Thanks! Not necessarily, you can set one up as an access point so it just broadcasts the main connection.

It's very hard to gauge without the actual home plans. But I'd guess to install the modem in the db box but try to connect it to a master router in bedroom 2. And then connect another mesh node in the living room. As for specific cabling connections, there are multiple ways to go about doing it but it depends on the house layout.

Ya the d1 to d6 is a patch panel to the rooms for all newer hdbs. As much as I would like to do a video one a full rack, the general public won't find it helpful.

They would probably send some technician to resolve general issues but the best is still if you can take the time to understand how networking works and then resolve it yourself if possible.

@@SherBooga bro I realized I have this old SCV port in my room. I remember I use it before but not sure why I stopped using it.

Should work. For most routers, 2 nodes are usually enough for a 4 room bto, but I find that sometimes signal gets bad in the corners of the house, so I usually recommend 3 if possible. Also, do check the Ethernet vs wireless backhaul for your setup

@@SherBooga Thanks for the quick reply.. i intend to get Mesh router 3 nodes.. wired using the provided LAN point by HDB. So i can also use the switch for multiple LAN for various devices?

Yup if your setup is similar to mine, then it should work

@@SherBooga Tks alot

We specifically left it out to generalise as there are tons of routers out there with different configurations. What are your routers that you're trying to configure?

Yes the signal will not be able to reach as far as it could have. Supposedly you have 2 mesh nodes, the main one will have to take in the WAN, and then 1 more for Ethernet backhaul, the other node will need to have 1 to accept the Ethernet.

HDB. The newer houses should have this

If you search Taobao there is a lot of 86 Wall AP from TP Link. Like TL-XAP3032GI-PoE Cheap and good, there is a better variant for AX6000 now but that's overkill. You can just swap the existing faceplate and don't have to headache where to place AP in various rooms. Only thing is you need PoE switch / router for this.

@@Magurosenbei nah

It should work!

Yes it will definitely be affected and not ideal for routers to be in db boxes in general. However in the case of AX6000 or AX11000, I don't think it will matter too much in terms of signal strength for a 4-5 room flat as they are extremely powerful routers. Even if it really is an issue, you can easily add the isp provided router as an access point. The more interesting thing to consider is if the router can fit into the db box properly if you are planning to do carpentry over or change the db box doors.

I configured it to do handovers when a certain distance/signa strength l is reached so I don't see the issue most of the time

Using default settings, no. The router will need to be providing the internet to each of the input if you want everything to be in the same network.

If you have a patch panel (D1-D6 thing), then i think it should be possible to leave your ONT in the db box, connect to the patch panel and to your router in the study. However, you should also be aware that it will be slightly more of a hassle to upgrade or use more ports in the future.

In theory, yes because it has more work to do and also depends on the number of devices it's serving as well.

Because the AX88U will be servicing more devices and traffic so it needs more resources. It would be an overkill for 2x AX88U and too costly. Even my setup is an overkill. So I would recommend cheaper alternatives.

Are you planning to use the AiMesh setup? If you are, another RT-AX58U would do pretty well. If you are not and you just want wifi for the rest of the house, maybe just a wireless access point like Unifi's UniFI6 Lite would help. If you require both wired and wifi, then I'll suggest just getting the AX58U and use AiMesh. It should adequately cover the house and more hassle free than getting a network switch and wireless access point for the study. Feel free to let us know what other requirements you're looking at like budget, devices, etc. if you need more suggestions.

@@SherBooga yes I’m gonna use AiMesh. Also highly recommended by my friend who is also using the same setup/routers as you. Since I’m redoing all cables for my new house, I am going to go wired. Similar to you, it will be wired from the main router in the living to my study room’s router which will be connected via LAN to 2 PCs (gaming/work). My master and rest of house will be using WiFi since usage might not be as heavy. I guess probably just some light browsing/social media. Just not sure if the AX58U WiFi coverage is decent enough to cover the other parts of the house (flat size abt 1248sqft). I did consider AX88U too (like your setup) but you mentioned “overkill” in your case, so I thought it might be the same for me too.. Well, for budget wise, I’m willing to pay abit more if it is what I need. Just don’t need to overspend on stuff we don’t need. Cos you know, reno already very expensive hahahaha 😄

I think 2x AX58U would work for your case. If your layout is similar to mine, then the problem areas are going to probably be the service yard and the master toilet. In my case, both areas still have decent speed for light browsing and social media so it should be fine for yours. Worst case scenario, use the isp router as a wireless access point but doubt you'll need it.

@@SherBooga Sure, thanks for your advice. Will try going with this.

The wifi connection is to the study router which is sufficiently strong enough,so didn't experience any noticeable lag

Nope. Because the router will be routing the network from the modem to the D1-D6 patch panel in the db box. The ideal is of course to put it in the living room in my set up, so modem to D1 and then D1 to router in living room. But then I will need to have a cable back from the living room to the db box patch panel. If not, D2 to D6 will be useless. The router has to be the device to route to all the patch panel ports.

If you are using velop and giving no real problems, I suggest you can continue to use it, the only downside is that it's WiFi 5 but unless you have a lot of WiFi 6 devices, you won't notice much differences. However, if you are setting up for a new place with new devices, my suggestion is to always try to get someone to do the lan ports for you. Otherwise, I think both x50 or x60 should be fine depending on the size of the house (x60 for bigger house), although the best is still to connect the nodes via ethernet cable.

@@SherBooga im kinda tempted to get the Orbi RBK752 though.. that can at least improve the download speed compared to a 4 year old Velop yes? 😅

Depends on the use case, if you're only doing basic web browsing and nothing heavy duty, then there is little upside of getting a 1Gbps plan in my opinion. I think there's an article on seedly that kinda explains it.

It will definitely be weaker. But not completely gone.

Got it from Shopee, Ugreen brand. I was worried about the possible issues that may come with slimmer cables but it has been OK so far.

Hi. Which cat is your lan cables?

Cat 6a

It should be OK. But then you should also know that this will limit the number of ports you can use in the future as the router is not in the db box

Yup, main reason is that by doing that, say ont to my living room port to my router, for me to have LAN access to my study as shown in the video, I would have to find a way to run the ethernet cable either from my living room to my study, or run another ethernet cable back to the db box to access the d1-d3 switch and then to my study. As I didnt want to do anything extra, this was the solution I went ahead with. If I only require one router with WiFi to the rest of the house, I will opt for the solution you've written. Correct me if I miss out something here.

@@SherBooga yeap! I will run the same solution as u. Haha just asking for the context, generally, will benefit more if the router wasn't put in the cupboard, 5Ghz signal will be weaker under comparison and the range for it to go further into the house.

Yea definitely to not put the router in the db box unless there are no other choices.

@@SherBooga i do have a suggestion which is to switch ur more powerful router (AX-88U) with the one in your study or even put it at the living room, then shift ur switch to the study room instead. (depends on network coverage). This way i felt would better optimise the network coverage... or rather make full use of the more powerful router.... So in essence its: ONT to AX58U to D1-D3. Then AX88U can choose to relocate to either D1-3 location. HDB really nid to relook into their networking or go for networking courses!! who designs a router to be at one end of a house and worse, in a box!

I was toying with the idea before moving in as well, but in our use case, the router in the db box would ultimately service more devices. The stronger cpu and more ram would then be more useful here. However, I've tried both routers in both locations and they don't have much differences in terms of noticeable speed so I guess it boils down to what's the use case for your house.

Yup, from Ugreen. First time using though, no issues so far.

Unfortunately, packet loss can be due to a lot of things. One way in which I think you can start troubleshooting is to start eliminating possible issues. I would suggest connecting via ethernet cable to the router directly and see if you have those issues. After that, connect via ethernet to the range extender to make sure that the range extender is the issue. You can also try if connecting via WiFi to the range extender has lesser/more packet loss and find the cause of the issue from there. Unfortunately, you're right. Range extenders from how you described it should be running on power lines which is known to cause intermittent connection issues, it's still best to connect to ethernet ports. Hope it'll not be too costly when you eventually make the upgrade!

Example making it an RG? Previously that was the setup. But I just recently got a change to fibre. And I confused with this myrepublic guy suggestion.

Most modems and routers settings do not need to change too much from the default settings. Id suggest talking to the myrepublic person to see if they can walk you through step by step

You can but I believe it will be in a different network as compared to the one provided by your router. If you just want to access Internet, then it should be fine. But if you want to set up LAN servers or shared drives then you'll need to take note of this.

The first device from the fibre modem should be one of the routers, you can attach the splitter after the router and then connect to the D1-D4. It should work for standard devices, but please check with someone if the particular model you're looking at works this way.

​@@SherBooga thanks!! how about if i connect the lan cables from modem output straight to D1-D4 ports (if there is enough ports available), instead of going through the router? would there be any issues?

Yes there would be issues. The first device after the modem should be the router, if not you will find that some of the devices will not have Internet

Can search for slim Ethernet cables online, got quite a few. My first time using as well until now no issues so far.

@@SherBooga Great thank you for your reply.

Highly depends on the specifications. Some mesh routers have pretty good internal antenna as well. Consult a salesperson to compare the models before buying.

The ONT or fibre modem will be connected to your ftp in the living room and then the router will be connected to the modem. If your ISP provided a ONR (combination of ONT and router) then it should be connected there as well. Whether you want more routers or nodes to be placed around the house depends on the cabling around the ftp.

You probably can connect them to use them as wireless access points, but it won't be in a mesh setup and requires some configuration of the routers. I don't have the equipment to test this setup but in theory it should work.

The default settings should work. But depends on the router model

@@SherBooga Haha thanks for your quick response. Since mine is StarHub provider, I am getting the old model Linksys EA8100, I guess should be alright.

@@SherBooga Thanks for your quick response. Mine is StarHub provider, so I am using the default router Linksys EA8100 given by StarHub. I guess should be alright without any configuration.

Thank you for your response. Mine network is StarHub so I am using Linksys EA8100 router. Hopefully should be alright without any setup configuration.

It should be ok

Usually no, but if you have the same cabling as ours as shown in our video, you have to put one in the utility box for it to route traffic to the other ethernet ports. If not you'd have to route the traffic back somehow.

@@SherBooga thx!

I would prefer the split starts after the switch.

Hey, nope I haven't experienced it so far

I’m using the TUF-AX5400 as my router in bedroom 3. It is the wifi broadcast for my entire hse. On average, devices can get 2 bar signal and can reach 200-300mbps. My MBR PC is connected to the wall lan point, which is connected to router #1 in my db box

Try plugging a pc or laptop directly to the main router via LAN if there is no issue, maybe check the connection or any intermediary hardware between mbr and the router. If it's the same 600-700Mbps then there could be an issue with the settings in the TUF router or if you have another lan cable, try it. Unfortunately there could be a whole bunch of issues and we can only go by process of elimination.

Yes it does. Depending on your home setup it may vary wildly

@@SherBooga Can you kindly help me with this question? Is it possible that i connect Ethernet cable direct from ISP modem to d1-d6 and have my router placed in my living room instead of db box? or must it be like From Isp to Asus Router to d1-d6 as shown in your video? Thanks in advance

It is possible. But if you need to connect another device to the router from the bedroom, for example, a pc. it is not possible to do so unless you have a way to get the router in the living room to connect back to the db box and then to the bedroom pc. If you have no such requirement, then putting the router in the living room is no issue.

Yes, it should be possible, but then that will be your only device that has Internet

@@SherBooga noice. Just feeding my curiosity. Thanks for the quick reply!

The 2gbps is usually a 2 x 1gbps, so you can have dedicated bandwidth, please check with the ISP if that's what you really want. If its a new place, I would recommend WiFi 6 as it's the newer one. But because there's not a lot of devices which support WiFi 6 as of now (besides the newer laptops and phones) there's honestly not too much differences. If it saves you quite a bit of money, you can look at WiFi 5.

@@SherBooga so let say I sign for WiFi 6 but maybe some of my device doesn't support WiFi 6, does your device still able to connect to the internet? And I got 1 more questions, can I connect ONT straight to the D1-D7 provided by HDB to my mesh WiFi router in living room?

Yes. WiFi 6 devices should be backward compatible. Also yes it should be able to.

If that's the case, it is highly likely the case where the connection between the main router and the room router is not connected or configured properly

Between which devices? From ont modem to router, yes. From router to the D1-D6 patch panel, yes. At least for default setup as shown in the video.

@@SherBooga So I am trying to connect my router to my TV in living room through D1 port. I connect the router to D1 of patch panel and use a cat5e cable to connect my TV with the D1 port in living room but it does not work. I am not entirely sure if the cable used for router and patch panel is cat6 but guess I will try to use a cat6 cable for my TV and see if it works. Thanks!

Cat 6 cable should be backward compatible. I have a feeling it might be something else. Instead of the patch panel, can you connect to a device from your router just to check that the patch panel or the cables are not faulty

@SherBooga ya I actually tried connecting the router directly to my laptop and it works fine

Sounds like an interesting issue, hope you'll be able to get it to work.

Two should be enough for most houses, and you can add a new one in the future if you need to

Ax6600 × 2 or the high more better

Personally, I prefer the Asus because of additional better processing power, lan ports and tri band but I don't remember their specs off the top of my head so I might be wrong.

Any model Asus can?

Does it work but the LED is off? There's a setting in the router config that turns off the LED I believe and I'm wondering if you switched it off

@@SherBooga it shows turned on, according to the APP it’s working but I can’t tell tbh haha

Could be a firmware issue, could be a hardware issue. If it's just 7 months I'll contact their support tbh and see if they have a way to troubleshoot or maybe it's just a faulty model