How to Effectively Launch an Audi B9 S4, S5, SQ5 & RS5

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One of the #1 questions I was asked in 2022 about my 2018 Audi S4 was how do I launch the car so well? In this video I explain the basics of how I make sure my car doesn't creep forward when activating launch control. I also do my best to simplify how launch control works when using a ZF8 automatic transmission vs a dual clutch transmission.
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@Need4Built Жыл бұрын

Your advice is going to get me into the 9’s this year! 📈📈📈

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

SAVE MONEY ON YOUR INTEGRATED ENGINEERING PURCHASES BY USING THIS LINK: - performancebyie.com/vancityaudi Something that I should have discussed in this video but forgot to is how long you should hold down launch control. The one thing I always remember is "Spinning ain't winning." So if you are noticing wheel/tire spin on launch, reduce the amount of time you are holding down the throttle before you let go of the brake. I also forgot to mention that these tips will also work with B9 SQ5's. Good luck!

@rotrmotr Жыл бұрын

Hey Adam may I suggest trying stainless steel brake lines. I did notice in your video that the pedal was squishy. The s/s lines will give a more positive linear feel to the pedal.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@@rotrmotr I downgraded my brakes. That's why the brake pedal has so much travel. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oeCjpa-G2L3YmqM.html

@2strokeFORever Жыл бұрын

@@rotrmotr i was thinking the same. SS lines for the win no matter what vehicle/brake package

@pollorobot69 Жыл бұрын

thanks adam as always for your great videos

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome

@lits5984 Ай бұрын

Just bought an s4 a couple of weeks ago, love this video as I haven’t tried the launch control yet. Thank you!

@VancityAudi Ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

@lits5984 26 күн бұрын

@@VancityAudiOk, I have a 2023 S4. I did everything you said (checked many times). My boost doesn't build and my rpms stay at 2k . Tried it multiple times, no change. Suggestions?

@VancityAudi 26 күн бұрын

@lits5984 sounds like a software or hardware issue then. Have you logged the car when lunch control is active to see what the car is doing? If not, have you reached out to your tuner letting them know the issue?

@lits5984 26 күн бұрын

@@VancityAudi I have had the car about three weeks, tonight I tried the launch for the first time. I have an appointment at Audi next week for some other issues with the connectivity app. I will see if I can talk to the mechanic working on my car, maybe he can run a diagnostic or knows of the issue. I appreciate you responding, thank you. I will let you know what happens, for now no more tries 😂

@VancityAudi 26 күн бұрын

@lits5984 are you attempting to do what I'm showing with a completely stock B9.5 S4?

@johnkussmann6224 Жыл бұрын

Hey great tip! This can apply to domestic autos too 😊

@fossilqexplorist2578 Жыл бұрын

You can actually map the fluid transfer module if you want. The Buick GNx had the same issue and people have custom coded a mapping which acts as a virtual line lock. I am just not sure how you'd equate that on an AWD setup.

@rotrmotr Жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam and thanks to your videos I am seriously considering a B9 S4 soon. My concern though has been from other content providers mentioning reliability issues with the engine. You definitely push your B9 S4 hard. Can you please make a video detailing your findings if any?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

No findings to report thus far. My car has been perfectly mechanically sound to date. Please knock on some 🪵 for me 😉

@tombrown9246 Жыл бұрын

Great informative video Adam. My car is throwing a p5c36 error on the B9 so I may need to take it to the shop before I can test these new to me techniques

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

That's an EVAP code. Extremely common on this platform and nothing to worry about.

@tombrown9246 Жыл бұрын

Ty sir!

@andrewshoot4504 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for he info. Do you know if this technique will work for the B9 2018 SQ5? I am stage 1 plus other bolt ons, and having trouble keeping from creeping too. I will try your technique.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

It absolutely will. That's my bad for not listing your vehicle in my list of applications this will work for. You have the exact same engine and transmission that I do.

@jeffzuccarell9420 Жыл бұрын

Great video Adam

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@scottc78 Жыл бұрын

Happy 2023, great to see you! It's interesting that the ZF8 in the Audi doesn't have a legit Launch Control function. I had the same transmission in my '14 BMW 550i X-drive and it had a full launch control feature. I guess it's just Audi vs BMW software.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. So when you activated launch control in your BMW, the car wouldn't physically try to accelerate while your foot was on the brake? It just sat there and instantly built boost while the rpm's raise?

@scottc78 Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi if you had the traction in "sport" or Off, and the car in Sport+, holding the brake and flooring the gas would bring up "Launch Control Active" under the speedo. I didn't have to pump the brakes, but you had to floor the pedal or it could push through them. It held the RPMs around 2900.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@@scottc78 It's a ZF8 with a torque converter. From what you said above It works the same way. You don't HAVE to pump the brakes in these cars but it certainly helps prevent the car from moving forward. Especially with the Stage 3 cars that make well over 600lb/ft.

@scottc78 Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi I'm not sure what my torque was, but this was the twin turbo 4.4L V8 with an E30 tune. So around 530awhp.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@@scottc78 I'm suspecting that your brakes are significantly better in a 550i?

@salninethousand2496 Жыл бұрын

2021 SQ5 with but only stage 1 tune here. Pumping the brakes didn't work for me. I'd still push right through. I now skooch the seat up 6-8" to increase leverage. Now, I can hold at 4,200 RPM till the ECU cuts RPM due to transmission overheat warning (~8 sec)!

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Lol, seeing as pumping the brakes was only half of the equation, I'm not surprised it didn't work for you. You'll also never need to hold down launch control that long, or you'll end up spinning off the line. It's also not healthy for your car to build up that much heat by holding it down that long.

@blade643 Жыл бұрын

Nice tip Adam!

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Lsthnbrd Жыл бұрын

So what kind of set up is this true for? When my B9 S5 was stock, it was exactly like this, it tried to push through the brakes. Now I’m 034 stage 1 and it doesn’t do that anymore. Car holds steady with just a moderate push of the brake pedal and I can build as much boost as I want. Does this start to become an issue again like you described once you get to the higher stages/more power?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's different for everyone, but I experienced it starting at a Stage 1 - 91 octane power level because I have downgraded brakes. Other people noticed it at a Stage 1 - E85 power level.

@vivanbhathena999 Жыл бұрын

had this happen to me at the races the first time i did it...did u note a major difference with the esc turned fully off? waiting eagerly for your 810 dyno video

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I always launch with it completely off like I show in the video.

@nrlarson79 2 ай бұрын

So pump in park, hold, shift then go or pump on s1?

@VancityAudi 2 ай бұрын

Nothing is done in Park. It's all done when you're staging and getting ready to launch in whatever drive mode you prefer to launch in .

@purrly8578 6 ай бұрын

Lovely and helpful video. Okay two questions. What is your desired RPM/boost when launching? Does it change when not on a strip (Mexico.) Also how do you time the launch if it doesn’t automatically hold the RPMs for you? Hopefully those made sense

@VancityAudi 6 ай бұрын

Desired RPM/boost will depend on the amount of traction you have. Proper drag racing tires on a prepped track, you'll be able to load it up more. Shi$$y street tires on a slippery street, then you'll have to dial it back. Once you've established what practice best works on the surface you're on, you'd have to figure out roughly how long it takes to build the appropriate amount of boost before you let off the brake. Heads up racing off a flash light or something like that would be extremely hard. At the track it is easier once you're staged.

@purrly8578 6 ай бұрын

You knew exactly where I was going with that! At a streetlight- seems like no chance. Thanks for the help.

@purrly8578 6 ай бұрын

Did forget to ask.. do you just floor the gas pedal then at desired boost left off brake? Or is it more of a feather action?

@VancityAudi 6 ай бұрын

@@purrly8578I go over that in the video

@Slimyxon Жыл бұрын

Could you do another dragy video. I liked those

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

I can't in the cold, wet, rain & snow. Sorry

@yacluck8343 Жыл бұрын

Would this work with a traditional 6 speed auto? Aisin 09G

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly not too sure. Sorry

@DENCHAN36 Жыл бұрын

Will this technique work with a S8 since it has a ZF also?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

I would imagine it would

@zaheers123 17 күн бұрын

Hi mate I have heard that duing launch control on the B9 can break few things and its not safe for your car

@VancityAudi 17 күн бұрын

Whoever you heard that from is being a little b#tch 😂 Of course you are more likely to break things from utilizing launch control when you're making a bunch more torque over stock. With that said though, I did a TON of launches in my car and never broke any components. I also know of a ton of other B9 owners that use launch control all the time that have never broken anything

@christianfritz3373 4 күн бұрын

Will this work on my 2022 s5 coupe?

@pf4005 Ай бұрын

I just went stage 1 with IE tuning with my 2018 S5 Sportback, and the problem I'm seeing is that when I hold the brake down, and step on the gas, the revs initially build but then go back down to 1000. When I come off the brake, there's a delay, then it accelerates. What am I doing wrong?

@VancityAudi Ай бұрын

Is your traction control off? Also, are you pushing the brake pedal hard enough?

@pf4005 Ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi yes, traction control all the way off. Brake pedal doesn't seem to be the problem, as the car stays put no problem. I can't get the revs to build.

@VancityAudi Ай бұрын

@@pf4005car is also in Dynamic mode and in Sport? If you're doing all of that and it still doesn't work, I'd reach out to IE's customer support

@pf4005 Ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi yes, Dynamic and Sport. Thanks, I'll reach out. other than the launch issue, the car is running great.

@packat78 Жыл бұрын

and brake torquing doesn't screw up the tranny?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Absolutely not. They come from the factory meant to do exactly that.

@Ray-kg9gq 10 ай бұрын

Is this bad for the timing chain and the torque?

@VancityAudi 10 ай бұрын

They wouldn't offer launch control in the vehicle if it was bad for it. It came from the factory with this option. Now, does it cause additional strain to many of your car's components? Of course.

@MeOrMeOrMeOrSomething 4 ай бұрын

How do you get to S1? I’ve only gotten M1

@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

I believe it turned on when I flashed my TCU.

@MeOrMeOrMeOrSomething 4 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi I currently have Stage 1 IE tune, would that come out at Stage 2 TCU tune?

@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

@MeOrMeOrMeOrSomething you have an ECU & TCU tune or just the ECU? If you have both tuned and it still doesn't show, you can activate it via VCDS I believe.

@MeOrMeOrMeOrSomething 4 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi I currently have both ECU and TCU at stage 1.

@lotusmanb3832 Жыл бұрын

So there is no launch control on these years of the 5S . That sucks. I feel this would eventually damage the drivetrain.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

It won't. Like myself, there are people and companies that have launched their cars hundreds of times with no damage to the drivetrain. Axles have let go at higher torque levels, but that should be expected when you are doubling the hp from the factory.

@stefanomarcellino6701 Жыл бұрын

Whats weird is you cant break boost these cars from a roll. At least mine doesn’t let me

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain that some tuners have already unlocked that feature or are atleast working on it.

@stefanomarcellino6701 Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi when are you hitting the track? Too cold im assuming? Im excited to see what the S4 can do now

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@@stefanomarcellino6701 track doesn't open until April

@ShebanFPV Жыл бұрын

Stage 2, stock brake pads and brake lines, sometimes car creeps forward. Guess the solution is to upgrade the above )))

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Incorrect. People who have upgraded both of those parts are still suffering from this issue. It might help a little, but it still sometimes doesn't hold the car in place with a single press of the brake pedal.

@ShebanFPV Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi ))) I forgot to mention that I was describing my situation 😅

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@Sheban so you're going to upgrade your pads & lines and see if it improves your situation? Or you have already and it helped?

@ShebanFPV Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi I am planing to get it done at some point, still plenty left, got only 15k miles of run. I H8 stock pads, mediocre braking and tons of dust :((