Fat Shamer whenever somebody phrases something like that to me it sucks lol. It works and it’s nice, but it hurts.

That comment is so general. What does it mean by chill out? Let someone with pressure steam roll you? It's hard to chill under a lot of Force.

"Let loose!"- my climbing instructor.

@@axwackThis advice it’s just not good I have been doing bjj for 4 months and trying to find my style I have noticed that if u chill too much people take advantage of you so the best way is if someone is going aggressive on you, you go aggressive on them simple chilling out too much makes you a bitch

DeadMan Mouse How old are you now?

@@mightymouse652 twelve and a half

@@harrysingh-tj5pu harryyyy, you're going to make him feel inbaressed

DeadMan Mouse you just don’t use the skills you learn on untrained or traind people in the street those skills are for the ring

Embarrassed*

Neil Gray Did he stick around after that?

yup he did. Hes a descent guy, ex-military, good hearted dude but had no concept of pace or respect for smaller/less athletic/less skilled dance partners. Reminds me of Bam-Bam from the Flintstones lol. He still rolls hard but his awareness is much better.

Neil Gray thats good

Neil Gray what's humble pie

Good god is it big Fa Iano Scherner

i agree. ur teacher sounds good

u do need to take it down slightly with women tho, Ive seen some get hurt and even quit, its not fair

How can you not accidentally injure sometimes?

@@VladTheChad1 we all get injured eventually but the basic idea is simple: training has a competitive element but its not an actual competition (the way that a tourney is) much less an actual fight. How many times have you been told that tapping is learning? The biggest causes of preventable injury that Ive seen and experienced in training come from people caring more than they should about "winning". Whether its newbies who spaz out or people trying to prove themselves or the ones who dont want to be embarrassed by getting caught by someone they think they should "beat" it all comes to the same thing: people caring too much about "winning" a roll. Its a roll, not the damn ADCC Finals lol.

@@harageilucid4352 i agree training is training. I never ever try to hurt anyone and I could care less if I “win” a roll. But it’s a combat sport not patty cake. Injuries will happen sadly

i can relate to your story 100%

I've been in a situation where I started to realize that as well. *most people* aren't being an asshole on purpose. They just don't notice it, and because I went through a similar situation it's easier to tell if someone is doing it on purpose or not. This is a big problem in society though, a lot of people don't see this and will jump on the hate train too early. Take cops for example, they did something questionable *once* and the whole world turns on the cop. They don't realize people make mistakes.

To win in Judo you need that aggressive explosiveness to make your throws and win so I always had that ... but when i started bjj I noticed that taking the judo approach is wrong. You can get injured and injure your partner PLUS you’ll have a shitty ass technique.

@@jsbfkdls Sparring hard is not a mistake. You just have to tell your partners what you prefer. If you spar ten times with someone, absolutely hate it and don't tell him, that you absolutely hated it, the fault is all yours. Similarly with going too soft. Gotta tell others to go harder on you.

I haven't been to a single martial arts competition that wasn't physically exhausting, fast paced and aggressive. I understand pacing. I understand not blowing everything out of your a*s in the first round. I also understand that you have to meet strength and speed with strength and speed in a fight and If you think you can relax when your opponent is on the attack and not letting up you will be defeated in a couple of minutes no matter how good your technique is. This of course assuming you're competing with someone in your weight category and of the same gender which people tend to do in competitions. I'm sorry to burst your bubble guys but If you think there's any way that performing at the highest level isn't exhausting then you've never done a competition in your life. I would also be very careful if you practice Judo or JJJ. There are some decent gyms out there but I've seen a lot of schools where they barely even spar and when they do the level of resistance is not what it should be. They are almost teaching people to allow themselves to be thrown when they do Randori n some cases. You'll often see how good these people are when they step into a decent MMA or BJJ gym for the first time and get a rude awakening.

You need to find a GOOD bjj school then. Far too many schools just let people "free choose" who to roll with; Our professor actually monitors who trains with whom - that way he can make sure that if he has a possibly over-aggressive white belt, he can pair them with a blue belt who will curtail the aggression. He pairs the women up with upper belt men ONLY (who he trusts can manage their output of aggression) - or with upper belt teens and other women. Someone having a negative experience with Jiu-Jitsu does nothing positive for you as a partner, or for the school or the martial art in general.

Man it's obvious and basic, if you use strenght and brute force you will hurt your partners, i mean, that aikido dojo maybe wasn't good since the teacher didn't showed you the correct form. I train bjj and im white, always know when to stop and i know when im being too agressive, even training with smaller people i don't put all my weight on them because i know they can't do anything. (I weight 230lbs/110kg) If i have a lock (Armlock, kimura, americana...) and they don't tap i dont keep going agressive because i know i can hurt them, and that's the mistake, most people go full force on a lock and don't know when to stop. If it's a lock and it is applied correctly he shouldn't escape and you can go slowly so he feel the pain and tapout. Just my experience here.

Tom Archer I get where you’re coming from but I can say that there are white belts who think they’re hot shit, and are assholes. I should know I got submitted by 4 of em yesterday. ( my first day ) and I don’t say they’re assholes because they submitted me, I say it because they had a shitty attitude. I don’t mind getting knocked around, but I can’t stand lack of respect.

Universal Kombat can agree with you to a point, as some girls are just to weak to go against guys. but disagree, as some girls can take a beating and give it back. maybe he is just a dick and wants to feel like he is the most powerful guy on mat, and the teacher is fed up with babysitting an over aggressive prick.

This story reminded me of something that happened when I was a white belt in judo. I was being uke for a guy practicing a new throw when suddenly the instructor came over and chewed me out for being "defensive." I was brand new and had no idea I was doing something wrong. Some instructors seem to forget that new people often aren't aware of what their body is doing.

Richard Ngo except his response pointing out the guys mistrement of "women" was pretty darn sexist. Shouldn't matter who he is doing it too. Should only matter the behavior.

@@TheBashar327 Sparring with someone is not mistreatment. If you'd like to spar softer, it's on you to say that.

@@MrCmon113 , reread my statement. "Mistreatment" was not the topic.

Should've sued

DEFINITELY should have sued. He didn't care when he was doing it, he only cared when there might be consequences

I would have sued the shit outta that douche

What a fuckwit!

and he’s a cop? yikes

Same here. They always paired me with this one guy because were both very tall and same height. But he was always hurting me hexing overly aggressive when training. He’s a three stripe blue belt and I had only been there for a couple of weeks. The last straw was when he mounted me and said “so this is how you die” at that point I was done and never came back. Not sure why gyms always keep gym cancers like that, beating up on white belts. Totally not cool

Wtf just TELL him. How tf is he supposed to know to go softer if you don't tell him? I roll very differently with different people, because they have different preferences. Some people like to grind it out, some people like flow rolling, some people like to talk and try out stuff all the time, some people like to go slow, some fast. It's all about communication.

In wrestling we did a lot of stuff i thought was normal. When i went to bjj, i lost a lot of respect for jiu jitsu guys. Eventually i found a gym of former wrestlers who became jiu jitsu guys and i fit in better. Different gyms have different attitudes. If you cant take someone knuckling your ribs, youre probably a pussy.

x z, It’s not that he can’t take it; it’s that Jiu Jitsu is about using leverage and technique to accomplish your goal, not brute force and athleticism. Making your opponent uncomfortable with a really hard cross face or a fist in the ribs doesn’t work; it’s just super annoying. If you’re in competition, okay, but there’s no point in irritating the hell out of your training partner. There are a lot of moves from wrestling that are valuable; I wrestled and still catch Jiu Jitsu guys with unexpected takedowns all the time. If you have to rely on being rough to win, though, it means you’re not very skilled.

@@anthonypetrillo841 How is a fist in the ribs any more rough than tearing apart someone's knees?

John Smith same. 100%. In the back of my mind i think what if i do something that makes them feel uncomfortable without realising and people think i did it intentionally. It’s not worth the hassle

I understand but I think it's good for them to contend with as much of a challenge as they're capable of dealing with - not too hard so they are hurt but enough so that they feel challenged and get better. I don't think anyone gains enough from going too easy.

John Smith That first sentence is awfully Freudian lol... Timid, interesting word choice

John Smith Roll You never met a woman like me then.

Mixed Martial Arts & Yoga I don't know you, but I'm going to throw something at ya and hopefully it sticks. Not everyone is created equally. There are exceptional men, there are exceptional women. These guys are talking about women *in general* . I'm sure you are a very capable woman, but most women aren't capable of rolling with a man at 100%. Same experience, same skills, man beats woman 99/100. It's a physical activity, and most men are superior *physically* to women. Nothing degrading about that. A woman could definitely achieve higher skills, and I could definitely see a black belt woman tapping most white belt males. Absolutely. But black belt on black belt, I'm betting on the guy (with no knowledge other than their sex and rank). Hopefully that longwinded anecdote is worth something to you. If not, I'll stfu and keep it moving.

Just bcs you're winning doesn't mean you have anything to teach. When I smash someone I tell them they should consult one of the coaches or online instructionals, bcs I'm not experienced enough to give good advice.

This is very true and wise. Fighting is more psychological than it is physical. If you're not right psychologically than physically you won't be either. Mind and body connection is constant and your mentality comes out physically, even during training.

It's a fighting sport, not a knitting meet. By going as soft as possible every single time, you're not just screwing yourself out of a learning experience, but also everyone you roll with. It's the same as with weight lifting or running, etc. If you are so overly careful that you are not at risk of any sort of injury, you won't get anywhere.

@@TII331 That sounds like the fortune cookie saying that an aikido master would produce before being knocked out. Why would going the softest it is possible to go prepare you mentally for a fight?

Sparring hard against a skilled opponent as a punishment is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. Not only is that disgustingly authoritarian, it also makes me wonder why you are even there if you don't ever want to go serious with someone good. Also bjj is already notorious for people going super soft and slow. It's a breath of fresh air when a "spazzy" new guy comes in, aka someone moving at normal human speed.

was he having a match or a seizure....

Punching or headbutting during a roll multiple times is essentially asking to be put into something uncomfortable quickly. I've seen newer guys spaz out and flail their arms around. Nothing teaches guys to keep their elbows in and controlled like a double armbar.

I just tell them to stop flailing about and if they are confused about what to do I give them some tips. this has proven very effective

@@42elmiguel You're expressing your anger in the same way you're training your sports. That's extremely stupid and reveals that you never actually disentangled sparring from aggression.

IMO that's a sign of a shit teacher that he didn't set boundaries properly

Your opinion is hot garbage and literally nobody cares what you think.

ur rather toxic & hateful aren't u? U shud train urself to be less worthless

It's not a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I'm not toxic & angry like u. Ur teacher didn't stop white belts hurting people. BJJ moves are very powerful & can cause long term injury to ligaments but ur teacher didn't think to warn people. That's a sign of a shit teacher

@@alwaysdisputin9930 My hypocrisy senses are tingling.

You're welcome! Thanks for your comment. Glad the video was helpful.

Dev E are you seriously bragging about having a white belt?

Reverend Marvelous I was just saying- having a weight and an athletic advantage on some people regardless of belt comes with consideration. For example: I roll with an old timer brown belt sometimes- he has had a hip replacement. I could pass his guard quite easily by attacking the leg attached to said hip, but that comes with the risk of possibly injuring him. Should I? No. The short felt win of “beating” a brown belt is not worth the loss of a friend, and a knowledgeable coach. Just a tangent here- people should brag about being a white belt. Being a white belt in any martial art means you have the humility, and the bravery to embark on a journey that takes considerable time and effort- while admitting your ignorance in the beginning. Recognition of something you don’t know isn’t shameful- it is the first step to becoming a professional.

Dev E oh. Ok.

Reverend Marvelous piss off

s foot unless the woman is the attacker, then you get to batter the fuck out of her. Yeeeeehaw!!!!

Don't mess with Texas Just tone it down so people don't get seriously injured,or have them train at the intensity close to realistic for some time and then let them go hard as they can.

Thing is if she is trying to learn a technique or trying to learn how to utilize a technique, having to constantly focus on not getting hurt by someone else focusing on their own training doesnt help her grow. She is just your hitting partner at that point. True, women will need to go up against larger opponents, but they also need to understand the technique and you just cant do that if your opponent is trying to hurt you. You cant even focus. You go into fight or flight mode and cant think straight... not a proper learning envirinment.

as a woman i chose to stay in the ''normal'' mens class because of this reason. i want to be prepared and get used to the feeling of having a stronger, bigger or heavier opponent. However i have experience some assholes in my time, where they use brute force to tap you out. or when you are close to submitting them they instantly go berserk mode with full power to hurt you. one time a guy stood up, while i had my quard closed around him and smashed me down onto the floor with my back, what kind of bullshit is that? the smash was so bad my lungs felt like the collapsed. when we are learning a new technique how is this going to help any of us? sometimes i see new girls joining and after a week they are gone :( such shitty experiences make people quit and leave. Also @tawhneebaby i agree with you fully

Rippingthosecheeks Hey It will make you less of a man because woman are simply not built to withstand the power a man can dish out where as a man can not only withstand her power, but it'll literally do nothing to him physically. Why strike back when he could do easily restrain, walk away, or even hold her at arms lenght to avoid being hit? Can a woman restrain a man to avoid being hit? Can she out run him? Can she kill with one punch? You will always be less than when you retaliate on a physically weaker person. Just like a woman will be less of a woman beating up someone in a wheel chair. Even if the man has stronger bone density to withstand an attack from a women's bare hands, she is still a coward for even touching him or anyone physically weaker. How can you claim a man is not less than if he hits back even in self defense when the he has plenty of other methods he could use? All those options that he has a woman will never have in that same situation. She will always be at a disadvantage no matter what happens, so why make it worst? Its like a child constantly slapping me in the face, punching me, it's not doing much to me physically, hey the child might even get lucky and hit a sweet spot n actually draw some blood. That's nothing because one smack not even full power will send him flying across the room. Why should I or anyone do that though? When I could just restrain him, walk away, even run away. A man could restrain both a woman and a child if he wanted to, that's how much of a difference in physical power we have. But anyways back to the child, do I say he wants to act like an adult so I'll treat him like one? No I can't say that because no rational adult acts like that. Just like you can't say to a woman, if you want to act like a man I'll treat you like a man. Because it's not true either no rational man acts like that.

He prob just thinks your a pussy and it irritates him so that's how he's gonna treat u.

Just a beta getting a beating from an Alpha... lol shut up ya ppoooooooose

Bruh, if someone plays too hard and you don't like it, it's on YOU to say it. It's not on others to read your mind. You're the problem here. Not the aggro-boomer.

@@MrCmon113 nope, if you have untreated anger issues and you play a sport like a dickwad it’s your fault

You get better by actually trying to win. If you're never putting up resistance, you're basically doing aikido. If safety is first, stop sparring altogether. Stop doing sports altogether.

BJJ is slowly becoming like Japanese Jiu Jitsu McDojos. Unathletic nerds and women are taking over gyms. There's a lot of denial about it, but it's true. Who would have thought that pandering to weaklings in a fighting art is not a good idea? I wonder...

@@carthagodelendaest1612 Even if it's mostly tough guys everyone is going at 80% speed or slower per default. It's fine to not always spar hard, but it seems like most places never do. And that's not "technique" training either. To actually apply a "technique" means to be able to do it on someone resisting to 100%,not someone resisting a tiny bit as an alibi.

Peter Lee exactly! Japanese culture has it down pretty well, Brazilian/American not so much.

@@td4yd154 Nope, you can't just judge the whole bjj school system just by watching some KZfaq videos and comments. LOL

@@td4yd154 Japanese culture is extremely authoritarian, racist and un-empathetic. The "philosophy" of BJJ is that Brazilians are best and Helio Gracie a god. The "philosophy" of JJ is that Japanese are best and samurai in particular.

Brian Kessler shit you should of known after you broke the girls rib fam that’s just a lack of emotional intelligence read a body language book and look at ques

But you are right they should of been upfront about it

You were 6'4, 275 lbs, lifted weights and seriously hurt several people (men & women) and you still have to ask if you need to ease up??? What kind of a "master" lets that happen in his dojo? Reading this and the attitude of a lot of the men in these comments is making me change my mind about bjj. I would love to learn it for self-defense but if a man (or woman) came at me like it was a real fight I would NEVER come back ( I would probably be in the hospital anyway.) It's a little like throwing someone who can't swim into the deep end of the pool and saying "well YOU wanted to learn how to swim..." that's why we have LESSONS and TEACHERS. I'm so shocked by all this attitude. I want to PRACTICE with you. Do you think a woman ever forgets that she might be that 1 in 3 that gets attacked/sexually assaulted at some point in her life? Now I have to contend with the misuse of male power when I'm trying to learn to defend myself against it? No thanks.

I wish I could train in some Judo

I am a white belt, 175 pounds solid muscle and a lot stronger than guys my size. I can often times beat blues based on brute strength. Rolling with females makes me really focus on technique because they not trying to muscle me. I have gotten a lot better rolling with the girls because they are all technique focused and I scalw down my stength to also focus mostly on skill. And no, there has never been any type of sexual tension or whatever (even with the attractive partners) who are trying to break my arm.

@@cobes11 i don't understand. can you elaborate. the whole premise on this video seems to be that it is bad for men to injure women during BJJ? or rather men that are too aggressive towards women in BJJ. Can you even explain what that means? What is "too aggressive" and why are you applying this in one case only. Men towards women. How about men that are too aggressive to men. Or women who are too aggressive to men. Or women that are too aggressive towards women. What I see here is a sexism against men and a total disregard for the right of men to defend themselves against women.

Sorry to respond late, but you shouldn’t take that. That’s bad training etiquette, should’ve told that guy straight up that he goes too hard and needs to tone it back, and if not, he needs to find someone else. Injuries aren’t worth it.

@@austindaily3091 He moved earlier this year, in fact I was having a hard time remembering who I was talking about as this post was a year ago, haha. But, I haven't really experienced much injuries in Jiujitsu ever since he left. I'm also in much better shape than I was then (I'm anywhere between 165-169 and have a meal replacement that gives me all the vitamins and nutrients I need to recover properly from a good day of training - honestly, I think the recovery is more important than my weight though).

@@metalmayfantasy That’s good. I used to take the idea of toughing it out, but I had a similar experience that made me change my mind. I submitted this guy that had like 100 pounds on me, and next time he just went 150% and, I believe, intentionally hurt me. Haven’t seen him sense haha but after that I just have 0 tolerance for people going rough. Weight definitely isn’t an issue! Recovery is so much more important, not like we’re fighters with a weight class lol! Glad to hear you’re doing well man.

Bro, that's 100% your own fault. If you prefer to spar softer, it's your responsibility to COMMUNICATE that. Others cannot read your thoughts. Sparring is all about communication.

@@austindaily3091 There is no "too hard". There is just a different way than what you prefer. You don't tell people that they go "too hard", that is bullshit. You tell people that you want to spar softer.

No, it's not. You can always pull punches. That doesn't require preparation. Punching hard requires preparation. The reason to spar soft is because sparring harder is more risky. It's a risk-reward tradeoff.

tie oneon I would not support men on women fights in an official mma setting, because mma is more than grappling (which evens the playing field). I did enjoy watching a woman fight recently though against a stupid internet troll lol! If women want to spar with men in their own gym though, more power to them. I do myself every week

Did you apologize? I’m curious to what happened

Do you have experience in any other martial arts or gombat sports?

did u smash?

outstanding....beginners most of time go all out TO SURVIVE.

Erik McCray That's an interesting perspective. I can totally understand that even though I hadn't ever thought of it. I'm a woman in her 40s and I am one of those folks who hates it when people "go easy" on me.

I think a reasonable approach for a guy rolling with a smaller woman (of equal or lesser rank/experience) is to roll controlled and technical by default initially. If the woman, like punky, doesn't want you to go easy then I think she should have to ask you to go harder. Maybe she might want you to go 100% with your A-game stuff. There is a big heavy very skilled competitive purple belt at my gym who is very very conscious when rolling with smaller people (almost everyone as this dude is big). If you want to feel his 'heavy game', then you specifically have to ask him. Ive seen him in competition tap someone because of his pressure in side control.

Same, I also feel awkward ending up in certain positions / certain body parts touching, if its a male you kinda laugh about it or dont notice it, but id hate to be that guy accused of something

@@GreyRockMusic If I felt awkward about that, I would feel more awkward about touching my coach. If you can sit on another guy's face, you should be able to grab some boob.

Rachel C can relate to this too much 😂😂

Well... Unless they're all just nasty pieces of work it's probably the fact they don't want to get submitted by a girl... At that age that would be completely humiliating to them... Solution: Girls role with girls, guys with guys?

Fakrul Islam I mean I honeslty feel like I get better rolls from the guys and I know the boys in my gym wouldn’t intentionally hurt me ? But most of the dudes I roll know I’ve been doing this most of my life so are okay with the fact I could tap them out in situations , it’s just a fact I’ve had my face busted by most of the boys and never the girls

@BeetleBUMxX sure, it shouldn't be but unfortunately it is sometimes.... And these are teenagers so obviously not as mature as they will be in a few years you'd think. Just on the pride thing, in only my second or third session with zero martial arts experience, I had blue belts and even purples I think, going all out on me because they didn't want to be the guy being made to look bad in front of their instructor by a complete beginner (with just some strength training behind him and a height and weight advantage.)

So the boys need to tone down the level of intensity they want to train at just to suit you? Maybe you shouldn’t train with boys

I know how you feel, man I ve hurted a new guy one time, because a tried a throw i didnt know to use and he left the gym too But after some months i found him and apologize, suddenly i found the peace

Man, I'd roll in a tutu and take knitting classes if it would get me more mat time. Your comments are so ignorant and insecure that you'd think you'd never actually practiced any martial art, let alone practiced with women who'd kick the crap out of you.

I've been triangle choked by a girl half my size. An ego that is so fragile it can't admit to honestly losing is not one worth having.

I'll admit I might not know how men are at this point, my sample size might honestly be too small or skewed. Thanks for your replies and patience.

this also is how our gym does things, instead of letting everyone roll with the girls and finding out who is unsafe that way, we only let people roll with the girls and smallpeople when we have established that they are safe.

The entire purpose of sparring is to try to win. You don't have to give 100% every time, but you do have to try to win. Otherwise your training isn't any better than a dance course and you're on route to become as useless as an aikido master. Also "real" confidence, that is justified confidence, comes precisely from proving yourself to others. The alternative is unjustified, unwise confidence, that exists in the absence of competence. Ie delusion.

Quit wasting your time and find a place that meets what you want as a customer.

Leave

Mind if I ask which martial arts ?

don't mess with texas that isn't really true, no matter how great your teacher is if you want a mix of stand up and grappling and the school is only offering one you are in the wrong place. this is just one example of a time when the style is quite important. I however would like more info from the initial poster like what is he lokoing for. self defense, competition, etc

Buk Hum Noi we practice go gyu ryu karate ( hard soft style) but we practice “koisen bujitsu” which is a mix of karate, tai chi, and traditional jujitsu

Ashley Ruth I think with better positional understanding and transitioning you should be able to get the sub. As for strength disparity, it might always be there.

Dirrty would be biting and so on, using strength to get out of something is ok. But long term doesn't improve the game.

So your reply is to attack manliness? Sounds like you're a piece of shit .

Zamolxes' shadow eh dude what is your definition of manliness?

First rule: don't let a bitch dictate what it is.

Sounds like you're vindictive assholes. Sparring is for getting better, not punishing people.

I just saw this again and you're actually a thoroughly disgusting person. It's like a climbing instructor throwing someone down a cliff.

@@MrCmon113 No the difference is the guy had been warned about it in the past. This is fairly common when someone is consistently NOT A GOOD TRAINING PARTNER!

That sucks. Are you all good now? Did you continue to train

@@106adamm Yep, I am all good and healed. After recovering, I was back on the mat. BJJ is far too much fun for me to stay away from. One crazy guy isn't making me think twice about going -- in fact it made me want to learn the martial art even more. Plus, majority of the guys I roll with are amazing people.

@@daniellezoe5494 Awesome! I’ve been training about 3 months now and it’s frustrating rolling with overly aggressive people that just end up hurting you! Loving it so far though

@@106adamm Awesome, keep it up. It's worth the pains and frustrations. When you roll, it's like being a kid again. So much fun.

... and you told him to go lighter?

i'm sorry u got hurt by not getting as much attention as them. Maybe ur mum could give u some instead?

You need a new gym.

@@alwaysdisputin9930 well I can see his point women always want equilty so that's what they should be given the only exception is you should go a bit easier on women so they you don't harm them but they should get the same amount of attention

You're too sensitive

I empathize with you. I am beyond tired of the constant sexism displayed against men...where we are expected to promote and uplift and clap for whatever woman comes to train in jiu jitsu. It ruins the club frankly. The more they are catered to - the more it ruins them and the club. Go find other guys to train with.

Adam Pratt please stop on in. And yeah rough rolling aggressive guys is standard practice. My ramble makes it sound more eloquent than what it is haha.

Arthur Mel I caution women about their hair. It is natural to grab their hair and in real life this is just what will happen.

Sarah Watson yeah. I can’t get myself to do that. I wouldn’t grab guys long hair so I won’t with females either. Lol

Doesn't need to have anything to do with women. I'm a guy with very long hair and I do MMA. I braid them before training and then it's really no problem. It's not even painful when they get pulled which I have to explain to newer people sometimes.

Eh, I disagree. I see it closer to lifting. There's a lot to be gained from lifting at different rep ranges. Not just as hard as possible.