How To Fit Valve Extenders - Road Bike Maintenance

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If you're using deep or aerodynamic wheels, you'll probably need valve extenders - here's our guide to fitting and using them. Important to get right, frustrating if you get it wrong.
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There are two types of valve extenders; those that require you to remove the valve core and those that don't.
To fit both types you'll need some silicone (plumber's) tape, a set of small pliers and it's also a good idea to have some insulating tape to hand.
The important thing is to make the seal as air-tight as possible, hence the silicone tape. Deep section wheels are also really prone to the valve rattling. So, get some insulating tape and wrap it around the valve at the point that it exits the rim.
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@johnsaxontube 6 жыл бұрын

They are leaving out the most important, and totally counter-intuitive part. What you are going to do is leave your presta valve wide open, as you have never ever done before in your life. Then you are going to screw on this extension leaving the valve wide open. From now on, only the pressure in the tube will hold the valve shut. It took me about 45 minutes of fretting and thinking I was crazy to figure this out. After a lifetime of screwing these valves shut, you'd think they might mention that now you're expected to leave it open. They also fail to mention that you'll be shit out of luck if you have a flat while riding since you probably will not have thought to bring a long skinny thing (perhaps the smallest hex wrench?) to poke down into the extension to let all the air out. You also will be out of luck if you didn't bring along teflon tape and pliers with which to take the extension off of the old tube and fit the extension on the new inner tube. Perhaps not the most helpful video I've ever seen.

@Back-N-Black 5 жыл бұрын

Are you sure about that? In this particular video at 1:15 it is IMO that he does make quite a good point of opening and securing the valve in its open position. Maybe it has been edited since you wrote this.

@markwu3121 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks，your comment helps me than the video

@akkoonassis9045 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, thank you ffs. For the life of me, I got these things and couldn't understand this.

@bullwinkle428 2 жыл бұрын

I currently ride butyl tubes with 80mm valve stems, and would continue to carry these tubes as spares if I ran latex tubes with valve extenders, which I'm considering for next season. Just too much to mess with at the side of the road if a puncture does occur.

@marketingsam 11 ай бұрын

Got some latex tubes as heard they have lower rolling resistance, but valves not long enough so got the extenders set them up only to read I should have wrapped them! All this I google the benefit and it's just 1 watt per wheel!!

@GT-cx8vd 6 жыл бұрын

next time shoot the video from the moon. We cannot see what you are doing mate!

@weekiong8867 4 жыл бұрын

Ya, dumb right? I cannot even understand and see shit

@myhairisfullofhair3792 3 жыл бұрын

that's what I thought.

@jeffels95 9 жыл бұрын

Take note that it's always good practice to wrap the tape the same direction that you're going to screw the extender on otherwise you could unravel the tape and not make as good of a seal

@skippyguy3 4 жыл бұрын

Well said this man 👍

@trifitguy 2 жыл бұрын

that is basic knowledge for anyone...who doesn't know this?

@Kieran0 Жыл бұрын

@@trifitguy all of these tips are basic knowledge. Everything is easy once you know how to do it, remember there will be plenty of people who have never even used silicon tape before, if they sat and thought about it they'd figure it out but it's easy to get 'stuck in' without thinking things through, we've all done it.

@karlosfandango6637 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Today I had my first puncture using deeps section wheels. Couldn't understand why pump wasn't getting air in the tube. Sat at side of road just completely miffed. Then I found this video and boom!! Had no idea I'd be needed tape to help seal the extenders. Managed to pinch of the old valve. Got me home. #allthegearandnoidea.

@gcn 4 жыл бұрын

Glad we could be of use Karl!

@stefis6 9 жыл бұрын

I have used a thin layer of PVA glue on the thread left to tack up. It worked very well. What was shown in the video was plumbers' PTFE tape.

@jbaillie 9 жыл бұрын

If you run deep section clinchers anywhere from 38mm to about 66mm you can also just use 80mm valve stem tubes.

@jen3800 6 жыл бұрын

Dan ! This is the kind of mech detail i respect the heck out of ! Most mechanics I have spoken to seeking advice on this topic have glossed over it and not one man jack has tipped me on the sealing method you describe. I run tubulars and a "top " mechanic installed a new one and it leaks like mad. I am running brand new gatorskin tires and this is the second tire he installed like this. when i inquired as to how to attach a valve extender , 3 different mechanics said i just screw it on , and good to go. no tips, no advice as good as yours, so thanks ! keep 'em comin' ! jim

@TumshieHeed 9 жыл бұрын

Guys, it is not 'silicon' tape but PTFE thread tape. Any Plumbers' Merchant will sell you some, or perhaps your local hardware store. Also, you do NOT need so much tape to get the seal. I know, I worked with the stuff for over 15 years.

@Pelodoan 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the close up for the non-removable core segment (2:20) is actually footage from the removable core segment...

@non-essentialoutingstokyo1163 2 жыл бұрын

for non-removable cores, you put the extender over the open valve on the tube. But how do you pump up the tire then? It's just an open hole at the end, is that fine?

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Just like you would do with a removable core. Only you have to remove the core from that flat tire you were saving for bungee jumping. You didn't throw those away , I hope.

@kamashi85 9 жыл бұрын

I think you mean Teflon (PTFE) tape not silicon tape.

@zedtony8110 9 жыл бұрын

Ibai Sarría Varea +1

@TumshieHeed 9 жыл бұрын

tony valeri +Ibai Sarria Varea that is exactly what it is. Polytetrafluoroethylene Tape. Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylene that has numerous applications. The best-known brand name of PTFE-based formulas is Teflon by DuPont Co., which discovered the compound. PTFE is a fluorocarbon solid, as it is a high-molecular-weight compound consisting wholly of carbon and fluorine.

@SteveGocka 9 жыл бұрын

As long as your valves are long enough that your cap threads are showing, you can either use a schrader adapter or a pump with a screw on head. I buy commonly available 48mm stem tubes but a regular clamp on pump head won't work. So I use a Lezyne pump. The screw on head works perfectly. Same with the Lezyne mini pumps.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Schraeder adapters are good to carry. Not every pump fits Prestas. Same with those tiny valve stem wrenches, as some stems come off with screw on pumps. Weight is in the 0.1 gram range. The Lezyne pump heads are known for pulling stems out

@TomAbramoff 5 жыл бұрын

to be honest, one of the more lacking videos in GCN's catalogue. Just a NICE this time. Go back, film it better with closeups, more consistency, and PLEASE call it teflon tape and not silicone tape. You might just get a SUPER NICE.

@heatherbarham3690 9 жыл бұрын

Looks like PTFE tape - same as you use on some copper plumbing fittings.

@geico-lz9ip 5 жыл бұрын

that same stuff used in plumbing

@MicroageHD 9 жыл бұрын

Well, with these tips everyone is a winner!

@meatmotorendurance 4 жыл бұрын

It's kind of interesting with ALL the deep dish wheels no tube company has made a 100mm valve. The necessity of a valve extender in 2020 is kind of dumb.

@TumshieHeed 9 жыл бұрын

Polytetrafluoroethylene Tape. Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylene that has numerous applications. The best-known brand name of PTFE-based formulas is Teflon by DuPont Co., which discovered the compound. PTFE is a fluorocarbon solid, as it is a high-molecular-weight compound consisting wholly of carbon and fluorine.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Just like he said. Silicone. /s

@dillonswifte2672 9 жыл бұрын

Could only dream of wheels like those

@SquareJerHertz 2 жыл бұрын

This was obviously made before GCN figured out how to make quality videos. I don't care about audio narration. I want to see close up details of how everything works. There is about 10 seconds of close up detail and after watching nearly the whole thing I have only a little better idea what to do. I'll go find another video about valve extenders...

@orangepuma01 9 жыл бұрын

So I find that valve extenders are great when your out on a long ride but the tube a buddy might lend you isn't the length of your wheel. Ie. You have a 60mm and your tube is 40mm. I know you recommend using the teflon or silicon tape to prevent air spillage. What are your thoughts on this while out on the road?

@leeberry6309 5 жыл бұрын

Top tips as always from the GCN. I've had an annoying rattle from road vibration on my new Zipp 404s. I'm sure it's the valve rating through road vibration. Time to try this tip. Cheers GCN

@randomsz105 9 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on changing you cassette from a 9 speed to an 11 speed or can you just not do that

@manp1039 11 ай бұрын

have you found pliers that would work on Shrader valve entenders that are round and don't have flat bits to grab onto with flat-ended needle nose pliers?

@halfglassfull 5 жыл бұрын

extenders are good if have deep section wheels and.... 1) you can't find tubes with long enough valves in your area 2) you have several spare tubes all with short valves that won't fit 3) you are on a long ride, get a second flat and you need to borrow a tube but the loaner has a short valve (still may not work but...) 4) you have long valves already but believe size (length?) matters.

@IronmanSparkes 5 жыл бұрын

followed it and with the extra tips on noise reduction, it worked a treat. thanks. A*

@monolinkster 9 жыл бұрын

I always buy tube with longer valve, saving the hassles.

@leedorney 9 жыл бұрын

monolinkster Totally, saves the hassle bigtime.

@melbman43 9 жыл бұрын

lee a dorney exactly, ever tried to fit a valve extender one on a cold wet dark morning?

@banditrider613 6 жыл бұрын

Its now becoming more difficult to get longer valves . I have 650x 23 Zipp wheels, used to be able to get 80mm length, but now impossible to get them in UK .. So extensions are the only way possible ..

@stefanvansteenberge 5 жыл бұрын

@@banditrider613 widely available here in belgium

@skippyguy3 4 жыл бұрын

@@banditrider613 80mm lifeline inner tubes on wiggle for £2.48 each 👍👍

@ChuckD59 7 жыл бұрын

In the US we also have a teflon paste used for the same purpose and possibly more workable for such a tiny application.

@bicyclist2 Жыл бұрын

Both valves showed here had removable cores. My Vitoria tubular tires don't have removable valve cores. This won't work at all for me.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Pinch a valve stem from a flat tube or inattentive mate. Or just sit by the side of the road until someone with a spare takes pity.

@bennyandthejets1975 5 ай бұрын

When using the extender for non removal core how does it seal. What's at the end of the extender

@dusanpetrovic2720 9 жыл бұрын

that looks like teflon tape. I better be wrong because you have said "silicon tape" about 7 times

@Ed.R 9 жыл бұрын

Looks like PTFE, aka teflon tape to me also. No idea what silicone tape is.

@goochisessions 6 жыл бұрын

Ed R just asked for silicone tape at Screwfix, they had no idea what I was talking about. It is PTFE tape.

@LorenSalas 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. Very useful information, as I've had issues with my standard extenders whereby the valve nut rattles shut after each ride. A little more tightening should fix that.

@qsm1334 5 жыл бұрын

How do you let the air back out incase you need to??

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

If you can't figure that out, you probably don't need deep rims. /s

@868686mauro 9 жыл бұрын

You need to make sure the Teflon tape is wrapped with the direction of the thread, otherwise you will tear it up as you screw it in. Also, with the first type, to avoid so many turns you can use the yellow grade gas tape (AS/NZS) which is a thicker tape specific for pressurised applications. Three wraps will be sufficient. Loctite hydraulic sealant is also an option but requires about 20 minutes for the initial cure before you can pressurise the tube.

@Thavisup 5 жыл бұрын

Why don't you just buy the tube with a longer valve (60mm or 80mm)?

@W.est88 5 жыл бұрын

Drew Bkk my rims are 80mm so an 80mm valve will still not be long enough to pump the tires and I can’t seem to find a manufacturer who makes valves longer than 80mm

@sidneycowznofski 2 жыл бұрын

okay, i get that once installed, the extender is not to be removed until ready to uninstall the tube for whatever reason, BECAUSE the "silicon" (i think the narrator actually means teflon, but who knows, maybe the world of materials science has now invented a new miracle product made from silicon) tape becomes unusably frazzled upon unscrewing the extension, and must be replaced every time the extension is re installed. so now, with the presta plunger deeply buried inside the extender, how do i use a free-standing accurate pressure gauge to verify the correct tire pressure after inflating with my Silca pump which like all Silca pumps works really well but has a horribly inaccurate integral pressure gauge? inquiring minds want to know.

@bushsub 7 жыл бұрын

Quite misleading and lacking in information this video. Not like GCN really. Take a close look at the closeup of the first case when he finally threads the extender on the tire valve. After just having finished putting teflon tape on the treads of the tire valve, the close up shows NO tape on the tire valve but rather shows the tape wrapped around the threads of the extender. Yes, that's right, they've cut in the closeup of the 2nd type of extender where he's discussing the first type....and no, it's NOT all the same. This is supposed to be a tutorial for those of us that are unfamiliar with the topic. Details are critically important. And I didn't hear him mention that in the first case, the valve lock should be left open...but since the closeup of that type of extender was replaced for the second type, there's no way to otherwise pick up that important point. Think this one should be remade guys. Cheers

@l.m.g8799 5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that to

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Just like mine, it fell off

@thetedster7812 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent video.

@memybikeandfriends 9 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to pre-tape your spare tubes.

@josephsigala4106 9 жыл бұрын

Anybody else see the needle slowly go down when he pumped it up the first time?

@llandor 9 жыл бұрын

I assume you didn't reattach the lock ring, but are they useful in some cases? I find that they do nothing on wheels and just add to the clutter.

@tobortine 9 жыл бұрын

For some reason I initially read it as "How to fit valve *Eastenders*" - What does that even mean ?

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

BBC soaper. Often flat. But there was Olivia Coleman.

@alexfleming8146 9 жыл бұрын

Global Cycling Network could you guys do a video on how to fit a rigid fork for a mtb?

@davoniegalicha3162 4 ай бұрын

How to fix leaking air? I leave the valve open but after pumping air keeps leaking on the valve.. Pls. Help

@brauljo Жыл бұрын

I don't get what the difference was between the extender types, the valve core was removed from the tube anyway.

@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a E-SCOOTER and got a puncture and the valve in the back tyre is to small and can't get pump over it ??? Ridiculous designed the way they've done it..

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

They make extenders for that kind of set up. I run them on foldies an trailers

@howard9110 9 жыл бұрын

You should film closer to your hand so you can see exactly what you are doing ;)

@cyclingchantal 9 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. If you show a mini tool (in this case of Continental), just insert some close-up frames. Holding it between two fingers is almost not visible.

@markovich88 9 жыл бұрын

howard9110 agreed

@FightingThroughPodcast 8 жыл бұрын

+howard9110 agreed

@ninjab3an656 9 жыл бұрын

One thing I don't think GCN has covered is presta vs schrader valves, which do you prefer and what is best? Most people seem to run presta valves on road bike and schrader on everything else.

@banditrider613 6 жыл бұрын

sometimes you have no choice due to rim size, but recent wheel purchase shows the hole drilled for spokes is the same size as would be needed for a Schrader valve . Not so sure on the carbon wheels though ... :(

@jochang9012 3 жыл бұрын

is there a reason we don't remove the extender after installation?

@XCRiders 3 жыл бұрын

Once you go into this what are you do to replace the inner tube out on the road ? You can’t carry 2 pliers on the road

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

With the tiny valve wrenchy things, carried on a wire with valve adapters for different pump types and your tire levers works pretty well. Otherwise, if you point the pliers in the right direction , they are pretty aero.

@stephen5shaw 9 жыл бұрын

Are there valve extenders for non threaded valves?

@abtcup 9 жыл бұрын

Do you really need the Teflon tape with the Continental valve extenders? They already have a white rubber ring at the base of the threads. I have them and did not use any tape on the threads...and my tires consistently hold air. I don't use tape on the valve core either.

@banditrider613 6 жыл бұрын

You should not need it , BUT , its down to choice, do or dont , up to the individual ..

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Tapered threads are designed to seal, Straight threads not, though they very well may. This is extra gasketing, done for luck and may prevent a slow leak, or not.

@davidebonfanti1769 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question: will I be able to use the "spray foam repairing tubes" with the valve fully opened? I am worried the foam will be rejected somehow because the valve is in the middle and not at the end . I generally insert the nozzle of the spray can into the valve

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Yucky

@realmadera 9 жыл бұрын

What's the advantage of deep rim wheels?

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

More space for sponsor's ads, flashy brand name display, and excuse to buy more stuff. Appeal to competitive vanity is just an extra.

@adammillsindustries. 4 ай бұрын

I was going to do this but I’m not taping up. Good to see Dan from nearly 10 years ago though. I’m out.

@Marcas1971 2 жыл бұрын

good job. thanks

@Drezzula 4 жыл бұрын

Could you guys have filmed this from any further away? Could’ve stepped back a few more paces I reckon.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Nope, smallish studio. Or maybe social distancing.

@THX-wc2jo 3 жыл бұрын

Question - bought used bike with deep rims - is there a way to know if you have valve extenders with removable core or regular core? Without taking tire/tube off rim?

@markachternaam5207 3 жыл бұрын

The extender for removable core will typically have the original core installed. Have a look at the video at end Dan puts the original core in the extender.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Best way I know of , is to have a puncture on a cold dark night in the rain.

@onlymeok 9 жыл бұрын

After finding out that silicone tape is a thing I question can PTFE tape can be used instead?

@Mark-Huigen 9 жыл бұрын

Yes that is in fact pretty much the same thing! We use it for gas and pressure lines at work so this will definitely work for this job.

@bettyeverett8089 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any suggestions for schrader valves?

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Schrader to Presta adapters give you a cm or so. Even Schrader to Dunlops will do.

@justno7852 9 жыл бұрын

Leave value extender? What is a value extender? Shown at end of video. :)

@FrettieFingers 6 жыл бұрын

tape on the tube valve, but then screws in the extender with the tape on it. what just happened?

@jayashkumar5941 Жыл бұрын

I’m enjoying the bike so far kzfaq.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.

@martinlarson8326 9 жыл бұрын

Your cameraman should really consider leaving the camera on autofocus. Most of these type of videos are out of focus 50% of the time.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

50% ? you have better eyes than me.

@karlosfandango6637 4 жыл бұрын

Just done everything on this video. But air still leaking out. 😭

@ItsAlive111 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, that wheel seems very happy to see you

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Is that a valve extender in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

@josephcampbell4591 6 жыл бұрын

I still don't know how to do it

@markovich88 9 жыл бұрын

Isnt it easier just to buy long valve inner tube? Otherwise what happens when you get a puncture on the road? You arent going to have all that kit with you

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Then you were out of luck, and now have an additional reason.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

Is that a valve extender in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

@spanish111japan 9 жыл бұрын

Dan could be insulting your mother and your whole family, you'd still love his accent.

@shockwavepulsar7996 4 ай бұрын

Film it from even further please

@davidnicholson6680 9 жыл бұрын

Adding to the chorus: using valve extenders is silly. Spend the $5 per and get new tubes with 85MM valves.

@banditrider613 6 жыл бұрын

No longer availabe for 650 wheels in UK .. Seem to be only around in locations of a high number of riders on flat TT circuits , no problem in places like California or Sidney , but at $30 shipping to UK , it has to be extenders now ... reluctantly ..

@MegaSnuffie 9 жыл бұрын

Isn't it a possibility to buy innertubes with valves the correct length? Then you don't have to use the extenders.

@rubennijenhuis98 9 жыл бұрын

Yes but they are quite expensive

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

And for when you can't get a tube with 'em

@seanlyon2989 9 жыл бұрын

Silicone tape? 10 rolls! Ptfe tape and 10 turns

@Brx8den 6 жыл бұрын

Bad editing. The non-removable valve bit used footage threading in the removable valve extender. Adds confusion to what otherwise would have made sense. Also bad far away shots where no one can tell what you are doing.

@rosomak8244 9 жыл бұрын

Why not just sonder tem on?

@edgarmurakami5171 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't show close up.

@drgnrydr11496 Жыл бұрын

the weight of the bike

@Sooperhans3636 2 жыл бұрын

Why aren’t they ALL the removable core type? The other ones are shit.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

But think of the savings!

@kaseasdasd5053 Жыл бұрын

Don't Have Any Complaints

@THECOOLGUYBOB 6 жыл бұрын

Why don’t you just buy a innertube with a 60mm valve for 3 quid

@Flashback_Jack 2 жыл бұрын

Man, there's some janky editing going on in this video. At 2:13 you're teflon taping up the valve without the removable core. In the following cut at 2:20, you're fitting the extender to a valve with no core. WTF?

@garypierson6455 4 жыл бұрын

Cant even see what what's going on

@garynewbold1639 9 жыл бұрын

This seems such a faf! Why not just buy new tubes and save the older shorter ones for when you are using smaller wheels or just sell them one of your mates. Job done!

@lukas_mena 5 жыл бұрын

If you need a more detailed guide, I recommend you this post! www.slowtwitch.com/Tech/Valve_Extender_How-To_3007.html

@mikelarry5948 4 жыл бұрын

Wow very bad video Editing, you guy used the Clip from the removable core, on the non-removable core seen. That was Confusing for my son he is just 9 years old and i see why and you Never shown how to remove the air out on the non-removable core with the Extension. People are going to be confused about that guys. You need a better Mechanic and video editor. Before you guys get passed bye KZfaqr who knows better. I love this show but you guys disappointed at times about bike mechanics the is nice guy but sucks sorry for saying that but it's true. He is killing the show. Time over time mistake. Please don't let this go. Do something before you guys Become a laughing stock. Well good luck with your show.

@michaelhall5297 5 жыл бұрын

Lol 5:30 "value extender"

@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO 9 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they sell tubed with extended valves already on them

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

And your buddy has them in his seat bag anyway.

@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO Жыл бұрын

@@whazzat8015 True. True 8 plus years ago. Check back in 2031.

@whazzat8015 Жыл бұрын

@@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO I done set de hans of de clock.

@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO Жыл бұрын

@Whazzat Gr8t stiff. I b seten da hans o' de clock b4 I be buggin'. Really? Okay Money grip..off you go.

@lot10101 6 жыл бұрын

Teflon tape....teflon tape....

@CMWren87 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t bother close ups so we have any clue what you’re doing

@XavierPrice 4 жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t have to watch this video five times to try and see what your doing keep a close up on what your doing the entire time. Your face doesn’t show us what your hands are doing so why do you keep cutting to mid/wide shots. This video should be redone.