How to Grout Floor Tile - A Better Way that is Faster, Cleaner and Cheaper

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I don't use the traditional grouting method, which involves smothering the grout all over the floor tile. I always thought that method didn't make too much sense. Why smother the grout on the entire floor when only about 10% or less is needed?
Instead I use a grouting bag (mason bag) to grout my floor tiles. I do this for 3 main reasons:
1. It's faster to apply IMO,
2. Cleaning is much easier and faster,
3. I ensure that my grout is going into the seems/grooves
An added bonus is you end up using much less material. For this project I grouted 2 bathrooms that were 5'x8' and I used 1/2 bag of 25 lbs Maipai grout. The bag is about $15, so I spent less than $8 in material.
With this method I spent roughly 30 minutes per bathroom, which included:
- Grouting,
- Pointing,
- Cleaning
I do want to say that I would probably not use a grout bag on smaller tile like, Subway or Backsplash tile. For those jobs, I apply the grout all throughout.
Through my experience I have learned to become more efficient with my work. I found that taking the time to think about a better way to do the job is time well spent.
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@antonc81 4 ай бұрын

I did a whole bathroom this way. Grouting for the first time ever using epoxy grout. I masked the tiles off with masking tape along the gaps and used a razor blade to cut off the bits where the tape went over a gap at the intersections. Piped right into the gap, making sure it went deep into the gap. Went over the surface with a tool (steel ball on a stick). Then took off the masking tape and wiped any minimal smudges left on tile surfaces with alcohol on a rag. Taping setup took a little extra time but cleanup was a breeze and wastage was minimal.

@TrueGritDevelopment 4 ай бұрын

Steel ball on a stick, I like the idea. The masking tape is genius. Thanks for sharing 👊🏼

@liberta2570 5 ай бұрын

As a Chef and I decorate cakes too, this is exactly what I was trying to explain to my hubby to try for the tiles he needs to grout. I'm so glad I found a video to back up the idea in my head. He's going to try it now! Thanks for the video. I would suggest a silicon curved mini spatula for the groves.

@TrueGritDevelopment 5 ай бұрын

That's a great idea! Good luck with your project!

@ericmizelle1289 6 ай бұрын

A, 2, 3!😂 Couldn't let it pass. Awesome video and it is faster. Thank you!

@TrueGritDevelopment 6 ай бұрын

Bahahaha…u caught on to that. Thanks for watching my friend.

@default_user_id Жыл бұрын

For a tuck tool, 1/2" pvc pipe, short cuts and round crush ends, 1 big 1 smaller great Quiet tucks, no scratches.

@TrueGritDevelopment Жыл бұрын

Good tip

@doughill4070 3 жыл бұрын

I've been setting tile for 20 years.Please don't use his method, this grout will break out .The whole point of a rubber float pressing the grout is to get it to flow all the way down to the substrate and up under all the edges of the tile .

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback especially from a pro. Q. Wouldn’t pressing with the pointing tool or something similar achieve the same objective of pressing the grout into the open space? I could use the bag and a float to press down I suppose.

@geoffhazel2 2 жыл бұрын

that's exactly what I was thinking. this does not ensure full fill between the tiles, but spreading and pressing extra in with a grout float will accomplish that. Plus running a hard pointing tool over the edges of the tiles not ideal either.

@kimnewcom 2 жыл бұрын

Pushing it down with that jointer achives the same effect as floater

@rhauckenrol8962 Жыл бұрын

He's wiping the grout parallel to it instead of at an angle too... gotta take the sponge and wipe the grout lines at an angle

@robertbeck1376 Жыл бұрын

hes pointing tile lol at least use the grouter. how many chips scratches and air pockets he got. NONONONO

@otiswinters3674 3 жыл бұрын

Smarter and quicker way of grouting. Your grouting method will be a lifesaver for me today, since I will be installing Mapei Ultra Color FA grout which has short pot life of around an hour. Thanks for sharing your grouting method.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it & thanks for watching and supporting, really appreciate the positive feedback. Make sure you check your lines to ensure full penetration of the grout into the lines. Also, where the tile meets the tub run a bead of silicon since it’s two different materials and the tub will move causing grout to crack. Silicon will give that seem flexibility. Good luck 👍🏼

@joshbruzzi704 Жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy, had same idea, I used a plastic bag and an icing piper (for cakes). Josh from UK

@TrueGritDevelopment Жыл бұрын

Nice one! Thanks for watching 👊🏼

@Svsteelreath 8 ай бұрын

a caulking trowl works perfect

@TrueGritDevelopment 8 ай бұрын

Not sure how I didn’t think about that. Thanks for the tip. This is why I make videos too, I learn from viewers feedback. Much appreciated 👊🏼

@Z-Ack 3 жыл бұрын

Try using one of those caulk spreader hand tools. The one i got is a yellow plastic handle with a rubber triangle with different angled nubbs on the ends.. i use it for caulk edges mostly because the finger method went out the door after i sliced it open too much and splinters suck when you get that finger moving quick... but the im betting youll like the tool over the tuck pointing knife...

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

I think I know the tool you’re talking about, thanks for the tip! Thanks for watching and supporting ✊🏼

@bossdog1480 3 жыл бұрын

I've found it CRITICAL to get the first wash done no more than 15 minutes after grouting. Any longer and you're just creating a nightmare for yourself. After the first wash you can go away and comeback whenever, you'll only be removing 'dust'.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

100% you’re right, can’t wait too long for 1st clean.

@wmars4655 2 жыл бұрын

Good for a diy'er whos not wanting to buy alot of tools but us pros do it in 20 to 30 minutes with a good float and sponge dont cheap out also use the never go backwards sponging technique.

@TrueGritDevelopment 2 жыл бұрын

I am definitely not a full time tile guy, but I have used the float before. I am thinking a hybrid technique where I use the bag and float? What do you think? My gripe is having to do dip and scoop the float each time (time consuming and messy). I really appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching and supporting ✊🏼

@tjatile Жыл бұрын

@@TrueGritDevelopment I am a full time tile guy. Empty the entire bucket of grout all at one time. It stays fresher when its all together too. Don't put it back in the bucket if you have extra. Trash it. And don't mix up so much next time. I mix it with one of my grout floats in a small pail. The float can scrape the powder off the sides of the bucket, and using a drill to mix is not recommended by most grout manufacturers because it adds too much air. I would comfortably have had that bathroom spread in 10 minutes. I use a grout float in each hand. Rubber gloves, knee pads. Let it set up until joints are firm, then a quick wash with a quality sponge to define the edges of the grout lines. Then immediately hit it with a microfiber spin mop to get all of the extra moisture and haze off of the floor. Wipe down the already mostly clean bucket, and clean off the floats. Done.

@TrueGritDevelopment Жыл бұрын

That’s great info and the double float technique is a great tip, thanks for sharing 👍🏽

@mattjayclay Жыл бұрын

@@tjatile great advice thanks

@egformula 2 жыл бұрын

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@charlesarneson6856 3 жыл бұрын

Damn genius

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

You are much appreciated my friend. Thanks for watching and supporting ✊🏼

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

Good technique, but rushing left lots of gaps which took longer with the pointing tool. Rushing does not go quicker, it actually takes longer.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You’re absolutely correct about rushing. I made sure to go back and examine all the lines and make sure they’re full before drying time. I did not have my bucket and drill to mix the grout, so wasn’t as smooth and easy to come out of the bag. I do love using this technique as it elimates the need to dip a float in the bucket to grab the grout and that saves so much time in my opinion. Hey, thanks for watching!

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

True Grit Development More excellent tips! Thank you. I guy did grout on my parents’ travertine backsplash (with all those little holes, like Swiss cheese). I asked him how he didn’t fill them all up with grout. It looks great. He said Pastry Bag! 👍

@andrewskilton1086 3 жыл бұрын

@@TrueGritDevelopment try using a rubber hose without reinforcing in about 6 inches long could cut shape one end to get into corners.

@otiswinters3674 3 жыл бұрын

In two hours I was able to double the amount of grouting tiles using the masonry bag. It was hard on my back using both hands to install the grout, but my back muscles will get stronger the more I grout that way. Using the joint pointer (pointing tool) didn't work for me because I want flush grout lines. Anyway, thanks for your video.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome about the time part, not so much the back part lol. I use a cushioned pad & get on my knees for any floor work, brutal. I also work out regularly to avoid injury. I am sure the tile came out great!

@naimliss4488 3 жыл бұрын

Says it would be faster however I would have been done with the entire floor by the time he was halfway. I use the traditional method but I don't smear it all over the surface of the tile. I do it much like your method and focus solely on the grout joints. I don't understand why people think they need to smear grout over the entire wall or floor. Just get it in the joints.....

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. Believe me I’ve done both and this is far quicker than scooping grout using a float, but don’t just take my word, do it yourself. Make sure the grout bag goes into the joints and use a float to push it in. Thanks for watching.

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

On my way to Home Depot for a Pastry Bag! (Or Mason Bag)

@broderp 3 жыл бұрын

Nice idea that doesn't quite hit the mark. I'm betting you have air gaps in the seams and pressing out the grout is much harder than using traditional methods. You also smear grout when you washed, and you used dirty water. Not much different than traditional grouting in that respect. If grout was more the consistency of caulking, then maybe this would be a great idea. Mnthey could sell it in cartridges, like caulking.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. In my experience any method you use can leave gaps, it’s all about good workmanship and I think you’d agree with me on that. I did use diluted water, I think I mentioned that in the video too lol. While some grout did smear over the tile, it’s far less than traditional by a mile, again in my experience. I go back & check all my work for gaps and/or inconsistencies, I think I mentioned that too. Also, I don’t use this method on wall tile, only on floors. Much less water hits the floors, so even if I somehow missed a spot, floors are more forgiving than shower walls that, well, get showered with water 😄. Appreciate the feedback. Ps. I think they do have tubes

@trumpking4874 Жыл бұрын

They do sell grout in tubes like caulking. I’ve even used empty silicone caulk tubes to grout

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

I left a nice 1/8” gap above the bathroom & shower floors to the bottom of the walls. The floor has black grout. The walls have gray grout. I plan to squish black grout in between the floor and wall transition. I’ll prolly use the Mason Bag method on the 8x12 wall tiles too. 🧁

@bossdog1480 3 жыл бұрын

In six months you'll have black two inches up the wall from cleaning.

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

@@bossdog1480 Exactly why I don’t listen to people’s bull shit anymore. I’ve been around too long for it. Just like some moron at Home Depot could not understand my FORD key was not a transponder key. Everyone’s incredibly self confident. The dumber, the more self confident.

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

@@bossdog1480 No content, no videos, no credibility. Figures. You are fake news.

@bossdog1480 3 жыл бұрын

I do it for a living cat person. I don't feel the need to make videos.

@catlady8324 3 жыл бұрын

@@bossdog1480 Oh yea. Sure you do. Another internet expert. The comment section is nothing but experts!!! 😹And I’m a slab of granite.

@MAGAMAN 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like you did not get nearly enough grout into the gaps.

@TrueGritDevelopment 2 жыл бұрын

I went back and pressed everything in pretty good. The lines are 1/8” and tile depth wasn’t much larger than that, so the gaps are pretty small. I would also suggest using the float to press the grout in instead of a mason tool. That’s what I have been doing. I still like using the bag. Thanks for watching.

@ColdWarVet607 3 жыл бұрын

It does seem strange to spread grout over 40 sq ft of tile rather than just the 7.75 sq ft of combined grout lines. I like it. I bet you could go in to a dollar store & find some funky plastic kitchen utensil thats perfect for running down the grout lines. A wide plastic putty knife is great for collecting all the excess grout pieces on the floor, plus wont damage tile or made horrid nails on chalkboard sound!

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Haha the sound was killing me! And you know what, I had maybe 4 plastic putty knives on the job, but I was in the zone and didn’t want to stop 😆. Great idea about Dollar store, bet they got something I can use for future jobs. Thanks for the tip and watching, apprentice you 👊

@ColdWarVet607 3 жыл бұрын

@@TrueGritDevelopment Well...that screeching noise can be strangely pleasing, especially if your going to watch a horror movie with Freddie Kruger after it.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@steveweber1622 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is clearly new to the game. If you use quality grout floats you can not only pack thr grout down inbetween the lines where it needs to fill the mortar groooves and solidify with the mortar underneith. And when turned on its side it would squeege the grout off the tile. This dude took 3 times longer than he wpulf have with a float. He obviously has touch sensory issues. Dont do this

@TrueGritDevelopment 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, I think it’s a matter of preference. I have used both techniques and I don’t agree with what you said completely. When using the edge of the float as you indicated you will still end up with a lot of grout on the surface of the tile, and when you’re using textured tile it’s even worse. I’ve had professionals use a float to grout slate tile on a job and I had to spend hours getting the dried grout out of the crevices, how would you grout Slate? You are also assuming the mason bag technique is inadequate, I haven’t had any failures, have you? Lastly, I never claimed this is the end all be all technique for grouting, I simply stated that from my experience this is faster, cleaner and less costly because you are using less grout. With that said I appreciate your feedback, I like to hear other professionals opinions/experiences as I continue to improve my skill set. Thanks for watching and supporting ✊🏼

@bossdog1480 3 жыл бұрын

There's a little tool that has a 'rubber' end shaped a bit like a finger just for doing corners.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

I gotta check that out, hate using the pointing tool. Thanks for watching and supporting, much appreciated.

@mattjayclay Жыл бұрын

Sounds rude!

@schlz69 3 жыл бұрын

lost me as soon as you grouted at the tub, thats guaranteed to crack, and break out. That is a color match flexible grout calk only location.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

100%, wherever two different structures meet caulk should be used. I should have mentioned that in the video, you are correct. In this case I went back and used siliconed caulk at bottom of wall tile and floor tile where it met the tub. Thanks for watching and supporting ✊🏼

@michaelfox6409 3 жыл бұрын

@@TrueGritDevelopment great video. I can appreciate all techniques that lead to a happy client.I know plenty of guys who do it this way and just go back and caulk if/when it cracks, and they have no issues with that. But technically adding silicone after the grout does nothing for expansion, it may still have expansion issues because you filled a void that was meant for a more flexible product Regardless, it doesn't really matter it looks like you do fine work.

@donaldweihausen8156 Жыл бұрын

like with caulking, wouldn't it be better to push the grout bag rather then dragging it to ensure proper fill of the grouting gap? someone needs to make different size nozzles for different size gaps; all with the notch.

@TrueGritDevelopment Жыл бұрын

Whatever helps to get the grout in. I bet there are fancier bags with exchangeable tips.

@malupet2316 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe use a squeeze bottle like that used in ketchups.

@m.morales9417 3 жыл бұрын

Aaaggghhh the noizzze

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

I know right! Yea, prob use a plastic putty knife or something other than metal, didn’t have anything else available at the time, my bad. Hey, thanks for watching and supporting.

@m.morales9417 3 жыл бұрын

All in all,great vid.Matter of fact went to work that morning with my bag and co-workers fell in love with idea,concept and results.I couldn't get my bag back till the end of the day coworkers wouldnt give me back my bag. Keep up the good work and sharing real life scenarios

@himynameis.8710 2 жыл бұрын

Using a float would have been way quicker.

@steveweber1622 2 жыл бұрын

30 mins id have a living room done

@tawnywalden7083 2 жыл бұрын

Always grouted the wall area to help keep mold and bugs out.

@tjatile Жыл бұрын

No. That's what baseboards are for. Tile, like most flooring needs an expansion gap.

@hmsccontracting1617 3 жыл бұрын

I do not recommend this way of grouting at all. I am always looking to better my skills but his is not one of them . Grout is not just to fill the gaps, its to also fill the voids left by the notch trowel. Popped tiles?

@hmsccontracting1617 3 жыл бұрын

btw I push the grout into the gaps then wipe, I dont just just dump it on and smear it across the whole floor

@hmsccontracting1617 3 жыл бұрын

to each their own.....tho!

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. I agree the grout should be pushed into the gaps, which is also accomplished in this method. I wouldn’t go as far as recommending NOT to use the method just because you don’t use it though. Try it for your self first. I would use a float in place of the pointing tool is my only improvement.

@TLStarz 2 жыл бұрын

This is not how you do it🤔

@TrueGritDevelopment 2 жыл бұрын

Couple people said the same below, but I have yet to hear anyone confirm they had issues with this method. Here is a reply from an earlier comment: “Have not had any issues with this technique. As long as the grout is pushed into the space, you should not have any issues. Especially when using textured tile like slate, this technique is far better than normal as the grout doesn’t make its way in the nooks and crannies of the tile. Have you used this technique before? If you have and had problems, please share and let us know your experience. This is a DIY channel and we all want to learn, no egos here. Thanks for watching.”. You can’t just say this is NOT how you do it because you don’t do it this way. It’s logical, the mason bag squirts the grout into the grooves, then it’s pushed firmly into space. Plus, I specifically mention that I only do this on floor tile with bigger spacing between tiles NOT on wall tile. Try it for yourself, you will like it 👍🏼

@makmansionrecords9762 3 жыл бұрын

I literally use my finger.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Ouch! If you’re using unsanded I can see that, but man the sanded grout is rough! Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@makmansionrecords9762 3 жыл бұрын

@@TrueGritDevelopment Maybe if you have soft delicate hands. I've worked hard for 35 years. No problem.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

Lol…touché

@isaaca665 3 жыл бұрын

This is terrible advise.

@TrueGritDevelopment 3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry to hear that. Have not had any issues with this technique. As long as the grout is pushed into the space, you should not have any issues. Especially when using textured tile like slate, this technique is far better than normal as the grout doesn’t make its way in the nooks and crannies of the tile. Have you used this technique before? If you have and had problems, please share and let us know your experience. This is a DIY channel and we all want to learn, no egos here. Thanks for watching.