How to Make Sterilized Grain Bags for Mushroom Growing

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2 жыл бұрын

In today's class, I'll be going over how to make your very own sterilized grain bags at home from start to finish.
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@brennonmorning9682 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I want to add a manufacturer's recommendation from Unicorn Grow Bags. Unicorn states that you should not "Gusset Fold" your bags and instead "Flat Fold" them. The way you folded the top of the bag before sterilization by folding in the gussets in before folding the bag down is considered the gusset fold. Instead you should flatten the opening of the bag with no folds and then fold it down and under the bag.

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I missed his videos on flat folding. I'm very happy you pointed that out. I will definitely be flat folding going forward with my bags.

@patricknevermind8529 2 жыл бұрын

Bro, thank you.

@TearringNable 2 жыл бұрын

Curious, why would it make a difference between folds? Would it make sealing easier or is this for added grow room?

@kdock13 2 жыл бұрын

@@TearringNable The gusset fold means that your impulse sealer needs seal through 4 layers of plastic, making 2 seals, instead of 1 layer. This increases the risk of blowouts/leaks. You should also adjust your sealer so that you get a good tight seal in one pulse without burning the bag. Doing a second seal in a different spot is definitely a good idea.

@80polishprincess 2 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyGoldenTeacher can you tell me where you got your hood? This is a piece I'm thinking of either buying or making. Do you favor the bags over jars?

@pottervi 2 жыл бұрын

I started my journey into mycology about 15 years ago before youtube was really a thing. I had to read for hundreds of hours on the shroomery, and watch the couple vids RR had. Your videos are ultra clear and to the point. Simple teks explained very well without any bs that you don't need. I wish your videos were around back then

@holothurie 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Thank you Sir PGT

@adamxt3hxpwner 2 жыл бұрын

But still john, thanks for all your research over the years. the last 15 years myco has come a long way.

@pottervi 2 жыл бұрын

@@adamxt3hxpwner oh fer sure. I hardly got into agar because you couldn't get supplies as easily back in the day. To start I had to go buy agar strips from an Asian market and grind it up with my coffee grinder lol. But now with Amazon and youtube it's cheap and easy. I'm excited to try the 2oz condiment cup thing. Also making a flow hood looks a lot easier now. Its amazing

@LarsLarsen77 2 жыл бұрын

And you usually got the worst advice ever on shroomery. I actually had to figure everything out by trial and error myself because the "tek" was always a failure.

@pottervi 2 жыл бұрын

@@LarsLarsen77 it wasn't too bad. Was able to grow more than I needed so everyone benefited.

@Muay_Thai_Mycology 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos mate! I’m finally getting back into cultivating after years of foraging 👌

@thomashugh7086 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting a new video I'm so stoked to start trying my hand at gourmet growing. That and reishi and cordracepts eventually

@luplex7567 2 жыл бұрын

that is by far the most informative cannel about shrooms, like if you wanna start you will ONLY need that channel. amazing

@ericcartman7102 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this up! As of this week I was curious about stepping it up with bags, so funny you upload right after my curiosities. The universe is running on all cylinders today

@michaelhudson3445 2 жыл бұрын

i really like the mesh gate panel over the saw horses i'm gonna have to do that excellent!

@gargoylekingGWO Жыл бұрын

U and Willy are a treasure to the world keep shining like yaw do

@TheNativeNation 2 жыл бұрын

Word bro. Glad to see ya back in class!

@ronnienoneyabusiness2844 2 жыл бұрын

I had problems with bags but i wasn't pcing them long enough...thanks for the info pgt

@dustinbrady8900 2 жыл бұрын

You have a very kind soothing voice.

@cg9747 2 жыл бұрын

You're the man. You're videos are very easy to follow, too.

@BaltimoresBerzerker 2 жыл бұрын

Bags are awesome 😎 thanks for the idea about the screws!

@Readlong247 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for suggesting adding coffee grounds to the bag to soak of moisture. I didn't have any but I did toss about quarter cup of brf into each of my two pounds bags

@johnwayne420 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and knowledge I was just going to upgrade to bags good timing. I hope all is well

@shellieb1792 Жыл бұрын

I am loving your videos! I am a newbie to trying to grow mushrooms. You are making it easy for me to get the growing experience that is needed to be successful. Thanks so much.

@Jaycomma 6 ай бұрын

How did the grow go?

@chitsu1388 2 жыл бұрын

I just want you know the things you put out there, the information you give, the tutorials you show, they save SO many people. You have healed many people, and will heal many more. Mush love

@duogarcotic 2 жыл бұрын

Video I was looking for a few days ago 😂 crazy u just came out with it a few days later 👍🏻

@gp8699 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning why you leave the filter patch on the outside when you fold the bag to put in the pressure cooker!

@koopher 17 күн бұрын

Omg the rag/pressure valve thing makes me wonder how much time I have spent waiting. Nice trick.

@MacCelium 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all you do.

@cyberdurden1284 2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered adhesive injection ports with your promo code. Thanks.

@tmorrissey5112 2 жыл бұрын

You taught me everything I know man!!! I’m doing an uncle Ben two right now then doing some mono tubs. Thanks for the new vids I was hoping to see some new stuff. One thing I’ll say is following everything to a T I still have trouble getting lots of pins. Only One dubtub I’ve ever had pinned a lot. I have “gotten it down” in my head they just won’t pin across like all the videos do, even though most show the best results possible and don’t show the problem grows I feel like I get less than normal results… TIA!!! Mush Love from CO.

@marskat8530 2 жыл бұрын

Have you been using a liner in your tub? He recently made a video about this and it made my grow 10x better

@AaronAlso 2 жыл бұрын

Safety tip: You can use a butter knife to lift the vent for 10 - 15 sec to encourage sealing.

@misfitmaniac3084 2 жыл бұрын

Yooo Philly Geee on a dailyyyy!!

@peppergrowmienola4850 Жыл бұрын

This was awesome info. As a mycologist I am looking to widen my skills with agar and grain bags. This video has me confident I can make sterile bags of grain no problem. 👍

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

Wish you the best on your journey! 🙏🍄

@markmettles9148 2 жыл бұрын

Love the vid! Was curious what kind of laminar flow hood you use? Tried looking through your products used but didn’t see that at all.

@Vorpal_Wit Жыл бұрын

Hey Sensei. Can you cover prepping the bags for fruiting - like where/how to cut the bag for the first and any subsequent flushes, things to watch for/avoid, etc? Thanks.

@ScottWConvid19 Жыл бұрын

This isn't substrate. This is grain spawn. You don't fruit grain spawn unless it's a cordyceps fungi. You add the fully colonized grain spawn to substrate

@MaggieF59 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. I finally found a video I could easily understand and follow.

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad it helps! 🙏🍄

@tootegozy4998 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clear instructions and a great video. I grow oyster mushrooms and didn't know that I can put my grow bags into the pressure cooker.

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

😁

@cambiapieles__ 28 күн бұрын

¡Gran video, amigo fungicultor!

@tylerallen9856 2 жыл бұрын

Chyea brah 🤘☮️. I'm sure oysters love it all but I've been doing bags with brown rice/millet. Wicked quick colonization.

@toddwmac 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks PGT, great stuff as always. Do you usually use LC in you bags or do you also use agar? Your agar videos got me hooked on working with agar but I've not used bags yet and was wondering if there are any tips. Thanks!

@samwilliams7863 2 жыл бұрын

Good looks bro

@josephklein7921 2 жыл бұрын

Yay!!! I’m up early for class!!! Here’s an apple for the teacher!!🍎😁

@pkgmsu 2 ай бұрын

And this guy is awesome so much helpful information

@mypilogy2571 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you my brother.

@frankfrank6541 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you very much.

@bigshoots1181 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid! Do you have an idea on the grain to water ratio would be for milo?

@doncromwelljr4926 Жыл бұрын

Should i add gypsum to my grains while they soak? By the way. Your videos are an absolute godsend...

@erictjones Жыл бұрын

Great instructional video!

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😄

@guyfawkes6657 2 жыл бұрын

TY! PGT

@JohnSmoke-ih1ow 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Ohilly

@waynegreenway5445 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Sensei. How long after processing in the pressure cooker are the bags considered clean and viable? How long can the be stored for at room temp or refrigerated? Thanks!

@christismith659 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this! How long do these bags keep before you need to innculate?

@adamxt3hxpwner 2 жыл бұрын

PGT! it's nice to see you back. I hope everything is going good for you. I'm just suggesting a video about all your supplies that you purchase. I have bought most of the stuff you have used and shown us, and it could help a new mycologist a lot. Everything I bought works great. Thanks for everything, man.

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 2 жыл бұрын

I'll add that to my list of video ideas. Thank you for the suggestion.

@avadakedavra6695 Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyGoldenTeacher hello sensi. Can you help me with my rye ? Can I just soak the rye in cold water for 12 hours and then use it as inoculum? I'm new to mycology and you really helped me out. Thanks

@theresasteinbacher 6 ай бұрын

I love your video. I noticed you didn't wash or cook the millet like you did for the brown rice. Is this because Millet is a small grain? TY. Theresa

@MM-jt3nf 2 жыл бұрын

hey PGT, can you make a video on your room set up and stuff

@sgtpepper.6511 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Thanks..!!

@failure2leisure847 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks!

@badmachine7862 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the good advice. Do you have a recipe for sawdust spawn bags using hardwood fuel pellets. There are several that have varying amounts of water, some with gypsum some not etc. Want use it to inoculate outdoor beds and reckon the critters would eat grain spawn.

@pamelajohnson5056 Жыл бұрын

Loving the lessons. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@theinhtikezaw428 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@iminvisible0 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I did the same thing with nuts and bolts to make a trivet 😄 Depending on the diameter and material of your holy plate, a bolt leg in the middle will prevent it from sagging under weight.

@markchick8385 Жыл бұрын

Use Aluminum.Or as I did You'll have a rusty mess.

@JohnSmoke-ih1ow 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Duque1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you❤️

@xspells 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha dude drew is awesome I had no idea u recommended him. See and this is why ur the master my friend

@miladbozorgnia3571 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for sharing. I apologize if you’ve already answered this question but how long do you let your millet soak in the bags after adding the water before putting them inside the pressure canner? Thank you very much. Your instruction style is GOLD!!🙏🏼🙏🏼

@excelself 6 ай бұрын

He doesn’t soak them per say just adds the water 9:29 after all it’s called “no soak millet”

@tyo6896 2 жыл бұрын

Clever mod friend 👌 😀

@TheElan5 2 жыл бұрын

You always release videos right after I try something for the first time 😂 You’re the man. Can’t wait to take a stab at this no soak no simmer millet tek. Can you do it with bird seed that’s had SF seeds poured off?

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 2 жыл бұрын

It's possible with birdseed, I personally haven't done no soak no simmer on birdseed with bags, but I have done it with jars. There will be a video coming out about no soak no simmer grains in the near future here.

@TheElan5 2 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyGoldenTeacher Amazing, thank you for this! I've seen a few teks circulating that I want to try. It just baffles me that whole white millet is more expensive than bird seed. Thanks for all you've done for this community!

@HiTechFX Жыл бұрын

Thanks brother, your insight makes the process easier.

@xojioghbiu Жыл бұрын

Thank you for healing ports

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

🙏

@alexaguilar2653 Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

😁🙏

@magesticmushroomgarden6914 2 жыл бұрын

ive always been fine pressure cooking oat jars for 1 hour.

@LarsLarsen77 6 ай бұрын

It's not just the larger volume of grains that takes more time. The plastic bags are more insulating than glass is, that is they have a lower thermal conductivity. Even massive mayonnaise jars cook faster than even small bags.

@friklefrunk743 Ай бұрын

Just started my grow journey for the 1st time wish me luck ❤

@dontwasteammo1271 Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

Thank you as well for being a part of this journey! 🙏

@OrgoneDevices47 2 жыл бұрын

If you dont have a Impulse Sealer for the end sealing, a vacuum sealer works if u press down a lil bit n do it like twice...

@longfeatherlong8228 2 жыл бұрын

Also aluminum foil on both sides and an iron.

@omg_wtf 2 жыл бұрын

@@longfeatherlong8228 the wife's hair straighters with some paper towel also works great :)

@hourglassmycology1840 2 жыл бұрын

Mush love!

@hourglassmycology1840 2 жыл бұрын

PGT bringing the light to so many. Thank you brother 🙏 you and 90SM gotta collaborate on one for us!

@Parikchp Ай бұрын

Hi PGT great video. A quick question, I don’t have a flow hood, would it be advisable to seal the bags before the sterilisation process? The filter should help exchange of air anyways…

@troy37 2 күн бұрын

Man listen your bags look so perfect, can you do a bag folding tutorial? I need to look like yours! And my bags were full of static electricity how do i fix that!

@jmichel70 Жыл бұрын

Thank you,

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Жыл бұрын

🙏🍄

@abgoldate 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could use the same 1:2 water/grain tek in jars also.

@longfeatherlong8228 2 жыл бұрын

I do.

@426superbee4 11 ай бұрын

can use malt o meal for the medium. for spores

@avadakedavra6695 Жыл бұрын

@phillygoldenteacher How do I prepare my rye ? I know I shouldn't cook it until it's broken but can I just soak it in cold water for 12 hours and then use it as a base for inoculum?

@marcusbostick3246 Жыл бұрын

can you use Black cow manure for mushroom grow bags

@shardj5151 5 ай бұрын

Does the micron filter pressed up against the plastic like that not prevent air flow too much?

@briancunningham3283 2 жыл бұрын

I am a new sub and will try some of your methods this weekend. What are some good edible mushroom strain that are easy to grow at home. Cubes for sure but was looking at others if I plan on making a big batch of grain spawn

@tyrannosaurusgirl1612 2 жыл бұрын

My hubby is growing Lion’s Mane…. It’s currently fruiting, and we haven’t had this much fun in years. It’s like Christmas morning when we get up everyday, to check on them. Tbh, just watching the life cycle of fungi has probably done more to lift our spirits over the past month, than the pharmaceuticals we’ve both taken for years. Safe Travels!

@planetofthegapes Жыл бұрын

@@tyrannosaurusgirl1612 -- it's really satisfying, isn't it? I said to a friend recently, you don't just get the "fruit of your labours" at the end (although that's a great motivator), you also get to see quick turnaround in terms of your effort within 2-8 weeks.

@tyrannosaurusgirl1612 Жыл бұрын

@@planetofthegapes most rewarding hobby EVERRRRR!!!!!

@etnobotanicaperu Жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR SHARING MY FRIEND, the birdseeds hydrated in hot water ? or cold boiled water, For how many hours ? thank you and that you are very well,

@patches1107 Жыл бұрын

Will an Instapot work to sterilize? it doesnt quite get up to te same PSI but maybe extending cook time will help?

@jessebrobin 11 ай бұрын

how long did you let the millet soak for?

@EvolvedCognition 11 ай бұрын

So I'm inclined, due to ease of access & your video supporting that brown rice is the best grain for spawning, to use brown rice. In this vid there's an opportunity to elaborate on what the language "Now here I have some oats [or interchangeable grain?] & bird seeds that I've soaked overnight with some hot water." This suggests the water was kept hot for a 7-8 hour period; how was this accomplished, assuming that language is accurate? There's a fan in the frame, was that used, post soak, to decrease overall moisture levels? If so, for how long? Inquiring minds need to now the minutia without a need to guess. :) Thank you!

@davidkalk2451 Жыл бұрын

PGT, greetings! If a grain bag is faulty after, pressure cooking, can it be rebagged and reprocessed? Rookie mistake, maybe: before sealing I opened the top and fluffed the oats from the outside. Then I doubled sealed it with my food saver. Did I infect it enough to need to reprocess or pitch? On top of that I pressure’d 3lb. Bags for only 90 minutes. Opinions and suggestions?

@feelsoezy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey PGT I am following your broke Boi guide but I'm just looking for the next step placing them into containers after jars. Did it get removed? Where can I find it?

@thesuburbanelectric 2 жыл бұрын

Why do you run Millet without pre-hydrating, but not the Oats?

@joncampbell5021 2 жыл бұрын

Not all hero’s wear capes, some wear antlers.

@greatwhitecoyote 6 ай бұрын

If you're using millet, does it change the prep work for grain bags ?

@dobb1984 10 ай бұрын

If you're doing a grain to grain transfer, can you do that before you seal these up?

@michaelholbert5042 9 ай бұрын

If you have millet mixed with bird seas, do have a different water to millet ratio than shown in this video?

@TheOffCycle Жыл бұрын

Can brown rice be used? If so what’s the process? It will be for pink oyster liquid culture inoculation

@Thebigbendfungicompany 2 жыл бұрын

Nice modification on the PC plate

@raysosa3531 2 жыл бұрын

I have a quick question for you. I have a Crockpot pressure cooker. The manual says it goes up to 10psi. I know to sterilize popcorn for mushrooms it has to be 15psi. If I were to simply leave them in longer than 3hrs would that suffice?

@Shroomvizion 11 ай бұрын

What do you recommend jars or bags? I’m trying out making bags myself. 50/50 success with purchasing pre sterile bags. I like jars a little more.

@crookedmouth7221 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the no soak oat tek? - it's by far the easiest tek I've tried so far. 2lbs of oats, 1.5lb water in a bag and pc for 2 hours. So simple and effective

@markchick8385 Жыл бұрын

If Your Not PC'ing for 2 hours and 30 minutes Studies show that is the perfect Time, Not 90 minutes not 2 hours 2 hours and 30 minutes At Least.

@hemifrost3990 11 ай бұрын

@@markchick8385why is that? Can some stuff survive if it’s under 2hr30m?

@raquiti 2 жыл бұрын

PGT thanks for this amazing video! Quick question - can you seal the grain bags before sterilization since they have a filter? Or is that an issue? I don’t have a flow hood so would like for everything to remain sterile inside. Thank youuuu! 🍄

@donnyjuan7532 2 жыл бұрын

do not do that watch the humble fungus no soak no simmer video!!

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 2 жыл бұрын

You don't want to do that. As the pressure changes within the bag, having them sealed up could cause them to blow.

@BaltimoresBerzerker 2 жыл бұрын

Fold a flap at the opening of the bag and fold the excess bag around the grain like in the video. The flap will form an easy to open seal while being pressure cooked. Now you don't have to worry about sealing the bags until after you inoculate the grains, unless you're just using a bag clip.

@LarsLarsen77 2 жыл бұрын

It is absolutely possible to do, but you have to use a 0.5 filter bag and you have to remove ALL of the air from it before you put it in the PC. You also have to put a plate on top of it and make sure it's not touching the walls at all. So basically you can only do one large bag, with maybe 6 pounds of grain per run. You also have to cook it for way longer because bigger bags are thicker and take longer to heat up in the middle. If you seal after the PC you can fit more than twice that much grain in per run. My flow hood is way too small (10"x10") to seal bags with, so I just do it in dirty air. If you use bag clamps it's really easy. The bags come out with the vacuum seal holding the plastic together, so nothing will get in. Heat sealing can be a problem because of moisture, but a clamp will have no problem pushing the moisture out of the way, and you can always heat seal it later when it dries out and remove the clamp.

@DestroyAllDemocrats Жыл бұрын

What type of bag do I get to be all in one autoclavable and sealable with filter?

@Beinhartwie1chopper Жыл бұрын

Can I use hulled rye or is it going to be too mushy without the hull ? All the rye that I can find is already hulled.

@davidallen4638 Жыл бұрын

BOOMER SOONER BOOMER SHROOMER....THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE SIMPLIFIED TECHNIQUE TO MAKING OUR OWN GRAIN BAGS AND ALL OF THE OTHER BEN FRANKLIN SAVING TIPS AND ADVICE THAT YOU SHARE IN YOUR VIDEOS

@modeob88 Жыл бұрын

Millet works to colonize magic mushrooms ? What do you think is the best best best food for colonize ? i had tryed rice, but have problems with the exact cooked point :(