How to Grow Bigger SHOULDERS with PERFECT Lateral Raise Technique

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"How to Grow Bigger SHOULDERS with PERFECT Lateral Raise Technique"
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@rafaeldietrich8050
@rafaeldietrich8050 Ай бұрын
Maybe this will bring my wife back
@user-ib9ky2jo9h
@user-ib9ky2jo9h Ай бұрын
Yes
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching Ай бұрын
I will pin the comment so she will see
@SIickTurtIe
@SIickTurtIe Ай бұрын
Jesus 😆
@Joey666mu2bc
@Joey666mu2bc Ай бұрын
Not a chance
@seanissomething
@seanissomething Ай бұрын
I felt this 🥲
@RonMexico527
@RonMexico527 Ай бұрын
Hey Dr Wolf, can you do a video on Stabilizer Muscles? Like what they are, how they matter for strength/hypertrophy, etc.
@roundup1253
@roundup1253 Ай бұрын
Seated lateral raise are a complete gamechanger, this trumps standing LR for me by far. Seated you know how much momentum one usually use when standing
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus Ай бұрын
"8 seconds might not be a lot for certain things" That's not what my wife tells me 😢
@silverbackboris
@silverbackboris Ай бұрын
Don't listen to her that's a lot😮
@peterp-a-n4743
@peterp-a-n4743 Ай бұрын
*badum - tss*
@GluttonforPunishment
@GluttonforPunishment Ай бұрын
The hyper ROM is basically a Lu raise. I love these, but I don’t do them for delts alone. Above 90° it’s adding a shrug to the lateral raise. Let’s the traps and delts work together. I love it after pressing.
@K_j_M
@K_j_M Ай бұрын
I started doing these a few weeks ago, fantastic lift
@ryanpatterson9526
@ryanpatterson9526 Ай бұрын
It's the beard that makes him qualified to speak on this.
@Strengthandconditioning60
@Strengthandconditioning60 Ай бұрын
Cable lateral raises. My go to.
@SynthaPak
@SynthaPak Ай бұрын
I recently got a better cable machine for my home gym and could start doing cable lateral raises, and they are so much better than regular lateral raises especially with the cable behind the back at least for my shoulder anatomy. I actually can get some doms in side delts, can’t remember the last time I got that with regular dumbbells!
@thsstphok7937
@thsstphok7937 Ай бұрын
Do a video like this for upper traps please!!
@wesrobinson7506
@wesrobinson7506 Ай бұрын
I like this style! Short sweet and to the point!
@michaele.strasser9641
@michaele.strasser9641 Ай бұрын
I like the video, because after pull ups lateral raises are the exercise I experimented with a lot of different variations over the years... hand position, ellbow angle, leaning forward, standing, sitting, singing, dancing and so on. It's funny that very little variations can change the results from pain in the elbows (or elsewhere) to it feels good. Aside from heavy body english I am careful with discussions about what the correct technique for an individual person might be. My highly individual technique: - standing upright. Neither sitting nor leaning forward or leaning sideways (single arm) - leading with the pinky finger, but not extreme inward rotated. Elbows slightly bend. - not accelerating the first 30° of the movement too much. - lifting arms above the horizontal plane to the top of my head height. I have no clue why this works remarkable better for me. Maybe because of the longer negative phase - high rep range - boring dumbbells. I didn't find any advantage implementing a bottom stretch in any position. But this doesn't mean it don't exist.
@kalabhairava6670
@kalabhairava6670 Ай бұрын
I've been doing lateral raises leaning against a preacher pad to get more stretch and doing a lengthened superset at the end. I have never felt this level of use in my side delts before. Normal standing laterals never did anything for me but these lengthened superset preacher laterals are blowing my delts up. During the partials I usually have to go to voluntary failure instead of actual momentary muscular failure because of how potent every rep is in that lengthened position when leaning on a preacher pad. It's great.
@embiqioused
@embiqioused Ай бұрын
Saw Jeff Nippard do this and my shoulders exploded since I started doing it. Legit best exercise I’ve ever done for shoulders
@DILFDylF
@DILFDylF 21 күн бұрын
My preacher invited me over to his pad. Sounds like it worked out well for you, guess I'll text him back
@karlsen6785
@karlsen6785 Ай бұрын
What do you think about Jeff Nippards suggestion on leaning in while doing lateral raises so the tension is in the stretched postion?
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching Ай бұрын
I think it's a good variation. Better than regular lateral raises, but still not as good as a cable lateral raise or a lying dumbbell raise
@cflingo1
@cflingo1 Ай бұрын
Been enjoying Cuffed Cable Laterals which are in his Pure BB program. I prefer them actually because you can really move some weight without your grip or wrist being a limiting factor.
@Ry-ch5fd
@Ry-ch5fd Ай бұрын
Cough cough Menno Henselmans suggestion...
@papaspaulding
@papaspaulding Ай бұрын
lying dumbbell raises are a better position for that tension on the stretched position then lift the dumbbell from the floor in front of you and up
@victorvictor9662
@victorvictor9662 9 күн бұрын
@@papaspaulding Lying dumbell raises doesn't stretch the side delt Lmao. You need to have your arm pressed against your plexus for that
@warrenhenning8064
@warrenhenning8064 Ай бұрын
You must fight Dr. Mike to determine what the best lateral raise technique is. Your wolf pups are with you AWOOOOOO
@nehemiahjuan950
@nehemiahjuan950 10 сағат бұрын
Bro, don't make this weird bro
@BobFosterMedia
@BobFosterMedia Ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting on Dr. Mike's raises. I've been trying those for a couple months. I will try focusing more on the bottom stretch, but I'll probably mix it up a little.
@nygeek6471
@nygeek6471 Ай бұрын
No! I wasted months doing dr Mike’s way.. waste of time. I do cables now, and when I fail I do lengthened partials beyond failure. I lean in to put more stretch on my delts. My delts look great now. Dr Mike has been giving weird advice the past year or so.
@MrAllan5oh
@MrAllan5oh Ай бұрын
Wouldn't your advice point to cable raises as being better than dumbell? They've always felt better to me for stimulus.
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography Ай бұрын
As much as it's suppoused to work shoulders, I find the full ROM like Dr.Mike really works my lats more than partials. My lats are huge, like little bat wings or a sugar glider that come out when I flex. Up to 17lbs now.
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching Ай бұрын
Lats can never be too big 😎
@shakir4969
@shakir4969 Ай бұрын
If derek lunsford never said his lats are too big, you shouldnt too
@dillonkaseysmith
@dillonkaseysmith Ай бұрын
Mr bat are you doing them hanging upside down? Lats are responsible for the opposite motion. You may get a stretch in your lats at the peak contraction position but it doesn’t make it a lat exercise…
@martingamer5591
@martingamer5591 Ай бұрын
@@dillonkaseysmith Maybe his lats are getting a killer stimulus from stabilizing the movement.
@DILFDylF
@DILFDylF 21 күн бұрын
I do laterals without going all the way down, I feel it helps me get to failure more quickly. So my rom is probably like 60 degrees or so, 45 degrees below parallel and 15 degrees above, but only dropping all the way down at the end
@roundup1253
@roundup1253 Ай бұрын
2 plates is really nice
@clinthajjar102
@clinthajjar102 Ай бұрын
Please educate us about overreaching what it is and how long should we employ it if it has advantages.
@ahmedmiad82
@ahmedmiad82 Ай бұрын
Dropsets and compound sets vid next ?
@georgesxuereb
@georgesxuereb Ай бұрын
More info on the app please!
@berdysz9390
@berdysz9390 Ай бұрын
Speaking of your calf study. Id personaly also check len. Partials till failiure, as i think thats it preety logical that gouing till failiure is gonna do less than going past failiure
@TommyEgan.7
@TommyEgan.7 Ай бұрын
I used to watch all of Dr. Mike's videos until I saw a collaboration with u and I've been watching your videos for hours and hours every day. I've recommended u to all my military buddies. I learned the rest time of 1.5 to 2 minutes between sets from you. Also the 20 sets per week more or less for hypertrophy, but I wasn't sure if u meant per week or per workout. So if I do a chest workout then should I do 10 sets twice a week to reach the 20 ? Also, how many sets of this should we do and should I do 5 sets of just this first and then do the Shoulder Press like Dr. Mike said ? And u also taught us the 5 to 50 reps per set for hypertrophy with proper form and a slow eccentric. I'm a former special ops soldier who did 11 years in the Army and I'm now trying to grow the maximum amount of muscle I can genetically grow without using any HGH or TRT like Dr. Mike does. Please advise and thanks for all you do. I consider u the best in the business.
@Neonpleco
@Neonpleco Ай бұрын
Sets are on a weekly basis, so you should indeed spread them out depending on training frequency. Alternating between exercises that hit different muscles during a workout is to manage local and systemic fatigue like Dr. Mike says
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 Ай бұрын
I definitely ascribe to the 7 heads of the deltoid model, and do most of my lateral raises in the scapular plane. For my shoulders doing lateral raises directly to my sides causes some discomfort on top of the joint likely due to the tendon rubbing on my acromion. not everyone is going to experience this, but its worth mentioning in a "Perfect" shoulder workout video. additionally, as you mention, the standing dumbbell lateral raise isn't going to be ideal given the lack of tension in the bottom (stretched position) personally I like Cable Lateral Raises (cable set to hip height) as I can focus much more on the bottom half of the ROM. If I have to use dumbbells, taking a position like a Powell Raise (lying on my side) helps me to focus on increasing the tension in the stretched position and lengthens the side delt more than the standing variation. I'm very curious how the "Cheat Rep" trial is going because IMO cheating the weight up then lowering under control should increase the stimulus over strict reps, especially in such a shortened biased movement. Cant wait for it to be published.
@faithnfitnessguykk9569
@faithnfitnessguykk9569 Ай бұрын
That last tip was a schilling experience, but I lived through it.🙂
@Ballistichydrant
@Ballistichydrant Ай бұрын
One more to try. Light weight high volume to finish. I really like to do this after I do all the things you mentioned here🎉 Then at the very end just grab 5kg plates and do up to 30 reps . The burn is spectacular and I’ve found it to be very effective for muscle growth.❤
@brazenclips
@brazenclips Ай бұрын
4:09 doing that with Ryan Humiston’s scapular plane lateral raises with… I can’t remember if it’s called pronated or supinated grip… anyway, that variation of lat raises finishing the set with partials exploded my shoulders. Total game-changer. Insane pump and great gains. I usually only do that beyond full-rom failure on the last set, or my shoulders will be shot for 3-4 days.
@XanEli1
@XanEli1 Ай бұрын
I wish in that unpublished calf study you guys had it with 3 groups with the last having just the lengthened partials to failure so there's a fair comparison against full rom + lengthened partials to failure
@kowya5952
@kowya5952 Ай бұрын
milo i love your videos and id like to ask you a genuine question that might sound rude but i really wonder what your thought process is. it might be a longer question though and you could make a video about it im sure lots of people would be interested to know what your stance on the topic is (waiting for your reply)
@edwardguy6048
@edwardguy6048 Ай бұрын
Milo I would like to see how the squat can be done optimally.
@Rakusa1337
@Rakusa1337 Ай бұрын
Is there any advantage of doing full ROM instead of lenghtened partials? Wouldn't you want to spend your energy in the stretched position preferrably? I am really hyped for the calves study, does it translate to other muscles as well most likely?
@AndusDominae
@AndusDominae Ай бұрын
I find with high rep sets my traps are more of a limiting factor. Not that I do high rep sets for lateral raises much these days... but it held me back years trying to overcome the fatigued burning traps and never trying to lift heavier, meaning I never really got much delt stimulus. It was embarrassingly recent I figured out lifting heavier was the answer.
@papaspaulding
@papaspaulding Ай бұрын
one cue I would say which really helps isolate the side delt and form a strong mind to muscle connection with the side delt is when doing raises is to not think about 'lifting' the weight but using your shoulders to 'drag' the weight outwards and upward.
@K_j_M
@K_j_M Ай бұрын
Just push them out
@papaspaulding
@papaspaulding Ай бұрын
@@K_j_M If it works then it's good. for myself personally I find when 'pushing' them out my triceps tend to try and come into the equation, as well as it limiting the amount of weight I can use. I've found my side delts grow better with heavier weight
@KurokamiNajimi
@KurokamiNajimi Ай бұрын
I think the reason the studies find equal/more hypertrophy with LPs is because there’s not much tension past the mid range which makes sense just think about how much more weight you could move in that zone with mid/shortened partials or with accommodating resistance (chains and bands) On the opposing side shortened partials compared to full ROM isn’t as good overall because with full ROM the participants who aren’t that well trained will get more well rounded stimulus. You have to consider limb length as well with average/short arms presses and pulls are usually mid range or only semi lengthened by default So basically I don’t think the lengthened position itself is magically and we should try to balance lengthened-mid-shortened. If you’ve never done LPs, camber benching, preacher curls, etc of course you’re gonna make gains off of it because you’re overloading lengthened more than you ever have
@bopndop2347
@bopndop2347 Ай бұрын
I just do plate lu raises, high reps. Good for shoulders etc
@shuaibchoat3425
@shuaibchoat3425 Ай бұрын
Just in time for shoulder day...
@ghost1234445
@ghost1234445 Ай бұрын
I know normally people talk about protein recommendations for caloric intake, but I was wondering if there was any type of recommendations for fats and carbs that helped with muscle growth?
@gxymxr
@gxymxr Ай бұрын
For cable lateral raises, could you increase the stretch by turning a bit towards your arm?
@KGafterdark
@KGafterdark Ай бұрын
Dr Milo, what's your EXPERT opinion on supersetting with negatives? I found that I can get a couple of extra reps if I overhead press the dumbbells and then control the eccentric of a super ROM lateral raise.
@godbless965
@godbless965 Ай бұрын
This activate front delt more than side delt ?
@keithx6559
@keithx6559 Ай бұрын
Please, make a video about how to get a sharp jawline that will cut through walls.
@otislammertyn7343
@otislammertyn7343 Ай бұрын
Is lifting the weights a little bit more forward also good?
@ozzy6162
@ozzy6162 Ай бұрын
Milo - the exercises that give me the biggest problems in terms of form are.... reverse crunches & hanging knee/leg raises. Is there a way of making sure my hips initiate the movement for these exercises? I tend to end up just moving my knees & legs which does nothing for my lower abs. It may be that not having my bottom 2 discs, following several back ops over the years, is the reason why I find initiating the movement with my hips so difficult.
@rememberme3762
@rememberme3762 Ай бұрын
would doing dropsets with lengthened partial supersets be just as effective as normal lengthening partial supersets?
@moneymaker-ju1mq
@moneymaker-ju1mq Ай бұрын
there nees to be tension in the lengthened position
@Maiwa-wk9yh
@Maiwa-wk9yh 7 күн бұрын
Jeff cavalier actually did the partials with side raises like 5+ years ago xd
@CrazyGamer-hq6gs
@CrazyGamer-hq6gs Ай бұрын
wolf coach whats your height and weight when you hit 2 plates ohp
@TheHybrid350
@TheHybrid350 Ай бұрын
Great
@gabrielrangel956
@gabrielrangel956 Ай бұрын
What about slightly leaning forward to put more emphasis on the side delts? I some sometimes do it just because it feels nicer on my shoulders and I feel it more on the side delts
@flow1188
@flow1188 Ай бұрын
same time with Dr. Mike :P
@espantube
@espantube Ай бұрын
Don't know why, but I can only feel my triceps burning when doing flat lying dumbbell side raises. Any tips on how to do them properly so they target the delts better?
@RussellDeacon
@RussellDeacon Ай бұрын
Maybe you aren't feeling the tris?
@lucaslouzada44
@lucaslouzada44 Ай бұрын
This RP super ROM lateral raise is basically a partial of a Lu lateral raise, missing on the back component of the exercise. As such, it begs a biomechanic justification.
@jasonellis9777
@jasonellis9777 Ай бұрын
Do you honestly think it’s possible to gain calf size? I have started this sitting in the stretch and only coming up basically to parallel. See how it goes.
@christianduval8374
@christianduval8374 Ай бұрын
What is the latest literature on -ve only training?
@esembee7717
@esembee7717 Ай бұрын
So John Meadows was on to something with including heavy weight and high rep partial laterals?
@bryandaluga9077
@bryandaluga9077 13 күн бұрын
I’ve always wanted to know how they gauge muscle growth. Like when he says 50% more muscle growth, how do they measure that?? Do they see .5lbs of muscle gained in 1 study vs .75lbs in another??
@rj43214
@rj43214 Ай бұрын
I'd be interested in a breakdown of the research that explains sensitivity to anabolic stimulus following deloads/layoffs and at different stages of development. I hear this claim and it seems plausible. All to answer two questions: 1) Would more frequent layoffs lead to more growth in the long term. 2) Does age (50+) mitigate any benefit (if there is one) of layoff since sarcopenia is forever erasing muscle.
@Pain53924
@Pain53924 Ай бұрын
Cables Lateral raises ftw
@JonathanDLynch
@JonathanDLynch Ай бұрын
A 4 second eccentric might not make much difference for hypertrophy, vs a 2 second eccentric, but wouldn't a 4 second eccentric help protect and strengthen the tendons more?
@freddym6643
@freddym6643 Ай бұрын
Why do any dumbells rather than just cables? And what about upright rows?
@magne6049
@magne6049 Ай бұрын
variation is good
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus Ай бұрын
IMO if cables are available they are strictly better than front / lateral raise, but not everyone has a gym membership or a gym with cable machines, and even if your gym does have cables, they may be in limited supply with high demand and you don't have time to wait. There's also people who argue for a "maximalist" approach, where you want to include exercises that are hardest in the stretch and exercises that are hardest at the contraction. Basement Bodybuilding talked about this in his latest video if you want a better explanation.
@gokukakarot1855
@gokukakarot1855 Ай бұрын
Cables are better due to constant tension in stretched position
@jakubchrobry3701
@jakubchrobry3701 Ай бұрын
You can do lengthened partials with cables at the end of the set. I cross-over my arms to get the stretch, and my max range is not much wider than my hips. My side delts blew up after doing these. I often do isometric holds with my arms at my sides. The cables are pulling perpendicular to my body from the side (90 degrees as compared to gravity).
@isaacrichter2895
@isaacrichter2895 Ай бұрын
Wish we had a lateral raise machine at our gym, with consistent tension through the whole motion.
@viktorpetkov8568
@viktorpetkov8568 Ай бұрын
6:05 damn the acting is crazy
@phsc7
@phsc7 Ай бұрын
GOAT
@MrDjhealth
@MrDjhealth Ай бұрын
if lengthen partials were so great, then for lateral raises why wouldn't you use very heavy dumbbells and just do mini raises about 1/4 the way up?
@ThaKKatt
@ThaKKatt Ай бұрын
No cable action?? I suppose a DB tutorial isn't a bad thing; edit: I should say thanks for the video docta wolf
@jvm-tv
@jvm-tv Ай бұрын
10 mins video that could've been a short
@dyl923gonz7
@dyl923gonz7 Ай бұрын
see the santa cruz shirt, you skate?
@thedudeabides5201
@thedudeabides5201 Ай бұрын
The name's Wolf, Milo Wolf. Shaken, not stirred.
@WiecznieNieNasycony
@WiecznieNieNasycony Ай бұрын
Do it on incline bench less Technique is needed there)
@loganwolv3393
@loganwolv3393 Ай бұрын
I love the Super ROM lateral raises since i get quite a stimulus for my upper traps and still getting roughly 90% of the growth for my side delts since i can still bang out lengthened partials after i can't go full ROM.
@killerkhatiby009
@killerkhatiby009 Ай бұрын
Dr. Wolf, in that calf study you mentioned where the lengthened superset group saw more growth, if there was a third group that just did an extra full ROM set matching the number of extra reps done in the lengthened superset group after full ROM failure, do you think growth would be similar in those 2 groups? Basically, trying to match total reps (or volume-load somewhat) a little more closely but achieving it via lengthened partial vs full ROM reps and seeing which results in more growth. That seems like it would actually explain if it was just the extra reps/work done or extra reps specifically in the lengthened position that resulted in more growth.
@killerkhatiby009
@killerkhatiby009 Ай бұрын
A within-participant design study where you do single leg calf raises where one leg does lengthened supersets after full ROM failure, and the other leg just matches the same total number of reps with full ROM either via an extra set or some rest-pause technique or something, would be interesting to compare the two ranges of motion in a more rep-matched scenario and see if the lengthened supersets really results in more growth.
@gokukakarot1855
@gokukakarot1855 Ай бұрын
For the algorithm
@spideylover4105
@spideylover4105 Ай бұрын
Everyone sleeps on the Scott Press
@user-ii7xc1ry3x
@user-ii7xc1ry3x Ай бұрын
That's what I call a BOuLDer introductory statement 🗿
@chrislong1287
@chrislong1287 Ай бұрын
Well, no one will accuse him of using peds
@isaacrichter2895
@isaacrichter2895 Ай бұрын
Load under tension... Why move quickly at the bottom of the movement when there's little to no load there? Seems like you're just robbing the upper part of the motion with cheap momentum.
@rafael_ellanios2708
@rafael_ellanios2708 Ай бұрын
Please make a video about Myo reps mach sets of mike Israel
@PTarahb
@PTarahb Ай бұрын
I can stop doing super roms??? 😭😭😭
@MrMalzers
@MrMalzers Ай бұрын
I''ve become a big fan of using a bench that is set pretty high to rest/push my chest against while doing lateral raises. I first seen it with john meadows years ago he shows it here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM97h5qhub26e30.html&ab_channel=mountaindog1 Wondering what your opinion is on this method? I feel like it is helpful for me to focus solely on the movement rather than keeping my body stable and trying not to get my back, hips, etc involved when fatigue is setting in.
@cuchulainn1967
@cuchulainn1967 Ай бұрын
" Boulder shoulders"...Where are yours?!
@user-io6dq6bg4m
@user-io6dq6bg4m Ай бұрын
Would love to see a pushup and a pull up video. Thanks!
@MaxBadstibner
@MaxBadstibner Ай бұрын
PhD in Yapping
@prabharani7843
@prabharani7843 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@moneymaker-ju1mq
@moneymaker-ju1mq Ай бұрын
Looks like you shortened the beard the beard gaines would be better if you lengthened it!
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching Ай бұрын
WE’RE WORKING ON IT MR. MONEYMAKER
@lukeharris2622
@lukeharris2622 Ай бұрын
💪✝️
@scottsherman5262
@scottsherman5262 Ай бұрын
I refuse to believe that anyone can lateral raise "the hundreds" as you say around the 1:15 mark. I also refuse to believe that any dude has a penis over 7"...that's just crazy talk that doesn't exist in reality.
@lolololalala8225
@lolololalala8225 12 күн бұрын
But you have pebble sized shoulders.
@MA-ik7ys
@MA-ik7ys Ай бұрын
my shoulders are bigger than yours and all i do is tricep kick backs
@moneymaker-ju1mq
@moneymaker-ju1mq Ай бұрын
I hate when they always do studies on calves like aint nobody care about calves
@macedonius717
@macedonius717 Ай бұрын
No views, Milo fell off hard
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching Ай бұрын
:(
@bojanrajacic5045
@bojanrajacic5045 Ай бұрын
This "science based" stuff is getting ridiculous. 8 sec eccentric is awesome, at 9 seconds it's ultra bad 😂
@GeorgeL909
@GeorgeL909 Ай бұрын
That's not at all what he's saying. Up to 8 seconds eccentric provides similar results in hypertrophy. Once you hit 9 seconds it starts to be *slightly less optimal* meaning slight diminishing returns. The big text on the video says optimal, and that's what these guidelines are for. The data doesn't show that sharp a decline after 9 seconds, just a very small amount.
@franklincone4636
@franklincone4636 Ай бұрын
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