How to filtrate sand from sugar the Dune way?

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Cube Chemistry

Cube Chemistry

20 күн бұрын

On the planet of Arrakis from the science fiction novel and movie Dune they harvest the the extremely valuable Spice Melange also known as The Spice. What process could be used to harvest the Spice from the sands of Arrakis?
In this video we are exploring a process that could be used to do this. Are the huge harvesters in the movie just giant filtration units? or is it something else. #Dune #filtration #sandfromsugar #Arrakis #cubetube #chemistry #scienceeducation #science #spice #Howtofiltrate
If you have questions leave them in the comments!
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@henkvanderklok
@henkvanderklok 18 күн бұрын
Everyone on the internet: "The spice must flow." Cube Chemistry: "Actually, the spice must drip."
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 18 күн бұрын
Haha yep it drips alright!!
@MalawisLilleKanal
@MalawisLilleKanal 16 күн бұрын
"I think easily accessible cinnamon who does not dissolve in water resembles spice pretty good, so let me demonstrate with sugar instead" ;-) Even with little water, they could use some kind of reflux if the spice is water soluble.
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 16 күн бұрын
I thought about doing a similar experiment with cinnamon but very unfortunately very quickly found out that it would then be a very different experiment.
@MrBarryyoung
@MrBarryyoung 17 күн бұрын
Hot water would provide a better if not near 100% yield. Water heating solar panels would cheaply provide the heat. The water shouldn't be too much of a problem since it could be easily condensed and recovered for reuse, and the cost of spice is more expensive. The heat from the sun to recrystallize would be cheap as well. Of course this all depends on the solubility of the spice (after looking online, it looks like water is hard to separate from spice). Different solvents could be cheaper/better.
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 16 күн бұрын
Very true!! What solvent would you suggest?
@nerdsunscripted624
@nerdsunscripted624 18 күн бұрын
Neat! Haven’t seen dune 2 yet, but being that water is so rare on Arakkis that spitting on someone is a gesture of politeness for giving them your moisture, I don’t think separating with water would be a good way would it? My first thought is to use spinning chambers of various hole sizes to filter out the very fine dust spice from the heavy grains of sand. From there you can sift in a vibrating bed to separate light particles from heavy particles. There’s steps from there for further refinement but truthfully it doesn’t seem that finer refinement from that is necessary for how they use it
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 17 күн бұрын
What a lovely answer. Yes i also do not think they would use water. The solution you propose sounds a lot better!!
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 17 күн бұрын
carefully calculated cyclonic filters... denser material will fall out first.
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 17 күн бұрын
Very creative thanks!
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 16 күн бұрын
@@CubeChemistry611 electrostatics is another one...
@omer1996d2
@omer1996d2 17 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it also be possible to use a mechanical process instead? If you assume spice has buoyancy in moving sand
@omer1996d2
@omer1996d2 17 күн бұрын
A centrifugal process could also be used if spice is denser/less dense than sand
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 17 күн бұрын
Yes that would definitely make sense!!
@juliandevries2835
@juliandevries2835 19 күн бұрын
Some spices are also water soluble. Can you reclaim those spices in the same way, or does this only work for sugar?
@infectedrainbow
@infectedrainbow 18 күн бұрын
This is the most basic chemical purification technique. It works on anything as long as you have the right solvents.
@CubeChemistry611
@CubeChemistry611 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for answering could not have said it better myself!!
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