but humanly untrue : )
@CONEHEADDK10 ай бұрын
@@Tony-cj6jy Silly is throwing a claim like that into a thread like this.
@CONEHEADDK10 ай бұрын
@@antonyshadowbanned Humanly untrue how?
@spellandshield10 ай бұрын
@@CONEHEADDK It SEEMS like we do, that is what is meant by that.
@ClintBaxley10 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:28 🧠 Stress impacts empathy: Stress narrows your focus and reduces empathy, making you less tolerant and less willing to consider others' perspectives, primarily affecting the anterior cingulate cortex in the brain. 02:56 🤝 Stress reduces generosity: Stress makes people less generous, more likely to cheat, and less morally inclined, leading to a focus on self-interest and a diminished range of concern for others. 05:49 💭 The role of agency in stress: Stress is not just an external force; it depends on our perception of agency and control. Dr. Sapolsky suggests that free will is a myth, and our experiences are shaped by biology and environment. 08:48 ⏳ Short-term vs. long-term stress: The impact of stress depends on various factors, including individual differences, cultural context, and species. Short-term stress can be useful, but chronic stress can be detrimental to health. 15:57 🧬 Socioeconomic status and fetal brain development: A mother's socioeconomic status can impact a fetus's brain development through the transmission of stress hormones, potentially affecting cognitive and emotional functions in later life. 25:33 🧬 Genes are less interesting than their regulation and how the environment changes gene regulation. Stress and anxiety can lead to epigenetic changes in genes, affecting future generations. 26:16 🧠 Our experiences as adults can influence how we raise our children and pass on cultural values and behaviors. 28:31 ⚙️ Multigenerational epigenetic changes can occur due to stress during fetal development and continue to affect future generations, but interventions can mitigate these effects. 30:06 🤔 Psychological stress is not just about external circumstances but also about the perception of control, predictability, and social support. 42:39 💭 To extend the duration of pleasure from experiences, one can practice mindfulness, savor the moment, and focus on helping others experience similar joys. 51:11 🧠 Understanding the brain's response to dopamine and stimulus can help us manage stress and pleasure. 53:42 🤔 Dr. Sapolsky believes that there is no free will and discusses the impact of this belief on society. 57:20 🚀 The concept of free will is animated because it challenges our fundamental beliefs about responsibility and punishment. 01:02:10 🛡️ Dr. Sapolsky suggests that the criminal justice system needs to be reformed, moving away from punishment and towards containment and addressing root causes. 01:11:31 ⚖️ The idea of meritocracy is challenged, as Dr. Sapolsky argues that we often reward people for factors beyond their control, which can lead to entitlement and injustice. 01:14:18 🧠 Understanding free will and determinism: Dr. Robert Sapolsky discusses the concept of free will, emphasizing that our behavior is shaped by biological factors and environmental influences, challenging the traditional notion of personal responsibility. 01:25:51 🌍 The humane implications of recognizing lack of free will: Sapolsky highlights that acknowledging the lack of free will can lead to a more compassionate world, where people realize that many aspects of their lives are the result of chance. 01:30:58 🤔 Challenging the sense of entitlement: Sapolsky suggests that recognizing the role of chance in our lives can help reduce entitlement and encourage individuals to consider the needs of others equally. 01:33:54 🙌 Taking small steps towards rejecting free will: Sapolsky advises taking incremental actions like practicing random acts of kindness or reconsidering judgments to gradually shift one's perspective on free will. 01:37:06 ⏳ Continuously integrating insights: Similar to mindfulness, Sapolsky suggests that consistently revisiting and applying these insights into our daily lives can help create a more thoughtful and compassionate existence. 01:37:21 🧘 Mindfulness and stringing together moments: Similar to mindfulness, embracing the concept of lack of free will involves stringing together individual instances where we recognize the role of chance and practice non-judgment. 01:38:13 🚀 Incremental reform vs. revolution: While recognizing the absence of free will may seem revolutionary, Sapolsky suggests that implementing this perspective in small, reformist ways on a daily basis can help reduce hatred and judgment. 01:38:54 🌌 Exploring altered states of consciousness: Sapolsky humorously suggests that experimenting with heavy psychedelics might provide insights into the nature of free will. 01:39:36 💔 Letting go of hatred: Sapolsky advocates for finding ways to let go of hatred and resentment towards individuals like Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin, aligning with the idea that it makes as little sense to hate them as it does to hate a volcano. Made with HARPA AI
@optimismrules251210 ай бұрын
Odd that those are the individuals he would note regarding hatred. The people most advocating for anti anything are largely the most hateful and ignorant people I've met. Instead of worrying about hate of people we have no personal connection with let's reduce judgement and hate for people we do.🤷♀️
@TonyMoze10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the STAMPS 📌
@nimimerkillinen10 ай бұрын
@@optimismrules2512 maybe its easier to start there
@Windy25410 ай бұрын
thanks for taking the time to write this out
@nimimerkillinen10 ай бұрын
@@ryan.1990 depends on what kind of liberality one is talking about. if its say accepting homosexuality then whats the problem?
@bernicegoldham150910 ай бұрын
For years around 2 a.m. the KZfaq algorithm has fed me Robert Sapolsky's Stanford lectures... So this is right on time. 🤘
@nocturnaljoe954310 ай бұрын
I hear you.
@monztermovies10 ай бұрын
Omg, what a wonderful surprise this is! I didn’t think we would see much more of the GREAT Robert Sapolsky! ❤
@vincentblea428510 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂
@ExceptTin9 ай бұрын
Sapolsky's vigorous mind is clearly not slowing down and he has a great deal of ethical courage which requires a TON of mental and physiological energy. Don't let his gray hair and white beard fool you. I think he's got a lot of humble wisdom left to challenge us with!
@lindakautzman73888 ай бұрын
My thought exactly
@kurington.blogspot787610 ай бұрын
Sapolsky is a legend. His lectures are the best online.
@hififlipper10 ай бұрын
Thankes for the wonderful conversation with Robert Sapolsky! His Stanford lectures on the human evolution of behaviour are legendary. He gives so many examples, it is mindblowing and overwhelming. Love to see the man at his best today.
@emsmac809 ай бұрын
Man I love Robert Sapolsky... His lectures available on Stanford channel are awesome 👌
@aidanmeans534410 ай бұрын
Chris, I’ve been watching your videos for a couple years now all of them helping me to shape the person I am today. At this point, I consider your videos valuable for life. Thank you, Professor Chris.
@Astillion10 ай бұрын
This was an amazing interview! Such insight. I especially like the part where meritocracy is questioned. I have reflected on this a lot. When I was young, and much worse off in life, I leaned towards success in life being mostly about luck. Then, when I was becoming quite successful, I started thinking success was much more due to ones own efforts. Lately, as I've reflected even more on it, I am once again back to thinking it's largely about luck. And I fully recognize how privilaged I am. And the greatest privilage of all is that I was born in a wealthy western country. Had I been born in a poor country, or 100 years ago, I would not have been able to accomplich much in life I think. I hope you bring Robert back for a second interview at some point.
@carlhatchfield633510 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I love listening to/watching Dr. Sapolsky. I found the videos of his lectures at Stanford on youtube several years ago and I was hooked. To me, those are the REAL red pill (all of the "buckets", not just sexual dynamics or economics of relationships type stuff that seems to be what most of the channels focus on). And its meant for everyone, women and men. I've watched them all, (including anything else I could find from him) at least 3 times from the first class to the last. Theres so much information to absorb. Anyway, thank you Chris and Dr. Sapolsky for a great interview!
@ltwig4769 ай бұрын
Yes, same here. I stubbled across his Stanford lectures about 3 years ago and turned my brother onto them. He made sure to order this most recent book a month before it even came out. The buckets will surely stay in the minds of those students for life. LOL
@Addison-RN10 ай бұрын
As a nurse I know and see how stress effects people everyday and ppl brush it off because stress doesnt have a "face" as in people can look fine and be under stressed.
@AIRGEDOK10 ай бұрын
One of the ironies of "no free will" is that correction and incentives work. So if we treat people and ourselves as if we have free will and thus we must discipline ourselves to do exercise we WILL modify behaviour as if we had free will to do so. Coupled with that if you BELIEVE you have free will you mind can come up with the erroneous result that you do and this result is you finally going to the gym. There are so many advantages to believing in free will regardless of the truth of it. Also INCENTIVES work in a free will or no free will situation so setting up incentives as if you have free will regardless of the truth, will result in people achieving better results. So you have to set up society with incentives to reward those people lucky enough to have all the pieces in place to be successful as if free will exists. This is the major problem with "No free will / Free will" debate is that it becomes almost a pointless discussion. And the best defense is I don't believe we have no free will and it is not my fault for believing in free will so you might as well shut up about it. Also look how no free will people talk, "Once a week when you are about to judge someone harshly don't." That entire sentence it incoherent dribble if we have no free will. How do you "Don't or Do" if you have no free will? Exactly how do you act incrementally if you have no free will at all? The fact that no free will proponents have no way of expression expect using terms that require you the person to exercise free will show exactly how hollow their arguments are in terms of PRACTICAL use. Regardless of the truth of the claims we must ACT as if we have free will.
@a.g.539610 ай бұрын
Well, correction and incentives often work because they are vital for our survival and that automatically excludes our free will, it is simply based on survival and reproduction instincts. But our makeup is so complex that even that can be overridden, but that isn't our totally independent choice. Maybe it is easier to understand our lack of free will when we recognize how dependendent everything is from anything (cause and effect) You are right that in order to function we need some concept of free will, the same is true for seeing us in a better light than we truly are. We can't truly escape ourselves so let's just pretend...
@GearForTheYear10 ай бұрын
You don’t need the concept of free will to exist to be an agent in the world capable of making decisions. You just have to realize instead of magic sentient pixie dust making the decisions (‘you’), it is a composite of your past experiences/biology/knowledge which shapes your decision. Think of it more like using your knowledge to steer yourself and not some magical form of existence that is making decisions independent of everything else. All it requires is a shift in perspective and everything works fine.
@theG0thfather10 ай бұрын
@@GearForTheYear I don't think you understand what FREE WILL means. You can't "make decision" with out free will. You can't USE your knowledge to STEER without free will. You can't talk about this WITHOUT using agency terminology. Steering is an active act so you cant say steer. Make a decision is an act of agency again you can't use that terminology. Try to explain your position without using any term that requires action or agency it is impossible.
@GearForTheYear10 ай бұрын
@@theG0thfather not true. Your past experiences/biology/knowledge and the environment you are in steer you. You are the sum of your parts. This ethereal ‘you’, independent of your biology, doesn’t exist in this universe, so agency is still compatible in a universe without free will, it’s just not as simple as the concept of an independent soul. Decisions are made by computers all the time and they don’t have free will. 🤦♂️
@gpeschke10 ай бұрын
@@theG0thfatheryou(like most people, including Robert) misunderstand free will as being synonymous with agency. It's not. Lack of free will merely means that the universe is deterministic. A deterministic world can still have agents. You just need a (coherent) theory for agency, which most free will advocates lack.
@doomcake202010 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Dr. Sapolsky! So glad you got to do this interview, thank you!
@kopognr210 ай бұрын
What a legend Sapolsky. And Chris the best person to do this. Awesome.
@albertlevins919110 ай бұрын
"It's not the pursuit of happiness, it is the happiness of the pursuit." Exactly. Basically retelling the old wisdom: Life is about the journey, not the destination. Still, I like his way better, sounds like more people would be able to grasp this wording. Totally gonna say this, with proper reference. Personally, I learned the truth about chasing when I kicked a stim habit back when I was 19. The secret to a total recovery for me was to find something I wanted so badly that nothing could stop me. Then go for it. Like Chris says, "Just do the thing."
@JDWDMC10 ай бұрын
Pursuit.
@albertlevins919110 ай бұрын
Thanks, but seems like you missed the story for my misspelling. Maybe tomorrow you will see something useful. Thanks for reading.
@venkataponnaganti5 ай бұрын
Such a musical, eloquent articulation: I am beholden to Sapolsky, my Guru.
@gyges5495Ай бұрын
We can’t change parents, the time we are born into, our environment, our genes and so much more, but we can just be grateful we are alive and use our curiosity to do investigate this strange world.
@ColRusSer3 ай бұрын
As I’ve grown older, I’ve slowly come to a very similar conclusion to Dr. Sapolsky’s, and it truly does give a lot of freedom; freedom from judgement, of oneself and others. It increases empathy, and one really does begin to see that we are all in the same boat.
@harrymckenzie372510 ай бұрын
I've discovered that all my suffering is: difficult feelings and the resistance to those difficult feelings. The problem is that when distracted, it happens subconsciously (automatically). The solution is to remain conscious of it, in the now, welcoming and handling it instead of resisting it
@AurielArizola10 ай бұрын
Wow exactly what I'm currently dealing with.
@anonony908110 ай бұрын
Sounds like cognitive behavioral therapy basically. Stay mindful and consciously choose to feel differently about things
@SteveSteve7590-di2dn10 ай бұрын
@@anonony9081you can’t “choose “ to feel different lol
@sergeysolonskiy923810 ай бұрын
This is easily one of the best talks I have watched this year. Thank you to both of you and everyone who helped make this available to humans around the globe.
@DhanYellMhickz10 ай бұрын
"The lack of free will is incredibly liberating" My sides. This thinking is why communism just won't die.
@oysterchampion89984 ай бұрын
I get what you mean. I'm Christian and the way it still makes sense to me is that maybe ones free will is exercised spiritually at conception. I also have a diagnosed executive function disorder. Makes it far harder to do a lot of normal everyday tasks. It's not like I choose to "be lazy" . Now that I'm treated for it it kind of blows my mind everyone with "normal" brains aren't all Elon Musks by now. I think everyone can recognize that you can't will yourself to Elon Musk level. Just like I can't "try harder" and get normal results same as a paraplegic can't will themselves out of a wheel chair.
@CliveMoss2 ай бұрын
@@oysterchampion8998 You (or I ) can't will ourselves. But we will respond to inputs from others (like this one). There is no predestination. What others write and we read will change our mental state. We can't "try harder" but what we read will physically change our brain and thus our body..
@Echidna709512 күн бұрын
100%. Lots of people here dazzled by his "brilliance" - or baffled by this nuero-psycho babble b.s. Glad to find someone who can see thru this hardly original no free will argument'.
@roundaboutwithdan864910 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Dr. Sapolsky and Mr Williamson for providing this information. I'm in a relationship with someone who has experienced some trauma and want to apply some of these insights into helping her heal.
@petefromdewoods515710 ай бұрын
Robert Sapolsky is my spirit animal!!!
@amosdeanludwig313510 ай бұрын
One big problem that I see with Sam Harris and Robert discussing freewill is a failure to distinguish fault and responsibility, determinism removes fault but maintains responsibility
@andreascabreira9 ай бұрын
the title is misleading, it should be "an intelligent professor saying a lot of intelligent things, you'll love it!"
@louiscastillojlc8 ай бұрын
This man is such an inspiration for humanity 🙏🏼
@gracielilisboa10 ай бұрын
What a great surprise! Behave is my absolute favorite nonfiction book, and I never get tired of listening to Sapolsky. Chris is doing an excellent job at creating an unique podcast for those interested in psychology and neuroscience. Btw, I would love to see Haidt here too.
@jasonolinger758510 ай бұрын
If i was a lazy guy with no self esteem and entitlement i would love Robert Sapolsky.
@RishabhSharma102259 ай бұрын
@@jasonolinger7585 didn't ask
@AisforAtheist10 ай бұрын
I love watching lectures and interviews with Sapolsky. Brilliant.
@thetotaldepravity10 ай бұрын
I read Behave, without knowing very much about the brain and behavior. It was a great book. It takes some effort, but it is very rewarding, especially if you have had a traumatic childhood. It helped me to realise the reason why I am the way I am.
@civil44423 ай бұрын
I have also come to the realization that we have no free will. It’s great to hear this from an admired scholar! If I said this to others in my circle, it would upset them. I had been pushing myself to succeed financially for years, burned out my thyroid, almost ruined all my relationships, and neglected my health. After finding very little success I consider myself lucky to have ended up a little wiser than when I started. At first I was angry and depressed about it. But, I can still find joy. For me, joy never occurs in a profitable way. Much the opposite! 😂
@CONEHEADDK10 ай бұрын
One of the first teachers on YT, that I couldn't get enough of. Human Behavior Stanton - learned from those 25 x ca 100 minutes than from 12 years of "real" school.
@HannibalOrMaybeJustRex10 ай бұрын
Great episode as always. It'd be interesting to hear Sapolsky and Peterson discuss free will. He's making a lot of sense but so does Peterson when encouraging the adoption of responsibility. I'm struggling to reconcile the two as it seems like they maybe conflicting views as far as meaning is concerned.
@LotusHart0110 ай бұрын
Peterson said to Harris, “I act as though I have free will” I think it’s fine to adopt as much responsibility as you can sustain within your own volition. Free will is more about understanding that plenty of variables exist outside conscious awareness that affect human behavior. That the sense of being your ‘self’ is just as much an appearance in consciousness as hearing a knock at your door. You didn’t author the knock, but it appeared in consciousness all the same. Desiring to be responsible is also an appearance in consciousness. It’s an act of self-protection because you may believe responsibility will lead you to happiness or fulfillment of some kind. The drive influencing you to want such happiness exists outside of your own will even though the entire process of attaining the happiness, by means of responsibility for example, is simultaneously within your realm of conscious awareness so we tend to identify with it. However, we don’t identify with that knock on the door that also appeared within the same realm of consciousness as the feeling of being a ‘self.’ But neither are anymore or any less ‘you’ Therefore, we can better assess psychopathy, the misfortune of poverty, and things of that nature. Since we know that several factors contribute towards each human condition respectively, it’s more appropriate to support people who exist in worse circumstances than others by no fault of their own. This is because we understand circumstances matter and human behavior is heavily influenced by one's environment. Therefore, we stop blaming people for their misfortunes. Also, to distinguish the dangers of certain actions such as trying heroine. To know you are susceptible to addiction in ways beyond your 'will' can help deter one from ever experimenting with it in the first place, for example. Understanding that there is no free will unlocks an understanding of how to utilize those inclinations that we are a self with more accuracy. I think of it like a ship becoming better prepared for its journey by adjusting its sails and flowing with the winds. The sails are how we think about free will. The winds are our understanding of it. As our understanding changes, so should the way we conceptualize it going forward. That’s how I think about the two, anyway. For what it worth.
@Zen5610310 ай бұрын
I suppose one of the scarey possibilities of the "no free will" argument is that, if people see people as machines without free will, that "shutting down" (i.e. unalive them) bad people seems more reasonable. This is what we do with wild animals who attack people. We don't put dangerous wild animals in prison, we kill them to prevent more attacks. If there were robots walking around and some of them were dangerous, we wouldn't put them in prison, we'd just shut them off permanently.
@charon73207 ай бұрын
I've first seen sapolsky in stanford youtube channel and I was amazed with the opportunity to have those courses free, I am in deep gratitude that I live in a time where this information is free halfway across the globe and how this person lectures is amazingly organic and passionate, even the way he speaks has a beneficial stress relieve effect. best wishes
@DMGoggins10 ай бұрын
22:55 I don't think it's a matter of digging 8 hours without back pain, I think it's more of a matter of being able to dig through 8 hours of back pain.
@jozefwoo807910 ай бұрын
Amazing Sapolsky! Simply amazing. Modern wisdom bringing actual MODERN wisdom! And honestly, very well done Chris, you are making great progress (through no free will of you own 😂).
@robinlehnerd147510 ай бұрын
I really liked Sapolsky's lecture on chronic depression. Interestingly, I am unconvinced by many of his arguments in this discussion. I notice a strong maternal/empathic interpretation of the subject matter despite his employment of several ironically cold and logical statements. This is reasonable cause for suspicion that this natural bias is driving his arguments toward those conclusions. Claiming that nobody has free choice cannot be used as a strong argument for trying to alter anyone's behaviors. If nobody has free choice then nobody can alter behaviors by choice. This includes responsive behaviors. I.e. if criminals can't stop committing crimes then law enforcers can't stop punishing them. They are both contained within the same system.
@richfoster43698 ай бұрын
I feel like another thing that points out that we are far more deterministic then we like to think is empathy itself. We like to think that humans are capable of being unselfish but I’d disagree. Empathy is the ability to feel the emotions of others. Meaning those with empathy have there inherent selfishness tied in with others and there emotions. So if you where trying to find a control group and see how truly unselfish and benevolent humans are without there inherent selfish motivations motivating them to act in such a way you would use human without empathy as your control group. And that would be psychopaths and uh we KNOW they don’t act benevolently 😂😂
@GroundWork-se8my3 ай бұрын
He says that knowledge of knowledge alters your brain. You have no free will is simply to say, your will is a mechanistic outcome, but it can be altered by what is put into the mechanism, or changed about it.
@bobwheeler810110 ай бұрын
I’ve enjoyed MANY of your podcasts now, but this was so much better than any other!
@soez_strg616610 ай бұрын
No offense, but there's a huge problem with someone, who statistically had an easy life (studies on college students coming from academics mostly) trying to teach people how to deal with stress. Yea, if I had your problems, I wouldnt even need to do anything as thats no stress compared to the life an average person lives. Same way people from the slumps in some favela would laugh at my problems. - Fellow Molecular Biologist
@dandybufo966410 ай бұрын
Most of his stress research was on Baboons
@laurenmusso47197 ай бұрын
Look at the hoarding going on on the shelves……….. there are plenty of issues
@BrianCarey10 ай бұрын
So excited to see a new interview with Robert Sapolsky. Thanks Chris!
@KarmaKittyFubarZen10 ай бұрын
I don’t think we really have to worry about people being de incentivized. Superior ability whether it’s athletic ability or intellectual ability tends to be self rewarding. The ability to do the amazing thing is your reward. The reward for the ability to make amazing music is making amazing music. It feels super great to do things you’re good at.
@Bronco5413 ай бұрын
Cant *stress*(haha) enough how lovely it is that the interview immediately starts. No bullshit, no music, no intro, no "so how've you been lately"; just right into the meat and potatos.
@pomyao9 ай бұрын
Brilliant conversation to watch. Both of you shined. What a pleasure. Thanks.
@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal10 ай бұрын
Looking at the world through reasoned will vs free is a game changer. It’s a whole new level of humility.
@johnodonoghue65110 ай бұрын
a lot of buzzwords there. are you paid?
@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal10 ай бұрын
@@johnodonoghue651 hardly, finally happy someone else other than a handful of peeps now sees this. I was shown through a friend from UK the absurdity of ‘free’ will. Closer than ever to that field Rumi speaks of.
@alwynkotze989110 ай бұрын
@@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal Genuinely curious - what do you mean by "absurdity" of free will?
@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal10 ай бұрын
@@alwynkotze9891 The notion that our choices are freely expressed based upon another notion that ‘freedom’ exists. Trying to say you are free to do but not free from consequences is horsemalarkey, short-sited and disparages creativity. Not having an internal compass and letting the ‘universe’ decide…..Ya no. Even giving it up to God” (Gods in my personal practice) is still a Feedback loop. Feedback loops of time are always in charge long before we’ get a chance to weigh(Ma’At) in. We can walk away from many things of ‘our’ ‘free will’ but that’s not what happens. Our guts, our hearts our ‘souls’ react differently and are discerning what life throws at us. Our responses are measured as pointed out in the talk in our responses. Even outside of the brain auto responses, it’s to stimuli. Order in the chaos isn’t always symmetrical. It often is brutal when the balance meted out. Morality is and has been based on this merit scale yet the merit scale is grossly exaggerated for multiple gains and losses of the few that have control paradigms. Manipulations at play too often because life used the boot straps logic to makes fools of many. The Great Game was set upon false foundations and willing participants who wanted little to no accountability. Choice isn’t freedom when the options are shite from go by design. How do you see free will?
@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal10 ай бұрын
Also what from Camus? Is your favourite.
@HappyCat11115 ай бұрын
Sapolsky is one of the most brilliant biologists of our time. His pivotal book ‘Behave’ brings evolution, neuroscience and biology together in a seamless and meaningful way. Such a gifted scientist!
@macabea483710 ай бұрын
So good see Dr Sapolski again, his YT videos from Uni help me a lot long time ago to deal with myself. I love him❤ thanks
@antoniobarbalau110710 ай бұрын
This isn't gold. This is an entire mine of precious everything. Thank you both for everything ❤
@airrik26539 ай бұрын
Listening to this Stanford professor, makes it easier to understand what's been going on in our universities for the past 30 years, at least, and why the students are so indoctrinated...
@airrik26538 ай бұрын
Someone/something is responsible for me... "they" owe me respect, empathy... I deserve, I am entitled...
@IAlaIjust5 ай бұрын
We don’t have free will, we have the will to be free to be! And through the process of our sense of aliveness by detaching we can experience with fuller presence, straying from the control of mind to linger more with the attraction of ❤️
@Deanguilberry8 ай бұрын
I took up piano 8 years ago at 50 years old. I didn't do it to reduce my stress but if it would good, I thought. It has to be one of the most stress inducing things in my life. I still do It. I won't stop. I enjoy it more now then years ago. My recommendation for stress: stretching, slow breathing.
@jasonolinger758510 ай бұрын
If i was a lazy guy with no self esteem and entitlement i would love Robert Sapolsky.
@seisen9198 ай бұрын
Well your interpretation is very lazy, so id say youre his biggest fan.
@jasonolinger75858 ай бұрын
Well, your response to my comment is lazy so you must be extra lazy.
@ferkinskin10 ай бұрын
Love Sapolsky by the way. having my reservations at 1:06 though. So, to protect others you need to "quarantine" people, not punish them. Punishment though is in the eyes of the beholder. You are limiting their ability to integrate and interact freely with the world at large. Your intentions may be good and morally noble, but that will be perceived, by the person, as a punishment. the result of this is the aforementioned increased negative hormonal and epigentetic response, and therefore, the potential "punishment" apriori of his prodigy although, as we have already established, they can have no fault because it was determined. If the world gets free biscuits except for for 10 people, because when they eat biscuits they go ape and kill people, those 10 are going to see it as a punishment regardless of the fact that society is trying to prevent considerable potential deaths or not. They still don't get the free biscuits that everyone else gets. There is an inequality there that they are going to see as a punishment.
@LotusHart0110 ай бұрын
Understanding we don't have free will in the way we've thought about it doesn't mean you won't feel accomplished in pursuing a goal. Our brain rewards us with dopamine as a result. Still, the drive to want to make something of one's life is influenced by mechanisms beyond any individual's free will. I don't see this as devastating news but rather liberating. Like Sapolsky said, "It isn't the pursuit of happiness, it's the happiness of the pursuit."
@notheotherklaus5 ай бұрын
The books of Dr Robert Sapolsky are among my favourites! We need more biology, not less, in the self-confused social sciences.
@RMILLSMMA10 ай бұрын
Socio economic status also effects the likley hood of your mother smoking, drinking and generally not taking care of herself. Which id be inclined to believe is the real mechanism behind the findings in the early part of this lecture.. because thats what we are lucky enough to be getting in this awesome pod cast. 👍🏻
@lolwtfbbq1119 ай бұрын
That and also probably limited access to healthcare and proper education to make good food choices for child health
@AlecSorensen10 ай бұрын
Loved the first half, the first two-thirds, grounded in science. Honestly, I'm tired of scientists wading into the philosophy of free will with very little philosophical expertise, and ditching most of what they know about the scientific method. Discovering that external events can influence our decisions is not proof that no form of free will exists. There is a lot of evidence for free will, but people who already believe in a lack of free will are glomming onto a relatively small number of studies that show people are sometimes predictable (which is not the same thing as having no agency).
@marscruz10 ай бұрын
Belief in the concept of *No Free Will* is a recipe for nihilism, victimhood and blame of others for our problems. Accept that you can change and you will be able to do so. Believe that everything we can or will do is already predetermined is the *abyss.*
@Dartht33bagger10 ай бұрын
The second half of the podcast was hard to take. It screamed of "enlightenment" with no practical application - similar to Sam Harris when he came on. He never did answer what quarantine of a murderer would look like or how a society that doesn't create a meritocracy would continue to excel. That dipped strongly into Communist utopian speak as well. When this is the pinnacle of professors at university, its not hard to understand why modern college educated people have such corrosive ideas.
@AlecSorensen10 ай бұрын
@@marscruzWhile I do believe personally in the importance of free will, I'm not really upset that other people choose not to. I would say that even most people who believe in free will admit that there are influences or constraints, and it can be helpful to have empathy for constraints on other people, or to acknowledge constraints when examining your own failures. However, there's a pretty big line between arguing there *might* not be free and *there is no such thing as free will.* Very rarely do people in this latter camp actually do the work to cross the bridge between "there are constraints or influences" to "there cannot be any such thing as free will." Whether or not a lack of free will is a recipe for nihilism, jumping to that conclusion without laying out the groundwork is likely to cause problems.
@AlecSorensen10 ай бұрын
@@Dartht33bagger Yes, in this interview, we see that he generalizes pretty quickly from some studies that have shown that people who don't believe in free will can be moral (in that particular experiment) to there's absolutely no problem embracing this on a large scale and anyone who doesn't already believe this is medieval. This is progressivism as a pathology: not that we believe we can make progress, but post hoc defining whatever we are in favor of as progress and everything else as backward. The case of Sam Harris has been really enlightening. Probably some of the work he does around meditation is helpful... but his willingness to hide or distort the truth to fight once-in-a-lifetime existential threats, coupled with the fact that he's identified that he's treated at least 3 separate groups as once-in-a-lifetime existential threats really casts a lot of doubt on him. And all that crowing about how intellectually honest he is is more a warning side for blindspots than an objective statement. It turns out that even atheists fall into deceit, malice, tribalism, and orthodoxy. What bothered them all along weren't any of those things; it was merely the trappings of religion reminding them that someone ELSE with a different belief system was doing them.
@marscruz10 ай бұрын
@@AlecSorensen I agree with the idea of self or outside (cultural or societal) imposed "constraints" on our free will but to totally negate it seems to be an embracing of nihilism. How can a predetermined universe allow a person to find meaning and purpose if there is no way to influence the path of your life? It is the choosing of your actions and their consequences that gives feedback to your moral and spiritual process toward your goals of chasing the good, minimizing the damage. Who wants to be a robot merely performing a script? Sounds like nihilism to me. Behaviorists are just a step away from determinists. It's a victim's mentality.
@user-yi2lm7zs4s2 ай бұрын
I haven't heard much about the power of our mind to be grateful for each day & choose peace as our baseline
@tammyscott96648 ай бұрын
I can’t get enough of Dr Sapolsky…thank you for a great interview! Will be watching more of your podcasts…
@antonyshadowbanned10 ай бұрын
Finally, Sapolsky with a good microphone! That guy is a legend, maybe my absolutely favorite science communicator and the reason I studied neuroscience. In past podcasts he was using his airpods? the sound was always bad. And his voice is so good. I really needed this one :D
@homewall74410 ай бұрын
The problem with getting rid of merit and free will is that there are clearly people who WORK HARD and STUDY and THINK that will do better than those who do not work, study or think. Unlike a car with bad breaks, a person can improve capabilities without needing an external force to fix it.
@richfoster43698 ай бұрын
I feel like another thing that points out that we are far more deterministic then we like to think is empathy itself. We like to think that humans are capable of being unselfish but I’d disagree. Empathy is the ability to feel the emotions of others. Meaning those with empathy have there inherent selfishness tied in with others and there emotions. So if you where trying to find a control group and see how truly unselfish and benevolent humans are without there inherent selfish motivations motivating them to act in such a way you would use human without empathy as your control group. And that would be psychopaths and uh we KNOW they don’t act benevolently 😂😂
@L.A.W.Studios6 ай бұрын
Finally, a comment that takes to task this preposterous idea that free-will is some pipedream. Free Will is almost certainly more difficult a path to traverse, but it is the proverbial holy grail of pursuits in individualistic existance.
@celticsfan15546 ай бұрын
Are humans not pushed by many factors to push for those pursuits? It would be naive to think people just wake up and randomly do what they do. @@L.A.W.Studios
@kinolima2359 ай бұрын
❣️🌎 Every single moment is wonderful in our life ☀️✨️🪂 Thank you for warm and peace 🌍❣️
@shirleycirio68977 ай бұрын
Wait, what? I love looking in his pantry! Good for him, not having the library facade behind him. He is a truly wonderful human!
@lindakautzman73888 ай бұрын
Look forward to the day when we come to understand EVERYONE DOES THE BEST THEY CAN. THANK YOU DR SAPOLSKY
@uriituw4 ай бұрын
No need to shout.
@technic128510 ай бұрын
At about 11:00 they make the point about a baby's brain development being affected by the mother's social status. Is that more the status itself or the mother's _interpretation_ of it?
@jamm_affinity13 күн бұрын
I was wondering this too. I imagine that people who are more status conscious in general are more prone to stress
@StevanSRB10 ай бұрын
This is a pure blessing to listen to. Professor has an incredible mind. Thank you both.
@RKupyr5 ай бұрын
Chris, thank you for the excellent interview of Robert Sapolsky -- the best I've seen -- who I greatly enjoy listening to/reading. Your wit and humour really brought the conversation to a higher level.
@marcleblanc931310 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris for this amazing podcast , absolutely love your content .
@alchemist609810 ай бұрын
If there is no free will, what good is a strategy? Strategies require choice to implement them. Free will may not be. the major factor in determining human outcomes, but it must be a significant factor. “long term planning “ .implies free will As a chemist, I am amenable to the idea that life is a series of chemical reactions, but in the end this view dehumanizes us all.
@oongieboongie10 ай бұрын
You are trying to separate humans from physics
@aje636510 ай бұрын
See the fact that if there truly is no free will, then that has always been the case. So if long term planning has always appeared to be useful, its not going to suddenly become ineffective because you had an insight into the nature of reality. Nothing should change except how serious we are about our judgements and congratulations.
@lesleyjohnson84885 ай бұрын
I think the most amazing thing that Sapolsky has uncovered is that we don’t really need free will to be happy, healthy, productive humans. We just need the openness to seeing things as they actually are, and the attendant enlightenment that accompanies it is worth any silly loss of perceived agency.
@NeptoKiSam10 ай бұрын
I was 16yo when I've got an intrusive thought saying everything is written. It's there free will stopped existing for me. But it's also there I started to study which mind structures that led me into impulsivity, cognitive dissonances and also study the chains of causes and effects. Recognizing all the conditions that make a situation give the power to restructure the mindset and build a better life with an adjusted mindset. This saved my life and I'm happy to see a scientist saying that free will doesn't exist. It's where my life became a study laboratory to reprogram what was wrong in my thinking and free myself from my traumas impacts.
@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT10 ай бұрын
I love Dr. Sapolsky!
@szilardoberritter41358 ай бұрын
I respectfully think we have some free will. Even Mr.Sapolsky ask the question: how should we act if we don’t have free will? If so, the question doesn’t mean anything because we already act that way and can’t act otherwise. If we had absolutely no free will, we would act on every single impulse and idea, emotion we have. If we have no free will, we are nothing but an automation or algorithm, which only differs an average toaster in the volume of the computation and nothing else. We would just be a complicated,moisty toaster running on water, sugar and fat, unable to stop making toasts. Humans can do things, which every single cell of his body protests against, yet can still do it. Let’s say you move your left or right hand. I often think about the absolute first instance an action starts inside your brain at the sub-Planck sizes. If we could see something seemingly activating on its own, we could tell if there is free will or not, but science is not at this point of advancement yet. If there is no free will and everything is determined, and therefore everything is meaningless, how can one avoid the idea of a fate waiting just for you to happen, or an idea of god being behind it? If there is a fate for you, it is the meaning of everything and I don’t think one could circle around that. If it’s all determined and meaningless and there is no fate, that means everything is absolutely random and without structure or purpose, it would mean nothing matters, and you can do anything you want and it will be okay. Certainly neither is the case. If we were nothing more than I described, people would be totally okay in living a Brave New World-like dystopia where we can satisfy all our animalistic needs in an infantile way and absolutely love it. People also want freedom of all kinds, but we should ask, what do we actually want freedom from? We often want freedom of our bodily reactions, how can we only be a complicated toaster if that’s possible? I think reading Ernest Becker and Carl Jung for example explain clearly that we are more than a non-dualistic meat machine locked up in the prison of all possible circumstance. I also think we have very little free will and it varies from person to person. But the difference between a person and a robot is that little, and an advanced AI could be an actual human if it weren’t for that. We are unique because the idea or problem of existence became conscious in us, which is a paradox, since the universe created a life form which is capable of thinking of the universe and also itself. How weird is it, that photons and sounds would be absolutely useless, if there wasn’t a form of life to experience it? There is a kind of structure and not everything is just random, and even if very little, we must have some form of free will. If something “is”, it doesn’t mean it was “ought” to be. We could not improve ourselves and it would be okay to judge someone in any moment of bad behavior to be determined by his badness and one cannot be corrected. Free will is so real, that it can even change a person completely in some cases. For example: having to do something that is forced on you or can’t escape is certainly different than facing things on your own accords. And if free will is nothing but an illusion, why would the being of such a moist machine would be so unbearable that it was always going to be so hard that free will as a working and healing mechanism was always determined to happen, and free will was just there in its frozen state waiting for his future? What is even the part which suffers from the lack of freedom in the prison of the body? Which two parts are contradicted by each other in your psyche and body? Either way, saying there is no free will imo runs into contradicting logical conclusions and can only be a form of belief as we can’t be certain about it, and things are usually not tabula rasa, black or white, 100% this or that. But i’m not qualified to judge the great Robert Sapolsky in any way to be honest, and I was just sharing my idea and continuing to enjoy his works and ideas.
@Nyghl07 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this conversation ended on the note of Free Will. It's so critical that we get this truth in our heads and adapt accordingly.
@edmikhael17 ай бұрын
Thank you for how intelligently you added value to this conversation. I am one of the people that don’t have much to be proud of and don’t understand how there’s no free will but I decided what to eat yesterday and to go to work today and that sort of stuff. I would love an explanation and thank you in advance 🌹🌹
@marcc1610 ай бұрын
Love Sapolsky. Every other academic: let me setup my webcam in front of all my books to show how smart and learned i am. Sapolsky: lemme pop open my chromebook in my pantry while im waiting for a crockpot of soup to boil.
@lonecandle578610 ай бұрын
You'd also need penalties for the basis of deterrence. Both deterring that person from doing again (when they are not in jail or killed), and deterring others.
@lillierose53049 ай бұрын
I don't think that realizing there's no free will is depressing at all!! The irony is that it is so freeing to know we aren't free! I was so riddled with guilt, shame, self hatred, sometimes blame. Now I'm so free of these things and the 'me' feels so much relief. ❤
@lucchinl10 ай бұрын
I shall use my freewill to not judge others for their lack of freewill and disposition in life.