In this video I show you the easy way to pick the best performance cams for your motorcycle. Now this info is good for any type of motorcycle that's not electric.
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@samuelmontgomery38829 күн бұрын
I have tried several different cams in my 2017 124” ultra. I am now running a CR480MT from CycleRama. Best torque cam I found so far. I don’t know why we don’t hear about it. The H.P. on top end is a little low. But the torque is unbelievable. 152TQ @ 3337 RPM 124HP@ 4980 RPM
@DeathProofProductions6 күн бұрын
I've never tried those but those numbers are good.
@MountainE36Ай бұрын
I’m looking at a reaper 574 for my ultra ‘13 103 twin I’m 75%-80% on the highway and the rest is street light stuff this video helped me out with solidifying my decision
@DeathProofProductionsАй бұрын
Glad it helped.
@FishFace13 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Cheers. Your son is doing a great job with the editing and production too! Slick.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks that will mean alot to him. trust me he does all the work, it's easy for me to turn a wrench or talk.
@jimkillen1065 Жыл бұрын
I not a expert for sure . I drove my money pits 2 up in Colorado and other places . There something to be said about cubic inches . I have the 640 SS in both bikes. This camshaft really shines with some compression added to it . Just needs a good tune . I think my Rev limiter is set to 6200 on both engines.. I use DD 2 into 1 exhaust.. on both bikes
@droclevelandoh8842 Жыл бұрын
This guy is great ,great info brother 🍻
@Youdontride94Ай бұрын
I love torque so I went with the S&S 475 0-100 is all I care about 😎 2018 Streetglide
@ND-nc1fi6 ай бұрын
probably 50 % rural roads, 25% city, 25% mountain..Thanks for your advice!
@DeathProofProductions6 ай бұрын
With that type of riding I would definitely look for a good bottom end toque cam. It really doesn't matter what brand they all put out good product's.
@BigTee30993 ай бұрын
Very informative video! Im thinking of a cam swap for my 2012 RG (103). Zippers red shift 528 or Woods TW-222's.
@DeathProofProductions3 ай бұрын
Both are good cams I don't think you will be disappointed. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
@BigTee309929 күн бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions thank you!
@davidscottcurtiscurtis775 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 04, twin cam 1,2 and a ss 583 cam. (Fxsti) it will run 70mph @ 3150rpm. But it will do 100mph @ 3400rpm I think 583 cams.
@TheKerstingm Жыл бұрын
Sorry I might of missed it, but I didn't hear what cams you're running? I have a 2011 Softail classic completely stock 5k miles I want to build for my bike night show-off bike. My 2nd bike 2007 Electra Glide Standard 43k miles, installing S&S dual header with 4" Rinehart pipes, screaming Eagle high flow air kit, power commander V tuner, not looking at a big bore kit right now, possibly will later, best cam option for mid and higher power? Great info by the way, with all the videos I've watched I have to say you broke the info down better then anyone else. 👍🏻
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
I run s&s 583 cams in my heratage softail. I picked it because I do alot of riding in the mountains loaded down and it keeps me from down shifting as much. In my dyna I run s.e. 260 cams it's my hotrod bike for light to light performance on bike night. I have run a pile of others and ended up choosing those because of how well they fit my needs. As far as what cam to use for your application I will only recommend one's I personally have used in my bikes when trying to find one that fit my needs. As a mechanic at a dealership I have installed hundreds but it's hard to recommend any of them based on a 7 mile test ride. I liked the s.e. 257 and the s&s 585 for interstate riding but the 583 is my favorite for 2 lane highways especially in the mountains.
@HDYaqui Жыл бұрын
Great Information! 👍🏽👍🏽
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
thanks.
@darrinleazer67842 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 fatboy. It already came with a aftermarket air filter, and has a set of Vance/Hanes shorty headers. It sounds good, like it is' but' would like to know what can set-up would be good for it. I'm using riding around town, but' take the highway to get to town, and' ride to the Coast, which' has long stretched roads for miles. I do plan on going with a new cam plate and new oil pump as well. Thinking about the SS. So' any ideas, as to what size cam I should use.
@DeathProofProductions2 ай бұрын
Since your going in it trust me from experience that the small lift cams are not gonna satisfy you. For myself I learned to go with the largest cam with duration and lobe separation that will give me what I want when I want it. Don't forget you got the springs in the head's to handle it with a 2015.
@richardanderson4916 Жыл бұрын
I just bought an '04 Road King. I plan to do some long road trips. Im not trying to build a rocket. I would like something torquey with good passing power.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
are you willing to go it the top end to change valve springs.
@richardanderson4916 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions sure. It's kind of a long-term investment. I've been considering the S&S 509 cam.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
if your gonna go into it i would choose a more aggressive cam. the 509 is to mild and you will regret the time and money you spent for the little gains you get.
@ND-nc1fi6 ай бұрын
Awesome video,very informative. .. not sure what year your Heritage is but what cam upgrade would you recommend for 2006 heritage softail. Would it still be the 583 for a 06 Thank you
@DeathProofProductions6 ай бұрын
What style of riding you usually do. I chose mine because I do alot of touring in mountain's.
@ND-nc1fi6 ай бұрын
probably 50 % rural roads, 25% city, 25% mountain..Thanks for your advice!
@martinwall7297 Жыл бұрын
so my friend, what cam do u use. i ask because i put a fueling 525 gear drive in one of my TC fuel injected, 5 years ago, and an S&S 509g gear drive in my other TC carburetored. both run great, but the fueling is a better set up.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
For my style of riding I found that I love the performance I get from the s&s 583c. I live in the Ozarks and do alot of riding out west so getting the most grunt at the bottom is important. My heratage is a 88 so I did have to go with progressive wound springs but I had the heads off to port and polish them anyway.
@sethcavins91462 ай бұрын
Hows it going man, love your videos. I have a 2012 Road Glide Ultra with a 103 and Im looking for a nice mid range cam. I do most of my riding around town and 2-3 hour rides in the country sometimes on the freeway. Im not doing burnouts or whole shots so want something strong in the mid range. Im a first time cam guy and with all the cams out there its mind boggling. Not looking to do any head work in the future and want something that bolts right in. Any suggestions on the right cam to go with?
@DeathProofProductions2 ай бұрын
Sorry for delayed response been covered up, I would look at the s&s 570 or another brand simular in specs for the style of riding your talking about.
@sethcavins91462 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks, I was looking at the SE 204 or 255, and Andrews 57H. There's so many options out there and so much information both ways that its hard to make a decision. I know any cam I go with is better than stock but hate to spend the money and time doing it myself and not like the one I put in.
@robbaar7035 Жыл бұрын
I understand you prefer S & S cams in your builds. My question is a 100" big bore kit from S & S everything I need, TC3 Cam plate, TC3 oil pump, 585 gear drive cams if crank runout allows, adjustable pushrods, lifters and also S & S heads will cost around $4500. Fuel Moto has a 98" big bore kit with all of that except has Woods TW-555-6R chain drive cams with newer hydraulic tensioners and they have Level B CNC heads I would send my old heads in for a core, all of that cost about $3500. I can find dyno charts for the Fuel Moto/Woods build at 112 hp and 116 tq for similar year air cleaner and exhaust I have but I can't find dyno charts for the S & S build with heads and all. Is the S & S worth it? I understand the gear drive comes with a higher cost. Let me know if you know where I can find S & S dyno charts. Thanks!
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
I'm just a s & s guy because that's what I've been buying for myself since the 90s but fuelmoto is a good company. If it was me I would go with the 3500 setup and use that money saved for a road trip having fun riding that white knuckled chariot of doom. The need for Gear drive cams is really blown out of proportion. When I was working at bumpus harley davidson in memphis and the twin cam was born, I would have guys come in the service department just dogging the new engine because of the cam chain. When they were done ranting I would watch them walk out to there truck with overhead cams and 2 foot long cam chains turning them but they never complained about there truck. One issue about the gear drive is if your run out increases over the years you will start to get gear whine and premature gear wear. To me it's not worth the money.
@robbaar7035 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks! Appreciate your input. I'm leaning toward going with the Fuel Moto set up myself. Heck how can I go wrong if I get over 100 hp and torque numbers compared to the stock 88. With the money I save maybe I can add a decent oil cooler. They are a very reputable company with great technical support. I have 2 other bikes also so it's not like I'm going to put a ton of miles on it and with the improvements to the hydraulic tensioners I will get many miles on before any issues arise anyway. Thanks again I really enjoy your channel, keep up the great job!
@stevenchaney7396 Жыл бұрын
Would you say the woods tw222 be good for bottom end compared to your cam? In a 96 ci 08 street bob
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
Sorry for delay been tied up traveling to daytona. Yes the woods 222 is comparable to mine just looking at the specs. I have never run one but the numbers look good.
@Chris-gi9ch5 ай бұрын
I just purchased a bone stock 2002 FXDX, if you can believe that! It's being shipped. What woukd you go with for the chest, and cams to rip hard around town? Thanks.
@DeathProofProductions5 ай бұрын
I would look at the s&s 551 or 583, i personally run the 583. I've got a pile stacked up like cord wood that I've tried and found that for my riding style I like these the best. I love the low end grunt they provide. It doesn't have to be s&s just one with a simular grind.
@Chris-gi9ch5 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks! I spoke with a very reputable shop that's been in business for 2 decades, and was recommended going gear drive with the S&S 509 cam? He said he's never seen a problem with gear drives from run out? He told me I watch too much You Tube? What are your thoughts?
@DeathProofProductions5 ай бұрын
I agree with him that you have to be careful with what you hear on KZfaq, lots of folks faking the funk for views. The mian reason that run out is important in gear drives is that if the working depth of the gear teeth is not correct it causes binding of the pressure angle on the teeth. This causes gear whine and accelerated wear. Flywheel run out can increase with time from a thing called shucking the flywheel plus I always felt it's kinda expensive. The 509 cam is ok but it's a very small upgrade over some other choices, if your spending the money to go in to it get the most bang for your buck. If your not satisfied with the cam then your spending money to do it again.
@Chris-gi9ch5 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Yea, I understand the principle, but oddly he indicated he's never seen a bike come back to his shop with that damage? And he gets "alot" of bikes! Tough decision for me......
@DeathProofProductions5 ай бұрын
I've only seen it a few times myself, one was bad enough that I replaced the flywheel's and main bearings. These guys had alot of miles on there bikes and ride hard so that comes into play to. Actually gonna be making a vid hammer forging that very bearing into a knife. I would go with more aggressive cams if your spending the money to go into it.
@Johnny-jr2lq Жыл бұрын
Hello I found your channel via hours and hours of searching KZfaq for real gun smith content. I have a question for you if a old guy such as myself wants to pursue a career and gunsmithing. How would you recommend it ????? Do you think SDI or any on line gunsmithing school is really worth the money. Btw I’m a fan of blue moon as well great beef
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
you can learn the basics of gunsmithing by reading a few books and watching some good videos on you tube. this will get you were you can understand how to repair broken guns. go to jack first gun parts and order all three volumes of the gun parts exploded diagrams. as far as doing the finish work like bluing and color case hardening and that stuff you will learn everything you need from the instructions that come with the chemicals and stuff you buy from brownells. but what separates the men from the boys is knowing how to run a lathe, milling machine and tig weld. all that you can learn online. i recommend watching scotty on poboy specials channel and this old tony.
@Johnny-jr2lq Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions thanks for the response and I’m subbed to both of them great channels.
@murphy6767 Жыл бұрын
I did a compression test on my Dyna 103 front cylinder 100 back cylinder 120 psi. Is this trouble? Thanks Great video.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
that's kinda a big difference. have you done a leakdown test and was the compression test done at full operating temp.
@murphy6767 Жыл бұрын
yes at full temp. mine has auto compression release valves i unhooked both of them and both cylinders read 210 psi. mine is 2016 Dyna street bob. 103 . i will try leak down this weekend.. Thanks...
@jonbrasch8677 Жыл бұрын
You lost me at your graph where you showed a harley pulling away from an S1000RR 😂
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
Yeah i put that in there to be funny but nobody else has noticed. I really thought more people would have pointed that out.
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted your professional opinion I have a 2000 softail springer I'm going to change out the cams in the shoe tensioners. My riding style is basically idle to 4500 rpms. I'm going to change out the cams and the cam tensioner shoes. I was wondering what you thought of the s&s 509s or the woods tw-6. Bike is already stage 1. Thank you. Really just want an easy bolt in cam
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
You prolly would be happier with a little more aggressive cam. I tried those and really wasn't satisfied.
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions . What cam would you recommend then for a basically stock 88
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions What cam would you recommend then?
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
Sorry for delay been tied up with this shoulder surgery. Look at the specs on several cams and if you have stock compression than pick on that has the highest lift without much overlap. I'm a big fan of s&s and screaming eagle so that's the brand I buy.
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions so would the 509 be a good cam
@jonnymac8925 Жыл бұрын
Guy in Video "My shift points are going to be around 5000rpm because I don't want to blow my bike up to prove a point" Me: bumping my rev limiter down from 7000rpm to 6800rpm 🤫😕😟😮 Lolll
@travislohneis2242 ай бұрын
I have a 11 heritage stage one which cams do you have or what would you suggest? Just looking for a little more torque and hp
@DeathProofProductions2 ай бұрын
after trying about a pile of them for my heritage i ended up using s.s. 583 cams.
@travislohneis2242 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions that’s the one I was kinda leaning on getting thanks
@raye17848 ай бұрын
What year is your heritage and what cam is in it
@DeathProofProductions8 ай бұрын
2004 I do alot of touring out west so I settled on the 583 s.s. cam for the torque.
@freebehindbars8654 Жыл бұрын
S&S 475 or Wood 22X for a 107 M8 bagger. That’s my dilemma.
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
What r.p.m. range do you usually ride at .
@freebehindbars8654 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay. I stay between 2-4k
@harleydave2316 Жыл бұрын
What can do you run in the dyna?
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
screaming eagle 264
@nxyz906Ай бұрын
Star 30 30 and CR483 too loud for my bike. Want to have a cam with has a volume between stock and cr483 with nice idöe. Low mid range. Any idea???
@DeathProofProductionsАй бұрын
sorry for delayed response been covered up with the next vid. when you say volume you mean how load the bike is.
@nxyz906Ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions yeah. It is far too loud. Need a cam that sound like a oldschool bike but not so loud as star 30 30 and cr483.
@DeathProofProductions29 күн бұрын
what kind of pipes you running
@nxyz90629 күн бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions jekyll 2in2
@bky89nigga6 ай бұрын
What cam did you use for the softail
@DeathProofProductions6 ай бұрын
S&S 583
@user-nn9yt2kn3t6 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductionsthe 583 is bolt in stock push rods and valve springs are good to go correct ?
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
So what cam would you recommend for a stock 88 that has a stage 1 kit
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
What style of riding do you spend most of your time at.
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
Idle to 4500 rpm
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
So your mostly highway needing twist the wick to pass someone .
@dandragan8405 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions I want the most torque and most horsepower from a standing stop to 4500 RPMs
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
I see your like me. The 583 and the screaming eagle 262 are the only two that have ever put a smile on my face and I have tried and installed quite a few, hell i got ones i pulled out that didn't satisfy me stacked up on a shelf like cordwood
@chrisaskme8118 ай бұрын
If you don’t want to have to down shift, just buy an automatic bike then or grow up.
@DeathProofProductions8 ай бұрын
Or I could use my 26 years of experience as a certified Harley tech, a machinist and millwright to get all the power I need out of it . Just wondering how many coast to coast trips have you done, I bet none so you can take your hate comment and shove it up your ass.
@maxxbenzz78428 ай бұрын
That might be the dumbest comment I've ever heard about shifting. Great video! Great explanation for guys who are new to cam upgrades. Pretty impressive taking that Heritage across country with no tunes! 😂 Ride on brother 👍@DeathProofProductions
@DeathProofProductions8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. The one thing that where's you out is these slackjawed bugger eating morons making some dumb ass comment about stuff they don't know anything about. I mean who the hell doesn't want more power. Im sure last week they couldn't spell biker now they are one.
@michaelslawinski64498 ай бұрын
Some people just do not deserve ones attention. Very good stuff, as usual.
@chrisaskme8118 ай бұрын
🥴🥴errr I’m mikey slawskin, 🥴🥴errrr
@robertpiper8130 Жыл бұрын
I got 2001 duece I'm about to get the s&s sidewinder 100 bolt on kit. My buddy say I need to upgrade cam. Can you recommend cam upgrade?
@DeathProofProductions Жыл бұрын
Cam choice has alot to do with the r.p.m. range your wanting the bike to come alive at. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say your wanting plenty of bottom end tourque so the s&s 583 in a softail would be my recommendation.
@robertpiper8130 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother that exactly what I'm wanting!!!!
@robbaar7035 Жыл бұрын
S & S has a complete 100" Power Package with everything from cam plate, oil pump, lifters, pushrods comes with 585 easy start cams. Need to go with their cnc 79 cc heads with better valve springs for the 585 lift cams. Not sure exactly the difference is between 583 and 585 cams if someone knows like to hear.