I agree with you as a Latter Day Saint. Pastor Jeff is a good man and I appreciate his methods. Apologias method is very imprudent and kind of rude. If you want to reach a latter Day Saint, you need to invite the Holy Ghost to be the teacher. He is the revelator. This interaction though is better than ones I've seen in the past.

​@@vincentorr507But I've seen Mormons become Christian because of the work that Apologia does. I honestly have not seen that with pastor Jeff. Just being honest.

@@courtneyko1466 I can’t speak to Jeff’s success to converting Saints to creedal christianity you will have to ask him, but his methods are more likely to invite the Holy Ghost. Latter Day Saint missionaries are taught to avoid contention. We meet with people in their homes and teach people who are ready to listen and are humble. We don’t go and shove scripture down peoples throats and try trip people up in their words and make them feel stupid. Then put it on camera and scoff. That is what apologia does and it’s not nice or Christ like, they’re more like the Pharisees. We seek to edify and uplift and invite the Holy Ghost to be the teacher. That’s why you see so many people even In 2024 make covenants and become a member of the Lords church. Check out David Boyce 52 churches in 52 weeks. David was baptized into the church after going to 100s of different churches. He vlogged his whole experience as it was happening. We bring the Holy Ghost to people and invite them receive it. We can’t force the Holy Ghost on people. Nor will God.

LDS love the Bible too.

@@user-og2wt3le4j Do they love the same bible that says, "There are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed?" Galatians 1 Am i to believe the Apostles and men who walked with Christ who went to their death defending their faith, or a man that came a thousand years later, saying the scriptures had been corrupted and that he has the real truth?

@@skiu4ea434they claim they believe the Bible but when it contradicts their doctrine it’s easier to brush off if you believe it’s been corrupted. I find it interesting that they claim it’s missing many plain and precious parts when the Book of Mormon doesn’t do anything to fill in the gaps. It’s the later revelation Joseph had but those directly contradict the Book of Mormon. But Satan accomplished his goal by taking them away from the Bible and having them believe in a perverted version of the gospel and the opportunity to become Gods based on their own righteousness

So true. And to these two light-absent men , it doesn't matter; because they preach Jesus will save you in your sins. But Jesus came to save you from your sins.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Everybody sins, we were born to it, it doesn’t matter how much you fight you will never uphold to the standard of God. That is why he manifested in the flesh, and died for the sins of the world. Because man is not, nor will he ever be perfect, God was the perfect lamb, the perfect sacrifice for us. You will not become a god. You will not inherit your own planet. You will face judgment, if you are not covered by the blood of the Lamb. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Maybe you approach is wrong if it’s NEVER worked!? Ever thought of that one?? Or maybe your wrong, try to humble yourself and learn what you can. Those who do with a sincere heart end up being baptized!!

I don't know why the LDS couple is even bothering to try and explain things to those guys, because they won't listen. It won't do any good. I've tried for decades to share the LDS church with people in real life and online, and it's like talking to a wall.

Because people will say that you're not supposed to modify the Bible of course. And since you said that, that will be further evidence to them that you are on the wrong path. Et al.

So because they are trying to reach the lost...they are false? Got it. Just cuz someone shared their testimony of a false gospel in a peaceful manner doesn't make it correct. Why is contention bad? Oh because your seminary teacher or bishop told you so. It's of the devil. Bible tells us to CONTEND for the faith. I'll go with what lines up with God's Word. Not you or your feelings

@@raymorrow1491 sorry but you don’t read the Bible in its purity. You’ve put on the glasses of what the world has chosen for you. Contend for the faith doesn’t mean going to other churches holy places (like a temple) and bring anti pass along cards and have a passive aggressive approach with your interactions. Only 2 people exemplified a Christlike attitude here and it was the couple. They aren’t trying to “reach lost Mormons”, they might say they are and act like it, but in reality they like the views and money, otherwise they wouldn’t film their interactions and would be more kind. When you’re ready to humble yourself from the man made creeds and see the true church of Jesus Christ I would be happy to help teach you!!!

Now thats a very interesting comment. Hmmm, 1/ Jesus said, love one another as I have loved you. 2/ Those that crucified the Christ labeled him as a blasphemous and damming heretic.

Yeah, I really dislike how older LDS people especially feel entitled to physical contact with you when they’re talking to you…

@@joshuawatson1902 I think that's just older people in general.

"Your putting up walls, not tearing them down." This is great feedback for Apologia, because if they are genuinely trying to Save these people, they failed before they even began. Great point to make!

Going to church and reading the Bible does not save you. Being born again through faith in Jesus saves you. Our works are as filthy rags. It’s not what we do it’s what he did for us on our behalf. Jesus is enough!

Do they have faith in Jesus Christ for their salvation and have a repentant heart? Then yes.

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Good question. IMO it's about what a person is becoming,..is she trying to become more like Christ or is she moving further away from Christ . I think the savior will be more merciful than we sometimes are aware of. And I believe if she sincerely prays to and asks for his redemptive blood to save her And help her live a cleaner life, Then yes definitely. Memorizing Bible quotes will help. But the words by themselves, or the bible by itself are meaningless unless one takes advantage of the blood of Christ and his gift to us.

LDS worship the same Jesus as you.

@@user-og2wt3le4j is the Jesus you serve the creator? Is he satans brother? Is the Jesus you serve God? Mormons don’t have a clue who Christ is ….you do NOT serve the same Jesus. The bom is a false historical account. The funerary text that Joseph’s said was from Abraham…..debunked in 1967. Mormons may have some of the Christian language but you’re not Christian. You serve satan

@@user-og2wt3le4j everything God tells us NOT to do. Mormons DO with a passion……your an enemy of God

No... Christians believe in the trinitarian Jesus...

@@bigtobacco1098 which is a false God. I guess your claim of main string christians indicate that they are duped.

I too believe that Jesus is distinct from the Father. That ought to be what every non-lds Christian believes as well.

That's right. people think that just because the different churches interpret the Bible differently, that Mormons worship "the wrong Jesus". But it's the other churches that interpret things wrong, or don't have the fullness of the gospel, etc. I'm a convert to the LDS church and understood all this over 40 years ago when I was first trying to learn about the Church.

There's a reason Paul warned about a different Jesus. Muslims, JWs, New Age, Mormons, etc. each have a different Jesus than the one taught in the Bible. The Bible teaches and we believe that Jesus created everything, including Satan. We believe that Jesus is the eternal infinite God and not a created being, but has always existed as God, the second person of the Trinity. I s t h a t w h a t y o u b e l i e v e ?

@@allieReformed As we have explained a million times, the only reason it's a "different Jesus" is because the other mainstream Christian churches have it wrong. They don't have the correct doctrines or the fullness of the gospel. That's why a RESTORATION was needed. That's why we have the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Matthew q 16:18

@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u In Galatians 1:8 (and 9), Paul said "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Then Joseph Smith came along 1800 years later, preaching a different gospel. I guarantee he was working for the devil. Please don't fall for that any longer. I sure did, but I was duped by the devil.