I uploaded a short clip of the actual performance on my facebook page! Check the description above for a link

Some people don't know how to teach, but you have a natural gift to explain things well! Well done, love learning from you!

You’re walking in the Lord’s timing!! Lol We had choir this past Sunday and I used this! Thank you for your sensitivity to the Spirit, sound pastor.

I love how you use SMAART to visually point out these trouble frequencies and explain clearly each step that you are doing as you are doing it. I tend to keep use graphic EQs for outputs (FoH, Wedge) not inputs (mics) but I see whatchya doin! Definitely subscribing!

Thanks James, I'm a corporate AV specialist but I still need to understand all the basic nuances of production AV so you're helping me a lot! I really appreciate it!

Dank je wel voor alle tips welke U geeft. Ik heb helaas niet zo'n mooie mengpaneel als de uwe ter beschikking en ik treedt niet op in zo'n grote hallen maar dank zij uw uw aanwijzingen ook van uw andere video's kan ik met onze apparatuur veel beter geluid produceren dan voorheen met beduidend veel minder feedback. U doet het prachtig voor en legt het zeer duidelijk de materie uit. Mijn oprechte dank hiervoor.

Iv always had problems with the choir mics. This just opens up. Whole new world to me

Thanks for sharing! Great tips. I like that you explained what to do if you don't have the time to ring everything out.

This is incredible!!! I've never seen this before! I'm a choir teacher trying to run sound and this is a huge tip. Thank you!

just getting back into sound. Love these new digital mixers. I used to bring the system up to the brink of feedback and then move across the GEQ boosting each freq. to find the hot ones, and then cut those..... this capability is way better!!!! channel PEQ for the win!!!! Thanks for this demo.

What a great video. Thank you for perfect and amazing points .

great info. excited to hear the fruits of your labor tomorrow!

Best knowledge for pro audio on whole you tube!!

Very good information thank You for what you do

Thank you so much sir for your packaged information.

Thanks , going to need this for our Christmas special this weekend 🎄

This was so helpful man thank you!

I‘ve a lot of methods to elevate feedback of choir Mic. You have a natural db limit. The most feedback come from Monitors 1. To get no choir mics to Monitor. 2. If it is possible you can work with In ear Monitoring. 3. Or you give Dynamic mics for the 4 Voice Soprano Alt, Tenor for the best singers to get only to the Monitor. 4. Look for the room, what is possible to Place the front. Eventually work with delay Lines. 5. Sometimes it is helpful to work with compressor. But you must have experience. 6. You can cross the Pan. Left Mics to Right Boxes. 7. To work with feedback eliminator. This is like make in the video manually. 8. Look to decorate the wall, and didn‘t have no hard walls. 9. Eventually work with Gate, to reduce the open mics. All this steps are first to to until you eliminate Feedback manually. The feedback Frequences changes with temperature. With people full room. Mostly it will be better. But you must have headroom of loudness. For Soundcheck in an empty Room, you must have 30% more loudness in a full people room. I‘ll hope with this tips you have a well concert. God bless you.

Awesome vid. Always easy to follow you.Thanks.

Like a boss! Plenty of gain feedback under control!

Thanks for this! X-FDBK is good for this too.

That was great. Thank you

Wow this is a big help! Just wish I would’ve discovered it long ago lol

Fanstastic! I have to get an RTA corresponding somehow to my analogue mixer...

Thanks James

You are a good tutor. I see you are for guys who already know about mixing live sound.What is the name of that spectrum screen? Big up.

Amazing tutorials, well done sir. However, I want to know how do you setup up Smaart with a digital console and with an analog console. Please do a step by step tutorial on how to connect, setup and configure Smaart with a digital console and an analog console. Thanks

Thanks for video! Helpful tips! Newbie question: how do you adjust Gain for choir mics?

Super helpful!

Thank you so much - this demonstration is very clear! What are you thoughts if our church only has some spare Beta 58s (dynamics...) to do a spaced pair for choir in front of the main speakers?

So helpful! Thanks!!

Thanks for this video sir

Thank you, Sir, 😇🙏🌺

Awesome!!! Thank you!!!

Great vid. Thank you. What brand/model console are you using? Also have you used any of the Lake eq’s?? They work very well

Thank you for the video! Did you EQ directly on the mics Equalizers or on the EQ for the speaker? Also, do you do the same on the lead?

Hey man this is very helpful. Just a quick question. Are you EQing the mic channel or the monitor channel?

Did you route your smaart to the console or was the signal going to smart from a microphone?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have had allot of trouble with choir mics. Our church has Shure SM81s which are recommended for choirs by Shure. I have tried multiple methods and cannot seem to get enough signal to mix the room properly. It's just weak. The SM81s just always seem weak. I have the mics set at 0 DB (no pad) and used the 18 DB high pass filter roll off setting. I was able to set gain very high and used your method of ringing out the mics, which I like better than scrolling with the parametric EQ points. What mics are you using, do they have integral pre-amps built in? They sure sound great in the choir video. I am miking a 15 person choir, two rows deep, 7 in front and 8 behind staggered. Shure says to use three mics at six feet apart, two feet from the from singers (3 to 1 rule). Our budget will not allow for different mics at this point. Suggestions for better signal levels at the mixer?

James thanks a lot for the video! Can you indicate some mic models to be used with choir in church?

THANKYOU VERY MUCH

I'll take that mic placement any time. I have 2 suspended over our choir loft but the loft is on the left side of the array and somewhat out front. I've rung these things out over an over but I still can't get much gain into them unless I pan it more to the right side. Unfortunately there's no moving the choir. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks for the videos...they help greatly.

Do you have a link to the smart plugin? You may want to add it to the description. Also, your website "about us" and blog are both down. Also, have you heard of using choir mic's for congregation mic's? Is that a bad Idea?

One issue I ran across with our choir mics is that once each mic was rung out and I turned them all back on, I was getting feedback on frequencies that I had reduced on some of the mics. Our eight choir mics were acting as an array. (It's clear the architect of our worship center didn't know much about acoustics.) My solution was to zero the mics back out and tune them together. I found that when I started to get a frequency feeding back, I could usually turn off a couple of mics and turn down the frequencies on those mics. The next frequencies I would find a couple of different mics to turn down. I a frequency came back at a higher level, I would have to find a couple of different mics and turn them down part way. I went through this going back and adjusting which mics were taking care of which frequencies in order to optimize frequencies for the different parts of the choir. That's probably not the solution everyone needs, but if you are having a problem turning all the mics on after having rung out each one, consider treating them as an array. My explanation for how an array works in feedback: take two microphones in an array. Mic A hears a resonant frequency in its part of the room, but doesn't hear it coming back from the mains. However, Mic B hears the frequency in the mains and feeds it back into the system. Reducing the frequency in either mic will eliminate the feedback. Just multiply this dynamic by however many mics you are using to cover an area, and you have a fairly complex system. Do you use less mics each covering a greater area, or more mics each covering a smaller area? In the first scenario, more gain will lead to more feedback. In the second scenario, more mics will lead to more feedback. You just have to play with it to get into a sweet spot.

helpful thank you

great video! How much is the preamp gain turned up on the choir mics so that you can effectively ring them out?

How high do you low cut choir mics? I used this trick with an rta app on my phone and already has made a huge difference. I’m micing a K thru 8th grade chorus so it doesn’t even have to sound good. I just need it to not feed back! Thanks for this video James, four years later it’s still helping.

Hello! I was wondering if these frequencies need to be adjusted every Sunday? Our church is pretty small and the mics and speakers don't move much do you think we will have to do this process every Sunday?

Hi. Nice video and well explained, but If you use the peq to avoid feedbacks....what do you use to eq their voices?

dang it. I really could have used this video on Christmas eve a few days ago 🙈

Thank you very much for this video, the question i have is; is this the same as vocal eq?

Thanks!!

Great video! I have a question: Once we scooped those frequencies do we keep everything as it is or we do boost (EQ)other freqs to eq vocals or any other source?

Great video! Just curious, what mics were you using?

Question for Attaway Audio: Can you use the spectrogram to remove frequencies that create feedback to vocal and instrument mics as well as choir mics? Is this good practice or no? I typically reduce 350 - 400Hz & 1,200 - 1,400Hz on vocals since those are frequencies that can get obnoxious. Which is better practice or both?

In my church every Christmas we have a big musical with choir, vocals, band and a big orchestra! It's very challenging to put the choir in the front mix without feedback! And they still need monitors!! Witch mics you use for choir?

What did you have the gain on the mics set to? We have hanging chior mics that I'm struggling to get volume out of.

Thanks a lot

Hi James - is their a live stream I can watch of the service with the choir and band? Thanks

Do a video on crowed and ambience mic with differences in sound with different mic placement. Thx.

Also. To tune out frequencies. Do you select each mic and use its own RTA to show. Or a over all RTA for the whole sanctuary?

Hi i follow ur great videos ..got some questions..1. Do u perform this step after calibre the pre amp level ? 2. Is it the same mic ringing after cutting the feedback frequency, if so why a single mic has multiple feedback frequencies ? 3. Whats da software used for the spectrum analysis ,or its built in for mixer ...Thanks

Great content, I really enjoy your videos, but something is bugging me about this one, since you use the parametric eq of each mic to get rid of the feedback and they are limited, then you cannot eq the mics, am I correct? Is this part of the compromise or you have a solution for that? I'll be waiting for more videos :D

only question I have is how did you set the pre amp before raising the faders and ringing the mics out.?

Is it feedbacking on the PA or mons? Were you applying the EQ to the choir mics or to the wedges? Thanks for sharing!

D’oh! I used a graphic eq 😅 wished I would’ve seen this video sooner. Next time I’ll use the parametric eq.

Hello. Do you do this thing on the microphone channel eq or on the master eq? do you eliminate problematic frequencies with the soloist's microphone or the small rta on the master? thanks

I realize that I am watching this 3 years from when you posted the video. I am curious as to what software where you using to show you the frequencies for the choir mics feedback that allowed you to cut those freqs.

Good video

Hey brother I wanted to ask which microphones do you recommend for amplifying a children's choir? Thank you, Ehud

So good. Now I know you have to cut multiple frequencies for feedback, not just one

Sorry if I'm wrong but isn't graphic eq in essense a parametric eq but with fixed state? And those other bell shaped ones are state variable but both are parametric...

Hello! say you do on the master channel?

Sir do you place mic towards pa and cutting feedback? Or where do u place it

James, can you explain a bit about what type of input is your SMAART spectograph is reading. Is it channel PFL from the desk or a reference room mic?

Hi! Thanks for the tutorial! How much you hipass mics?

Hi! Can I ask what app are you using on your PC?

If I may ask, what do you think about the dbx AFS2? On paper this device should work awesome regaring filtering out nasty frequenties.

Thanks for the Video. I have some questions. 1. I Think you cut the frequencies of the microphone channels. Why didnt you cut those frequencies on the monitor channel instead of Microphone channel? Wont that change the Sound of Voice? 2. If there are 3 to for frequencies to be cut. then after using the PEQ how can one EQ the voice to Attenuate or boos some freqiencies of the voice to make it sound sweeter or nicer? Thanks in Advance

Just to be clear, are you ringing out the mic channel or the monitor (aux) feed?

Where is the gain set before pushing up the fader..? Do you ring out the monitor feedback before the microphone(s) feedback..?

What were you using to capture the signals, an output from the mixer or an rta mic out in foh

Nice video. Please where did you place the mics?

I am just awed by how narrow that EQ can go. Can i get that narrow on a Midas M32?

What RTA would you recommend as far as an APP, we dont have the set up for SMAART yet and I need to do this on a couple of mics?

How were you able to isolate the choir from the full band with the mics and choir where they were located?

Or on the input channel of the microphone?

Hi Wanna ask. Monitors are Eq d according to Microphone feedback. What happens to the band (Music) tone. Or you only Eq Vocal Aux?

@AttawayAudio What Mics are you using?

attaway is the ringing out done on FOH eq or on the choir mic channel channel eq. thanks

Where is the mic pre set to on each channel?

Please make a video on ' how to mic-up a choir ' 😅

Isn't that the exact same process for every mic (and not only for choir mocs)? 🤔

How often do you ring out your mics

Hi from Romania 🇷🇴 Can you explain my you ring out the microphone 🎤 one by one separate? Thank you 👍

OTHER QUESTION WHAT IS THE PRICE OF THE MIXER YOU USED

so won't increasing the gain on these mics to be as high as possible also pick up more of the band that is behind them?

How do you use the same Graphic EQ to knockout problematic frequencies and be able to also us it to fine tune the Mics at the same time?

Good tool but Feedback is changing and will vary depending on the people and obstacle on stage while performing ...so shall you do it again while performing?

That's pretty interesting, however in my case after ringing out mics separately, when I enable them all and turn the volume up, it is not possible to have the same level as on individual.