how to build a FFB direct drive STEERING WHEEL from a HOVERBOARD

how to build a FFB direct drive STEERING WHEEL from a HOVERBOARD | step by step

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In this video, I'll show you how to build a direct drive force feedback steering wheel using a cheap hoverboard motor and a bunch of other inexpensive electronics. The price is between 100 and 200 euros and the results blow out of the water any other wheel available for even double that price. The direct drive motor offers high torque and detailed feedback with 15nm of peak torque and fast acceleration. The build is very easy and it's a perfect beginner project to start getting into sim racing without breaking the bank.
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@theoldgitwatgames4640 3 ай бұрын

Nice project, but I’d highly recommend adding an inline kill switch to anything delivering this level of torque, just to keep your hands safe from the wheel spinning when you crash or get shunted of track

@TheGamersRace 21 күн бұрын

It's open source, just make one. Or put a big red button to kill power to it.

@abatall 9 күн бұрын

its connected to a psu, could you just turn off the psu

@GuiMVII 4 күн бұрын

@@abatall of course you can turn off the psu while your arms are broke

@highwaltage Ай бұрын

been wanting to do this for years mate! thanks for the inspo! i have soo many hub motors laying around being a scooter tech. i need to use them for other things!

@renan007asdf 2 ай бұрын

awesome video, project, everything great.

@loganm2766 25 күн бұрын

Actually insane

@emiljanduka51 3 ай бұрын

been looking out for this project for 4 months just waiting for odrive and THANK YOU so much to propeler (creater of code ) for not making it paid BTW u dont need the other board u can just use odrive although it does look more neat

@DAZprojects 3 ай бұрын

It's one of the best open source project I've ever seen, also the community is small but very active

@The_Vanillax 2 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects Hi i have two questions, is the custom pcb necessary for the build? If yes where can i buy it?

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

@@The_Vanillax you don't need the custom PCB, it's just makes things neater, you can get one from PCBway

@The_Vanillax 2 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects oh ok thanks

@DanielMazzolaByMazzo 3 ай бұрын

Good job 👍🏼💪🏼

@jmollick1 2 ай бұрын

impressive!

@aandryyy13 2 ай бұрын

Awesome! keep up with the contents! The quality is amazing! I'll try a similar project this summer, starting to look for cheap/thrifted hoverboards. :)

@SoyDavidYT 3 ай бұрын

Nice proyect

@Zombiefruit 13 сағат бұрын

Do you maybe have the board design? I don't see it on the guide site. Thanks so much for the video btw, this is what makes the community amazing

@Propeler3D Ай бұрын

Awesome video! I newer have time to finish my video but now I know good one to recommend!

@megustapescar1 2 ай бұрын

Esta expectacular , los taladros antiguos con direccion en amvos sentidos , funcionan ?

@buddhichampika5823 2 ай бұрын

This is awesome, FFBeast only for the steering right? And your pedals and shifters are they running separately through EMC?

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

That's correct

@fa-ajn9881 Ай бұрын

I'm interested in FFBeasts' flight sim stick and pedals!

@HorizonMakes 22 күн бұрын

How did you run the wires from the wheel buttons and shifters? Is there a slip ring or something in the middle?

@fudruckers3916 Ай бұрын

I wish you’d put a bit more detail into this. How do I route the cables out of the shaft? I can’t get them to budge at all

@mr.simple5586 17 күн бұрын

@fudruckers3916 17 күн бұрын

For anyone who sees this I just cut the wires and desoldered them from the windings, and resolderded after prepping the shaft.

@leonardoaugusto5491 Ай бұрын

I guess you would need some tube for passing the encoder shaft through it, preventing any wear to the phase wires due to its rotation inside motors main shaft

@TheGamersRace 21 күн бұрын

Its pretty smooth as it is, but you could just use some soft shrink on it if you wanted. You could put it around the wires, around the spoke, or both.

@cubo9620 3 ай бұрын

Did you prefer the FFBeast Software, or the Arduino EMC software more? I'm thinking of using the same assembly and parts from FFBeast, but using an Arduino to communicate, if thats even possible.

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

I preferred the FFBeast, not even comparable

@fitchyyboi Ай бұрын

What screw size did you use to mount the SK16s?

@smothdude 10 күн бұрын

Hardest part of this right now seems to be getting the motor, and then waiting for shipment of things from China. I am excited to try this out though when I can

@AlexYeryomin Ай бұрын

Why do you use the spoke to feed into the angular encoder if you could use 3 hall sensors already installed on this motor?

@algodude8713 Ай бұрын

I believe the hall sensors in the motor do not have sufficient precision to make a good-performing wheel

@AlexYeryomin Ай бұрын

@@algodude8713Hall sensors give the motor controller quite precise position of the rotor. A typical hoverboard motor has 15 pairs of magnets, and with proper processing it is 5400 position per rotation, if I am not mistaken. It is far better than this sensor, which has a resolution around 1 degree (and it has 4 hall sensors inside anyway, but "senses" only 1 magnet at the shaft). I guess, the main reason is that this sensor reads the absolute angular position by itself. This drastically simplifies the code, of course.

@conceptautohouse141 Ай бұрын

Can you use the on board AS5407P encoder on the Maker XDrive Mini. Very nice video and assembly.

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

I think so but I'm not sure

@puntloosPD 19 күн бұрын

Big brain

@fallensmoke8368 3 ай бұрын

@DAZprojects could i also use the same parts from your last ffb steering wheel to create this one as the only difference would be the brushless motor and the controller or could i somehow edit the hex file to turn down the rpm to use the raw output from the shaft of the motor as it alos has a pretty good 11nm output?

@DAZprojects 3 ай бұрын

Just make this one in the first place

@fallensmoke8368 3 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects i already have the parts for the old one

@Factsfun-kg4xc 2 ай бұрын

awesome video. do you by any chance have specs on the magnet and the bearing

@vbence12 2 ай бұрын

From looking at the step file the bearing is a 19mm OD, 10mm ID. So it should be a 6800 variant. For the magnet it should be around 6x2,5mm but if I'm not wrong it should be included with the encoder.

@Factsfun-kg4xc 2 ай бұрын

@@vbence12 Awesome thank you very much!

@weichen4686 5 сағат бұрын

Hi i have a question what is the bike spoke used for and the magent at the end of it? does it tell the encoder what position the wheel is at?

@christopherjayvaldes2243 Ай бұрын

can you help me choose a power supply? is using 24volt 10amp 500watt enough? or do i need a higher wattage? and isn't the hoverboard motor 36 volts? i also found a 36volts 28amp 1000watt power supply. i hope you can help me on choosing the right power supply. thank you in advance

@user-xc7sp2hg8k 18 күн бұрын

you need 24 volts and 10-15a

@carlosestrada8204 2 ай бұрын

Hello, great job, in the country where I live I can't get that driver (x drive). Would it work with an Arduino Leonardo and a BT_2 board?

@justsomeguywholikespiano 2 ай бұрын

same question here, do you have any answer yet ?

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

Wouldn't work, this is a brushless motor

@lorenzotrevisan4031 24 күн бұрын

Did you find this motor better than the old project you did? BTW keep it up with your projects, i really like your videos

@DAZprojects 24 күн бұрын

Way way better

@lorenzotrevisan4031 24 күн бұрын

@@DAZprojects Amazing, i think i'm gonna do it with the same hoverboard that i found nearby!! Thanks for the ispiration

@fallensmoke8368 3 ай бұрын

hi is there any way i could contact you personally i need some help with the steering wheel plans if you could please

@indaryus8778 7 күн бұрын

Could you tell me where to get the custom pcb cause this project is cool af and want to try to build it for myself

@DAZprojects 7 күн бұрын

Pcbway

@indaryus8778 7 күн бұрын

@@DAZprojects also does this wheel work with the DIY pedals you made?

@hardnachopuppy 7 күн бұрын

Is it possible to use the hall sensors as the encoder

@cdr96mb 2 ай бұрын

Hello, having trouble drilling through the axle. I’ve gone through 3 metal type bits. Any advice from your experience? Thanks!

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

I used a standard metal bit and the axle steel seemed very very soft, drilling through it with no problem

@cdr96mb 2 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects Thanks! I ended up needing to use some oil and apply more pressure to the drill, while going at a slower speed.

@GG-si7fw Ай бұрын

Hmm, I was wondering if you can take a beginner sim wheel and upgrade the motor like the logitech G29/923 and use the logitech housing for a sleeper look

@DAZprojects Ай бұрын

Why?????

@GG-si7fw Ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects In the US, there was a culture of drag racing building sleeper cars. Sleeper cars were normal looking cars but built up to go fast. I've seen it in gaming computer builds with cases from the 90's to 2000's but haven't seen it in sim racing and thought wow, that can actually happen now after seeing your video. Of course, whoever does it will have to showcase it on Twitch and KZfaq or otherwise noone will know.

@Dispnser 8 күн бұрын

with some 3d printing, yeah!

@justsomeguywholikespiano 2 ай бұрын

is there any controller board thats cheaper than the xdrive mini ? any clones? i dont know how to search it up

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

That's already a clone of an odrive model

@justsomeguywholikespiano 2 ай бұрын

oh i see, thank you so much

@fallensmoke8368 3 ай бұрын

is there any alternate motor driver we could use as the neither the MKS xdrive mini nor the MKS xdrive-s are available in India

@DAZprojects 3 ай бұрын

There's a list of compatible controllers on the FFBeast website

@fallensmoke8368 3 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects thanks

@matiasmontalvan8621 26 күн бұрын

Hi! Excellent work. Congratulations. I need help. I've constructed one but when I'm calibrating the wheel and I go over 450 grades the wheel becomes crazy. Why? And, the motor gets very very hot. Some idea why that's happen?

@saurajrathod7044 23 күн бұрын

Hi i have not made this yet but i assume that the overheating problem is expected i read somewhere but you can make a cooling system unless if the temperature is super high then please let me know and make sure to check over your soldering as tat is a core reason for many overheating issues.

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

If I remember correctly that also happened to me, but I don't remember how I fixed it, if I remember that I'll let you know

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

Also my motor gets hot, I've now drilled a bunch of big holes in the spindle side, and I've added two blower fans that blow directly on the stator, it is pretty loud, but gets read of all the heat allowing me to use it for hours at 100% power

@orlandosimoes1892 Ай бұрын

Can i do drift with this?

@aquifelouk 11 күн бұрын

Are the 10 amps of the PSU enough to get the 15nm or 12-15 amps would be better ?

@podwor 11 күн бұрын

same question here..

@smpltv6481 4 күн бұрын

In Discord of FFbeast, they recommend 20Amps PSU because of 15Amps recommended current

@aquifelouk 2 күн бұрын

@@smpltv6481 Thanks ! I got answers to many of my questions on this server.

@lachlanellis7024 Ай бұрын

hey man just wondering can i use the hub motor off my e scooter instead of the hoverboard just let me know thanks

@TheGamersRace 21 күн бұрын

I would assume you can use any DC motor, so long as you can properly mount it and connect it to an encoder.

@lachlanellis7024 19 күн бұрын

@@TheGamersRace thanks

@user-vw6qg6fe6w 2 ай бұрын

I can use the encoder that is soldered on the driver board?

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure but I think so, you will need to modify the mount to house the entire board

@Artem_Sh Ай бұрын

Рома! Это твой ведь проект? Поздравляю! Ещё раз спасибо! Пользуюсь 💥

@Raimundoraimundo1992 Ай бұрын

me fala como liga esses botoes extras

@ismailatilla_ 2 ай бұрын

Does this wheel work in carx or froza

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

I think so, but I used it only in AC

@saurajrathod7044 23 күн бұрын

anyone have any idea where that white adapter thing with a magnet inside and a screw came from? for the encoder i assume but not sure. Is it 3d printed?

@DAZprojects 22 күн бұрын

It's 3d printed

@marceloprestes8689 Ай бұрын

Do you have the parts file printed on the 3D printer?

@DAZprojects Ай бұрын

They're printed from PCBway

@quocthaiang9629 Ай бұрын

how did you put the steering wheel into the base tho

@Dispnser 8 күн бұрын

with his 3D-printed mount

@alejandroriquelme6799 13 күн бұрын

Where do I find the layout of the PCB board?

@DAZprojects 13 күн бұрын

On the FFbeast website

@motitoti5096 2 ай бұрын

How are your pedals connected?

@Dispnser 8 күн бұрын

he made a video bout it

@user-xc7sp2hg8k 18 күн бұрын

bro, what magnets in your motor wheel?

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

I don't know, standard form hoverboard

@user-xc7sp2hg8k 11 күн бұрын

@@DAZprojects bad(

@cdr96mb Ай бұрын

Are you able to share your FFBeast UI Settings?

@g10by Ай бұрын

Which games are compatible with this? Is it EA WRC2 one of them?

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

All of them probably

@VenonBs2 Ай бұрын

Hello friend, how are you?, I had a problem a while ago with my computer and I ended up being banned on discord! Would it be possible to remove it so I can return to discord please?

@racewithharsh8542 3 күн бұрын

Please explain connections because all the other videos about this wheels are not in english

@Team_CryKidd 3 ай бұрын

Can you give me the link to the parts?

@user-ny2lq7fc3y 13 күн бұрын

Have you created a LUT file?

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

@akagelners8706 2 ай бұрын

what is the steering angle? Only 180?

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

You can set it to whatever you want

@saw_weet 2 ай бұрын

How many nn?

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

Probably around 15

@harman22595 3 ай бұрын

Ok just tell me what that brake resistors for

@DAZprojects 3 ай бұрын

It's to dump the back current of the motor to heat so that it doesn't go back in the PSU and trigger the over current/ over voltage protection. This happens when you turn the motor and it resists your movement

@harman22595 2 ай бұрын

Thank you ❤

@fitchyyboi Ай бұрын

@@DAZprojectsCan/should I upgrade my brake resistor? I hear they get very hot and I worry that maybe it'll die someday and boom there goes my power supply and house lol

@reveck3497 Ай бұрын

having cable coming out of wheel is big nono

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

I know, I will probably make a wireless wheel in the future, maybe with a screen

@crykiddalt 2 ай бұрын

What pcb is that?

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

A custom one made with PCBway

@crykiddalt 2 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects how much did it cost?

@crykiddalt 2 ай бұрын

Cause I need a pcb and I don't know which one to buy for the project

@DAZprojects 2 ай бұрын

@@crykiddalt you mean the motor controller?

@crykiddalt 2 ай бұрын

@@DAZprojects no you said which controller you need but what pcb do I get?

@tyronemcleod3099 12 күн бұрын

is this compatible with PS5

@DAZprojects 11 күн бұрын

Don't think so

@alejandroriquelme6799 15 күн бұрын

Hello, could you give me the link of each thing you use please? If not, leave me an email and you can send it to me there.

@leovonvi Ай бұрын

🇮🇹🇮🇹

@3fDmRNUxo0xxY4g 10 күн бұрын

Was anyone able to find a 10x19x4 bearing under $20 💀

@DAZprojects 10 күн бұрын

I bought it on AliExpress, was like 4€

@3fDmRNUxo0xxY4g 10 күн бұрын

@@DAZprojects Do you have link? Also according to the reference they put a bearing on the back of the case itself. Did you do that?

@brianfrank4156 3 ай бұрын

Not opensource.

@Veezy751 23 күн бұрын

Yes it is just take an actual look at the link

@TheGamersRace 21 күн бұрын

It literally is though

@bleuebloom 13 күн бұрын

and i paid $900 usd for my 9nm wheel 🗿

@Dispnser 8 күн бұрын

and i paid 67 usd following the ffbeast guide

@werby453 17 күн бұрын

doable with no electrical knowledge?

@DAZprojects 14 күн бұрын

Yes

@igor7600 10 күн бұрын

Ah yes, another "how to" project super achievable for anybody at any home 😊

@Neunzehnsechs Күн бұрын

Good for people with no money or 3rd world country's. Other than that I just buy a good base from a well known company

@DAZprojects Күн бұрын

There's a sense of accomplishment when driving something high quality that you built, if you say so you probably never felt it 👍

@Neunzehnsechs 19 сағат бұрын

@@DAZprojects true. Because I have the Ressources to not rely on diy. There is a feeling of accomplishment when you make enough money that you can fulfill your wishes. So think twice