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How To Farm The Spores For Your Homemade Tempeh Starter

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Francius Suwono

Francius Suwono

Күн бұрын

If you follow my video on making your own tempeh starter you will recall the 4 steps: spore farming, harvesting, thinning, and testing. Among these four steps, one step is extremely critical: spore farming. Some had reported failure to grow black or grey spores and have failed to produce potent tempeh starters. In this video, I want to share with you how to produce healthy spores for your tempeh starter. It is a very simple trick you can copy easily.

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@svpalnitkar
@svpalnitkar 2 жыл бұрын
Francius of all the videos I had seen about making Tempeh starter, yours is the most elaborate and better way of doing it. I was able to get the white fuzzy mycelium to cover the rice container, but even after day 3 there were no black spots. Somehow there was condensation on the top of the fuzz after day 3 and I was afraid it would ruin everything. So I ended up drying the rice cake. I went ahead and made a starter by grinding the completely dry rice cake and added rice flour to it. I inoculated another bowl of rice and some black eyed peas with this starter. And to my delight the rice developed similar fuzz (no black spores again) and the black eyed peas transformed/ fermented into tempeh too. Thank you.
@francius1003
@francius1003 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Shailesh! Thank you for your comment! Sometimes black spots don't show up, but you still get spores at least from the grayish mycelium. What you need to do with such a result is to increase your starter dose as necessary. There are still spores, maybe not as much as when the spore farming produces black spots, as you can see you can make your black-eye beans tempeh. Don't get discouraged, follow the steps on spore farming in this video hopefully you'll get black spots! Francius
@ednacassal2986
@ednacassal2986 2 жыл бұрын
I used two glass pyrex (container), one big and one small. The big one was all black. The smaller container was white and foamy. I mixed it all up after it dried.
@francius1003
@francius1003 2 жыл бұрын
Even the white one still has some spores, so your step of mixing them is correct. You will know the strength of your homemade starter after testing. First, try 1tsp over 300 grams raw soybeans. After 36 hrs you may decide to increase or decrease the dose. Good luck, Edna! Keep me posted! Francius
@MicsLanguages
@MicsLanguages Жыл бұрын
You are amazing Francius, thanks a lot!
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please share the channel with the tempeh community so many will benefit. If you still have any questions please let me know. Francius
@ednacassal2986
@ednacassal2986 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I loved. Thanks!
@francius1003
@francius1003 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, Edna!
@wildlifegardenssydney7492
@wildlifegardenssydney7492 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic detailed information and instructions. Thank you very much.
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, there! Thank you so much for your comment. Please share the channel so many will benefit. Francius
@fun3721
@fun3721 Жыл бұрын
Francius, thanks for the video. I am new to tempeh making. Will spore farming a try. Keep you posted.
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Good luck on your tempeh adventure! It's fun and satisfying. Anything you need is here in this channel. If you still have questions just let me know! Francius.
@fun3721
@fun3721 Жыл бұрын
@@francius1003 Thanks a lot. I greatly appreciate your willingness to share and answer questions. I will be making my batch over the weekend. I will surely update you on the outcome. Thanks again !
@sarah64725
@sarah64725 Ай бұрын
Thanks Francius for the great content. Just so that I understand correctly, did I get this right?: 1. First incubate the “rice tempeh” for 72 hours, using a damp kitchen towel as a lid. 2. Then let the rice tempeh dry in the incubator for another 72 hours, without any towel or lid. 3. Dehydrate. 4. Grind the dry rice tempeh, sift and then store.
@francius1003
@francius1003 Ай бұрын
Hi Sarah! You are right! Don't forget you only grind when the rice tempeh is completely dry! After shift you add the roasted flour to the ratio of 1:3. Francius
@sarah64725
@sarah64725 Ай бұрын
@@francius1003 thank you so much! I will give it a go 😊
@keto-rl2ce
@keto-rl2ce Жыл бұрын
I’m about to try my very first attempt at homemade tempeh. Your video is very detailed! My question is if it’s necessary to keep the spores dry, why should the kitchen towel be damp?
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, there! To keep dry doesn't mean no humidity. Mycelium need humidity to grow, but not wet. The damp towel is good to catch the condensation and keep the humidity.
@fassphoto
@fassphoto 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very very much for sharing. ❤❤❤
@francius1003
@francius1003 10 ай бұрын
You are very much welcome! If you still have any questions please let me know. Please share this channel so tempeh will be known and enjoyed by everyone! Francius
@esthermariafernandez8140
@esthermariafernandez8140 Жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por compartir esta información. Ahora debo averiguar cómo hacer la incubadora.
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Sigue mi vídeo sobre cómo hacer una incubadora.
@carltrummer9103
@carltrummer9103 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interesting video. 👍
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Carl! It's my pleasure to share knowledge about tempeh. If you still have any questions please let me know! Francius
@carltrummer9103
@carltrummer9103 Жыл бұрын
@@francius1003 Thank you Francis. 👍⭐⭐⭐
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 Жыл бұрын
dont worry guys...even if yo failed at making the starter and your tempeh became black...you can still eat it...nobody ever died from eating tempeh ...yet xd. i even eaten spoiled one that the tempeh has melted and it taste like cheese mixed with mushroom!!
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
The super ripe tempeh (tempe bosok) is a delicacy in Indonesia. People make lodeh soup with it.
@neoterra7072
@neoterra7072 Жыл бұрын
Hi Francius, I'm curious as to why one roasts the rice four? I haven't been doing that and my starter seems to work really well. Thanks, Steffan
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Steffan! The main reason is to kill any unwanted bacteria in the raw flour. The second reason is to give a 'cooked' environment for fermentation. You know you cannot ferment uncooked beans or grain. Your starter still works fine because the amount is so little. But staying with the normal process of roasting the flour is good. Francius
@neoterra7072
@neoterra7072 Жыл бұрын
@@francius1003 Thanks for the explanation! I'll lightly roast the rice flour from now on.
@ednacassal2986
@ednacassal2986 4 ай бұрын
Dear friend. This preparation is no longer working. Currently, at the end of the starter drying process, there are yellow spots on the bottom or in the middle. Above it is normal gray. I can even make tasty tempeh! What could have happened to the starter? Please help me. These yellow spots bother me. Thank you, I love your channel!
@francius1003
@francius1003 4 ай бұрын
Drying needs to be quick, no more than 2 days, in a 100F/40C. If too long the tempeh will be spoiled. That's why you should spread the tempeh to make it thin, not thick tempeh.
@ednacassal2986
@ednacassal2986 4 ай бұрын
Gratitude for everything ❤
@channelldaniels594
@channelldaniels594 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@francius1003
@francius1003 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-bw1hk2eu2d
@user-bw1hk2eu2d Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the tips!With ur info I'm so encouraged and finally made my first batch of tempeh starter! I fermented it with oven light. After 70 hours the top was fluffy and grey, but the spores didn't penatrate throughout the whole cake. The texture and bottom are white and firm, bottom I also fluffy. The whole cake tastes a bit sweet, a bit sour, a bit aromatic and a little bit alcoholic. Now it's been dehydrated at room temperature( because of in the oven might be too little air flow? ). Hope it works too.
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
It looks OK. Taste and smell is specific rice cake. Spores usually grow on top, that's why you should spread it thin. You need a higher temperature than room temperature. If you have sun do sundry. If not, use the oven or anything hotter. You need 35-39C or 90-100F, not room temperature. If the temperature is low your cake will be spoiled, instead of getting dry. Let me know the result. Good luck!
@user-bw1hk2eu2d
@user-bw1hk2eu2d Жыл бұрын
​@@francius1003 Thanks to u, my tempeh starter looks very well made! And tomorrow I'm going to test it with chickpeas!What is the ratio of it to the raw checkpeas and shall I add more rice flour for a better incubation?
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Chickpeas are not good beans/peas to make a test because of their big size unless you crush them first to get smaller chunks. Soybeans are the best. Francius
@user-bw1hk2eu2d
@user-bw1hk2eu2d Жыл бұрын
@@francius1003 It turned out great!Can't wait to share with u!Thank u!!
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Send me your picture to fsuwono@gmail.com. You are now a self sufficient tempeh producer. I am glad to hear your progress! Francius
@AyalaK1
@AyalaK1 Жыл бұрын
Hello Francius, and thank you for this video! After I grind and sieve the tempeh- I get a powder, and on top of the sieve- the larger particles. Can I use the larger particles as a starter? And- Can I keep the starter in the freezer for a few months? thanks!
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, there! The larger particle doesn't contain spores. It may be the rice only and no spore, so don't use it, just throw it away. Fraancius
@TheMasterwo
@TheMasterwo 7 ай бұрын
What’s the purpose of roasting the rice flour? …And can you use any type of flour?
@francius1003
@francius1003 7 ай бұрын
Hi, there! Roasting sterilize the flour. Alternatively, you can use tapioca flour. Don't use glutinous rice flour. Francius
@robperret6338
@robperret6338 11 ай бұрын
Francius, I made some tempeh starter in May 2021 and I had enough for two mason jars. I put one in the freezer and one in the fridge. I’ve been using the tempeh starter from the fridge these last two years making wonderful tempeh. Since I’m running low I decided to use the one from the freezer. I brought it to room temperature but when I mixed with the beans, as usual, it just didn’t feel right. I added five tsp of starter to 1,800 grams of cooked beans. I proceeded to make my tempeh but after the process the tempeh had some areas that didn’t take. So my question is, how long does tempeh starter last in the freezer and fridge. So now I’m in the process of making a new batch of tempeh starter and I have question about “ drying the rice cake”. Since the mycelium is already formed at 31°C, is there an issue of increasing the incubator temperature to 40°C, making the incubator act like a dehydrator? As always you are the tempeh guru 👍. Rob
@francius1003
@francius1003 11 ай бұрын
Hi, Rob. After 2 years the tempeh starter power drops to 50%. You can still use the old starter by doubling or tripling the dose, you will get the same result. Don't throw the old starter away, just add new spores you are making now. Use the old starter as the thinner rice flour, you will get an even stronger starter. You can use your incubator as the dehydrator, no need to change the setting. Follow the tutorial video. A temperature of 31C for 3 days will dry it up. Francius
@robperret6338
@robperret6338 11 ай бұрын
Thanks again for your wisdom.
@robperret6338
@robperret6338 11 ай бұрын
Francius, could you clarify something that I have a question on. It shows on frame (06:15) that “you will remove the cloth after 72 hrs of incubation; when you already get black spores”. Then you show checks at 24 hrs, 36 hrs, and 48 hrs. At this point, frame (07:19) you “remove the cover to let your tempeh dry in the next 72 hrs. Do I remove the cloth at 72 hrs (3 days) not after the 48 hr check? Then I leave it uncovered for the next 72 hrs (3 days). I just need it clarified so I’ll get the best tempeh starter. Thanks again, Rob😮😢
@francius1003
@francius1003 11 ай бұрын
Remove the cloth cover when it's time to dry. It can happen between 48-72 hrs of incubation depends on individual situation. In short, dry your rice tempeh when you get enough grey or black spots. Francius
@robperret6338
@robperret6338 11 ай бұрын
Some clarification please. For the first 72 hours I was able to grow my mycelium with dark spores. I removed the cloth and I’m now in 42 hrs out of 72 hrs (3 days). After the 3 days of drying, do I need to dry it for an additional 3 days, breaking it up into smaller pieces?
@nguyenphuongnga2203
@nguyenphuongnga2203 Жыл бұрын
Can I give you a question? If temperature is about 36 degree Celsius, will tempeh starter fail?
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Nguyen. Tempeh fermentation needs 31C (88F) optimum. It can stand a little low or high for a while, but 36C is a bit high. In the room you can put your tempeh in a shade or at cooler spots. Francius
@nguyenphuongnga2203
@nguyenphuongnga2203 Жыл бұрын
@@francius1003 thanks so much
@cydeYT
@cydeYT Жыл бұрын
Can the starter get too heated in the grinder and get the starter damaged?
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, there! It's unlikely that you grinder will overheat your tempeh starter. Normal working grinder will barely make 38C. Your starter can reach more than 40C when you dry it. Francius
@Florian_Ionescu
@Florian_Ionescu 7 ай бұрын
At the end, how important it is to mix it with rice flour? Can I mix it with another type of flour?
@francius1003
@francius1003 7 ай бұрын
Tapioca flour works as well.
@Florian_Ionescu
@Florian_Ionescu 7 ай бұрын
what about wheat flour? @@francius1003
@gracececilia1212
@gracececilia1212 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, I’ve been following ur step and ended with white flood. Does it mean it is a fail or I can do something about it..?
@francius1003
@francius1003 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Grace! Don't stop. Keep going until you see the mycelium grows and produce black or grey spores. Maybe you need to make the damp cloth a little dryer (not too wet) so it can absorb the moisture better and leave a nice dry spores farm. Keep trying! Francius
@sussielow
@sussielow 5 ай бұрын
Hi Pak Francius, Saya tidak punya Stock tepung Beras,Hanya tepung beras ketan. apakah bisa saya ganti dengan tepung beras ketan?? Di lokal supermarket,saya hanya menemukan,kedelai starch,corn Starch ,kentang starch. Salam dari Germany
@francius1003
@francius1003 5 ай бұрын
Corn starch bisa dipakai.
@sussielow
@sussielow 5 ай бұрын
Makasiii Pak Francius,saya akan pakai Corn Starch banyak di jual di sini,saya cari tepung beras kemana-mana tidak ada,soalnya saya tinggal di kota kecil. Harus di sangrai juga kah?? Salam
@francius1003
@francius1003 5 ай бұрын
Sangrai buat sterilisasi. Good luck!
@sussielow
@sussielow 5 ай бұрын
@@francius1003terima kasih Pak Francius,saya tinggal ke step terakhir yaitu “testing “ seberapa strong ragi tempe buatan rumahan buatan sendiri. Malam ini saya akan rendam kedelai. Salam🙏🏾
@francius1003
@francius1003 5 ай бұрын
@@sussielow Good luck! Let me know and share the videos!
@plshiok
@plshiok 2 жыл бұрын
where or how to make the incubator?
@francius1003
@francius1003 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, check my other video on making an incubator kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7N3Y5CXnp3MqKs.html, and any other related videos. Good luck
@majedasweedan3933
@majedasweedan3933 2 жыл бұрын
Well . I did it . Thanks for your channel . But when i grinded it plenty of feather... compared to grinded brown rice ... it it ok . And pls i neef to send you photos. May i have your e-mail address . Thanks in advance . I am from jordan .
@francius1003
@francius1003 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Majeda! I am glad to hear your success story! The feathery thing is not a problem at all. Send me your pictures. My email is fsuwono@gmail.com. It is in the channel homepage, actually!
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