I've never tried those but those numbers are good.

Glad it helped.

Thanks that will mean alot to him. trust me he does all the work, it's easy for me to turn a wrench or talk.

With that type of riding I would definitely look for a good bottom end toque cam. It really doesn't matter what brand they all put out good product's.

Both are good cams I don't think you will be disappointed. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.

@@DeathProofProductions thank you!

I run s&s 583 cams in my heratage softail. I picked it because I do alot of riding in the mountains loaded down and it keeps me from down shifting as much. In my dyna I run s.e. 260 cams it's my hotrod bike for light to light performance on bike night. I have run a pile of others and ended up choosing those because of how well they fit my needs. As far as what cam to use for your application I will only recommend one's I personally have used in my bikes when trying to find one that fit my needs. As a mechanic at a dealership I have installed hundreds but it's hard to recommend any of them based on a 7 mile test ride. I liked the s.e. 257 and the s&s 585 for interstate riding but the 583 is my favorite for 2 lane highways especially in the mountains.

thanks.

Since your going in it trust me from experience that the small lift cams are not gonna satisfy you. For myself I learned to go with the largest cam with duration and lobe separation that will give me what I want when I want it. Don't forget you got the springs in the head's to handle it with a 2015.

are you willing to go it the top end to change valve springs.

@@DeathProofProductions sure. It's kind of a long-term investment. I've been considering the S&S 509 cam.

if your gonna go into it i would choose a more aggressive cam. the 509 is to mild and you will regret the time and money you spent for the little gains you get.

What style of riding you usually do. I chose mine because I do alot of touring in mountain's.

probably 50 % rural roads, 25% city, 25% mountain..Thanks for your advice!

For my style of riding I found that I love the performance I get from the s&s 583c. I live in the Ozarks and do alot of riding out west so getting the most grunt at the bottom is important. My heratage is a 88 so I did have to go with progressive wound springs but I had the heads off to port and polish them anyway.

Sorry for delayed response been covered up, I would look at the s&s 570 or another brand simular in specs for the style of riding your talking about.

@@DeathProofProductions Thanks, I was looking at the SE 204 or 255, and Andrews 57H. There's so many options out there and so much information both ways that its hard to make a decision. I know any cam I go with is better than stock but hate to spend the money and time doing it myself and not like the one I put in.

I'm just a s & s guy because that's what I've been buying for myself since the 90s but fuelmoto is a good company. If it was me I would go with the 3500 setup and use that money saved for a road trip having fun riding that white knuckled chariot of doom. The need for Gear drive cams is really blown out of proportion. When I was working at bumpus harley davidson in memphis and the twin cam was born, I would have guys come in the service department just dogging the new engine because of the cam chain. When they were done ranting I would watch them walk out to there truck with overhead cams and 2 foot long cam chains turning them but they never complained about there truck. One issue about the gear drive is if your run out increases over the years you will start to get gear whine and premature gear wear. To me it's not worth the money.

@@DeathProofProductions Thanks! Appreciate your input. I'm leaning toward going with the Fuel Moto set up myself. Heck how can I go wrong if I get over 100 hp and torque numbers compared to the stock 88. With the money I save maybe I can add a decent oil cooler. They are a very reputable company with great technical support. I have 2 other bikes also so it's not like I'm going to put a ton of miles on it and with the improvements to the hydraulic tensioners I will get many miles on before any issues arise anyway. Thanks again I really enjoy your channel, keep up the great job!

Sorry for delay been tied up traveling to daytona. Yes the woods 222 is comparable to mine just looking at the specs. I have never run one but the numbers look good.

I would look at the s&s 551 or 583, i personally run the 583. I've got a pile stacked up like cord wood that I've tried and found that for my riding style I like these the best. I love the low end grunt they provide. It doesn't have to be s&s just one with a simular grind.

@@DeathProofProductions Thanks! I spoke with a very reputable shop that's been in business for 2 decades, and was recommended going gear drive with the S&S 509 cam? He said he's never seen a problem with gear drives from run out? He told me I watch too much You Tube? What are your thoughts?

I agree with him that you have to be careful with what you hear on KZfaq, lots of folks faking the funk for views. The mian reason that run out is important in gear drives is that if the working depth of the gear teeth is not correct it causes binding of the pressure angle on the teeth. This causes gear whine and accelerated wear. Flywheel run out can increase with time from a thing called shucking the flywheel plus I always felt it's kinda expensive. The 509 cam is ok but it's a very small upgrade over some other choices, if your spending the money to go in to it get the most bang for your buck. If your not satisfied with the cam then your spending money to do it again.

@@DeathProofProductions Yea, I understand the principle, but oddly he indicated he's never seen a bike come back to his shop with that damage? And he gets "alot" of bikes! Tough decision for me......

I've only seen it a few times myself, one was bad enough that I replaced the flywheel's and main bearings. These guys had alot of miles on there bikes and ride hard so that comes into play to. Actually gonna be making a vid hammer forging that very bearing into a knife. I would go with more aggressive cams if your spending the money to go into it.

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@@DeathProofProductions thanks for the response and I’m subbed to both of them great channels.

that's kinda a big difference. have you done a leakdown test and was the compression test done at full operating temp.

yes at full temp. mine has auto compression release valves i unhooked both of them and both cylinders read 210 psi. mine is 2016 Dyna street bob. 103 . i will try leak down this weekend.. Thanks...

Yeah i put that in there to be funny but nobody else has noticed. I really thought more people would have pointed that out.

You prolly would be happier with a little more aggressive cam. I tried those and really wasn't satisfied.

@@DeathProofProductions . What cam would you recommend then for a basically stock 88

@@DeathProofProductions What cam would you recommend then?

Sorry for delay been tied up with this shoulder surgery. Look at the specs on several cams and if you have stock compression than pick on that has the highest lift without much overlap. I'm a big fan of s&s and screaming eagle so that's the brand I buy.

@@DeathProofProductions so would the 509 be a good cam

after trying about a pile of them for my heritage i ended up using s.s. 583 cams.

@@DeathProofProductions that’s the one I was kinda leaning on getting thanks

2004 I do alot of touring out west so I settled on the 583 s.s. cam for the torque.

What r.p.m. range do you usually ride at .

Sorry for the delay. I stay between 2-4k

screaming eagle 264

sorry for delayed response been covered up with the next vid. when you say volume you mean how load the bike is.

@@DeathProofProductions yeah. It is far too loud. Need a cam that sound like a oldschool bike but not so loud as star 30 30 and cr483.

what kind of pipes you running

@@DeathProofProductions jekyll 2in2

S&S 583

@@DeathProofProductionsthe 583 is bolt in stock push rods and valve springs are good to go correct ?

What style of riding do you spend most of your time at.

Idle to 4500 rpm

So your mostly highway needing twist the wick to pass someone .

@@DeathProofProductions I want the most torque and most horsepower from a standing stop to 4500 RPMs

I see your like me. The 583 and the screaming eagle 262 are the only two that have ever put a smile on my face and I have tried and installed quite a few, hell i got ones i pulled out that didn't satisfy me stacked up on a shelf like cordwood

Or I could use my 26 years of experience as a certified Harley tech, a machinist and millwright to get all the power I need out of it . Just wondering how many coast to coast trips have you done, I bet none so you can take your hate comment and shove it up your ass.

That might be the dumbest comment I've ever heard about shifting. Great video! Great explanation for guys who are new to cam upgrades. Pretty impressive taking that Heritage across country with no tunes! 😂 Ride on brother 👍​@DeathProofProductions

Thanks for the compliment. The one thing that where's you out is these slackjawed bugger eating morons making some dumb ass comment about stuff they don't know anything about. I mean who the hell doesn't want more power. Im sure last week they couldn't spell biker now they are one.

Some people just do not deserve ones attention. Very good stuff, as usual.

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Cam choice has alot to do with the r.p.m. range your wanting the bike to come alive at. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say your wanting plenty of bottom end tourque so the s&s 583 in a softail would be my recommendation.

Thanks brother that exactly what I'm wanting!!!!

S & S has a complete 100" Power Package with everything from cam plate, oil pump, lifters, pushrods comes with 585 easy start cams. Need to go with their cnc 79 cc heads with better valve springs for the 585 lift cams. Not sure exactly the difference is between 583 and 585 cams if someone knows like to hear.