How to Find Your Path After School | Amba Brown

How to Find Your Path After School | Amba Brown | TEDxYouth@AIS

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6 жыл бұрын

With so many choices, how can today’s graduates decide which path to take? Amba Brown discusses a new approach for navigating a happy life after school. Amba Brown is an Australian author, who holds a degree in psychology & sociology, with Honours in Positive Psychology. She is 31 years old, from Sydney, Australia, and has also lived in Asia and America. Her previous experience includes Psychological Investigations and employment at The Australian High Commission in Singapore before working as a full time author. Being the eldest of six siblings, Amba is passionate about alleviating youth anxieties. This passion resulted in the creation of the 'Finding Your Path’ book series, to support and inspire youth through their major life transitions; starting school, starting high school and finishing school. Aside from writing, Amba loves travelling, beach days and spending time with friends. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@jaideorade6406 4 жыл бұрын

not only that, high school doesn't even set you up for the real world. if you ask people who just graduated with me I 100% will tell you that 3 out of 4 people don't know how taxes work, or how to even get a loan. its so sad that they are so worried about you knowing ur history and science and stuff lol

@Remington-wl7jp 3 жыл бұрын

And truth be told they aren't even truly focused on the history and science part. Alot of public school graduates couldn't tell you anything about history besides slavery and MAYBE the revolutionary war. As much as the image of the "school is bad" rebellious teen has become a cliche, it really is the reality for most people that their education completely failed them.

@octaviosaldana8351 2 жыл бұрын

You have to take a certain class to learn about taxes but sheesh it is crazy how they don’t teach you it’s more of an elective

@Bidenlost2020 2 жыл бұрын

@@octaviosaldana8351 I didn't have taxes class. Oh well, when taxes come next year, I just have to figure it out!!!

@svnnev 2 жыл бұрын

@@Remington-wl7jp you are not going to wait for your school to tell public or private. you are the one who gonna educate your self there is books internet u can find what ever you like its sad that even private school won't teach you the reality of this world as well

@cjadventures8840 2 жыл бұрын

In America if you don’t take a tax class you don’t have to pay taxes 🤫

@somethingforyou345 4 жыл бұрын

i bet so many more people beside me felt so suicidal during the aftermath of graduation. Especially since my parent never really helped me develop my strengths and interest. Especially since i already had the mindset that i wouldnt reach this age

@petrabuckle 4 жыл бұрын

I feel the exact same your not alone

@prollyprada1104 4 жыл бұрын

Right on

@mariep4030 3 жыл бұрын

That's the stage I'm in right now...and I'm so scared I'll never get out of this depression and end up doing nothing at all.

@basiczachh3978 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah...same still do

@Jill4200 3 жыл бұрын

Same here I feel so Lost tbh

@thetrainer8174 6 жыл бұрын

Instead of telling and forcing children to choose the pre-decided paths, we should focus their problem-solving capabilities, we shoud teach them how to stand-up when they fall and teach them to keep trying and keep experiencing until they are successfull.We should teach them to create and innovate their roads and get inspired from those who did it with great success as well as with great failures.

@ruqayyakhalil4289 4 жыл бұрын

Kutlu Yildizhan SO TRUE!!!

@findingyourpathbooks9398 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more - it's all part of finding our path.

@kkrish_29 2 жыл бұрын

Faxxx

@miraclelove9388 2 жыл бұрын

Who's gonna teach them this ??

@bingoo2412 2 жыл бұрын

@@miraclelove9388 Parents, counselors, their role models (if they have one) background on how they became what they are today and other people that they can learn off from. Hope this answered your question?

@ajlewis3300 6 жыл бұрын

You should carry this message around to more schools and universities. It's ok to make mistakes when choosing your career path and more people need to know this! The belief that you should find one thing and stick with it forever needs to go in that spam folder!

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I am :)

@leontaylor9264 6 жыл бұрын

Even though you became an author you still indirectly became a teacher at the same time because you are teaching a valuable lesson right in this video :)

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

Haha so true!

@nightowl334 6 ай бұрын

Teaching something is not the same thing as being a teacher🥺

@allaboutkea1200 3 жыл бұрын

As a 17-year old questioning my life, I'm really glad I watched the video. Thank you so much for the valuable lessons🥺

@dannyalexander3165 2 жыл бұрын

hope you find or found some career or job you enjoy! Good luck out there 💙

@joshuamcrae9085 2 жыл бұрын

As an 18 year old, this is also very helpful

@cjadventures8840 2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamcrae9085 you look like a young 18 yo

@UnitedHornet Жыл бұрын

How are you now? I'm 16 and completely lost

@benardmusonda943 Ай бұрын

What did you learn summarize for me I can understand properly

@LondonsPointOfView1 5 жыл бұрын

As somebody in Generation Z, I concur. I just finished university and my biggest priority right now in life is my career and my trajectory in life.

@moscoweagle2846 3 жыл бұрын

As a Student of class of 2020 I never had time to prepare for the ending of the year we just left school for spring break and never returned to school because of the pandemic haven't been in school ever sense still nervous on going to the outside world.

@mikewazowski2347 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. I should be more grateful I was a sophomore when it started

@jordantoolivee3654 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikewazowski2347 Just graduated this year man . ITS SO DAM STRESFULL. Imagine pre-covid being a top ranked basketball player in the city being recruited .When the pandemic hit I went to 0 Mann.Then my senior year started had no prom . senior activity's or anything. Only wad 5 highschool basketball games. No more colleges on me and I'm still at 0.

@juliacarter1280 2 жыл бұрын

That part "No matter what age, we are all finding our path" brought me to tears. I am 30 years old and I have finally gotten my GED after so many attempts back when I was still being young and wild. It took me 3 months to finish. I am now trying to see what it is I am good at and what I want to do. I have thought of accounting but I mostly love working with housing so thought of finishing carpentry. It's been a task but I know the Lord will guide me to what He has for me.

@heyitsaradia 3 ай бұрын

proud of you!!!!

@suumcuique4530 3 жыл бұрын

the thing is, i fear that i won't have the resources (money) to do what i like to do when what i am currently choosing isnt the right decision.

@danieltakawi9919 3 жыл бұрын

That's why you should always have a backup plan. Do the best you can to have the all the resources you need to follow your ambitions, but have a backup plan that will make you not as happy as plan A, but still happy. And from plan B, find a way that could maybe bring you to plan A later on in life. And most importantly, always make the most out of whatever you have. Just because things didn't go as you expected or wanted does not mean you cannot be happy and satisfied.

@lanification 3 жыл бұрын

me too

@anthonygonzales7424 3 жыл бұрын

What if we seriously got together to try to reform the education system to better prepare kids so they won’t have to be in the same boat as I am now

@cherryblossom209 3 жыл бұрын

i'm in

@thegay_churro4043 2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying! ^^ I’m the president of the AVID club at my school and I’m promoting this idea of “find what path (no matter how unorthodox) works best for you”

@videogamescausentviolence5717 2 жыл бұрын

actually good idea

@sellamastupida 6 жыл бұрын

I like when you spoke about "monitoring your interests", as we tend to become overly preoccupied with our main passions that our other interests rarely get the attention they deserve

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

So true what you say! Thanks for commenting :)

@JeffreyB1983 4 жыл бұрын

My big mistake was family telling me to commit to a degree plan and immediately start taking hard classes. Your first college classes should be in your strongest academic area. Start with gen ed stuff until you know what your major will likely be.

@kamacasi31knives97 3 жыл бұрын

After high school, I bought somethings that was going to be a career, it wasn’t something I always wanted to do or even a dream. While I was in quarantine I finally found something I was passionate and willing to create, but I had to go to the expensive career that I wasted in and today I failed and I’m about to have an argument with two people who I love about my failure. This video was helpful and honestly I which I took a job after I left high school and during it I would write and create movies that I was passionate to make.

@aav3865 4 жыл бұрын

This video help me feel better and is relatable because these past few months I’ve been stressing about what I want to do for the rest of life and I would ponder on wether this career path would bring me joy and happiness and I sometimes feel obligated to stay in one path because I chose that for the rest of my life but I’ll work on changing my mindset when it comes to that it won’t happen overnight but it will happen Thank you so much for sharing this message

@tani7792 3 жыл бұрын

I feel you we'll be okay

@instant8399 3 жыл бұрын

same, and i'm only a freshman

@GailColeman Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a wonderful talk! I'm a late Baby Boomer, with a Gen Z son who is overwhelmed by what his life is to be. I showed him this video. We were talking about how many options are open now than when I was in high school. I said, "I wonder if KZfaq has any videos on choosing careers", and first thing, this popped up! It was perfect!

@ImmortalRecon 5 жыл бұрын

I am currently trying to plan out my senior year courses. This video helped me better understand what to do after senior year and to relax a bit ;)

@ambabrown3756 5 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad! Thanks for sharing :)

@melaniechristina6844 Жыл бұрын

You have no idea how much this had helped me in a very hard time with anxiety and fear. Thank you!

@moneyisthemotive7128 6 жыл бұрын

I can resonate with this. I went through many different phases after and during my time at school. It's true that we can put too much emphasis on one thing so it's good to open ourselves up to other options occasionally :)

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm glad it resonated with you :)

@lukei6255 Ай бұрын

I knew since I was about 8 what I wanted to do after receiving my first atlas. And I stuck to it and loved doing it for 50 years.

@instant8399 3 жыл бұрын

3:11 i'm only 13 and that question is already on my head almost daily

@ReallyWinterz 3 жыл бұрын

It’s even worse when you’re 17 and don’t plan on going to college

@alancheng2762 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the advice! I’ve always wanted to study architecture in university, but was already rejected by two out of my five choices in UCAS. I was thinking of reapplying the same course next year but now I may consider a different course altogether. Maybe becoming an architect isn’t the path for me. Not sure what my next steps are but I’m now more confident in trying something new :)

@findingyourpathbooks9398 4 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you found it to be helpful! Wishing you all the best on your path - wherever the next steps take you.

@saks388 2 ай бұрын

I cried when she said not to pursue my interest out of fear of failure. It tapped that nerve in me so hard. 😭 I fear, I do fear a lot about my decisions. I fear what if I fail, I get lost, I become unemployed, my parents wouldn't support me😭. I really really want to give myself one chance of pursuing a degree in literature and languages. But I often wonder if I would be able to carve a future out of it. I am from India, so according to the education system here, I m in my final year of High school getting a degree in Business and accountancy, I have no idea why I am doing this degree. I took it because my parents insisted and didn't let me do my further studies in humanities /arts. What if there is literally no scope in arts? What if I waste all my parents money and my precious golden years in a degree which doesn't guarantee me a job? I just don't know😭 . God help me, I want to be so fearless, so badly!!! I want to get rid of this fear. I, for once, just want to study what I love at this moment of time and see if I make smt outta it 😭 I want to be confident in my decision 😭 I want to be happy. I am still sobbing while typing this all. I just can't be like this, directionless, hopeless, fearful, anxious, I don't want to be this 😭 help me Give me strength! In March 2025 , I will take my boards exam and will be outta high school. God, I seek help😭

@justablogger9553 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this I wish I had teachers that were giving me this advice at school as I made a lot of bad choices after I left. However, I know that it's ok to make mistakes in order to find that one thing that you really want to do so it wasn't all that bad.

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! And I agree - we're all always finding our path :)

@carlhenry513 4 жыл бұрын

This is really inspiring.. thank you I really appreciate it, I have been trying to research a few things and I must say that this is the best advice that I have gotten, and it will be the best advice that any other person that is in school or that is not sure about their next move could get.

@findingyourpathbooks9398 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for such a positive review! I'm so glad that you found it to be inspiring. Take care and all the best on your path :) Amba

@nbaplaya20 6 жыл бұрын

Nothing but the truth, it's ok to explore different interests that we have. If we happen to find something else that interests us more than our previous interests then we shouldn't feel bad about it. Pursue the things that spark the most fire in you I say. Lovely message and great presentation

@ambabrown3756 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jamal!

@samewinge1400 5 жыл бұрын

So helpful - thank you!

@ambabrown3756 5 жыл бұрын

You're so welcome! Glad you related :)

@Indian2.5 3 жыл бұрын

@@ambabrown3756 Thank you Amba🙏🙏

@andrewamaya8109 Жыл бұрын

I’m 19, in trade school for HVAC with my passion for photography on the side. My dream is film movies but I don’t know how to get there I felt lost but this helped. I just feel like I’m running out of time I want to be able to take care of my parents when they’re older

@TheaHo 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your video. I love your talk! Hopefully there will be more useful videos like this in the future❤

@paawanjotkaur1901 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! This was helpful to reflect upon the present, being a 17 year old.

@jiayihuang6137 8 ай бұрын

I love this speech❤ don’t make decisions out of fear and pleasing others!!!

@tiscastic910 3 жыл бұрын

Wow idk that this talk is really needed Now it's on my top 10 fav tedx talks list

@ashleyching7894 2 жыл бұрын

5 interests/thoughts 5 possibilities Dreams not on fear, pleasing others, odds I’m interested in _________. I’ll see where it leads me.

@Random_Fox628 3 жыл бұрын

Very inspirational and motivational ❤️

@lofty_ari7368 2 жыл бұрын

This video made it more clearer for me, thanks so much

@amethysttoast3642 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for facing your fear amba!

@FranciscoGarcia-uu5sy 3 жыл бұрын

Class of 2021 I love you guys, we made it!!! But I’m lost now

@solomerebeccanabaggala9271 8 ай бұрын

I'm back to this video after 1 year ❤❤❤

@Hannah_Svh 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect

@hershelness5107 17 күн бұрын

Never make a decision about your future based on fear, pleasing others or how hard you think it'll be to reach your dream.

@catcsrg 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you ♥️ I needed to hear this

@braveheart_elemental4435 9 ай бұрын

2023 anyone? School has traumatized me and millions of other people... The school system has forced us to be quiet and not think for ourselves. As if we are mindless machines. As if we don't have a voice. When we get to high school, we have more freedom than what we have been allowed to have for years. What will a mindless machine do with that knowledge? Just keep with the program... I, and I'm sure others, are still trying to get over that trauma and try to stand up for ourselves. I could rant more, but I'm sure that I made my point clear to some. I, and other people are fed up with this school system. It's more of a jail, making kids into mindless servants scared to speak up. The reason that I told you this is that people should speak out against this generational torturer, the cycle will not stop until someone speaks out. Even if you don't believe it, consider how it is affecting children now. The best advice I have for everyone is to do your own research.

@rehssingh 3 жыл бұрын

I’m so happy I have all this useless information of photosynthesis and the quadratic formula. I’m never going to use this in my life but apparently I will need for the rest of my life. I don’t want to go to college because it’s more school, a bane of my life. I don’t want to go to school at all but my family wants me to. I know I’m going to move back to my block in the Oak.

@pharmclare 8 ай бұрын

Very helpful content

@crazycoolfun 4 жыл бұрын

i want to move out after graduating in 2021 and focus on youtube, twitch and esports, i just dont know where i am going to get the money to support all of that cause most likely my parents arnt going to be supporting me? any ideas or suggestions?

@Beautyby_Nab 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still watching this video in 2022 as i try to find my path 💃🏾💃🏾😍😍😍

@Svabby 3 жыл бұрын

About finish high school in acouple weeks I'm still clueless and can't handle it anymore.

@user-yh6dq2hl2t Жыл бұрын

Update please

@Svabby Жыл бұрын

@@user-yh6dq2hl2t hey thanks for commenting! Update: I studied electrical in high school which gave me the opportunity to work as a level one electrician. But I wasn't confident in those skills (I had the grade and understanding for it) so ended up taking a year off after school, working regular jobs until now which I'm planning to go into university.

@emptyhad2571 8 ай бұрын

@@Svabby how you doing now?

@lukester102d6 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I’m basically being shoved into choosing a university that I’ll attend for the next four years. I have NO clue what to do with my life now that I’m almost out of high school. I feel like there’s so many decisions I could make, and if I choose the wrong one, I’m screwed. Man life gets tough fast😅

@Bidenlost2020 2 жыл бұрын

Have faith in God that all will be alright!

@DemBlox 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bidenlost2020 that’s not enough

@Bidenlost2020 2 жыл бұрын

@@DemBlox What do you mean? Of course, we are all put through trials, but all in the end is fine.

@isaiahbman16 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@amermoussa1735 3 жыл бұрын

Any help for what are your aspirations for the future after Graduation from the medical school?(for a scholarship plz)

@saraz6267 2 жыл бұрын

I’m scared but I think I’m going to do it

@Bckner 2 жыл бұрын

Slowly realizing that I dont want to do anything

@nob.s-studyaccnt9256 2 жыл бұрын

To me being an Indian is so tilting, my parents want me to become a doctor no matter what, I told them over and over again I don't want to become one. But the guilt of having not to disappoint two beautiful parents is too much, and I am stuck. It would be so much better If I had their general support, but no

@OGvibes-tq6zl 4 жыл бұрын

I’m 17 just finished high school and I have no idea what to do, I have a part time job but currently unemployed cause of my surgery but will be back into work hopefully the next month or so, but I am just stuck, I really want to join the defence force but it’s going to take years because I need to recover. Besides that sometimes I feel like going to uni and sometimes I feel like just taking pre apprenticeship courses in the mean time. I have a goal set it’s just now that I’m worried about.

@lanification 3 жыл бұрын

hi! I am 17 right now, I wanted to know what you did, or what you're doing now?

@OGvibes-tq6zl 3 жыл бұрын

@@lanification Hi now I’m 18 years old turning 19. I got a new job working at the airport as a ramp agent however I still want to join the military but I got held off and have to try again in 12 months due to my injuries. I was a bit dishearten but I know I can try again and I know for sure that I will get in. What I can tell you from my experience is keep doing things that make you feel good. Whether it’s a job, sports or a hobbie. Keep doing it because it will raise your self awareness of being happy with yourself and self love. Accept challenges, learn new things and meet new people. This gives you the reason to keep driving towards many goals and many opportunities. I’m also in a band now drumming, i never thought I would be but now I’m playing at every bar, restaurant and clubs in town, playing mostly bob marley covers and I’m loving it. I made new friends and I feel good about myself. Also be strong you will struggle with whatever problem you face if it’s a relationship etc. but you will learn to be strong. Anyways best of luck to you and your life and god bless mate.

@OGvibes-tq6zl 3 жыл бұрын

@@lanification I went through a lot in over the last 10 months. It was painful but it was worth knowing my true self and what my capabilities are. I found love for the first time and it didn’t end well but that’s over now and I’m moving on so now I’m trying to love myself more importantly. Which is showing and I feel like I’m heading towards the right direction in my life.

@rosegolddonut8325 2 жыл бұрын

@@OGvibes-tq6zl wow so hey would you say that finding lots of new and different experiences/jobs help find a career or passion??..I'm stuck rn🤧

@OGvibes-tq6zl 2 жыл бұрын

@@rosegolddonut8325 yeah go out and experience life whether if it is good or bad. YOU LEARN TO ADAPT AND CHANGE YOURSELF TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF WHO YOU ARE AND FIND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. The only thing holding you back from doing all of that is fear. You know there were many times where I just wanted to give up because of how stressful situations would be if it was to do with work, family, relationships, sports etc. you just keep calm and stay in control. Some would refer to this as not loosing you’re edge as the yanks would call it. It isn’t always easy but once you learn that you will adapt and become more and more resilient to whatever life throws at you.

@jacqueslight9870 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Where can I buy the books?

@notbelaved 3 жыл бұрын

im so confused and afraid rn. idk what i am going to do after high school, i don't even know what major i would take in the future but there's no way i will take a gap year. im worried and afraid about my future so much and im even feel so afraid to starting studying for SAT :(((((

@nabilaananda3971 3 жыл бұрын

Me too :((

@notbelaved 3 жыл бұрын

@@nabilaananda3971 omg :( you're not alone :( anyway are you indonesian by any chance?

@kenners4975 3 жыл бұрын

out of curiosity, why not take a gap year?

@notbelaved 3 жыл бұрын

@@kenners4975 it's kind of complicated on how to explain it but i think it's because on how my society views gap year. i think when someone is going to college they would see it as achievement. i personally didn't take it that hard when it comes to gap year i mean of course you can explore things more before going to college but somehow, for people that taking a gap year it's kind of burden to us (?) because at how people would thinking about us how they would view us idk. and here people who usually taking a gap year it's not merely because of their own choice. usually because apparently, they didn't get accepted in public universities nor a major and university they want. so,,you know if it's comes to me, it's because of my parents actually

@Ky-goods 3 жыл бұрын

girl sane and i didn’t even take a SAT and i’m a senior

@dannythemartinez 3 жыл бұрын

I graduated high school today and I need to know what to after high school.

@DrMarkFosterEdDGCDF Жыл бұрын

I believe we need to get our youth the information they need to gain the confidence they need to make good career choices. This puts them in the driver's seat for their careers instead of hanging around waiting for someone to "tell" them what to do. Instead of forcing students in a corner to commit to something or else, we should be more concerned about getting young adults to choose a direction, e.g., Education, Manufacturing, Design, Finance, Consumer Relations, etc... Make sense?

@-ahmed121 2 жыл бұрын

I’m senior and it feels like a nightmare ghhhh I want to enter the collage

@kaiaswrld 2 жыл бұрын

Idk I googled it and ended up on this video so I guess it was helpful?

@emptyhad2571 8 ай бұрын

I’ve always been clouded and confused

@andreatrejo9173 2 жыл бұрын

“Its your choice to scream or enjoy the ride”

@Bidenlost2020 2 жыл бұрын

That's a nice way to think about it!

@tayy3035 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t choose, all I want is to be rich and successful😂

@missdoeverythingbyherselfl2918 3 жыл бұрын

Lol Mee to🤣

@ashleyching7894 2 жыл бұрын

What are your strengths? Interests?

@jacobchavez1400 4 жыл бұрын

Who’s watching this on 2020 and 26 million people unemployed damn

@michiiimeow6770 3 жыл бұрын

I just dont know ;-;

@023mel2 4 жыл бұрын

Please portuguese legends 😢😢💔

@tatertitties2711 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question for all of you. Is it worth dropping out of high school ?

@emilym4060 3 жыл бұрын

No. Don't because having a high school diploma can get you a better job even without college. It's not worth it dropping out.

@assassin7250 3 жыл бұрын

High school is worth it.. u should make friends.. I know it’s hard but look I’m here with diploma with no friends. Only 4 bestfriend from my childhood.. but if I wish I do it again was to make friends.. it’s hard but you have to step out of your comfort zone..

@black_jadon1787 3 ай бұрын

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@suumcuique4530 3 жыл бұрын

i hate my life.

@davidcooper4385 3 жыл бұрын

I was out of my parents house at 18 started out as an electrician the money is good steady work ,NEVER EXPECT THE WORLD TO REACH OUT AND HELP YOU.Figure out what you might want to do 5 days a week for the rest of your life its a long time MAKE A WISE DECISION or you won't be happy ,happiness is the KEY...

@mariyalaghari 6 ай бұрын

My presentation is about that and I am university student I think if I deliver tald talk I must cry over stage

@davidcooper4385 3 жыл бұрын

High school has NO MORE CAR MECHANICS ,ELECTRICAL,WOOD SHOP,HOME ECONOMICS CLASSES,OUR GOVERMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT FINANCE OR THE STOCK MARKET OR INVESTING DUMBBBBBER THE BETTER ETC ....