How to Build an Enclosure for the P1P from Bambu Lab

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How to Build an Enclosure for the P1P from Bambu Lab

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Craftknights

Күн бұрын

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@Noxoreos Жыл бұрын

Guessed wrong :). Bambu Lab now sells an enclosure for the P1P anlong with additional stuff, converting it to the P1S.

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Yes, I heard. Gotta give it to them, they suprised me. And the price for the upgrade is quite resonable too.

@djj5088 7 ай бұрын

Yeah good luck trying to get it lol

@Noxoreos 7 ай бұрын

@@djj5088 i already ordered and received all the parts by now. I ordered them separately, because i already got the glass panels and fans for the x1c before the p1s was released.

@NickelCityPixels Ай бұрын

@@Craftknights3DWhat? It's $200... on sale!

@jimbruce4348 Жыл бұрын

Nice to find out I was not the only one to have EXACTLY the same issues.

@workingTchr Жыл бұрын

I think Bambu printers kind of need that extra headspace given how the filament feeds into the top of the extruder. Unless you are really concerned with aesthetics, and have a P1P to start with, I would just as soon add a 4-5 cm space on the top and build the enclosure around that. It would save you from having to mess with the filament tube as well.

@Noxoreos Жыл бұрын

They really do. When we got the X1C at work with the AMS, I tried PLA-CF with it and it immediately got stuck right where it feeds into the extruder. That happened multiple times, basically making it impossible to print that material at all. I had to change the PTFE tube and add some slack there, just to make sure it does not bend that much. If the lid was raised a little higher, there wouldn't be any issues. Although the AMS also adds some drag to the filament path.

@workingTchr Жыл бұрын

@@Noxoreos Wow. In the back of my mind I thought that Bambu had some slick (no pun intended) way of keeping the print head that close to the top without affecting performance on the X1. So it was an aesthetics decision at the expense of performance after all.

@Noxoreos Жыл бұрын

@@workingTchr That could very well be true, as it is not that much of a problem for typical plastics that are not too stiff. Maybe they didn't notice that problem before or by the time they did changing the construction would be too expensive. On the other hand they may have had some limitations with the assembly line. The printer is fully surrounded by a sheet metal frame and nothing sticks out except the base and the frame housing and glass cover. Changing the assembly line after it's set up would be extremely expensive. And finally I think that they kew people would release their own fixes for such problems, which did happen. Specifically with two changes: A tube guide and glass lid risers.

@workingTchr Жыл бұрын

@@Noxoreos I'm making a "riser" for my P1P as part of the enclosure, and it just occurred to me that it doesn't have to be the same height from the front to back since the tube flattens out on its own as the print head moves towards the front. So a sloped riser that had maximum height at the back and, probably, zero height at the front would be optimal. That would look the best too, IMHO. Actually, it might look kind of cool!

@Noxoreos Жыл бұрын

@@workingTchr Yes that should work if you don't plan on puttin anything on top, like the AMS

@davekim8472 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative and honest video showing all of the practical challenges with PTFE tube, chain problems, and other fitment details. Really helpful! I just received my BL P1P and am thinking about enclosing too. I've only printed PLA and am mulling over a Minimalist enclosure. Interested in your thoughts in general about enclosure benefits vs. drawbacks for PLA. Main enclosure benefit seems cosmetic and also to eliminate dust build up on print bed to to reduce delamination risk. Perhaps there are other benefits? Maybe reduce the noise a little and better printing accuracy when bolted panels stiffen the steel frame? BL recommends MC fan and a lot of people also add the accessory fan so I'm not convinced an acrylic enclosure would actually be quieter but would like to hear your thoughts. I really don't know whether a stiffer frame translates into any meaningful improvement in print quality and would like to hear about your experiences. The price of all these mods adds up - acrylic panels that I cut to shape + BL glass door + BL hinge kit + BL control board fan + BL accessory fan + BL chain guide kit + filament + fasteners. Easily $200 CAD. Fun and cosmetically satisfying but would like to learn about consequences - e.g. requirement to leave the door open printing PLA and also endure even more fan noise? Or challenges making the chain guide more robust or premature wear on PTFE tube due to friction against the long oval opening through the steel frame.=

@zacharyleach452 6 ай бұрын

im not smart enough to tell you an answer, Im just here for the ride because you propose great questions that line up with my plans for my p1p, so if anyone else figured this out or has some answers that would be great. i wanted to print an enclosure but might end up caving and spending the $155 USD on the BL brand p1p enclosure that comes with everything ready to install

@woodwaker1 Жыл бұрын

Good video, glad to see another P1P enclosure. I just finished the ARC enclosure by Thrutheframe, and used the kit from the US supplier. I printed all of the parts in ABS on my X1 Carbon, so they should handle the heat better. For me it is worth the small exrta cost to not have to source everything - especially the panels

@BennyTygohome Жыл бұрын

This is great upgrade, i may consider using polycarbonate. And add a fan to keep main circuit board from overheating now that it's enclosed. And adding an exhaust fan with hepa filter. This looks awesome!

@jakemason3310 10 ай бұрын

Did you get round to this, looking at doing this myself

@BennyTygohome Жыл бұрын

That is awesome upgrade and looks killer too. 👍

@MrYZ200 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the video!

@erebostd Жыл бұрын

Schick, danke fürs zeigen! Ich glaube, ich lass das erst mal mit dem Gehäuse, ich drucke ich kein ABS. Aber schön zu sehen, dass man die Möglichkeit hat, das Ding relativ einfach zu erweitern.😁👍

@byZyP 21 күн бұрын

Hab mit meinem P1P ohne Gehäuse ABS gedruckt, Druck war perfekt.

@timdean5743 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. This looks like a great solution to get some ABS printing on the P1P. Out of curiosity. Did you have to do any hot end upgrades or anything like that? Or is that only to print with PC’s and nylons etc? TIA 👍

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

You don't need to Upgrade the hot end for ABS. I don't know about nylon however.

@Vasiliki00lias Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D I think the official guidance is that for nylon and carbon it needs a hardened one

@jonnysimps 7 ай бұрын

Do you put the motherboard fan ??

@theodoretwombly3658 9 ай бұрын

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@Craftknights3D 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tipp! I will try that.

@SlowRkers 4 ай бұрын

I've bought something similar, though from what mine showed we need to print it using ABS due to heat resistance properties. thus far using PLA is there any issues?

@ypeelsleepy Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the Video. I am very happy you like my Riser :D i like the orange. might have to reprint mine :D

@egonm9999 11 ай бұрын

Hi. Thanks for this tutorial. Did you change out the toolhead cable and ptfe tube or used the ones taht came with the P1p?

@Craftknights3D 11 ай бұрын

I used the ones that came with the P1P

@TiaDzn Жыл бұрын

Hey, great video! I have some questions: 1. Did you print the parts vertically? 2. Did you order the official chain from Bambu Labs? They say not to use it on the P2P, I don't know what to think... 3. Did you use a soldering iron to add the heated inserts? If yes, which temps did you use? Thanks in advance!

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Bambus Changes the description in the product page after I released the video. I printed the adapter for the chain and used some cable Chain from amazon. It works fine for me. I used a soldering Iron at around 190 c.

@gurarkin331 Жыл бұрын

Looks really nice!! Does this enclosure help with noise canceling?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Nope. Not at all.

@bertsteenbergen6729 Жыл бұрын

Many thanks for sharing this video, what thickness of acrylic panels did you use? It looks a bit more sturdy than 3mm.

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

It's 3 mm thick acrylic.

@bertsteenbergen6729 Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D Thanks!!

@martyn5416 Жыл бұрын

Does this enclosure reduce the noise much?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Not at all

@diederik6975 8 ай бұрын

Does this help with noise?

@wekkimeif7720 10 ай бұрын

Seems easier to just buy the Bambu labs official enclosure kit now that it is available for P1P. It comes with filter and exhaust fans and all. You want filter for printing ABS unless you want to risk your health

@Craftknights3D 10 ай бұрын

Yes, its what I also said in my review of the P1S Upgrade Kit.

@mycinemax2653 Жыл бұрын

@8:15 the top of the shark fin overheated, is there a way to fix that i wonder.

@michaelstraughn3465 Ай бұрын

So you need a laser cutter, 3d printer, 3d resin printer, to upgrade your P1P?

@Craftknights3D Ай бұрын

There are kits that you can buy and you can always outsource the laser cutting.

@everettcass7904 Жыл бұрын

8:30 "I don't think they will ever sell an enclosure" BambuLab: Releasing the P1S oooooo aaaaaah Random Dude: 'aint that just the p1p with walls...'

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

I just published my P1S review where I upgrade the P1P to a P1S.

@krain.8245 Жыл бұрын

I'm planing to make this enclosure for abs. But I have an enclosed room (my dorm) and I've seen no flitering system here. If I am to plan to use this setup indoor, should I also add a fan and abs fliter as well? or is there other solutions?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

There is no Filtration on the P1P. So always print in well ventilated areas or, If you can, add a filter to the enclosure.

@samjames5289 Жыл бұрын

can you use the AMS multi add on after you have enclosed the p1p?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Sure. You just have to place the AMS to the side as it doesn't fit on top of the printer anymore.

@redmemoryy Жыл бұрын

If i use PLA do i need to do all this?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

You don't need an enclosure for pla, petg, and tpu.

@redmemoryy Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D thank you

@samh-smith2931 8 күн бұрын

Probably better off just getting the p1s? Has anyone experience

@Craftknights3D 7 күн бұрын

The p1s wasn't out when I made the video. I recommend getting the upgrade kit or straight out buying the p1s

@PixelForgeLab 6 күн бұрын

@@Craftknights3D Really ? you think is not worth it doing the Vision Enclosure ?

@Craftknights3D 6 күн бұрын

Depends. The Vision enclosure ist cheaper and works Just fine. The p1s upgrade ist higher quality but also more expensive.

@PixelForgeLab 6 күн бұрын

@@Craftknights3D that's ok then, as long as it works the same and it's cheapr ;) thank you

@samh-smith2931 6 күн бұрын

@@Craftknights3D Macht sinn! Danke 🙏

@buicky02 Жыл бұрын

Does it help with the noise?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

No, not at all.

@kronkie131 Жыл бұрын

thats pretty cool but does it have a way to regulate the temperature (sorry i skipped a bit through out the video)

@thorgraum1462 Жыл бұрын

sorry to say, but if your ABS pars fail so youve gotta use resin, the entire purpouse of printing ABS is gone and you have got to slow down the print speed to maintain layer adhesion

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Only that particular part kept failing. The other parts I printed work just fine, including the voron parts I printed in the video.

@daveb77 Жыл бұрын

I'm going blind it seems as I can't see where the measurements for the panels are located? Are they in the dfx files

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Yes. They are in the dfx Files. Make sure to import them properly or the scaling could be off.

@Illrunyou Жыл бұрын

How does this do with the fumes from ABS?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Not much. There is no filter in the P1P so you should only print ABS in a well ventilated area.

@ProMSL Жыл бұрын

I'm curious how is the cable inside the cable chain holding up? In my experience, with an i3 design, cable chains used to wear through on hot spots of the cables inside the chain.

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

Mine ist holding up so far. But this could be an issue in the future.

@adriankoniarz5759 Жыл бұрын

How much does it cut down the sound? Not sure if you have any experience with ender 3s, how does the sound compare to those? Thanks in advance!

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

It does't help with the noise at all. The P1P is louder than the Ender 3 s1.

@rmazza Жыл бұрын

Hi, Welche Energie Kette ist das? Link….? Danke

@metarts Жыл бұрын

Das warping liegt nur daran das man kein Gehäuse hat ? Oder was muss man noch bei den Einstellungen beachten ? Ich habe gestern versucht mit abs das Gehäuse zu drucken aber das warpt so extrem das ist echt nicht normal ! Heute habe ich angefangen das ganze einfach in petg zu drucken .. hast du ein paar Tipps ?

@shakics8896 Жыл бұрын

Hauptsächlich Temperaturschwankungen und Schwankungen in der Luftfeuchtigkeit. Am besten vorher auch nochmal das Filament trocknen. Falls du keinen Filament Trockner hast, dann gibts die Ghetto Methode: Kartonschachtel in den Maßen drucken damit eine Filament spule hinein passt. Filament Spule auf das Heizbett vom Printer legen und auf etwa 70 Grad einstellen, den Karton drauflegen und paar Stunden trocknen lassen. -Ohne Gehäuse sind meist nur kleine Drucke möglich.

@nmfireman Жыл бұрын

I can find the cable chain but not the PTFE guide. Where can I buy it

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

I think you still have to print that Part. I thought it was part of the cable chain package but it isn't.

@RBgamesbr Жыл бұрын

Is there any particular reason for using ABS instead of ASA, my crude understanding was that ASA was ABS but easier and better...

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

ASA is UV resistant and water-resistant. ASA also has a higher temperature resistance than ABS. They are about equally hard to print, in my experience. ABS is generally cheaper, though.

@RBgamesbr Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D Oh ok, in my region the pricing is so close that I went for ASA, thanks for the response, just be careful about styrene fumes and keep up the good content :)

@seppeqespecho4260 Жыл бұрын

Danke für das Video. Konnte damit auch die Lautstärke des P1P gesenkt werden?

@kubicats7150 Жыл бұрын

in anderen Videos hab ich gesehen, dass die Lautstärke um ca. 10db gesenkt wurde

@seppeqespecho4260 Жыл бұрын

@@kubicats7150 Danke, habs mitlerweile schon selbst gedruckt und angebaut. Gleich mal im kompletten Encloser PLA gedruckt und nen Extruder Clog erzeugt. Bei PLA immer Top Lid abnehmen, sonst kann der gesamte Extruder zu warm werden.

@hassosigbjoernson5738 Жыл бұрын

@@seppeqespecho4260 Das ist richtig und wird auch in vielen Videos (z.B. von MPox) erwähnt. Für PLA reicht die Bauteil-Kühlung nicht von daher Deckel abnehmen und Tür auflassen. Da ein laute Lüfter hinten verbaut ist, sollte es nur semi etwas bringen.

@beefjeff3581 Жыл бұрын

didn't you had problems with the mc-board? I heard that its recommended to install a fan for the mc-board.

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

I didn´t have any issues jet. The board is on the back side of the P1P so it should not be affected by the temperature of the heated chamber as far as I know. But I could be wrong.

@beefjeff3581 Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D yes but if you enclose it and print 120C build plate ABS as example the whole interieur heats up and the mc-board too.. thats what I'm scared of

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

@@beefjeff3581OK. I will do some testing and measure the temperature of the Mainboard to make sure that it doesn't overhead. I will let you know what I find out.

@beefjeff3581 Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D Thats great thanks!

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

@@beefjeff3581 So, I am printing for almost a month now with abs. The longest print was 12 hours. And I had no issued so far.

@leonardojoy Жыл бұрын

hi, you have the dimensions of the acrilic panels?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

There are vector files for laser cutting that come with the projekt.

@leonardojoy Жыл бұрын

@@Craftknights3D thanks

@NavdeepSingh-bt2cc Жыл бұрын

What chain do you use, from x1?

@Craftknights3D Жыл бұрын

I used a simple drag chain from Amazon. The other parts are printed. Links are in the description.

@kj8491 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be cheaper and easier just to buy whole acrilic “box” and put over printer? 🤔

@Craftknights3D 11 ай бұрын

The cheapest way is simply putting a Cardboard box over it.

@kj8491 11 ай бұрын

@@Craftknights3D nope, cardboard can’t keep temps

@fbombtehgr3at 10 ай бұрын

I printed this enclosure using ASA. During the project, I placed the cardboard box that the my P1P came in over the printer. With this setup, I achieved temperatures between 50 and 60 C easily.