What we saying guys? VAR - keep it and fix it, or sack it off?

We should definitely be able to hear the communication between refs and stockley park. Would really help fans understand why refs make decisions Also think that the clock should be stopped every time the ref goes to var

Like London buses is Spencer. Wait for ages and then BOOM two in no time.

I just wish we had VAR at Hashtag! Would stop me getting so many calls wrong on commentary!!

2 days 2 imos, Double decent

Very simple for me, give the VAR official 20 seconds of replays if it’s nothing clear and obvious the on field decision stands, if there is a thought issue the on field ref should go to the monitor and make the decision, currently just constantly undermining the officials.

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I’m Irish and I will never forget that Henry goal.

Being completely serious the prem should take a page out of the mls’s book on how to use var, been in use for two and half years and has been used pretty properly

This is amazing two imos in two days Double amazing Spencer is doing it

Lovin the uploads spence keep it up bro🤛

Var in favor of ur team: i love VAR Var against ur team: i fckin hate VAR

Love imo, love 2 episodes in a row. One of these a week would be heaven!

Him getting back with Alex is having an impact already 2 vids in 2 days omg. Daily vids coming back 😍😍😍

More great content from Spen! Great to see him uploading frequently 😃

I’m loving these imo’s! Keep it up spenny ❤️

Great Work Spence! Only voted on twitter yesterday and we got 2 :) cheers!

Do an IMO on your thoughts on the West Ham owners, they’ve had a lot of scrutiny lately

This has to be one or the most sound and sensible discussions about VAR and some good ideas about how to improve it for football/soccer in the future

2 uploads 2 days love it

Gonna be a class video as per usual

Loving the IMO's, I hope more are coming in the near future

2 days 2 bangers I’m crying with happiness

Keep it up Spenny ! I'm loving it !

Agree on almost everything you’ve said here, apart from the offside factor. It is objective, however there’s been a question over if the cameras capture the exact millisecond the ball leaves a players foot. This seems like a small problem, but with such a minimal difference (as you mentioned for example 3mm) this is crucial.

Top man spencer always talk sense, and you’ve actually changed my view slightly with the points you made, keep up the good work dont go changin 😉

Spencer back to consistent uploading now?🤔 hopefully

Thanks for posting more again keep it up

So many people needed to hear your opinion I agree so much

Plz do more imo. I love this series like all of your other series

Back on the grind

Spence, what do you make of var in the Chelsea Vs Man United match

Things you love to see: 2 daily uploads in a row

Quality video mate!

Great video! Some very good ideas

Love the imo, keep going!

Love the imos being more frequent

Good vid mate 👍

Well time to sit down, relax and watch this one!

I agree 100% mate. Very well spoken

You’re wrong about your offside point, The officials can’t get the tough ones right 100% of the time as they can’t get the EXACT moment the ball leaves the players foot. There have been decisions given offside when the ball would have left his foot milliseconds later but if they gave it those milliseconds later the player is onside. Your other points are spot on but not this.

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2 vids in 2 days? Go on Spencer you mad man

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TOTALLY agree with u mate!

Hi spencer,I’m a massive fan of you since once a lion and a Man City fan and this is the perfect way to clear up VAR. I’ve watched all of you’re videos since once a lion-to this date and I went to the 3rd Wembley cup and have the hashtag kit with the EE sponsor, from you’re biggest fan shay

Spencer always has an Interesting Perspective.

Absolutely nailed it Spencer

my initial reaction on seeing this on my subscriptions: Me: OMG you legend

Yessss love the IMO series

Love the IMO great quality professional football knowledge. I agree VAR has to speed up Your videos are Always worth watching. Dont go changin Spencer

You are 100% on point here. Challenges would be amazing to the game and would be, as you say, another element to management

Well put

Great video! Very good points! For example...how it effects time plus teams in history who have suffered such as Ireland, is what I did not put into consideration.

Great video Spencer! With VAR being new to the PL, there’s going to be teething issues at first but overtime I’m sure some rules will be changed to sort out debates that are had (Rice’s handball, etc). I think a challenge system would be great, one challenge for the manager and captain per half to challenge a decision for or against the referee’s decision

Yet again spot on. Btw whoever introduced the idea for 2 hand ball rules needs binning

Theres so many different arguments you could have for this. Of course when celerbrating it takes the life out of the experience for fans and things. But its like u see maguire yesterday on rudiger when he doesnt get sent of for something exactly the same son got sent off for against chelsea. And dan burn being offside with his hand and similar things like that is what we need to get clear with var

I think the issue with using VAR to check offsides is that a video operates frame by frame, and players can go from onside to offside between frames. The ball might leave a player's boot between frames as well, so I just don't think the technology could ever nail an absolute line. Regardless, glad to hear someone talking about VAR in a level-headed way, another great video!

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Thanks for this Spen. It’s everything I’ve been saying for ages but from someone with more authority. Lol Putting a mic on the ref is something I’ve said for about 15 years. It would stop decent not just because there would be evidence and repercussions, but it would also help fans be more informed about what decisions have been made and why, AND it would keep the referees in check because they know they’ll have to justify those decisions. The way it has been up until now, the refs can do what they want for 90+ minutes and then disappear down the tunnel without needing to justify anything. This is the reason managers go on camera and get in trouble for questioning the ref’s integrity/competence. Mic them up - force them to make honest and reasoned decisions. It works in a circle because this will foster respect for the ref and prevent players wanting to clash with the refs in the first place.

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I totally agree with your idea of the appeal system!

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Fair to say we disagree on many aspects of VAR and it's possible future, probably too much to leave in a comment, I might have to go old school and make a video response! Interesting to hear your thoughts though.

You need to start a podcast talking about football, you always talk pure sense👍🏼

Lots of great ideas here and agree with the majority of what you said. Only thing I disagree with is with the offside rule. I don't know if the technology is fully ready yet because the difference between frames may make a difference between onside and offside. How do we know the exact moment the pass has left the players foot to start the pass which results in the decision having to be made - are the cameras accurate enough?

You’ve hit the nail on the head there Spencer. If people have problems with those offside calls it’s the offside rule they have a problem with not VAR

13:59 The VAR team sometimes goes with that rule and other times doesn't, always subjective.

Always respect your opinion Spence

Anyone else like before watching just to see he’s back on his grind

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Great IMO, I'm also Pro-VAR and think it's a great and fair way to look at contentious decisions. I also agree that it's a great tool and that instead of VAR changing it's the rules in which VAR in analysed needs to change. I don't think VAR and the delays take anything away from football, it's there to make sure the best team on the day wins and in some ways, VAR can enhance the experience. For example, a goal is scored for your team, you are celebrating massively, most of the time you don't even realise that VAR is looking for the decision until you have stopped celebrating. If VAR rules out your team's goal then obviously it has been disallowed for a valid reason (I still agree some rules in football, not VAR need to change), if your goal stands then it's an extra incentive to have a mini celebration (especially if it's an important goal). However, if you have seen a stadium erupt due to a goal scored against your team and then VAR has chalked it off (again for a valid reason) then that's as good as scoring a goal itself and an incentive to celebrate and to stick it back to rival fans. As before this, you would have to just accept the decision even though it's not fair. Think the appeal system is a little farfetched and would actually delay the proceeding more (i.e. you said possibly an analysis watching the game and calling it, I think this would cause much more of a delay). I understand the "spectacle" of it and your angle being that it is a managerial tactic, but it's a little too Hollywood and American for the PL. It works well in individual sports such as tennis because that is a very intimate sport in terms of space (half a court) and the decisions which need to be made (in or out), football is more contentious so waiting for an analyst/manager to call out a decision and then waiting for it to be analysed by VAR would take longer. Most importantly these appeal systems don't make it a fair game in a sport like football, in football, a goal can literally be the difference between promotion and relegation, points are so vital. Imagine using all of your calls and then losing a game and ending up getting relegated or losing a final because of it. I do believe that slowly, through trial and error that we will see VAR improving and with less controversial decisions as we have seen in other countries who adopted earlier than the PL. I love your enthusiasm for change in the game and different approaches and ideas, I bet you're the kind of man that loves the old silver goal rule 😂

Cricket also has a appeal system if you don’t agree with a decision you can review it to see if it’s out or not out!😁

"Clear and obvious" is what the FA told us, being a millimetre is neither of them, also how can people stop the VAR recording on the perfect frame to make sure he isnt a millimetre either side The perfect example of where VAR should be used was Cardiff against Chelsea last year, when the chelsea lad was about 2/3 yards off and the goal stood. Wouldn't take as long to check these decisions, and this goal decision was both "clear and obvious"

Agree with a lot of points you made there. Especially acknowledging that its never the VAR being wrong but the rules or the people looking into it. My problem with the appeal system is that rules are not clear enough for it. Handball rule for example is not a black and white decision most of the time. By implementing the appeal system we force the ref to make a decision and decide whether or not the appeal was right or wrong but we can’t do that because it might be a 50/50 decision. What do you do in that instance? Do you just say oh well that’s unlucky you lose your appeal or does it force the ref into making more decisions they normally wouldn’t make. VAR is very important and we just have to be patient with it and not only acknowledge the things it decides wrong/not perfect but also the instances where it overturnes a wrong decision which seems to be a lot more often.

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As a rugby fan as well, The football offside line seems impressive and is something we need in rugby

Completely agree with you Spen! I reckon the appeal system would work really well!

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Agree completely! And always said appeals would be a great idea.

yeah great points

I’ve always believed an appeal system is the best way. Just like cricket I would the captain and the manager as well as players who were involved in the incident on whether it’s worth the appeal or not. Would put more worth on the use of picking the correct manager and captain who have a clear understanding of the rules.

Bang on Spencer, I’m a Chelsea fan and you saw what happened with Giroud on Monday, doesn’t matter if it’s a millimeter or five meters, offside is offside thats how rules work.

Seeing the replay definitely helps the fans not get as outraged. At least this does so in the states with the NBA. Of course people will still disagree with calls, but I think it will definitely make a difference.

The problem with your proposal Spen is that if the incident is on the other side of the pitch then the manager will have no clue whether to appeal or not. If they use monitors to show the manager then they will just increase the time taken in VAR

Rugby is my sport, the respect shown for referees and the ability to crack on regardless of the decision is awesome to see in sport. The TMO in rugby seems to executed extremely well. The referee can ask to see specific items, or the TMO can suggest that the referee take a look at a specific item. I think that right there is the key, specific items either asked for or suggested by the “VAR” and then the decision is made on the field by the referee/official, and the game cracks on.

I agree with everything you said! Only thing I want to add is that people get mad because of the inconsistencies of the referees. Which I could agree with as well; I'm not mad at the VAR but the inconsistencies from game to game.

I think you should combine Spencer’s suggestions. Keep VAR BUT it can only be used when the manager chooses to appeal. You get one appeal per game but keep them if you’re right. No extra apparatus to the bench team just as it is. Then ovs screens in stadiums are necessary.

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Good points Spen. Hopefully these changes would be implemented into football. They should change the offside rule so that it’s just the leg to foot to be offside

VAR can be summed up in these lyrics from The Clash: 🎵 Should I stay or should I go now? If I go there will be trouble And if I stay it will be double 🎵

More videos please Spen

I think the same as you mostly but I think the handball rule should be changed because if a ball is belted at your hand from a foot away there’s not much you can do but with a few tweaks here and there I think it can work👍 keep up the good content mate been watching forever now glad to see you getting better

Spencer when you gonna bring back the Wembley Cup?

The trouble people have with the offsides is they try and be so precise using the lines, but then that level of precision is not applied when picking the correct frame for when the ball leaves the player's foot

As a football and rugby fan (more rugby) the speed rugby uses the TMO is very nice compared to the speed of VAR, you also could’ve mentioned the ref being able to communicate to the VAR team. Sometimes in rugby you get a dodgy tackle and the ref tells the TMO to check it during play that way play can be brought back without initially slowing the game down. I can see how this would cause issues in football however for things like offsides and penalty decisions can be worked sorted while play is going. The refs having microphones is a great idea because players may start treating the ref with respect rather then swearing at him.

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I agree about the delay. I was at Palace vs Arsenal when Aubameyang was sent off, all the ref had to do was walk 10 or so meters to go to the monitor, take 5 seconds to see that it was a red and we could have continued straight away, but instead, we waited about 3 minutes for the Stockley Park to check it out. Firstly, it took too long and secondly I did not know what was going on, it has to improve.

You mentioned it at the end. My issue with VAR and offsides is that I dont believe the technology is accurate to 1mm. I think there needs to be a small margin of error within the VAR offside line that allows for the call on the field to stand.