Time Stamps: 0:00 - Ze Beginning 0:20 - What Is Ze PAC? 0:48 - PAC Pros 7:23 - PAC Cons 13:42 - Tubes and Terminators 16:19 - Melee Lens 19:23 - Short Range Lens 21:11 - Scatter Lens 23:14 - Vertical Lens 25:31 - Long-Range Lens 27:46 - Damage Types 33:35 - Damage and Accuracy Settings 37:05 - PAC Turret Building Demo! 44:15 - The Important Note of Anti-Submarine Warfare
@wuzz1113 жыл бұрын
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@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
@@wuzz111 Oh yeah, cheers. XD
@Lathland3 жыл бұрын
You sure PACed a lot into this video. But seriously, great tutorial!
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyyyyyy Thank you! 😁
@requitedhail89533 жыл бұрын
Hi lath. Fancy seeing you here.....
@SwissAdmiral3 жыл бұрын
HHHHHHhhwwwwhhhyyyy lathland you were the chosen one!
@tophattechpriest62182 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect to see you here.
@ZackHab2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Imdrekaiser3 жыл бұрын
I had absolutely no idea the Input Port thing gave a damage falloff deduction. This entire guide has been massively helpful. Now I want to play FTD already
@food74793 жыл бұрын
Did you know? Particle accelerator cannon PAC a punch.
@Daemonworks3 жыл бұрын
The melee lens can be an absolute beast if a thing if set up right. I made a hover-under sub that just rips the guts out of anything that lets it get into position. So much fun :)
@ryanmassie4483 жыл бұрын
"Basic Particle Cannon Guide" *46 minutes*
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Welcome to FtD and the channel. 😎
@8b8b8b3 жыл бұрын
You should watch the 1:30:00 video on the absolute basics for trains in Factorio
@nnn43763 жыл бұрын
PACs in a shellnut
@ryanmassie4483 жыл бұрын
@@8b8b8b trust me I have and still have no clue outside of basic signals.
@AdNecrias3 жыл бұрын
It's a Borderwise video, they need to be over 20 mins for anything :p
@rollshair30173 жыл бұрын
The wise border once said:
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
"... what was I talking about?" 🤔
@Frostbyte003 жыл бұрын
This was uploaded uncannily close to me starting the RSC-60 Gamma for my faction in a cc, a craft which uses pacs for its main weapon. Now I don’t need to mess with pac experimentation for learning how to pac, cheers!
@curtisbrown5473 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this, PAC's were always a weapon that I stayed away from because I kept assuming they were to complex. now I can't wait to get back on FTD and bolt a few secondary PAC guns onto my battleship
@zoltek65073 жыл бұрын
Could you go in depth on how stealth works in this game? I think its a good video idea as not much people really know stealth is even possible really!
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@monsterkicker2913 жыл бұрын
I generally use pacs for anti-air, as the smaller planes get vaporized.
@kylestanley78433 жыл бұрын
Oversized, overclocked impact PACs do such wonderfully bad things to little bois
@TinkyTheCat3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, I'd been messing around with a PAC front-sider recently. Currently planning to look into whether I can use bread/ACB's or something to automatically adjust the damage type and charge/focus levels based on the AI's current target to make the weapon more effective without having to babysit it.
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Good news! All of that is totally possible with ACBs. 👍
@Mernom4 ай бұрын
I'm getting into the habit of using breadboards to manage my PACs. You use the primary target mass detection component to adjust the base charge time for the enemy size, and I also recently came up with the idea of using the reader component to read the time since the last firing, and increase their charge time to match that, so that if they end up not firing for a while for whatever reason (say, the enemy was out of the arc of fire), it will charge up instead of sitting idly. Also, you can read if they are broken, and set the LWC fire rate to 0 so that they don't fire when broken.
@siskinedge3 жыл бұрын
very informative, I might try a pac fighter with the scatter lens now I know it's got decent range
@drdoofus31733 жыл бұрын
Nice, a little while ago I was asking about particle cannons on your discord as I was having a LOT of trouble with them. Your last video on them is a little old, this will help a lot. Thanks BorderWise!
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! 😁
@user-sl4ep8tw1s2 жыл бұрын
Here's a weird thing about PAC: it's spread growth isn't linear. The dependency function (spread angle from distance) is actually a cubic parabola (but only for 4500 meters or so, on a longer distances the formula begins to missbehave).
@theorangeninja64863 жыл бұрын
dang, barely missed being first again haha thank you for making a guide on this, I was gonna look into making a PAC fighter soon :)
@lonepirate21943 жыл бұрын
I will use this knowledge to make main guns of my battleship and borderwise one of your old tutorials on armour in from from the depths was really helpful when I was designing my new battleship hull so thanks borderwise but I’ll stay from airships and spaceships and subs but stick with good old ships and helicopters as anything above those are way pass my skill grade so thanks borderwise for tutorials on stuff from the depths!
@guvyygvuhh2983 жыл бұрын
Pac pros: -hitscan explosion (enough said) -hitscan thump dmg (meme) -hitscan EMP, great against stupid shit like LH ships -hitscan piercing, great for sniping AIs -sounds cool -hits like an absolute truck, can easily 1 shot every single small craft or even cut in half some bigger ones Pac cons: -parts have no hp at all -flexibility is 0, you can hit only the things right in front of you (ubless you make a massive, well armmored, well shielded turret) -high cost to build -high cost to fire I kinda like them, but pacs are a very, very nieche weapon type
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Did you miss the part where Long-Range PAC Lenses have 20,000 health?
@guvyygvuhh2983 жыл бұрын
@@BorderWise12 been a while since I played with pacs mostly bcz steams are broken and I cant get enough energy to make them work (well the huge ones that make me smile, not the tiny ass one on your PT bote)
@nacl49882 жыл бұрын
"Expensive to make and run. Very expensive to protect yourself from."
@tysanbyrd75323 жыл бұрын
I love melee Pacs because the craft doesn't have to move to make them do damage, also they're pretty and u can do a lot of crazy visual things with it
@britishneko3906 Жыл бұрын
now I can finish the big ass turret I made for my space battleship
@oygemprime38643 жыл бұрын
That little PAC canoe feels like the Anemonite to me. Just a suggestion though!
@afancypirate77543 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tutorial, I had no idea what I was doing with pacs before
@trazyntheinfinite98953 жыл бұрын
i build a submarine on wheels. its a giant battery. with one giant Pac. It needs to be recharged by a vehicle with super efficient power generation. It also reaches into orbit. nothing is safe. its the dunbest thing.
@augustusmussolinusi38003 жыл бұрын
Yay!
@neutralspace-ishguy3 жыл бұрын
i find that 60% focus on scatter lens is accurate enough for engagements below 2000m
@r4lf8473 жыл бұрын
I see Pac Cannons i click i see Borderwise and i sub
@sharkuc3 жыл бұрын
THOOM? Sgt. Schlock would approve...
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would get that reference. 😁
@Sean-mb9tu3 жыл бұрын
Teach me how to zap canoo man
@starshine_project3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps showcase the Huge missiles which lathrix talked about
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Yup. That's upcoming.
@stefanhoffmann84173 жыл бұрын
3:08 Idk how detection worked in 2020 but nowadays you'd need laser range tracker, visual gimbal camera and a coincidence rangefinder for minimum bearing and range error and maximum updates per second. Also you can set the turret not to fire before it has X amount of detection error. And also the detection equipment would be great to be set to a lower update time. Not too low tho, sudden movements of lets say aircrafts can break your tracker's predictions and it'll make your turrets to overshoot. Specificly with the squirrel, it has random evasive manouvers with high power and instant counter-manouvers which scrambles the detection's predictions totally.
@fernandoperdicescasado5632 жыл бұрын
If a demonstration didn't go wrong it wouldn't be a Borderwise(tm) tutorial ;)
@JerryTheDinoKnight072 жыл бұрын
That thing with the melee lens reminded me of robot wars
@JerryTheDinoKnight072 жыл бұрын
also, is explosive impact decent for anti air purposes? Asking for me.
@wuzz1113 жыл бұрын
Needed this
@wolfyhalfmoon8193 жыл бұрын
No I want a rotary partial canon mini gun. Sounds as expensive as I would be useless, but I want it.
@dingkelschmit81133 жыл бұрын
Ur fucking spider avatar scared the shit outa me when it popped up in the intro. Great vid tho lmfao, I never really got PAC cannons.
@RoxyGotMoxy.3 жыл бұрын
I really hope in the upcoming particle snake tutorial video just for fun you make a GIGANTIC particle cannon, like a Space Battleship Yamato wave motion style gun. I want to see you delete big ships in a single shot :P
@kylestanley78433 жыл бұрын
A few years ago (before all the different lenses were a thing) I got bored and stuck a PAC on a turret and just wrapped all five tubes around and around and around until each one was at max length. I called it the Eye of Sauron. That poor White Flayers craft lost half its entire god damned frontside, I loved it.
@RoxyGotMoxy.3 жыл бұрын
@@kylestanley7843 *AMAZING!* I would have loved to see it. I had ideas for a heavily shielded flying/floating craft named after and based on The Beholder from Dungeons and Dragons. Main central eye has an "anti magic cone" which would be various munition defenses etc to stop everything incoming, and all its various eyestalks would be different weapons, Including an incredibly powerful 'death beam' PAC.
@kylestanley78433 жыл бұрын
@@RoxyGotMoxy. Well, you chose the right person to share that idea with, I love DnD lol That's a _brilliant_ idea, I think an omnidirectional orb of fixed PACs would be a pretty fun build! Trying to squeeze in all the tubing sounds like a fun challenge. The funniest thing to me is that it would be quite vulnerable to another beholder due to the counterless PAC, which is surprisingly fitting for them.
@RoxyGotMoxy.3 жыл бұрын
@@kylestanley7843 yeah for sure. I dont have a powerful enough laptop to run FtD nor the doctorate required to understand half of it lol, but if you ever make such a thing, please please let me know ok? I would LOVE to see it. Could even have the different beams, so one eyestalk is the PAC, another is a laser, another is a missile launcher, a lower one drops torpedoes, another is a cram cannon/mortar etc. Or could just do like different colour and ability set up PACs and lasers representing the different beams and their effects etc. Just a big ball of hard to hit heavy armor with all sorts of powerful but otherwise a little vulnerable weapons arrays, protected primarily by AI keeping it pointing at the enemy, and the anti-magic cone.
@grimloncz38533 жыл бұрын
Man, PACs are fun. Build one in designer; 1,8 M energy for evaporating the face of a very unfortunate marauder.
@Ariu_the_furry3 ай бұрын
particle cannons are good for new players (kinda like me) and easy to master
@815TypeSirius15 күн бұрын
I am designing a satellite and PAC is my first choice since its energy only and satellite with ammo/fuel are too cursed to live.
@GarGhuul3 жыл бұрын
Two Questions: 1) Can you mount the vertical lens on its side to make it horizontal? 2) Is there really no benefit other than block HP from using the longer pipes?
@rompevuevitos2223 жыл бұрын
1)The lenses can be placed in any direction and can be routed all along the body, you could make a ship whose structure is made out of PAC pipes that ends up shooting downwards if you really wanted 2)No idea
@casparzalwel1758 ай бұрын
do you have a tutorial or tips on how to snake the tubes through turrets or confined spaces?
@BorderWise128 ай бұрын
Not specifically that, no. Best thing to do is practice playing snake with the tubes.
@casparzalwel1758 ай бұрын
@@BorderWise12 ill get some apples. 👍
@weirdgaming46283 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail is a weapon of pac oculus
@evilbadger343 жыл бұрын
I was trying to make a death star and discovered that a PAC tubing can only be 1000m long each. So build with that in mind for megabuilds
@ninjasocks68232 жыл бұрын
is it 1000m long across all arms of the cannon, or is it 1000m for each arm?
@evilbadger342 жыл бұрын
@@ninjasocks6823 each lense can have 1000m of tubing
@nocanseegreen38453 жыл бұрын
you reading the comments look at the 'Hunter' from the gray talons
@ezurth3 жыл бұрын
i can totally imagine a ship that defends itself against ram craft with the melee lens
@ghostlemon6683 жыл бұрын
I want to get this so badly but I don't have the PC
@r4lf8473 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that it is a „basic „ pac guide but it is 50min long xD
@apolloaerospace77733 жыл бұрын
I have heard that the Megalodon gets PAC´s, will this push back her most wanted ? And are you using Cram´s for that ?
@altaircarlson4803 жыл бұрын
For changing the accuracy is there a way to make a giant onion peeler, like a pac cannon that just damages every block in a cone, and would sorta peel the ship's armor like an onion?
@Gab468113 жыл бұрын
Do you have a detection system guide? Love your vids btw
@baker80023 жыл бұрын
41:25 Maybe a stupid question but when i built this, what do i press to enter firing mod??? I made this but dont know how to fire it???
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Scroll the mouse wheel to select the right weapon slot (top one is all weapons) and hit Ctrl to fire.
@baker80023 жыл бұрын
@@BorderWise12 thank you so much
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
@@baker8002 No worries. 👍
@dusty48962 жыл бұрын
I have a cruiser with a particle cannon that has 274k damage per shot. Clearly better than any other weapon (not railgun though)
@shrillcrayfish61683 жыл бұрын
Hey how do you get your water like that
@elsheik0793 жыл бұрын
hey, I was wondering. How do you do those Ship propellers in the down of your first ship? the cylindrical with free gimbal.
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
You mean the azipods? Learn how here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaeepZSenbuRp6M.html
@Dalmango3 жыл бұрын
Lay down pipe... Be a plumber!
@plebao513 жыл бұрын
haven't we had a pac tutorial before? I don't remember
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Nah. I covered the PAC update when it happened. 👍
@darkwind60403 жыл бұрын
Could I know how you made those propellers I can't seem to replicate them?
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
You mean the azipods? It's just props on a spinblock rigged to respond to AI yaw control, with a a bit of Ctrl+X decoration.
@darkwind60403 жыл бұрын
@@BorderWise12 thank you, I know where to look now.
@rhazien25023 жыл бұрын
In my opinion lead should counter PACs, on the same principle of radiation, lead is good at stopping high energy particles because it is dense, PACs shoot high energy particles, so lead should absorb their damage better than other blocks maybe? Like EMP and wood/stone, like it could absorb % of all damage per block the PAC beam hits or travels through, but the problem with that is if you set it to EMP than the logic behind lead absorbing some damage goes to shit.
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
PACs fire exotic elements at near-lightspeed. I think it'd take more than layers of lead, in the same way layers of lead don't do jack against AP shells. XD
@rhazien25023 жыл бұрын
@@BorderWise12 well to be honest some radioactive particles inside nuclear reactor can go faster than light, but only if underwater where light travels a bit slower, although I don't think lead is still used for nuclear fission control rods, they can still stop those kind of light speed particles, unless the exotic particles are something like anti-matter which would anahialate with regular particles, which still would make sense for the impact mode, it kinda makes sense, but idk I am just a nerd with google not a scientist to say what should or should not make sense. And APS going through lead kinda makes sense since lead is dense but soft, on the mohs scale lead gets a 1.5, it is even softer than gold which scores a 2.5 on the mohs scale.
@Graknorke2 жыл бұрын
your blocks stopping the particles is exactly what makes them do damage :p same as any other long range weapon really it's just transferring energy from one place to another. you could make an argument for lead stopping penetration specifically though I guess
@rhazien25022 жыл бұрын
@@Graknorke the thing is that it lead is a dense material, there fore it can absorb a high number of particles, instead of shattering like it would with fission. My proposal is: lead would be better than regular metal at absorbing a hit from a PAC, not that it would be immune, but it would shatter less, making less internal spalling.
@dragonstone82012 жыл бұрын
Bros PACking
@t-rexcamp9090 Жыл бұрын
Unpredictable projectiles that are stupid strong due to no accuracy perfect for swarms of fighters
@timolo04113 жыл бұрын
I followed the turorial and my pac doesnt fire
@BorderWise123 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Local Weapon Controller controlling it and do yoy have sufficent battery power?
@andrelanger83963 жыл бұрын
I think using partical canons are probably the worst weapon for fixed broadside canons.
@kylestanley78433 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But fixed frontside? Oh, they work just fine for that.