How to Choose a Putter // Blade VS Mallet // Fitting

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4 жыл бұрын

We use Quintic Ball Roll Analysis to measure the launch, spin, face angle, rotation and more from a blade-style and a mallet-style putter.
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@jessehughes3877
@jessehughes3877 3 жыл бұрын
These guys deserve a PhD in golf for sure. Every topic they dive into is explained in great depth with data to back it up. Great channel!
@iiZAPPx
@iiZAPPx 4 жыл бұрын
This has been the best channel for Golf period.
@ryry_7775
@ryry_7775 3 жыл бұрын
Cap jk
@racht449
@racht449 4 жыл бұрын
Putter fittings can be incredibly eye opening. I was fortunate to be with with Duane at the kingdom and i walked in with a flow neck blade with a lot of toe hang and 4 degrees of loft and walked out with a face balanced spider x flattened 1.5 degrees and 1.5 degrees of loft on the putter which is about as far as i could get from what i walked in with.
@livingadreamlife1428
@livingadreamlife1428 Жыл бұрын
Did you’re putting improve?
@ryang1910
@ryang1910 4 жыл бұрын
Ian, I am a huge fan. I am hoping you would go far more into, how to choose a putter head for different putters. Didn’t feel it was as clear as I was hoping
@BShawPresents
@BShawPresents 4 жыл бұрын
This might have been my favorite series so far. Really appreciate the work you guys do. Thanks!
@davemarshall2756
@davemarshall2756 4 жыл бұрын
Had a putter fitting with John in the fall. Surprised results and great fitting. I would recommend getting fit for everything in the bag including ball. TXG may have to start fittings for golfers wives.
@paulkoppenheffer5323
@paulkoppenheffer5323 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the putting and wedge videos with Gareth. Great stuff, not enough short game videos, so really appreciate TXG putting out this content. Did some mirror work with my putter and found my eyes were a little too inside the ball and my ball position a little too far forward. Made the adjustments and was getting a much truer roll and better dispersion front to back. Better results with my mallet putter than my blade so it looks the the mallet is going back in the bag this year. Going to work on my wedge game areound the green next weekend weather permitting. Thanks again.
@michaelkovac3297
@michaelkovac3297 3 жыл бұрын
Really well explained. I’ve been planning a new purchase for months and debating what kind of fitting experience I want - quintec as you have demonstrated is the way 💯
@peterbugay8073
@peterbugay8073 4 жыл бұрын
I just did a putter fitting a month ago and was surprised what style of putter i should be using. I love that i can look for a new putter and disregard a ton of ones that are not suited for me.
@LouKeppler
@LouKeppler 3 жыл бұрын
@10:20 Absolutely 100% correct! I use a blade putter and must hit up on putts, head back, looking down the line with strong shaft lean. "See It and Sink It" by Farnsworth was an influential book for me.
@jbspullins1725
@jbspullins1725 4 жыл бұрын
Timely review. I really struggle to with my putting and have tried multiple styles , brands and just cant seem to find one I am confident in. I am gaming the stroke lab double wide as it seems to be the best of the worst for me. Time to find a place for a proper fitting.
@JamesThompson-zl2sk
@JamesThompson-zl2sk 4 жыл бұрын
Great series of videos Subscribers still climbing well deserved
@thenotorious9032
@thenotorious9032 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I’ve been debating a putter fitting, I think this sold me.
@ajaytuk7416
@ajaytuk7416 4 жыл бұрын
when I have problems with short putting I tend to move to a blade, but overall my feeling is that I do best with the putter which gives me the best pace control, certainly confidence wise. I use a Oddessy white hot 2 that looks like the one Luke Donald and Ian Poulter use- its awesome
@seandalton6043
@seandalton6043 4 жыл бұрын
Putter fitting is a 100% must. I had my Scotty Cameron Newport 2 fitted by Ross Jackson @ The Golf Performance Institute and my distance control massively improved and also my aim too. Shortened the shaft and loaded the putter with weights for more control and feel to suit my feel.
@WillHawkes.538
@WillHawkes.538 4 жыл бұрын
It''s been an enjoyable and interesting series. Hats off, gents.
@soccerdude33846
@soccerdude33846 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. As a new golfer, these videos have really helped me. Thanks!
@gmuzz
@gmuzz 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Need to fix my putting stroke before I go for a fit!
@aaronconsaul6645
@aaronconsaul6645 4 жыл бұрын
Great week of video's... there should be an entire family of videos on these subject's, added with before and after with the iron/wedge/driver & putter fittings. Seeing other ppl fit and getting before and after on course results. Just an idea
@niggy730
@niggy730 3 жыл бұрын
So much information, man I think I have to go get a putter fitting! Great video as always
@legend9018
@legend9018 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Mizuno’s new offering of M Craft putters. Very simple, 3 models for 3 swing arcs in 3 finishes. Obviously a putter has to suit your eye but your stroke does not lie.
@bodebridges947
@bodebridges947 4 жыл бұрын
These kind of videos are interesting and informative. One thing that has not been discussed is the importance of the shaft. I've been putting with the same Scottsdale Anser (5 step shaft) since 1966. For me putting is about getting the ball on the line and speed I want with both hands around my throat. :)
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
I like blades being smaller in the bag and able to use the back to flick the ball up to save bending down if its a "gimme". I spent an hour trying lots of putters and the TM spider arc holed the most balls. Not a fitting, just trial and error. Shaft length and grip play a part too. I think you can adapt to the putter with practice if you love it enough..
@Ubafunksta
@Ubafunksta 3 жыл бұрын
How have these guys not got a million+ subscribers? Great channel
@frankyang7958
@frankyang7958 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and I like the new approach to looking at blade vs mallet. I have a mid mallet... does that mean I’m undecided 🤣😂🤣
@SePhO11
@SePhO11 2 жыл бұрын
Ive always used a blade, specifically an Odyssey #1, it broke early this year and went to get a new one, tried the Odyssey O-works and didnt like it, felt a different weight, so got fitted, ended up with a TaylorMade Spider Tour and have been holing so many more putts.
@jimbothompson7747
@jimbothompson7747 4 жыл бұрын
I have that phantom x 12.5. I love it
@Tomdabomb86
@Tomdabomb86 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video lads, great work. Like to think I understood half of it
@paulmoscicki2038
@paulmoscicki2038 4 жыл бұрын
Over this last weekend I went for a putter fitting and they used a SAM machine to capture data. My old putter is an Odyssey Dual Force 990 toe hang (with a TXG cover). It read that I was outside in on all of my putts and had a launch of about 5 degrees, not optimal. They suggested I give up golf, no, actually they suggested a face balanced putter but did not give me much more help. Any suggestions please? Thank you again for all of these videos with Gareth, it is very welcomed to hear how the best trainers and golfers think.
@claytonjoseph9408
@claytonjoseph9408 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, the data from one putt blows my mind. How far does a good putt stay in the air at impact before starting to roll?
@CDMac24BB
@CDMac24BB 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just hoping that some of my "off the rack" buys from this season are still playable and I don't have to swap out ALL the gear in my bag. Already swapped driver and 3W and will be getting fit for irons/wedges next. Does TXG offer counseling services to help with breaking the news to wives that we need to buy new clubs (again)?? I liked the way the Odyssey Stroke Lab Seven reacted to my swing in the store and bought it. Now I'm afraid to get fitted for putter lest they recommend something along the lines of my older blade =)
@Matt-je3fv
@Matt-je3fv 4 жыл бұрын
That's why headcovers were invented. Not to protect your clubs but to protect you. When in a bag, your new driver with an official TXG headcover looks just like your old driver with a TXG head cover on. Mallet putter headcovers fit on both mallet and blade heads. Nothing to worry about.
@CDMac24BB
@CDMac24BB 4 жыл бұрын
Matt O brilliant, Matt!! You’re a life saver.
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
Or just use the "wife trick", dont use it for a couple of weeks and if asked if new just say "this old thing, Ive had it ages, just havent used it much, thanks for noticing though, as I didnt think you were that interested in my golf" 😉
@charlesrohl7635
@charlesrohl7635 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-je3fv 😆👍
@angelmatos9143
@angelmatos9143 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been golfing for 40 years. The SeeMore is the most endearing club in the bag.
@jaerbear7237
@jaerbear7237 4 жыл бұрын
Switched to a malet 5 years ago. Went from around an avg 3.5 putts per round to 1.7. I am always 100% jealous of guys who strike blades well.
@NovaScene
@NovaScene 4 жыл бұрын
These are the 2 models I have been looking at for 2020 season, the PhontomX 12,5 is winning for me but would love to fit in this system.. Shame it's not available in my country.
@spotmfd9431
@spotmfd9431 4 жыл бұрын
I went back to Ping anser 2 to help control my distance. I find I have issues with distance control with a mallet.
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, thats interesting. I dont live close to anyone here in Norway who performs putting fittings. BUT Ive discovered I do have some forward press and like to drag my hands with the putter and been successful with that. Do you have any cheaper options to recommend, besides the Phantom 12.5? Any Odyssey model since I like their inserts. Thanks.
@lildvl10
@lildvl10 4 жыл бұрын
I switch from tm spider to select squareback and now the newport. I noticed that my misses are always pull. It always goes left even when the putt is straight. Is it more of a stroke problem than the putter or should i get fitted for one? Appreciate it. Ive learned so much about my game because of you guys. Does the length, lie and kind of putter really affect my putting? It is 34 long and im 5’7
@Trash_Panda_Manifesto
@Trash_Panda_Manifesto 2 жыл бұрын
Love your guys' videos but I think it would be helpful to see a fitting where you take someone with a higher handicap and you make them hit putts from the left and right side. This way, they are not able to use the 90 degree lines that are created by the putting surface you have. Even a bad putter can start to dial in a putt in this scenario. If they move from left to right with each put they have to change the angle. This will help to address AIM issues, not just putting stroke. I myself aim too far to the left and then I like to push my putts on-line. I have been trying to find an answer as to what type of putter might suite me but I can't seem to find the answer. Great videos though. Thanks for what you guys do!
@drewlance5406
@drewlance5406 4 жыл бұрын
I have a fair amount of “press” in my stroke, so it sounds like I would lean towards a mallet. But I also currently use a center shafted putter (Ping sigma g kinloch). Does the shaft type change much in terms of suggestions? Thanks!
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
A SC Newport 2 (Plumbers Neck) has more built in Forward Shaft Lean than a Newport 2.5 (Flow Neck). Same Head, Same Production Loft. Line up a N 2 and a N 2.5 Toe to Heel behind a 1×1 board set perpendicular to the Target Line and then Zero Out the Lofts with a Forward Press to Both. You will see the Handle/Grip of the N 2 is closer to the Target than the N 2.5. So a Player who sets up with F S L, or creates it with a Forward Press would be Better Off with a N 2 over a N 2.5. Matt delivers with a more Vertical Shaft, and that's why Ian's removing Loft from the N 2 Improved Matt's delivery.
@nicholasthorstensen6213
@nicholasthorstensen6213 3 жыл бұрын
This would be like a dream job.
@SvingitGolf
@SvingitGolf 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of wide blade putters like Stroke Lab Double Wide? I have gamed mallet putters Like Versa 7 and Spider X. But allways ends up going back to blade putters. I bought a Stroke Lab Double Wide with flow neck yesterday. I tend to aim better with a blade putter. I don't no why that is something feels different with a blade.
@Pfuetz4
@Pfuetz4 3 жыл бұрын
I think I know Matt's swing better than my own.
@lillithara5120
@lillithara5120 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to all the Center shafted putters, seemed 10 years ago there was a ton now you have to pick an choose to try and find one that still has an appeasing head on it.
@jeremiahminter7541
@jeremiahminter7541 4 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I think i heard on my golf spy podcast if I remember right, that center shafted putters are for strait back and through strokes, which very few people do, could be the reason.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
A Center Shafted Blade is Face Balanced as are most Mallets. Thus "Mallet" action for those that didn't want Mallet Shape/Look. Since Mallets have lost a lot of their prior stigma, Center Shafted Blades have diminished in popularity.
@michaelhammond7483
@michaelhammond7483 4 жыл бұрын
How do you reconcile the player who wishes to putt with a lighter putter because of feel, vs the heavier nature of putters today? I'm comfortable with a 310 gr and today you can't find anything less than 340 gr with many trending north of 350 gr. And ya, I'm old.
@chiangdavid7679
@chiangdavid7679 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoy the content! But I still got a question, does it mean if someone will have forward shaft lean, face balance putter will be better? Thanks!
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 4 жыл бұрын
With Forward Shaft Lean, less Toe Flow is Better, yet you Don't Have to go to Face Balanced. Just depends on whether or not your Putting Stroke has any Arc in It.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 4 жыл бұрын
TXG, What length PUTT were you testing at?
@tom_luley
@tom_luley 4 жыл бұрын
Matt seems very neutral with his swing and preference on putter type which is great for the video to appeal to the masses. I am very curious how the fitting would go with someone with more forward press, like Alex Noren or Jordan Spieth.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
Spieth uses a Newport (Plumbers Neck) which is designed for Forward Shaft Lean, or a Strong Forward Press to trigger the Backstroke. If you watch J S closely, you will see his "Forward Press" is actually the Last Step of his Setup. F P to set F S L, pause, Putter goes back.
@davidmaxfieldgolf
@davidmaxfieldgolf 4 жыл бұрын
Did Matt buy the Scotty??
@jjoemama74
@jjoemama74 4 жыл бұрын
We ever getting course vlogs again? 🤔
@jaconbits
@jaconbits 4 жыл бұрын
I was fit for putters, and the system recommended something with some decent toe hang, like a blade. I'm fine with that, but I've noticed some blade putters have too long a blade. What models of anser-style have a shorter blade length?
@Goldsilver
@Goldsilver 4 жыл бұрын
Evnroll ER2.
@stephendibari5010
@stephendibari5010 4 жыл бұрын
GoldSilver (w/ Mike Maloney) my ER2 has been in my bag since 2017. Can’t pull it out. Nothing will beat it
@3rdgroove
@3rdgroove 4 жыл бұрын
Too long a blade? Too long to do what?
@hbyrdut
@hbyrdut 3 жыл бұрын
If you can't get a putter fitting and you're trying to decide between a blade and a mallet what is the best way to do that? Would you just hit a few putts with each from different distances and choose the one that holes the most? I'm looking at the Mizuno M Craft type 1 and the Scotty Newport 2.5 for blades and the Scotty Del Mar, Fastback 1.5 or the Odyssey Stroke lab Marksman S for mallets.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
The Rule of Thumb is IF your Predominant Miss is to the "Push" side (to the Right for a Righty) you want LESS Toe Flow/Hang to Correct. IF you tend to "Pull" putts, then MORE Toe Flow/Hang will help. This, of course, must take into Account that you are Correctly Aimed and so is the Putter Face.
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
All the Scotty's you mentioned have significant Toe Flow/Hang. More than the Newport 2 shown here.
@darryljoyner
@darryljoyner 3 жыл бұрын
My man stood over that first putt like his life was on the line.
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 4 жыл бұрын
Is it my imagination or do mallet putters have a more stable swing? I have a very old Ping blade.
@maxcaysey2844
@maxcaysey2844 4 жыл бұрын
How many shots per round will a really well fitted putter yeald compared to a really poorly fitted? Here I mean how many shots will you save per round? Are we talking 1, or 5?
@jeffdugan2846
@jeffdugan2846 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a birdie ball putting green?
@clintsanderson6019
@clintsanderson6019 4 жыл бұрын
I gravitate towards mallets, but can’t stand the giant sight lines. Love it for alignment but find it distracting during the stroke. I see it in my peripheral vision a can’t unsee it now. (Ping Darby)
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
In 2018, I bought a new SC Newport 2.5 that had a BLACK Sightline. This was replacing a 25+ year old Bullseye Wide Blade (NO Dot or Sightline) After about 2 weeks I used Paint Remover to take the BLACK Paint out of the Sightline for the same reason (problem) you referred to. I find the Bare Groove ample for aligning the Putter and then it "disappears" during the Stroke.
@Boss302ATC
@Boss302ATC 4 жыл бұрын
40k views and only 800 likes, come on people.... you are watching their great content for free, the least you can do is like the damn thing
@stuh7049
@stuh7049 4 жыл бұрын
And there is always the option of the hybrid blade/mallet putter.
@TacosBravos
@TacosBravos 4 жыл бұрын
Why was a loft adjustment not made on the mallet?? Can someone help me from going crazy trying to figure that out
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
Different amouts of built in Forward Shaft Lean. Newport 2 has more and with Matt's More Vertical Shaft at Impact, effectively he was delivering MORE Loft. That Phantom has a more Vertical Shaft (less Forward Shaft Lean by design) so Matt delivered with a more Efficient Loft.
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 4 жыл бұрын
That Scotty "blade" is not a blade but an Anser style putter, a blade is what I played with for nearly 20 years (Yonex, Phil Mickelson blade c. 1998) - absolutely no tech, just a pure shiny lump of metal. A beautiful putter, exceptional feel, easy to control distance when you got consistent strike but completely unforgiving on any mishits. As for MOI, I can confirm it had none! I now play a mallet. Now can we have a video on choosing shaft length for a putter
@Ryan-fx7jx
@Ryan-fx7jx 4 жыл бұрын
For every player, there is always one best shaft length - the length that allows the eyes (draw a line straight down) to sit about half an inch inside the ball with their preference of grip, arm position, and other usual fitting factors.
@blarsen8
@blarsen8 4 жыл бұрын
For me, selecting a putter is a lengthy process of fitting, trial and error, using the putter on different types of grass, and different conditions.
@ph5937
@ph5937 3 жыл бұрын
"Just hit it" 😂
@timbuma3693
@timbuma3693 4 жыл бұрын
So if I had close to 0 launch angle and about 50 rpm forward spin, i should be probably looking at a mallet to get more launch?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Yes would help get the launch up and balance the forward roll 👍
@timbuma3693
@timbuma3693 4 жыл бұрын
Went back and watched Matty’s putter fitting from a year ago and seems like the microhinge technology might help too.
@terraceabbottunrau4547
@terraceabbottunrau4547 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take a Scotty phantom
@ForzaOwnz
@ForzaOwnz 4 жыл бұрын
What a robot!
@anthonycoleman7786
@anthonycoleman7786 4 жыл бұрын
Mallet is my choice
@gimbalair
@gimbalair 4 жыл бұрын
I was fit my Edel, best fitting process out there, without Quintin or SAM, works great for me, all my mates have off the rack putters cannot understand why they miss ones they should make. Change the putter not your technique.
@dannyl3417
@dannyl3417 2 жыл бұрын
"Just starting a new season" posted on 3/9/20...
@Disturbed7100
@Disturbed7100 Жыл бұрын
I'd had always thought that toe hang would be worse for you if you pulled your putts?
@KEVINSEPTEMBER
@KEVINSEPTEMBER 4 жыл бұрын
HEAVYPUTTER best putter ever!
@gearbox1858
@gearbox1858 4 жыл бұрын
Yes....if you play on terrible greens that role 5 on the stimp....
@juicenot2481
@juicenot2481 3 жыл бұрын
Haha he’s squirrel handed!
@MikeDoba
@MikeDoba 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have that machine plot out my putting stroke. Figure 8's anyone
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus 4 жыл бұрын
A plumbers neck is so ugly to me. I'm left eye dominant putt right, and the angle looks funky. I have worked on my putting technique. I used to have a ton of foward press and every once in awhile I would actually loose my angles and fat a putter badly. It's funny what I love to look at, tp mills one /one w pocket/and klassic with a 1/4 shaft or less offset, are so far away from what I actually perform well with. I changed to an Odyssey 2MCS (face balanced Center Shaft) with 35 gram weights and the shaft is actually slightly behind the face. I literally haven't missed a five footer because of mechanics since summer of 2016. I absolutely hate to look at it but I make almost everything with it. It's funny how that works sometimes. Sometimes you can actually forget about looks and live with performance. I was pulling puts so badly that I was trying to just get it close from 5 and 6 ft away. I would completely miss the left side of the hole. This putter probably saved me from quiting golf. It's hilarious to me that it didn't sell well and is terrible to look at. It is however extremely easy to line up.
@robcouch81
@robcouch81 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Dreyfus I’m a LH putter right eye dominate and I’ve never tried a center shafted putter. Makes me want to try one.... any testing TXG?
@Knickerson
@Knickerson 4 жыл бұрын
Was Matt looking to get fitted for a putter? Or did he already get fitted? I’m just curious because I can’t really tell what direction he’d take putter-wise. Correct me if I’m wrong, the data went toward mallet, his eye went toward blade ...
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Was more for demonstration purposes than a fitting, best numbers were with the adjusted blade
@petercusanelli5663
@petercusanelli5663 4 жыл бұрын
I push my putts I have to get a putter fitting....
@jackv5704
@jackv5704 4 жыл бұрын
God damn I wish there was a Melbourne TXG
@gearbox1858
@gearbox1858 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry we are not letting them leave Toronto
@scottmanthey3549
@scottmanthey3549 4 жыл бұрын
I find this irritating! I just spent $300 on the new Stroke lab, Bird of Prey and after watching this, I have no idea if I did the right thing. We don't have anyone around us who has a machine like you have so I have to rely on trying them in the store and their 60 day money back guarantee.
@LEV1ATHYN
@LEV1ATHYN 2 жыл бұрын
OMG so BORING... I watched this video for 13min and they were talking about golf putting and math angles the whole time!!
@dimer1729
@dimer1729 3 жыл бұрын
Fitted for a putter? Utterly ridiculous notion. Love golf, do not love golf equipment manufacturers. Horrible corporations.
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