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@BlackBeltBarrister 9 ай бұрын
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@tooldtoplay5892 9 ай бұрын
Of topic question if you have time please, I am being taken to court by a debt collector about a ESTIMATED electric bill from 5-6 years ago ignoring the fact I personally think it was past 6 years the fact the debt it based of an estimated reading as far as I can see can not be done is that correct or can they take me to court based on an estimated bill?
@BlackBeltBarrister 9 ай бұрын
@@tooldtoplay5892 Estimates are often accepted by a court regarding quantum (value) - but you might want to check what you've paid within that time in order to dispute it!
@MrXlee1967 9 ай бұрын
@@BlackBeltBarristercan you please talk about the Palestinian flag or scarf. Are we allowed to wear it? Not asking you to take a stance against genocide. Just wanted to know why police are knocking on people's doors and telling them can you lower the Palestinian flag can they stop someone from wearing a Palestinian scarf I do know the government is trying something from the two people that are in power. Thank you
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@TTM1895 9 ай бұрын
Don't talk to the agent when they come to the door. Politely say no thank you, and close the door and lock it.
@theskidmarkoforion4829 9 ай бұрын
This video should have said..don’t talk to the goons..the end 😂. They can’t just rock up to the court demanding a warrant unless they have concrete evidence I.e video of you watching Eastenders. It’s a scam.
@petebennett3733 9 ай бұрын
Dont talk too...and politely say no thank you.....erm which you going for there
@scottsound4711 9 ай бұрын
You talk too much 2 Much You’re under no obligation to open your 🚪 let alone speak .
@Number6_ 8 ай бұрын
Don't even open the door. Just saying no thank you is contact and can be put down as an interview on door step. Like collection letters, emails, phone calls or agents. Just saying your name is contact and an admission that you owe them money. Never respond. Unless you intend to pay.
@muz84za 9 ай бұрын
The fact that you can be perfectly within the law and still have to put up with all this harassment and intimidation is ridiculous how are they allowed to get away with it.
@stephenwabaxter 9 ай бұрын
I'm calling for the legislation to be rewritten to make it fit for the 21st century.
@joe90ninetywc 9 ай бұрын
This just shows how bad British Law is !!!
@scottsound4711 9 ай бұрын
Just revoke the implied right of access & learn the law , stop being lazy
@joe90ninetywc 9 ай бұрын
@@scottsound4711 if you invoke their implied right of access you are then asking for a court to grant them a warrant to search your house because the court will think you have something to hide, better just blank them and don’t speak to them at your door just close your door on them then they have nothing further to investigate.
@Radfordperson 9 ай бұрын
@@joe90ninetywc Perfect advice.
@traceymitchell6619 9 ай бұрын
I have had quite a few of them over the years and they always start by asking your name, they do not introduce themselves. I just reply asking them who they are and when they say TV Licence, I just say no thanks and shut the door, that's it. I get letters on a regular basis which are binned immediately. I also refuse to inform them that I do not need a licence, I know some people think it's better to do that but I don't, that is giving them your personal details, something I am not prepared to do. None of their business who I am. I am not bowing down to threatening and intimidating behaviour because they are going to send some sales rep to my door.
@Gryffster 9 ай бұрын
Save here. They are effectively interrogating you
@mda5003 9 ай бұрын
They want your name as they wouldn't be able to prosecute Mr or Mrs Present Occupier although maybe someone does in fact have the name Theo Ccupier....
@chrissymon 9 ай бұрын
@traceymitchell... Top marks to you. Nobodys' business who you are.👍
@asambrook76 9 ай бұрын
I get letters off them addressed to Mr P Occupier occasionally, I did force them to remove my details under GDPR though... Gives me pedantic little chuckle now and then.
@anonnona8099 9 ай бұрын
@@mda5003 > They want your name as they wouldn't be able to prosecute Mr or Mrs Present > Occupier although maybe someone does in fact have the name Theo Ccupier.... I once heard a story (probably apocryphal) of someone involved in theft of mail who'd found his haul included cheques to the taxman, so he opened a bank account (this was so long ago that there were no AML regulations, and no proper ID checks when opening bank accounts) in the name of Mr. I. N. Landrevenue.
@garyhendrie4001 9 ай бұрын
One tip: don't open the door to them. If you do inadvertently answer the door, close it once they identify themselves without saying anything to them.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
or better still ask them about Sky packages, they hate that!
@robc3056 9 ай бұрын
@@robtheplod you need one to watch sky ....
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
this was more on the time wasting aspect as they are on commission... ask about NetFlix or why BT keep parking their van in front of your house etc...!@@robc3056
@chrisbuxton1958 9 ай бұрын
Spot on. Say nothing to the goons.
@stephenwabaxter 9 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming 9 ай бұрын
The recent BBC controversy about not calling Hamas terrorists has removed the final strand of respectable authority that the BBC had. Time to cancel the TV License.
@BarbelltoTrail 9 ай бұрын
I can 100% confirm that TV Licence do pursue convictions after you've bought a licence to the doorstep. I used to work in the magistrates court and this was one of the things we dealt with most. Also the agent very rarely told the individual that they would be convicted.
@stephenwabaxter 9 ай бұрын
The safest thing is not to engage with them at all.
@twig3288 9 ай бұрын
Purchasing a licence on the doorstep in and of itself is not evidence of evasion. The householder may have just decided that they wish to start viewing broadcast tv after they became licensed so their would need to be some other issue such as an admission of guilt.
@PsychicLord 9 ай бұрын
@@twig3288 Normally the householder has already admitted unlicenced usage, and is trying to avoid being reported for the offence. A licence purchased at the door is only valid from the beginning of the that month. In some cases, such as minimum unlicenced use, the householder is not reported for prosecution; instead their licence is 'backdated' to the appropriate time period (this is notified to them via letter).
@iggysfriend4431 9 ай бұрын
I made a 2 year declaration for not needing a TV licence. I had no letters for 3 months. Then, they started coming. I've now received 29 of them.
@Gryffster 9 ай бұрын
Just don't do the declaration. You have zero obligation to do so, and you just encourage their bullying behaviour
@iggysfriend4431 9 ай бұрын
@@GryffsterI made the declaration because stupidly I thought it might prevent their bullying behaviour. I now know better. It's been about 3 years now since I stopped watching live TV and I've not made any more declarations, I've learnt the error of my ways and how pointless the declaration is. They appear to ignore them anyway.
@tankgrief1031 9 ай бұрын
@@iggysfriend4431 Nice one. Have they visited yet?
@iggysfriend4431 9 ай бұрын
@@tankgrief1031 Nope, just 29 threat-o-grams the usual £1,000 fine & prison.
@peterh9238 9 ай бұрын
Ive had over 30 threat-o-grams and two visits in 2 1/2 years The 2 visits they made NO attempt to ring the door bell, they just pushed a hand written note through the letter box, @@iggysfriend4431
@martin10172 9 ай бұрын
I don't need a tv license, My tv works perfectly well without one!
@CodingAbroad 9 ай бұрын
We really just need to outlaw tvl. The fact that they prey on the vulnerable who will most likely talk to them and then open themselves up to prosecution is sickening
@pjcnet 9 ай бұрын
The problem is the government will almost certainly fund the BBC via another tax that we'll be forced to pay making it even worse in some ways. People need to campaign for the BBC to stand on their own two feet in fair competition rather than just for the licence to be scrapped.
@peter2346 9 ай бұрын
yes. tvl is 3000 employes force of PARASITES. they should change their business to do something useful to the society
@statementleaver8095 9 ай бұрын
Government are happy to provide for Single Mothers with multiple children whilst No mention of who the Father is!!! Whilst Mother is an Addict or considered as Disabled
@account01289 9 ай бұрын
That is so true! I've only ever seen them bother ppl in the poorest parts of town, now that I'm in a new development in the town centre the most they do is send letters!
@account01289 9 ай бұрын
@@pjcnetalso if they made their content online a monthly subscription I would probably buy it to watch over the holidays and stuff. But I refuse to pay for a licence like they demand
@robertfisher7723 9 ай бұрын
I have lived here for over 40 years and do not own a tv nor use a computer to do so. They used to send a form asking why I had no tv licence which I sent back without a stamp. Now they just accuse me of being guilty have sent letters in red envelopes and threats. I decline togive them either my phone number or email address. Crapita are no doubt on a bonus system so when they do turn up I will just ask them to leave pointing at the neighbourhood watch displayed notice of no business conducted at the door. Another excellent piece of advice Daniel
@fredbloggs5902 9 ай бұрын
If you watch live TV or iPlayer on a smartphone then you’re required to have a licence.
@robertfisher7723 9 ай бұрын
My phone is so old I have yo wind it up every night. 2G suits me just fine about 3 texts a week on average.
@fredbloggs5902 9 ай бұрын
@@robertfisher7723 Then how are you posting comments on KZfaq and watching these videos?
@timesquare5473 9 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902 He has the use of a friends device 😉
@robertfisher7723 9 ай бұрын
Computer and if the court so orders it any history will not show any tv. You tube is not covered by the tvl
@Phoenix2312 9 ай бұрын
Tip Number 4 is very important ... I would not say it is widespread, but I did know someone who worked for TVL who did fill in details after the fact... He was an old school friend and I caught him doing it! He had not been in TVL very long and did not last as he was caught by his bosses and was fired! So it is also NOT something that Capita knowingly encourage... It is something they will happily turn a blind eye to though! Much like a wrestling Referee... If they dont see it, They cannot call it!
@Galahadfairlight 9 ай бұрын
I answer the door, they ask "is Mr.X there?", I ask them who are they, they would invariably just repeat what they said, and I would ask "But who are you???", they respond "tv licencing" , I then say "have a good day" and then close the door on them. That is the ONLY conversation you need to have with them, and at no point would that be grounds for warrant being issued, which is rarely issued in any case. Dont try and be clever and entering into a debate telling them "i dont need to because x reason", once you know who they are, you just shut them down and close the door. What happens? Those TV licence letters keep on coming, but they no longer have your name, merely "The occupier" on them. They've lost at that stage, because they dont even know who you are, because you didnt confirm anything with them, and didnt give them even the slightest hint or detail.
@plh256 9 ай бұрын
Happened to me, many years ago when I forgot to renew. Sold licence on door, letter changing the date of the licence to follow on from previous one, and then still prosecuted. In court they gave "protection of revenue" as the reason for the backdating, but I still got fined. Ever since, I will do everything legal to obstruct them and cost them money.
@peachent 9 ай бұрын
That only happened because you agreed to enter into a contract with them and broke the terms of the contract you agreed to, then agreed to pay a fine. If you had declined from the outset there would be no contract, and therefore no fine. I have never paid for a TV licence, because I have never agreed to pay for one.
@jackwaycombe 9 ай бұрын
What I simply fail to understand is how the BBC/Crapitas continually get away with the kind of harassment that would land me and you in court very quickly. And if repeated, surely enjoying a custodial sentence. The TV licence isn't just wrong - it's profoundly stupid. And we can always tell a stupid law by how rigmarolic and desperate the measures needed to support it become. In 2023, this one is as logically unsupportable as the Window Tax.
@dyschromotopia 9 ай бұрын
Because it is state sanctioned &, in general, the public are apathetic, ignorant of their rights & consequently passive. People care more about how crucial their credit score is to that ikea kitchen than they do about their civil freedoms.
@anonnona8099 9 ай бұрын
@@dyschromotopia > Because it is state sanctioned &, in general, the public are apathetic, ignorant > of their rights & consequently passive. People care more about how crucial > their credit score is to that ikea kitchen than they do about their civil freedoms. And some people are grown up enough to not think that objecting to TV Licences makes them some kind of freedom fighter.
@dyschromotopia 9 ай бұрын
@@anonnona8099 whatever that might refer to.
@anonnona8099 9 ай бұрын
@@dyschromotopia > @anonnona8099 whatever that might refer to. Err.... it refers to the comment from @dyschromotopia *WHICH I QUOTED*. You can do this reading and paying attention thing, right?
@dyschromotopia 9 ай бұрын
@@anonnona8099 & the point of your posts is what? I'm often entertained by conceited individuals as they usually possess some level of wit...but vapid rhetoric is a bit dull.
@jamesdouglaswhittaker1811 9 ай бұрын
Question-how do we ,the public, recognise a warrant with the certainty that it is genuine ? . By far the majority of people ave never seen one - which invites the possibility of underhand behaviour - does it not ? Especially with ‘tricky‘ people
@funinthewoods7067 9 ай бұрын
You won’t get an answer to that one I’m sure.
@mousehouse4617 9 ай бұрын
I was going to ask the same
@jasonuren3479 9 ай бұрын
I believe examples can be found online with an image search.
@shanematthews1985 9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure any legitimate warrant needs to be served by a police official, so no police present, then ignore it until there is
@jamesamos2062 9 ай бұрын
If it doesn't have a proper county court seal and must be signed in wet ink by a judge, not a clerk to the justices..pp..the police are not allowed to assist in any forced entry to do so is to act at the paid behest of a corporate entity and can be sued as third party interlopers.
@mikedempsey1496 9 ай бұрын
Just dont engage with them. Knock Knock tv licencing. Not today thank you. Close the door.
@williambarnes3868 9 ай бұрын
You only need ONE tip. Do not ever speak to the goons and do not respond to the threatograms. Simples!
@williammurray6921 4 ай бұрын
Why do the tv inspectors need a warrant to check your equipment when the ‘crime’ is watching bbc content not owning a tv
@jasonuren3479 9 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for doing these. It's also worth noting, for those worried about the threat of going to prison is that, to my knowledge, the only way that a prison sentence is handed down, would be in the case of a refusal to pay the fine given if you do have to appear in court, not for non payment of the licence fee.
@TheBigfatmatt 9 ай бұрын
Highly unlikely to get sent to prison at the moment for no tv licence seeing the lack of prison space in the country at the moment
@jasonuren3479 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBigfatmattAgree. And it's historically such a rare event anyway, the chances are pretty much slim to none. I read an foi some time ago and I'm sure it said back then it was only around one or two a year in the whole country.
@laceandwhisky 9 ай бұрын
A few years ago there were a couple who did if I remember right 28 days in prison, but they were persistent offenders with the licence and not paying the fine. Likelihood of contempt of court at the moment would result in suspended sentence and community work 😊
@modelsfirst 9 ай бұрын
NO CONTACT, no contact, no contact & just bin their Threatograms. If you open the door to them just shut the door in their face while (IMPORTANT) not uttering a single word & this renders TVL goons completely impotent - not a thing they can do.
@Gryffster 9 ай бұрын
The right approach
@allygilmour6182 9 ай бұрын
Best advice ever. Some idiots can't grasp this though looking through some comments.
@iain_grant 9 ай бұрын
I used to get so many love letters when I didn’t need a license. I had some terrible crapita visits also. No one ever got my name or entered the premises no matter what they said.
@pstanyer1 9 ай бұрын
You do not have to speak to them. You do not have to even answer the door. Even if they have a warranty don't answer the door. Use a ring door bell. And if you want to let them in as they come in you leave and go shopping. That way you are not obstructing them. You also do not have to identify yourself or be Interviewed by them
@noelward8047 9 ай бұрын
No doubt there are some watching 'live' TV without the necessary license ... which is wrong. The problem is that those of us do not pay the TV Tax because we do not need to are presumed guilty of breaking the law. This is plain wrong.
@michaelsteane9926 9 ай бұрын
If you watch live TV not produced by the BBC it is morally wrong that you should have to pay the BBC anything for the privilege.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
dont forget the licence was introduced in the 1940's when you had no choice and it suits them no to change it@@michaelsteane9926
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
So what do you propose should be done? Those that do not pay for a TV license but do watch TV or use BBS iPlayer are guilty and are getting away with it. That is also wrong.
@brib6194 9 ай бұрын
If you are confident enough, do talk to the agent that turns up at your home and politely ask how they got there, if it turns out to be a private vehicle which it almost certainly will be, then ask if they are here on business and do they have business insurance 😂
@dougaldouglas8842 9 ай бұрын
Do not open the door, do not have your curtains open of an evening; just ignore and get on with life. Must be about eleven or so years since I had a visit from the leeches, though it makes me laugh as I have no tell a lie vision, would not have one in the house, and refuse to go into places where there is one on.
@mpol701 9 ай бұрын
But u have I presume a device that can watch live broadcasts and iPlayer, u can have devices including tv it's them having to prove u disobey the law, as bbb says don't just let it go to court, single justice, you'll be found guilty, challenge it bring those prosecutions down, state to judge u can own a tv or device, tv licensing have got to prove u broke the tv licensing laws
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
Why not have your curtains open? if you're not watching live TV/iplayer then no problem.... dont live in fear, they are only there to sell you a BBC subscription you dont want.
@dougaldouglas8842 9 ай бұрын
@@robtheplod It is only if you are watching live tv, because the vermin will film you watching it and submitting the evidence to court, that is all that is being said
@dougaldouglas8842 9 ай бұрын
@@mpol701 You open your curtains and sit back and watch them film what you are watching, that is enough. However, just owning a tell li vision is not enough, or other devices, so any prosecution must fail
@neillpowell14 9 ай бұрын
I am most certainly stubborn by nature. Especially when faced with blatant bs. Many thanks for making these videos. The law is a minefield and normal people end up not knowing their fundamental rights. I live in NI, not sure if the laws are the same, however I have not owned (or live streamed their shit shows) in 15 years so I literally ignore all letters and house calls. They can knock all they like
@gary0768 9 ай бұрын
They love it when children answer the door, and they ask them what programs they've been watching. It's one of their favourite tactics
@becky2235 9 ай бұрын
That's absolutely disgusting how do they sleep at night?
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
Wrong. It is absolutely disgusting that people who have a TV, watch it or use BBC iPlayer are allowed to get away with it. Those of us who do have a license have to pay fro these freeloaders.@@becky2235
@boozapup1284 9 ай бұрын
When filling in any written form I always line through / cross out anything which is not either filled in by myself or applicable to whatever I'm filling the form in for - that way if anything is filled in later it has to be explained why the area was crossed out and then filled in (if a genuine mistake happens, sign, not initial, sign next to the correction). Also sign each page of the form and in your own writing label each page "Page n of nn" - saves any extra sheets being inserted.
@denlsgoulden2307 9 ай бұрын
About time this ridiculous tax was scrapped, the BBC should be funded by subscriptions and or adverts 🙄
@MikeEves 9 ай бұрын
It already is a subscription. I don't subscribe, so I don't pay.
@markpaul1154 9 ай бұрын
Point 6, one thing I can say is this. They will not want that warrant showing in a real court, for how it was obtained and the false perjured evidence presented to obtain it is the last thing they will want to be examined. So the obstruction threat, is mute, plus there is no record of it ever happening.
@dh2032 9 ай бұрын
warrant showing in a real court, yes, as BBB has said or with say in the video later, an absent of any communication from your side, could be used as evidence, not much evidence, but if they stick it with anything else short of out right lies, they will have a better case, and the last point your are deal with pro's, and I un less pick on some one BBB, to take to court, they will have the home advantage, on there side too?
@Gryffster 9 ай бұрын
They absolutely cannot use your unwillingness to communicate with them as evidence of anything.
@DanSmithBK 9 ай бұрын
I called them about 8 years ago when I moved in, gave them my address but not my name, told them I have removed their implied rights of access, and let them know that if anyone ever turned up, I’d take a picture of them and post it on the internet with the words ‘paedo supporter’ on it, as that’s what they are. Haven’t heard from them since!
@alanscott6578 Ай бұрын
well done
@johnbowkett80 9 ай бұрын
I refuse to pay for propaganda .... End of chat . 😠🏴
@user-ez9kd4sy3f 5 ай бұрын
What I would like to know is how civilians, and that's what Captta are, civilians, is how they can be issued with warrants. In Scotland they are not allowed, so why are they given warrants. They are not any government agencies . Regards Gary Hall
@johnmartin7946 9 ай бұрын
Why can’t they scrap the TV licence and have a payed app instead, we can then get rid of all this bureaucratic nonsense
@killpop8255 9 ай бұрын
because there's not enough viewers willing to pay?
@timesquare5473 9 ай бұрын
Cause many wouldn't bother signing up; certainly not 24 million of the current lot.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
Because they get more money this way as people keep paying them.....
@keithdavies1395 9 ай бұрын
Don't open the door.
@peachent 9 ай бұрын
Tell them to sod off, just like I did. There is no contract and they have absolutely no power to prosecute. If they contact you two or more times, without your consent, it is actually a criminal offence and you can prosecute them.
@kienhwengtai8113 9 ай бұрын
Australia got rid those TV and radio licenses in ... 1974.
@cae6365 8 ай бұрын
Black belt Barrister, Thanks many times over for what you do. It is very much appreciated.
@ajax201000 9 ай бұрын
The only tip you need to live by is to never let them in to your property, they cannot prove anything unless you admit to anything or invite them in.
@marklittler784 9 ай бұрын
Don't even bother acknowledging you're in , many homes have CCTV or ring doorbell
@robotsonmars1989 9 ай бұрын
@@marklittler784Depends if they can see your massive TV from the pavement 😂😂😂
@marklittler784 9 ай бұрын
@@robotsonmars1989 And whether it's actually displaying live TV, then there's the question of invasion of privacy being a peeping tom being close enough to recognise what's on it.
@robotsonmars1989 9 ай бұрын
@@marklittler784 anything you can see from a public space is ok.
@ajax201000 9 ай бұрын
@@robotsonmars1989 It doesnt matter if they see your TV, having a TV does not require you to have a TV license. Only if you watch live television or BBC iplayer do you need a license.
@-11114 4 ай бұрын
Another First Class presentation thanks again
@account01289 9 ай бұрын
I find it funny that they keep sending me letters saying they're going to send someone round (which never happens) but when I lived in the run down part of town in my first ever flat they did almost immediately. We had a TV yes but it wasn't plugged in we didn't watch TV nevermind have the ability to but yet they managed to persuade me into buying a licence that day ... Never again!
@tooyoungtobeold8756 7 ай бұрын
Instead of calling the Agents, call them what they are Salesmen, they received commission for every licence sold on the door step.
@robotsonmars1989 9 ай бұрын
Well my issue is I have an 8x10 foot window through which you can clearly see my 65 inch TV screen from 20 yards down the street showing all the live sport I love to watch… Now I could leave my large living room in my large detached house and move the whole lot into a small box room I have but that seems a little extreme. 😂😂😂
@elfspicer 9 ай бұрын
Let's cut to the chase: NEVER ENGAGE WITH TVL IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Simple.
@mattwoodford1820 9 ай бұрын
I think if someone were really cynical they might be lead to believe the website confusion and pressurising letters are part of the way they maximise the dwindling number of licenses that they sell. Would be really interesting to see the grounds on which these single justice procedures are found guilty.
@paulwilliams8725 9 ай бұрын
Dont open the door , havnt paid mine for 18 years .
@PsychicLord 9 ай бұрын
If you purchase a TV licence on your doorstep, it is valid ONLY from the beginning of that current month. In other words, if you have evaded the licence fee for [say] 4 months, then you have not paid for the previous months. Hence you can be reported for potential prosecution for any unlicenced usage. TV Licence officials will [or should] clearly state that purchasing such a licence does not prevent being reported for the offence.
@timhitchman2881 9 ай бұрын
You are only evading the tv licence (as you but it) if you are watching something you shouldn't be watching, the same as You wouldn't be evading a driving licence if you do not drive.
@marklittler784 9 ай бұрын
Make sure your fast asleep when they turn up
@Drew-mr6tr 9 ай бұрын
I find it ironic that youtube is now outlawing ad-blockers, yet the first ad that I'm served is for, yes you guessed it, an ad-blocker. FFS.
@killpop8255 9 ай бұрын
They have allowed all kinds of untruthful adverts on their platform especially for heaters. Quite a few of those.
@darreno9874 9 ай бұрын
Unless they have a warrant just say no thanks and shut the door.
@MikeEves 9 ай бұрын
Shut the door if they do have a warrant.
@peterking8586 9 ай бұрын
Take a copy/photograph of the form if you do sign.
@davidrennie8197 9 ай бұрын
I send letters back with "Return to Sender" on the front and FOAD on the back
@sebbiechu 9 ай бұрын
I just called them and explained that I don't watch Live TV. They cancelled it, gave a refund and documented that the property does not need a license for two years.
@theskidmarkoforion4829 9 ай бұрын
I’m certainly not informing them I don’t need a license. Let them waste their money sending goons and ridiculous threat o grams to our house.
@noelward8047 9 ай бұрын
How much court time is being used to persue people for TV Tax 'evassion' ? How much is this costing the public purse ?
@MikeEves 9 ай бұрын
I like getting the letters, they remind me of how much money I'm saving (over £1k now) by not having a TV licence.
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
But do you have and use a TV? If you do then you are a nasty freeloader sponging on the rest of us.
@livingart2576 9 ай бұрын
I just told the Tv licensing company I don’t need a license. I haven’t watched Tv in years now. Netflix, KZfaq, Disney and Prime ensure I always have something to watch. They have been sending me letters every month and it’s getting annoying, specially within the way they word their letters and what fonts they use etc. would have been nice to tell an inspector to pîss off lol
@killpop8255 9 ай бұрын
did you tell them you use youtube and amazon prime?
@mikepembo8297 9 ай бұрын
Annoyingly, if you watch any KZfaqr (or Twitch) do a live stream you need a licence. That is, if the strict letter of the law is followed. Likewise if you watch a KZfaq stream of a Nasa rocket launch in the USA (while you're in the UK) for example, you still need a licence.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
sorry that is incorrect. only if the the KZfaqr is a broadcaster such as Sky/BBC etc - bloke in his bedroom KZfaqrs no licence needed....@@mikepembo8297
@thegrimsaxon790 9 ай бұрын
@@mikepembo8297 That is not true. From the TVL website "A licence is not required to view user generated content, clips and videos on KZfaq. This includes live streamed content that is not part of a television broadcast. Or being broadcast at the same time by other means.".
@mikepembo8297 9 ай бұрын
@thegrimsaxon790 define user generated. Staying with the Nasa rocket launch example, this would not be a "user" and rather a business. Where does a "user" become a broadcaster? The TVL rules are awful and it needs to be axed
@Rabmac1UK 4 ай бұрын
Thank You so much BBB................The 'Single Justice' documents dropped on my doorstep...Court coming I thought = Panic Fortunately ? I have a diagnosis of PTSD and responded accordingly to the Agent that I was in fear of Authority Additionally the Agent had falsely claimed that I had invited him in, which fellow PTSD sufferers will know is EXTREMELY unlikely. Nonetheless I signed his electronic form...Don't sign anything
@mikehipperson 9 ай бұрын
I find it quite insidious that TVL/BBC/Crapita are now using the wording that defendants are have been 'found to be in possession of equipment capable of recieving TV programmes' rather than simply 'watching' said equipment! It's a bit like owning a pair of scissors but not using them to cut your hair or using a microwave oven to dry your socks!
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
yes they like legal type jargon it confuses and frightens people....
@Syptah47 6 ай бұрын
Got a visit from a goon at my last address. When he said would i sign this form, i ssaid "No problem" .. then i said "Have you got a pen? He gave me his .. i then just shut the door! Thats the Cracker Jack pen i never got off Don Mclean!!😂
@melanieeyquem1250 9 ай бұрын
About 20 years ago I refused to pay for my tv license after I couldn’t afford it, and back then I got took to court. I didn’t turn up for the court case and they took the decision on themselves to take out what I owed straight out of my benefits. I was on income support, single mother with a very young child. I didn’t have a choice because I didn’t turn up. The mistake I made was starting to make the payments in the first place. Since then I moved house and didn’t make one payment. I keep getting these letters, saying they are going to turn up etc. Except they have no idea of my identity and they don’t get addressed to me personally, just the person who lives at the address. I never reply and they haven’t once turned up, it’s just a threat to scare you. I don’t know if they still take people to court as that was a long time ago, but I will never reply or get back in touch with them
@chrisbuxton1958 9 ай бұрын
Perfect.
@melanieeyquem1250 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisbuxton1958 well I don’t watch tv so why should I bloody buy one. Plus I don’t agree with it full stop. I feel sorry for the old people they harass and scare 😢😢
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
So you thought that continuing to use a TV and freeloading on the rest of us who have TVs and do pay for our licenses was OK then? Would you go into a shop and steal stuff and claim that it was OK as well? If you still have a TV and are not paying the license fee then you are a nasty criminal, nothing less.
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
It all depends whether they have a TV and whether they have bought a license. Simple. If they have a TV and have not bought a license they deserve to be harassed.@@melanieeyquem1250
@melanieeyquem1250 9 ай бұрын
@@rogerphelps9939 I don’t watch tv
@noelward8047 9 ай бұрын
As ChiiliJonCarnie says, when the goons arrive ... 'No thank you' and close your door.
@adrianfoy6790 9 ай бұрын
Errr Just don't pay it !! Never have Never Will !!😊
@alantheloneranger 9 ай бұрын
What if you just say no thankyou and close the door but they lie about speaking to you and make things up to get you prosecuted. Unless they record any conversation then it is their word against yours. If you do speak to them and reveal that you do watch or record broadcast TV without a licence, and they have no evidence of the conversation, how can they possibly get you prosecuted when it's their word against yours
@greenbow7888 9 ай бұрын
Start filming with your moblile phone as soon as they say who they are.
@PilotChris06FW 9 ай бұрын
This is the most sensible video you have made on TV license. Never contact TV license, say nothing at all. Oh and never issue a withdrawal of implied rights of access. Never make yourself a potential target.
@scottsound4711 9 ай бұрын
Always revoke the implied rights of access, why wouldn’t you ?
@laceandwhisky 9 ай бұрын
Knock knock . Ring ring... Hello who are you....TV licencing ...... No Thanks....shut door have a smug cup of tea😊
@soophatahphan3188 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Daniel, for warning about signing form❗
@margaretwilliams3020 9 ай бұрын
About 4 weeks ago I thought I had sorted my no need for a TV license when I got a nasty theming letter so I called them apparently there had been a crossover in communications ( 4 weekend!!!) And I had not got anything to worry about 😅😅
@Gryffster 9 ай бұрын
But why even bother? I haven't had a licence since 2008. I have NEVER communicated with them and never will.
@marklittler784 9 ай бұрын
Nothing in law that says you have to acknowledge your presence in a property surely
@colinreece3452 8 ай бұрын
I see there is another Barrister on now telling people the legalities of getting a TV licence, he even says about the BBC having detector vans. His name is Daniel Barnet.
@Interdiction 9 ай бұрын
Excellent advice . I have not listened to anything more black and white concerning the BBC license .
@kbeau9538 9 ай бұрын
First one is say no thankyou and shut the door!
@killpop8255 9 ай бұрын
Very good info
@Number6_ 8 ай бұрын
If you don't acknowledge there existence at the door, then there is no chance you will say anything or sign anything. They can't even claim contact with you. It is unlikely that the police will authorize braking in with a warrant if they can't see you in there as they may become responsible for damages.
@swoop1352 9 ай бұрын
I haven't looked at BBC iPlayer since Clarkson got sacked but I remember seeing YT vids mentioning iPlayer now requiring users to login and confirm they have a TV licence against the database. I really don't think a VPN is going to help in that situation and, since nothing else that anyone does on the internet is of any interest to TV licensing, not really seeing the relevance of the NordVPN advert. I may be wrong on that though as, as I say, I haven't seen iPlayer in years. However, I'm also dubious that TV licensing (private company) could legally request my internet history from my provider, or even find out who my provider is, or have a reason to in the first place as iPlayer already logs users. I suppose if someone was watching the live stream of GB News via youtube, they'd need a TV license but is someone really going to go through every single youtube link the history says someone has been to to check it's not a TV channel? I mean I know they're getting desperate but that's clutching at straws. Please clarify.
@whatsmining9917 8 ай бұрын
When you get a vpn use a uk location or some apps won't work also delete all your previous data in the apps or do factory reset setup with new accounts don't use your home address or postcode
@pcat1378 9 ай бұрын
Just completely ignore....don't answer if you open the door and just shut it (even better is don't answer the door). DO absolutely nothing is the simplest and best thing to do. People talk themselves into trouble because they think they are smart but aren't.
@cornishone1 7 ай бұрын
ITV have adverts-so why does BBC say you need a licence to watch ITV and other channels.
@rayro999 9 ай бұрын
If they turn up with a search warrant, before they gain entry, can you ask what evidence was used to get the warrant? Do they have to tell you? If they said 'i saw the TV on through the window' and you can prove it was impossible to see a TV through the window from the front door or garden can you challenge the validity of the warrant and refuse entry? This would mean the TV Licence goon lied to get the warrant - what happens then?
@becky2235 9 ай бұрын
Good question
@AnalogueInTheUK 9 ай бұрын
Yes. The warrant states the 'evidence' that was presented to the judge/magistrate by TVL. You are within your rights to demand to see this.
@noelward8047 9 ай бұрын
How many license fees are spent on the private company, employed by TVL, issuing useless letters ... and their attending 'Enforcers' ?
@simonhopkins3867 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video thanks. I personally feel the tv licence is outdated and enforcement is immoral.
@rogerphelps9939 9 ай бұрын
Wrong. What you happen to think is irrelevant.
@simonhopkins3867 9 ай бұрын
😂
@Dreamkeeeper 5 ай бұрын
My friend had one if those recording boxes maybe 8 year ago, hasnt got a licence now as he never watches any form of live tv , but was wondering if he can take it out of the loft and watch stuff he recorded 4 year before he stopped needing a licence .. and if not then he wouldnt bother…
@jayofman 9 ай бұрын
If it gets to court check any warrant very carefully as they are normally bulk processed at these business centres AKA magistrates and county courts. Lord Widgery in R v Brentford Justices ex parte Catlin [1975] QB 455 made it clear that a Justice of the Peace must apply his/her mind in determining whether a summons to the Magistrates' Court should be issued. This determination is a judicial process, not an administrative one, and to fail to apply one's mind would represent a dereliction of duty.
@SquidgeTastic 9 ай бұрын
The letters are so intimidating. I know one elderly person who was scared into getting one for 'listening to the wireless'. It's disgusting.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
Thats bad especially as you dont need a licence for radio - any radio!
@mda5003 9 ай бұрын
Yes, you used to need a licence for a radio but not for many years and the BBC treat elderly people with contempt.
@MikeEves 9 ай бұрын
The letters are hilarious. Gibberish written by halfwits
@nigelwcc4069 9 ай бұрын
If you get a notice of prosecution under the single justice procedure should it be in your name or can it be addressed to the occupier of the property and would you only get this before or after a warrant has been issued?
@djremi4901 8 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your priceless help and info @BlackBeltBarrister...One question for you or anyone else here...I used to watch live TV and paid my licence last year...I have now stopped watching live TV and i believe i don't have to pay this licence again. Does me telling them that i no longer watch live TV suffice and will they leave me alone for a few years? Or will this give them reason to get a warrant to check my house? Cheers.
@Glasgowjack515 6 ай бұрын
TalkTV, youtube clip, announce legal action to be taken against BBC for harassment. Would be very interesting to see your thoughts on this matter.
@redjacc7581 9 ай бұрын
if they have a warrant then they will also have the police with them.
@AnotherPointOfView944 9 ай бұрын
Maybe.
@LEE-ty8vq 9 ай бұрын
Wrong. It's a civil matter and all police can do is observe and listen. They can not by law assist in any type of civil matter. Also any warrant by law MUST be signed by wet ink by a judge and be presented to said person beforehand. If they fail to do this they are breaking the law and you should call 999. If the police try to assist knowing they have a illegal warrant, then you can also sue the local police force, including capita.
@BedsitBob 9 ай бұрын
*Television Licences* *Mr. Holloway* To ask the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport whether those who do not have a television set are required to inform Television Licensing that they do not require a TV licence. *Mr. Woodward* A television licence is required to install or use a television receiver, as defined in regulations made by the Secretary of State, rather than a television set. Members of the public who do not require a television licence are under no obligation to inform TV Licensing of the fact.
@mpol701 9 ай бұрын
U can have a tv where are people getting this u need a TV licence to have a tv, u don't it's watching live and bbc iPlayer on any device not owning the devices
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
Mr Woodwards reply is inaccurate (unless it dates from the 1940's!). You can fill your house with hundreds of TV's yet not need a licence.
@mpol701 9 ай бұрын
Exaclty I have 3 but really only one I use, but others are still connected to blu ray dvd etc, and TV licence know that, however as stated u don't have to be an official non licensed adress, just compliant with legislation, which can't really he checked fully, as tv license can't check your Internet usage, so your tv might be compliant but your Internet history might not
@thegrimsaxon790 9 ай бұрын
@@robtheplod by the legislation Mr Woodwards reply is accurate. The TV licence applies to a "television receiver". A "television receiver" in the legislation is defined as ANY device used or installed for the purpose of watching/recording live tv or using BBC iPlayer. Therefore you can rightly own as many TV sets as you want for any number of reasons without a license, but if you install or use one for the purpose of watching live broadcast TV or iPlayer it becomes a TV receiver and requires a licence.
@peterw4338 9 ай бұрын
A question for BBB. Tv Licencing letters with "Your are under investigation" in big red letters on the envelope, could that be considered as defamatory?
@50somethinglawyer 9 ай бұрын
There's no defamation by accusing someone of doing something wrong if the allegation is made only to the person accused.
@peterw4338 9 ай бұрын
@@50somethinglawyer But it's not. The postman sees it. Other members of the household see it. If it is a a block of flats with a communal hall, other residents will see it. If it is a house in multiple occupation, other lodgers will see it or even the landlord.
@50somethinglawyer 9 ай бұрын
@peterw4338 You're still going to struggle overcoming the hurdle of having suffered the serious harm required under s1 of the Defamation Act 2013 just because your postie or neighbours might have seen a letter being delivered Everything depends on the particular facts but receiving an accusation cannot of itself be defamatory.
@robtheplod 9 ай бұрын
Doubt it as its a Government backed organisation. Same as they are exempt from data protection 'right to be forgotten'...
@fredbloggs5902 9 ай бұрын
“I don’t answer questions” - Ray Shoesmith, Mr. Inbetween
@chrismills2012 5 ай бұрын
quite frankly, the TV licence should be scrapped, and the BBC should use a subscription. In the 21st-century, it stinks that they still use the tactics that they do, and legally can get away with it
@tonyday8687 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the sdvice
@killpop8255 9 ай бұрын
How is a notice of prosecution letter from TV licensing delivered? I recently had a letter that 'seemed' to take 14 days to be delivered.
@Farweasel 9 ай бұрын
Remember when Boris Johnson was desperate to be elected? He hinted and implied and infered & created a rock solid impression if we trusted him & voted for him - HE would end the licence fee Tells you ALL you need to know about the state of Britain's politics
@FamousEccles 3 ай бұрын
There is, of course, a more fundamental way to 'beat' a TV licence prosecution: either don't have a system (or apps) on which you can watch live TV; or just buy a TV licence!
@filougreendog 9 ай бұрын
a warrant? for what? when i was visited by an "inspector" i told him i did indeed have a television but i didnt watch it, i like to keep it for the many radio stations available. three or four years on, no further visits although i get regular kindling through the post about not having a licence😁
@oldfatbastad6053 9 ай бұрын
i do not need to make a legal declaration stating that i do not require motor vehicle insurance or road tax.
@mda5003 9 ай бұрын
Well actually you do. Assuming the vehicle is not on the road and the 'road tax' has expired you have to declare it SORN and failure to do so would mean an £80 fine. Insurance also has to be on-going unless the vehicle has been declared SORN.
@oldfatbastad6053 9 ай бұрын
@@mda5003 not if you dont have a car you dont.
@mda5003 9 ай бұрын
@@oldfatbastad6053 Well, that is true of course but then you could say that about anything you've never owned.
@MikeEves 9 ай бұрын
I've never paid road tax and I own 3 cars...
@mda5003 9 ай бұрын
@@MikeEves If they are not on the road then they can be declared SORN but if the cars are over 40 years old then they will be road tax (VED) exempt and I think there are some mobility schemes with exemption from VED. Are EVs still exempt?
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