How To Fill Hinge Slots (Mortises)

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The Honest Carpenter

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Hinge slots--or "mortises"--are unsightly gaps left behind when doors are removed from doorways. This video from The Honest Carpenter will show you how to fill in hinge slots so well that they disappear!
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Tools:
Utility Knife (Stanley)
Brad Nailer (Rigid)
Sandpaper
Table Saw (Dewalt) OPTIONAL
Caulking Gun
Materials:
Scrap Wood
Wood Filler (Plastic Wood)
Caulk
Wood Glue (Titebond 2)
Brad Nails
Paint
How-To:
1) Cut test pieces by either sanding down paint stirrers, or ripping down scrap lumber to a custom thickness.
2) When thickness is determined, cut custom filler pieces to fit hinge mortises.
3) If mortises have rounded corners, cut "dog ears" on the corners of your filler pieces.
3) Glue filler pieces into place, being sure to keep front edge aligned with front of jamb (flush).
4) Consider shooting pieces into place with a few short brad nails (5/8")
5) Fill gaps around pieces with "Plastic Wood" wood filler. Allow approx. 15 minutes to dry.
6) Sand down wood filler with 120 or 180 grit sandpaper.
7) Caulk seam between new pieces and jamb. Tool caulk to blend in with the rest of the seam. Let caulk dry.
8) Add one coat of paint or primer, or paint-plus-primer. This will help reveal imperfections.
9) Consider repeating steps until hinge slots completely disappear.
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@blitchin
@blitchin 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed. We are replacing double doors to our bathroom with a sliding barn door and this was the issue I need fixed. Thanks Honest Carpenter!
@aprilbaker6103
@aprilbaker6103 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and i love it. You are one of my top go to's for how to videos. Also, you seem like a really nice guy. Thanks for sharing all you know with us!
@markbennett1237
@markbennett1237 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a door shop. We used auto body filler. It did a great job, and is easy to do: 1. Put a piece of masking tape along the door jamb edge to dam up the open edge of the hole. 2. Fill the hole with auto body filler (We used Bondo). Over fill the hole. Don't try to make it level. 3. After the auto body filler has hardened (but before it is completely hard), use a sheetrock rasp to remove excess body filler, but don't try to make it perfect. Leave just a little extra to sand down later. Skip this step if you don't have a rasp. 4. Sand the auto body filler to smooth it out. 5. Paint
@jessicacallahan9711
@jessicacallahan9711 3 жыл бұрын
Agree bondo is the way to go
@doctormorbius6430
@doctormorbius6430 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicacallahan9711 Durham's Water Putty gives you even better results in terms of texture, but the technique is spot on.
@acampbe75
@acampbe75 3 жыл бұрын
Bondo is not a good idea. It doesn't expand and contract with the wood and can crack over time with expansion/contraction
@markbennett1237
@markbennett1237 3 жыл бұрын
@@acampbe75 I’m not sure. You may have a point, but I have never heard any complaints about it cracking. By the time we finished sanding, there is only a little bit of bondo left. And a lot of it may get routed away if the new hinge location overlaps.
@alext8828
@alext8828 3 жыл бұрын
@@acampbe75 You are correct. Ask me how I know.
@bernarddouthit4647
@bernarddouthit4647 2 жыл бұрын
Ethan - I've watched a bunch of your newer videos so it's a nice contrast to see one of your slightly older ones. I've been thinking about your video about carpenters being underpaid and that the amount of skill, creativity, and problem-solving in carpentry is equal to or greater than many white-collar jobs. I wouldn't be surprised to see carpentry and other skilled crafts make a huge comeback in the next ten to twenty years - and become as prestigious. A carpenter is part problem solver, part craftsman and part artist.
@J0rd4nBr0
@J0rd4nBr0 4 жыл бұрын
Been building in NZ for 5 years, and have always just bogged and sanded these. This is a game changer, thank you
@joes2318
@joes2318 3 жыл бұрын
Bog and sanding is so much quicker.
@AlexCarlberg
@AlexCarlberg 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the way you explain things. Your DIY home improvement videos are excellent.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alex!
@stephenstafford7995
@stephenstafford7995 2 жыл бұрын
It is A LOT LESS labor intensive to: 1. Square off the mortises with a chisel 2. Use a paint stirrer for the dutchman at its original thickness 3. Block plane the dutchman down to the exact thickness after the glue has dried
@joshymcdaniel9233
@joshymcdaniel9233 Жыл бұрын
I saw many people say use the paint stick so I went and got some from Homedepot and Menards’ Both are a bit wider (right to left) than my mortises…. Any thoughts…? Also if I glue a Dutchman onto a veneer particle board door jamb would it even be strong enough to fill / glue then re mortise….? Or although extra work is it going to be better to pull whole jamb and replace the jamb on hinge side…?
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Жыл бұрын
@@joshymcdaniel9233 As he said above. Plane them down after the glue has dried.
@tomtarantelli1829
@tomtarantelli1829 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I have one door to do, I was thinking of removing the wood jamb door stop molding as well.
@HealerWarrior
@HealerWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
My family and I just bought a house and I’m loving your videos to help me with some small fixes and projects. Thank you! While watching a boatload of the videos, I’m thinking to myself, you could of called yourself the “One Handed Carpenter.” 😉😆 Thanks again for the great videos!
@mikekalish6796
@mikekalish6796 2 жыл бұрын
I cut up a couple paint stirrers and used them for "dutchmen", and followed your directions from there. Worked great! (I did have to take a little more material out of the mortise, but not a big deal)
@Katie-ki5be
@Katie-ki5be 4 жыл бұрын
I am about to do this exact job. I was planning to use a paint stirrer since I don't have a circular saw. I also don't have a nail gun so was planning to just use little nails. Thanks for the info!! I will go get the plastic wood and should be all set now.
@georgiafan6618
@georgiafan6618 4 жыл бұрын
Great video - I have to do a doorway today. Dewalt has that great rack and pinion fence makes this a breeze. 👍 Thanks
@sheilamontoya5546
@sheilamontoya5546 4 жыл бұрын
Super cool 💡 thanks. I love the little shortcut tips
@MM-pw3wb
@MM-pw3wb 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, All of us diy-ers need one of you!! 💕👍😊
@edover50
@edover50 5 жыл бұрын
Nice results!
@Pallidus_Rider
@Pallidus_Rider 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I had removed an old and crusty screen door from porch. I found your video as it is next step in my project. However, I am thinking of using old hinge as template to cut out wood material for fill. 🤔😲
@aliismail4470
@aliismail4470 3 жыл бұрын
Just in time for I am doing new doors this weekend. Thanks.
@slomano
@slomano 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this easy for someone inexperienced to follow.
@Metqa
@Metqa 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos!
@josephnorcalusa1710
@josephnorcalusa1710 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful information, thank you for sharing !
@overcomer4226
@overcomer4226 3 жыл бұрын
This was deeply satisfying
@lesliecruzado2793
@lesliecruzado2793 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I have OCD or if I'm a perfectionist (maybe both) but I would've taken the hinge you removed and used it as a guide to cut the filler pieces. Then it was just a matter of gluing those suckers right in.
@renegadewa4183
@renegadewa4183 5 жыл бұрын
Good job.......................very professionally done!!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Renegade! 😄
@dapawa
@dapawa 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice job, I’m very proud of you
@stevendelcolliano4377
@stevendelcolliano4377 3 жыл бұрын
I remove the old door stop as well. just makes it look like it was always a t-o
@MM-pw3wb
@MM-pw3wb 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@brwammack1
@brwammack1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Nice work brother.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, Brent! Thanks for watching!
@brandonwatts7083
@brandonwatts7083 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Well done.
@charronfamilyconnect
@charronfamilyconnect 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Could I not use liquid wood filler in place of the plastic wood? Thanks!
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 3 жыл бұрын
All of the molding in my home is natural stained walnut. After removing a hallway door I had a strike plate and 2 hinge mortises to fill, the paint stick works for my application the best.
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks.
@ProjectWoke
@ProjectWoke 3 жыл бұрын
Finally Someone good from my RTP t
@herbertcumming2080
@herbertcumming2080 4 жыл бұрын
Great help. Thanks
@robertcheung7399
@robertcheung7399 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you been searching for this diy for an hour
@thomassawyer6523
@thomassawyer6523 2 жыл бұрын
I need to do the same - and your video sure helps. TY Subscribed
@m.campbell2776
@m.campbell2776 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@Cantcoverdiggs
@Cantcoverdiggs 3 жыл бұрын
Sooooo helpful thank you
@arnoldolorenzo3474
@arnoldolorenzo3474 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Seems inconsequential but I’ve come actress this many times. Thanks!
@dougdavis2973
@dougdavis2973 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’d have used the actual hinge for a template and also removed the door stops!
@rossclark9155
@rossclark9155 3 жыл бұрын
I use contour tools for those types of the situations.
@matthewsheets7188
@matthewsheets7188 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@homegrownluv8106
@homegrownluv8106 2 жыл бұрын
I think most people use shims or paint mixers because not everyone has a table saw or other tools needed. Great video.
@booth9553
@booth9553 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. When you have to replace the door pull on a pocket door and the replacement door pull is smaller than the original door pull; how to you remedy the situation you now have in that the hollowed out part of the door is showing? What do you do to fill in that space?
@marcelinoramos4580
@marcelinoramos4580 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@marilynm464
@marilynm464 4 жыл бұрын
You put the paint can on the finished shelf? Or was it all going to be repainted? Otherwise, excellent.
@joannedavies6183
@joannedavies6183 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Great video. Would it be possible to put a new hinge on top of this? Context: My super old doors have huge hinges on them and I feel like if I move them lower the hinge will be too low. The cut that the current hinge was sitting in is so messed up and I’ve tried filling it with putty and stuff but the door ends up coming off. Trying to think of a way of supporting the current hinge slot if at all possible. Thanks.
@doconnor1354
@doconnor1354 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting way to conquer the dreaded mortises after removing a door. Thanks.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis, sure thing! I’ve got it down to where I can knock it out in about an hour 🙂
@richardbullough7269
@richardbullough7269 3 жыл бұрын
Just square of corner fill with wood glue with spray and stick dress off no filler .also don't bite your nails !
@alwayssearching1882
@alwayssearching1882 Жыл бұрын
I trace the hinge over the repair patch and utility knife cut it. I leave the edges of the patch angled so that the wood filler easily fills the gap. Sometimes I chisel out the round edges of the jamb and square patch it.
@jonathanstephens6949
@jonathanstephens6949 2 жыл бұрын
As you've nailed them in, would this mean you're unable to create new spaces for new hinges? Thank you
@konstantinusstoyanov9749
@konstantinusstoyanov9749 4 жыл бұрын
You are awesome, thank you
@carlb1409
@carlb1409 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video. Wish I knew this years ago. Any ideas on filling in around a hinge/hole that was cut too big? Maybe a bead of caulk smoothed and painted?
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Жыл бұрын
Really? After watching this video you want to use caulking? How about the wood filler he used in the video? Is no one capable of using their brains anymore?
@leeburnley
@leeburnley 2 жыл бұрын
I use this trick occasionally, the only difference is I use a 23 gauge pin nailer.
@smartbraininternational7138
@smartbraininternational7138 3 жыл бұрын
What gauge are the nails you shot in? Would a 23 gauge pin nailer work? I'm assuming probably not since there is no head on them.
@cmarcrum25
@cmarcrum25 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's what I was looking for. But can you remove the door stop without replacing jam?
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Only if it’s a separate piece! On some prefab split jamb doors, it’s sort of built-in 😬
@dougc78
@dougc78 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Get a camera/phone tripod so you don’t have to do everything one handed. As a viewer I find myself talking to the video saying, “Put the damn phone down and just grab it with your other hand!”. 😂
@davidreynolds4684
@davidreynolds4684 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just trace the hinge so youve got less to fill in later? In this case looks like 5/8 radius. You were right about the plastic wood drying fast. Ive used it for years but last week i used a full can. I swear it was drying way faster than ive ever seen it. It was almost too fast. Started skimming over immediately and trying to stuck to the surface and putty knife before i got it smoothed out. Good idea on the hinge fill.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Жыл бұрын
add water
@thenolartist
@thenolartist 2 жыл бұрын
@Honest Carpenter Approximately, how much would repairman charge to repair right opening bedroom closet door to open left, near adjacent wall, please? Thanks in advance.
@rodneyhammon1793
@rodneyhammon1793 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!…
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, Rodney!
@billsedutto8824
@billsedutto8824 3 жыл бұрын
Who else noticed he did this entire repair job one handed? Wow
@brento4148
@brento4148 Ай бұрын
Great guide, you said "go ahead" 62 times
@jff119
@jff119 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of glue was that you used to secure the Dutchmen? Typon 2?? Thanks!
@kll815
@kll815 3 жыл бұрын
Titebond II
@PeterMaddison2483
@PeterMaddison2483 3 жыл бұрын
@THC - You need to get yourself a GoPro & a headstrap or something. I bet doing things one-handed is a pain.
@DJaquithFL
@DJaquithFL 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to square those corners of the door hinges first with a flat chisel? Otherwise it's a great video.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
@D Jaquith Thank you! Squaring up would definitely reduce some of the wood filler application. You'd maybe still need some just to hide the seam, but not too much
@cancer2361964
@cancer2361964 3 жыл бұрын
What length screw do you use to attach the hinges to the lining and door
@DJaquithFL
@DJaquithFL 3 жыл бұрын
@@cancer2361964 .. There's no standard length or size it all depends upon the door. However most doors hinges are one inch in length.
@Toilet_Sniper
@Toilet_Sniper 3 жыл бұрын
I've got to move a door and make good on the old hinge motices, and was thinking exactly the same! A sharp chisel wood do the job.
@SuperYourAcceptance
@SuperYourAcceptance 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter You had the old hinges. Why didn't you trace them onto your dutchmen?
@lesmatthews6684
@lesmatthews6684 3 жыл бұрын
When I was working square off hardly any filler needed lot easier
@drochon6672
@drochon6672 5 жыл бұрын
If you can do this with one hand, surely I could do it using both of mine.......with a little help from my friends.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis! 😂 Filming while working is a challenge, but a rewarding one. Good luck with the project!
@PolarIre
@PolarIre 2 жыл бұрын
Filling bradly nail holes.. Get putty on thumb press onto hole.. after pressing curl thumb and excess gets lifted by end of thumb. Might need cloth to wipe off excess. Always wear safety glasses when operating a brad nailer.. those nails can ricochet in weird ways around obstacles... one even bounced backwards once. If nail goes all the way through a board it can hit behind and curl flying around the room. Turn cap backwards Safety glasses Mechanic smooth gloves
@karenmilloy2107
@karenmilloy2107 4 жыл бұрын
what if you are just a homeowner that does not have a table saw and are not able to cut the filler pieces. Is there some other way to do fill and hide the striker plate holes
@jaybone59
@jaybone59 4 жыл бұрын
You could use a two part epoxy to trowel into the mortise, then sand and paint
@DeadEyeRabbit
@DeadEyeRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
45 min light weight drywall mud.
@saral161
@saral161 Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@UltPred
@UltPred 3 жыл бұрын
Take painters tape and make a template then put it on it cut.
@Saturnfart
@Saturnfart 3 жыл бұрын
So do the brad nails prevent the thin veneer from warping?
@yeahyeah4244
@yeahyeah4244 3 ай бұрын
Nails hold it in place until the glue cures
@ErgonBill
@ErgonBill 3 жыл бұрын
Aussie carpenters: 'Meh! The painter will fix it.'
@BurtBowers
@BurtBowers 5 жыл бұрын
I use straight wood putty you apply with putty knife come back next day sand it smooth then paint much easier & yet a professional look..
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Old Timer I’ve also done full full-ins with epoxy and such things. Only problem is sheer amount of sanding dust created. For 8 mortises (including upper catch strikes) like this doorway, you wind up with a lot of airborne particulate, which always makes clients uncomfortable. I like Dutchmen in this case because they cut down on overall sanding required
@BurtBowers
@BurtBowers 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter yes i know on my project have to re drill holes glue some dowel rods insert in holes then re drill again pilot holes for the hinges, previous owners jerry rigged the jam driving screws in at 45° & he brought hinge plates down 1" so i really dont need to do the whole length of the hinge though just to backside edge of wood jam is cracked which i have to reglue then apply wood putty in remaining crack seems then sand & paint. Much work corrected lot of the previous owner shoe maker mistakes.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Old Timer Ah gotcha. Yah that makes perfect sense. Smaller controlled areas like that are much faster and easier to fill in your way
@BurtBowers
@BurtBowers 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter yes not only i have to deal with the hinge side of door to repair the opposite side the owner had 3 holes drilled into the jam appearantly he had 3 door lock knobs on one door & the trim has 4" regular wood nails driven into them so it is going to be a total replacement of trim & reworking everything on the jam with even a 4" long deep square hole into the plaster. I am going to paint everything white semi gloss over original stained wood do you use brush on everything or roller on some parts i was thinking good brush on everything being rollers give a textured look & on the other hand brushes can leave brush strokes within the paint.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
@@BurtBowers What was this person thinking?! Nothing drives me crazier than unnecessarily long trim nails. I'd say you've got the right idea--pull the casings and start fresh. Just too much damage done to that current setup. Good luck with the project!
@Great-Santini
@Great-Santini 3 жыл бұрын
Bondo 👍
@albertnava02
@albertnava02 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure this is Johnny Lawerence. No mercy for the weak!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын
I time travelled about 15 years 🥋
@magdump7380
@magdump7380 3 жыл бұрын
Get a body bag!
@bintwang
@bintwang 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, he really looks like the guy in cobra kai
@pamelasheridan2178
@pamelasheridan2178 4 жыл бұрын
My husband is adamant about just replacing the door frame. Other than cost, why is this method preferred?
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 3 жыл бұрын
If your husband is doing the work and doesn't mind the cost then more power to him.
@hudsonsoul1121
@hudsonsoul1121 3 жыл бұрын
Blimey that's much more work, cost and potentially more damage around the frame to make good.
@stephanieb6102
@stephanieb6102 4 жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to close these? I have to do this for a client and I am calculating labor hours.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
Stephanie B There were 8 in this doorway (including top strike plates). If I’m set up, I can usually do that in 4-6 hours 🤔
@stephanieb6102
@stephanieb6102 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter Perfect! Thank you. So helpful.
@turboflush
@turboflush 3 жыл бұрын
That plastic putty is no good after storage. So use it within a week after opening. Good stuff though. I have something i add water to. Works good.
@disklamer
@disklamer 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dutchman, I approve, but I rip pieces of plywood with a hand saw, just follow the layer grain.
@lestagez
@lestagez 3 жыл бұрын
doing the most, slap some wood putty and sand, works beautifully
@Ducatista10
@Ducatista10 Ай бұрын
Should have removed the door stop also for a flat jamb since there will no longer be a door there
@TheWindyweather
@TheWindyweather 3 жыл бұрын
why not make a paper pattern and cut them to the right shape. Sure you can fill. but why so much?
@adamcramm
@adamcramm 3 жыл бұрын
Or just chisel the mortise corners square.
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the toilet in my parents' place that they had built in '52. The door hit the pan when it was later fitted so had to be changed to open outwards and the mortices filled. You could still see faint evidence when the place was sold 50+ years later.
@jimzeleny7213
@jimzeleny7213 3 жыл бұрын
Why not radius the corners of your patch? Then you wouldn't need to use crack filler.
@Zander7.5
@Zander7.5 Жыл бұрын
Wood filler and sand level, for me. Job done! LOL..
@petero2693
@petero2693 3 жыл бұрын
Durham rock hard putty done.. still invisible 15 years later . Fast easy done..next
@yeahyeah4244
@yeahyeah4244 3 ай бұрын
Soooo you’re saying my plans to fill it in with wood filler is a bad idea? 😬
@arturskobodzinski6929
@arturskobodzinski6929 4 жыл бұрын
Artur’s Fix It All. Handyman services Raleigh NC.🙏
@mim2046
@mim2046 3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t you take a hinge, trace a line around it and then cut? That way you would have even less to fill. Also, you should have used automotive Bondo, because it doesn’t shrink like that wood filler u used.
@hinekukuruzsnyak3438
@hinekukuruzsnyak3438 3 жыл бұрын
No got tired listening to this after minute better solutions in the comments.
@MegaNayaaz
@MegaNayaaz 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a bad fix. you should cut the Door Jamb to fit the patch and not the patch to fit the Door Jamb. Use a Chisel to square the hole next time. TOH tips
@jakee8704
@jakee8704 8 ай бұрын
If it’s painted I just use wood bondo😂
@b0n3z90
@b0n3z90 3 жыл бұрын
Or just get good with bondo
@Garry_jad
@Garry_jad Жыл бұрын
Cowboy of a job.
@mjdamato
@mjdamato 3 жыл бұрын
1:23 "I stop when I've just gone in a couple inches" Women hate that.
@andrewmorke
@andrewmorke 3 жыл бұрын
Plastic wood is awful. It shrinks. I prefer Durhams.
@joevaldivia6733
@joevaldivia6733 2 жыл бұрын
Why the dog ears why not make them perfectly round?
@johndegraw1220
@johndegraw1220 3 жыл бұрын
I drink too much to use a table saw... So id have to use that smelly putty. Exterior putty in the black and orange can.. Then in 10 yrs it cracks
@donkeykong516
@donkeykong516 Жыл бұрын
You can use any utility knife…lol
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 3 жыл бұрын
wood filler... god this is too much work
@shantahsieh2877
@shantahsieh2877 3 жыл бұрын
I will try to do it with Woodglut plans.
@stiffoneeye1344
@stiffoneeye1344 3 жыл бұрын
Putty and paint make a carpenter what he ain’t. Shameful.
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