APS Shell-to-Gauge Guide - From the Depths

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ABOUT THIS GAME
Summary:
In From the Depths you can build and take first-person command of battleships, planes, submarines, space ships, hot air balloons and more! The game is currently in alpha and contains a wide range of single player content including:
A creative mode allowing you to push your designs to the limit and ensure the total annihilation of your opponents.
A campaign waged over hundreds of islands against eight unique factions.
A Story Mode where you can (eventually!) play 15 missions as each of the eight factions - a fantastic mixture of strategy, design and wild battles! Defend your fleet against waves of enemy forces in a series of extremely tough challenges that unlock new components.
An expansive multiplayer and co-op element is planned for the coming months!
Key Features:
Design and build your fleet, fortresses and structures however you want. The alpha currently has over 400 unique components blocks, not including 29 different components for making missiles, torpedoes, depth charges and bombs.
The sky's the limit, you can equip your vehicle with - cannons, lasers, mines, bombs, missiles, torpedoes, propellers, rudders, jet engines, wings, hydrofoils, hot air balloons, anchors, fire control computers, blueprint spawners, repair bots, air pumps, automated control blocks and many, many more!
Realistic physics - every block destroyed or added affects the vehicle's functionality, physics and control. Drag, inertia tensors, buoyancy and sealed compartments are all updated based on the design of your vehicle and the damage sustained.
Be part of a fantastic community: (www.fromthedepthsgame.com/forum), with new releases made on average once a week. Community organised challenges and blueprint sharing make it an extremely friendly place to hang out!
Customisable Components:
The customisable components in From the Depths allow a unique level of engineering customisation:
- Design custom missiles, bombs, depth charges and torpedoes by combining various warheads types, fuse types, IR seekers, laser beam riders, laser designators, thrusters, navigation algorithms, fuel pods, sonar seekers, buoyancy compartments and propellers, to deliver a truly bespoke weapon.
- Design custom cannons by combining four different barrel types and lengths with autoloaders, warhead types, ammo boxes and auxiliary components to create everything from AA cannons to howitzers.
- Design custom AI by combing an AI mainframe with 'AI cards' slotted into motherboard blocks. Add radar detection, laser detection and tracking and local weapon controllers to give partial or full control to AI. Create anything from a fully AI controlled aircraft carrier to a battery powered drone.
- Design custom engines using crank shafts, cylinders, carburetors, super chargers, exhausts and fuel injectors. Electric engines, generators and chargers are also available for backup power supplies and drones.
- Similar systems exist for the creation of anti-vehicle and anti-missile lasers, as well as drills that can cut even the largest of battleships in half.
I had nothing to do with the development of this game. All rights to From the Depths belong to Brilliant Skies Limited. Please do not upload this video elsewhere without my permission.

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@food7479 4 жыл бұрын

***Easy to click Timestemps that automatically bring you to the point of time in the video, so you don't have to fiddle around with the YT player to get to the point in time you ask for.*** 2:07 Small 20:19 Medium 28:18 Large

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

... I should be the one doing that, shouldn't I. XD

@food7479 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Well, next time buddy. You already made this great video, so we all shall forgive you. :3

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@food7479 Aww, thank you. :) I'll put easy-click time stamps in the description next time.

@Cheesecannon25 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 and a pinned comment for us mobile folk

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@Cheesecannon25 Oh yeah, didn't think of that. Cheers!

@tabernaclejones6115 3 жыл бұрын

This game is perfect while I'm off work. I have to take "classes" every morning on a component of building and try to utilize what I learned that after noon/evening. Crazy. I still can only build a very basic fuel powered dinghy with simple cannons and vertical rockets after a week.

@miclash013 4 жыл бұрын

"A giant middle finger to anything flying." I love it when BorderWise starts to ramble. The best quotes come out of it.

@betolee4292 4 жыл бұрын

I always forget, so: 18mm HEAT 60mm frag 100mm kine 175mm HE 225mm squash 300mm HEAT 333mm squash 400mm hollow EMP 500mm squash HEAT frag HE

@jules4209 4 жыл бұрын

Small APS guns are for BRRRRRRRTTTT!!!

@makebritaingreatagain2613 4 жыл бұрын

The thing does indeed go skrrra.

@Cheesecannon25 4 жыл бұрын

@@makebritaingreatagain2613 PA PA PA

@nade5557 4 жыл бұрын

@@Cheesecannon25 Skidiki pap pap

@nade5557 4 жыл бұрын

I managed to get a 13x13x8 APS turret to 900rpm with a 120mm gauge xd

@kasyu1101 4 жыл бұрын

not this one.

@DOOM891 4 жыл бұрын

"Delicious Block Confetti!" Should put that on a shirt lol

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Or market it as breakfast cereal. 😁

@ojurb1296 4 жыл бұрын

BW, you don't need an inertial fuse on HEAT since it always detonates on impact! Keep up the good videos and can't wait till your railgun one!

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Only reason I use Inertial Fuses with HEAT is to get that extra 40% through shields. Not really as necessary anymore, I know. :)

@ojurb1296 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 I did the same until someone in the discord pointed it out. It's a judgement call, but shields are on the weaker side and an extra warhead space is nice imo.

@_tyrannus 4 жыл бұрын

@@ojurb1296 Inertial fuses are only 100mm part length, so just slap an extra single slot customizer and reduce the gauge a wee bit.

@jakethesnake6169 4 жыл бұрын

You should make a video on some weird particle cannons like the shotgun like one

@kylestanley7843 4 жыл бұрын

I like the sound of shotgun particle cannons tbh. My favorite, though, is maxing out each tube and charge up time and just creating a long range death beam. I made one and called it the Eye of Sauron lol

@xanthacanthus 3 жыл бұрын

A swarm of laser shotgun wielding ramming vehicles? Sign me up.

@Galvin09670 4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou Borderwise for making this video! You just helped me a lot with figuring out what shell types to use for my kobold-like frontsider the Skarwhal. And what the 500mm should shoot, and the sextuple 150mm AAA should shoot. Well done keep up the good work.

@irwinhui 4 жыл бұрын

for 500mm railguns, I like to use sabot pen depth frag.

@Cheesecannon25 4 жыл бұрын

Beltfed railguns are fun! but they're really expensive tho

@Gespenter 4 жыл бұрын

I love 28cm apps cannons

@xmm8299 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Also, I dont have a problem making a good shell, the current big problem I see is the cost of APS, almost every component of an APS is more than 50 materials per 1m^3, which is TWICE as expensive as heavy armor, not to mention that 1m autoloaders are 200 materials each, so really for their cost you can either make God-Like CRAM cannon for ship and airship obliteration or a very powerful laser for fast target destruction or even a nice missile system for versatile demolition, and really at the moment one thing that I would really like to see is a HUGE cost reduction in APS. There are no more of these small disposable weapons that I really liked, before you could have either missiles or APSs on your small cheap planes or helis, which were a lot of fun to make and also a lot of fun to use, then the missile update hit and missiles became very expensive and ammo hungry so you could only use APSs (APS was also a VERY ammo hungry weapon type, but you could have about 3 clips per autoloader with ease and 3 clips were more than enough for one fight (assuming you had about 12 autoloaders and 5 cannons in the sky, both very manageable), so you only needed one box of ammo on your craft and reload in between battles, which was a bit boring but in the meantime I was generally either building something on the map or doing something unrelated to the game), and now, after this APS update, there are no effective throw away weapons. And yes, of course, we got a shit load of simple weapons, but lets be honest, THEY SUCK. And finally, this mostly hits people like me who really like AoTE campaign, because of the same volume limit that made me a MUCH better builder the game is unplayable right there now, since now there arent any low cost throw away weapons, you need to protect your big expensive weapons in the best possible way, but that impossible since you have only 2000 volume, and this really hits me hard, and not just me but quite a lot of people actually, even tho I know that you yourself hate volume limit tho XD

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, dude, you know how to write an essay! XD Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of APS costs right now either. I want to make cheap little railguns, but I can't...

@Feraligono 4 жыл бұрын

I get the feeling that the current plan is actually for all weapon systems to have a cost increase similar to what the missiles and advanced cannons have received. At the moment it seems a bit extreme, but we'll have to wait for the economy rework to really iron it all out.

@bigscaryman7421 2 жыл бұрын

bit late ik but if you still play then you can use long autoloaders to make your aps almost as cheap as crams 1 meter loaders are half the cost of an 8 meter loader

@TallinuTV 4 жыл бұрын

Good to finally know what others called the 333mm belt fed guns! Of course I made mine fire much faster... And have four firing pieces! Longer barrels too, so they would have better accuracy. Also, you can actually make 400 and 500mm belt blasters, with certain shell designs and/or railgun propulsion instead of gunpowder! Sticking with gunpowder, there were use cases for a 500mm shell with a single charge and an HE, frag, or EMP head, and in 400mm you could make a great AA gun using a frag or flak head and timed fuse that could rapidly shred aircraft. One of my favorite tactics was to use a mix of different shell types within each firing piece's different autoloaders so each gun would alternate between flak and frag, for instance. It looks like the fuse size has changed since I designed these though, so you could actually up the gauge to 450mm or add in a base bleeder! Nice.

@cephy8102 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly I just watched this because I can't decide what I want on my airship. I guess it'll be some medium sized HEAT shells.

@fenrin49 4 жыл бұрын

tip on the spam guns go for 300MM a lil less velocity but considerably less cooling need and you can fit a 4 section shell - i use them for flack so the extra slot for more boom gives a ton more damage. about 80% more damage for 315 instead of 350 velocity

@RyanPercival 4 жыл бұрын

High rate of fire flak guns work well at small gauge. 2000RPM of 7-8m explosions tends to decimate. Also with inertial fuses obviously.

@MCAroon09 4 жыл бұрын

that APS nerf kinda saddens me as I don't like building anything else, especially CRAM

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

It isn’t that bad it just gives APS a more realistic fire rate (and increased damage, speed and HP for compensation) Yes it kills CIWS, but over all makes the game more balanced, and makes building APS easyer, since you don’t need a calculator to build them anymore.

@MCAroon09 4 жыл бұрын

you may be right

@Tonatsi 4 жыл бұрын

You should try out cram artillery or bombs

@MCAroon09 4 жыл бұрын

My CRAM is terrible and bombs are useless for anything that doesn't fly

@Tonatsi 4 жыл бұрын

olodemolo MCAroon have you tried close combat vehicles then? Particle cannons and lasers now have short range attachments! (Arc emitters for particles, short range jets for lasers)

@gilbertley1309 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of Hollow Point HEFrag Thumper shells, I think they work best and most beautifully at medium to big gauges

@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo 2 жыл бұрын

so i am planning to make faction craft for the campaign and theme them after real world ships, shells and all, but as i get later and later into the campaign i get more and more personalized and less control C control V from IRL to game. and i must thank you for helping me figure out my shell types for the mid and later portions of the campaign.

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 😁

@revengefullobster4524 4 жыл бұрын

You should use the Staalslang as your heavy armor test subject or the good old Bulwark. I also like using the Kingstead. I have to say I'm a bit disappointed that the long shells have become a thing again. I am going to have to rethink my ammo configs now as well, but this was helpful. Thanks!

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! I do occasionally use the Staalslang as a target dummy, and it is weirdly satisfying. :D

@aztekenen1 4 жыл бұрын

awesome analysis of the ammo types borderwise. alot of funky things are viable now in comparison to any previous versions of the game. what do you think of redoing a tutorial for making an optimal ship? overall shape, CoM, general AI, how to get high speeds on ships with armour and little space to spam forward props etc.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Not a bad idea to do another ship tutorial, actually. Aim-point spoofing is dead, and the physics engine is going to be changed soon so that'll be the perfect opportunity for that. :D

@aztekenen1 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 good to hear :) and, a *PHYSICS ENGINE?* i must know more. i want to know what will go down and when :O

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@aztekenen1 Not sure when it'll go live, but it's not anything too major. Less propulsion power, but also less drag. Just enough to bork a lot of airships, but nothing we can't handle. ;)

@aztekenen1 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 good haha. but i do find that propulsion power worrying. if i try to give 2m steel walls and an airgap to a destroyer and heavy armour to 2 small turrets and a small ai room, i already get only 20m/s if i don't use gamey tactics like forward deliblades or spinblocks to glitch blocks through each other. now they want a nerf? lol

@scorpion563 4 жыл бұрын

8 m long watamacall it shell that imparts recoil on enemy. Way to hillarious to watch

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

23:26 If you replace the base bleeder with a 0.2 gunpowder casing it will go faster, be more accurate, and have faster reload.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Well, blow me down, you're right! Thanks for that tip. :)

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help :D

@xt6wagon 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't work for longer ranges, base bleed works wonders for 1KM shots as it keeps the velocity high. I found shells with a paper range of 2KM dropping dead at less than 1KM from velocity loss, while base bleed maintained most of it.

@froschreiniger2639 4 жыл бұрын

my favorite is500mm railgun, 8m shells no casings 1 stabilizer in the back one ap head and the rest just solid warhead, punches holes in even the strongest vehicles and if you face softer targets just switch to hollow point and watch them disintegrate in 1 shot´.

@Joey5537 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if the video is just outdated, but you can get some pretty baller 50mm sabot shells now.

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Video is slightly outdated, yes.

@somewierdoonline2402 3 жыл бұрын

Pink shell trail nice

@dr.robertnick9599 4 жыл бұрын

I think a rail gun belt blaster could be stupid small and good. Just 2 HE and a squash head (Or something, even APHE could probably work well with a bit more rail draw), no cooling required into about 4 belt fed autoloaders, few railgun chargers charging maybe 2 railgun magnets and you have a small gun with moderate firerate, good damage, good speed at a very small size (and prize) for its damage output

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Can confirm. Belt-fed railguns are pretty darn good.

@stallfighter 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 especially belt-fed EM CIWS. Ultrasmall and quick-firing.

@comet.x 4 жыл бұрын

Moderate fire rate? Wtf you mean, 2400 rpm is not 'moderate'

@nikl865 4 жыл бұрын

Im quite into 150 to 270 mm pure HE shells due to the update

@air7604 4 жыл бұрын

I guess you can say that’s *shell* tastic

@johanness3850 4 жыл бұрын

that is so bad it cant even be considered a pun

@air7604 4 жыл бұрын

Johannes S ok you try come up with a pun that uses the word shell. We *SHELL* see..

@johanness3850 4 жыл бұрын

@@air7604 better. but it is still merely an empty shell to be filled

@johanness3850 4 жыл бұрын

really mine was worse, but i just needed something quickly, even if it isnt even worth a shelling or two

@air7604 4 жыл бұрын

Good one

@aaronsams8605 3 жыл бұрын

900 RPM 225mm HE is so much fun, I only test my guns against the Excalibur now because it looks so nice when damaged.

@slabo9035 4 жыл бұрын

I use 220mm Armour Piercing High Explosive and it seems to work wonders against most things

@tommeakin1732 4 жыл бұрын

You mean with a pen depth fuse?

@stallfighter 4 жыл бұрын

EM-acc or gunpowder?

@slabo9035 4 жыл бұрын

@@tommeakin1732 Pen Depth at defualt

@slabo9035 4 жыл бұрын

@@stallfighter Gunpowder

@akukuat101 4 жыл бұрын

Hi i only started this game your video help alot abouy the game. Still i saw those guns so expensive in campaign mode. I dont know of i manage to make one.

@Kate-Tea 3 жыл бұрын

rail assisted hollow points are what my mind thinks HE is like lol

@Daemonworks 4 жыл бұрын

With the shield nerf, powerful AP is likely going to be pretty great against frontsiders. A one block wide hole down the entire length of a ship is going to ruin it's day.

@Apollo_1641 4 жыл бұрын

Generally, are longer shells preferable to shorter ones if it means sacrificing gauge? I'm squeezing 150mm gauge shells into my gun with 1m Autoloader length XD

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

There's a balance to be struck, to be sure. For chemical shells, a slightly longer smaller shell is better than a shorter, fatter shell. The 175mm HE gun shown in the video has better HE damage than the 300mm one for that reason.

@IainDoherty51 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve found that long smaller gauge shells with more warheads tend to be a bit better in a lot of situations, though you might need to use a small Railgun if you want to get the speed up. Really though I’d advise you to just play around with them and see what works. I know I stuck a lot of time into creating the shells for my Flak CIWS guns just recently, and a bit of time tuning my current 475mm APHE shells (ridiculously good vs GT Airships). Just don’t be afraid to experiment and try unusual things! I know that I used to have a ridiculously good shell at 450mm that used Hollow Point and twin Secondary Shaped charges to bypass ERA... and that thing was incredibly odd.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@IainDoherty51 That is EXACTLY what I've been doing and what I've found! Science away! :D

@victorfrankenstein8005 4 жыл бұрын

Is this because of the better pen or more explosive?

@kylestanley7843 4 жыл бұрын

@@victorfrankenstein8005 I imagine it's due to simply having more warheads.

@eliteleon2212 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting... Don't mind me, the CRAM main, taking notes on how to counter them all with JUST a single scalable armour scheme.

@enderon1175 4 жыл бұрын

cant wait for the new cluster crams, hopefully they come soon :D

@comet.x 4 жыл бұрын

I have a max gauge aps cannon that's 5x5x10. It has a fire rate of 2400rpm and a reload of 17 seconds

@Tonatsi 4 жыл бұрын

Comet OS what’s the shell comp?

@comet.x 4 жыл бұрын

@@Tonatsi one meter hesh shell

@Tonatsi 4 жыл бұрын

Comet OS cool

@kasyu1101 4 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to figure out a way to make a proper phalanx CIWS using aps, with the proper 30mm shells fired at 2400ish rpm. but the only way I know of to realistically do it is to make a simple weapon that is the correct size. the steel striders ones are alright, but they are just way too slow for me. I want to be able to make a ship with no shields, railguns, or lasers, using only air pumps for buoyancy.

@LiveLNXgaming 4 жыл бұрын

im now going to go build a replica of the USS Atlanta and

@STbattlefront 3 жыл бұрын

Learning a lot from theses videos and I do wonder if they still hold up with the new updates?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Mostly. The completely outdated guides have 'Outdated' added in the title.

@STbattlefront 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 alright and they are still good

@ikman4006 4 жыл бұрын

how do you use such a long shell in a 1M belt fed autoloader?

@blueberry1c2 4 жыл бұрын

Little question: how do i make multiple gun barrels (on ome firing piece) not fire at once, but rather staggered?

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Hit Q on the gun. On the second tab, there's an option to set the maximum rate of fire (in rounds per minute).

@i_critique_your_vanity7216 4 жыл бұрын

Hey borderwise, have you figured out projectile avoidance? If so, we would love a video on it. (My hovertanks would love it)

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I need to add that to the list of Things To Figure Out! Thanks for the reminder, that's a good thing to know. :)

@megadeathx 4 жыл бұрын

I've played enough FPS games to know the answer: Strafe. Just make sure it's balanced and doesn't cause tipping nor tumbling.

@miniloserchamp1960 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this so we don't have to

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! :)

@miniloserchamp1960 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 I particularly hate waiting for belt fed auto loaders to load their shells, especially after this update. Thank you again, I can imagine how long these videos could take to make. I am glad to see no coughing fits this video so I hope you fully recovered from whatever you had.

@dagger6498 4 жыл бұрын

*Timestamps* 2:20 18mm 8:23 60mm 12:15 100mm 20:40 175mm 22:58 225mm 24:40 300mm 28:43 333mm 31:59 400mm 35:16 500mm

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers! 👍

@DaggerStyle 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Thank you! I found your video quite useful! I have been working on a crazy input only gun at 60mm and your advice really payed off! I really struggled adapting after a longer hiatus, and major changes. But now i can once again kick ass!

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@DaggerStyle Yay! Glad to hear it. 👍

@alditory6621 4 жыл бұрын

What's up with the accuracy Is this detection fault or barrels inaccuracy That's really bad actually

@boris8515 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a CRAM cannon with: 2k capacity of payload 200/s EMP charge Around 1500mm large. And you hit something with it. Like instant AI dead

@HuntingFalconn 4 жыл бұрын

If you want fun shooting squirrels use 500mm 8m 2000ms rounds. One shot squirrels all day.

@kevinpark5691 4 жыл бұрын

Do you use Neter 2014 settings? The flying machines in GT didn't seem to fly for me with 2019 settings

@idleisidle 4 жыл бұрын

Neter 2019 isn't being used yet, it will be used upon the 2019 release

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

What idleisidle said, yes.

@makebritaingreatagain2613 4 жыл бұрын

Does it really make sense to make low calibre APS still? Seems like auto cannons are the way to go now.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Simple weapons are much cheaper its true, but APS still has better RPM and DPS. There's also a much less strict shell length limit than custom shell weapons have.

@Ally5141 3 жыл бұрын

HEAT are so good at low gauges only because game doesn't model jet's maximum length which is around 6 times the gauge. Any HEAT shell under 50mm would be useless if that wasn't the case. And HESH should be useless against any spaced armor. I'm still waiting for ceramic armor with very high armor value and very low HP. Applique armor kinda works like that but we need full block version of it.

@CRUASSANFAN 3 жыл бұрын

the best shell is 300mm emp/smoke one xD

@scorpion563 3 жыл бұрын

Max rpm 18 mil heat gun go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

@_tyrannus 4 жыл бұрын

47:30 "You can't just spam one kind of shell type and think that'll get you all the way to freedom!" *laughs in 500mm HEAT-HESH*

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

"Proper spaced armour". Most campaign designs are too small to have decent spaced armour. Try testing HEAT/HESH guns against some of the better user-made craft out there, and you'll find they don't work quite as well.

@_tyrannus 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 I am yet to fully design a boat that can properly house it, but I've got a nice 17m turret with two rows of 6m autoloaders. It spits out decently fast shells (450 something m/s) with 3 HE for HESH and 3 for HEAT (best spot to avoid diminishing returns AFAIK) every 0.45sec. Just one of them tears through Thyrs from kilometres away. I've tried lots of different shell types, and bar HESH, this is the most polyvalent. I guess using an alternation of HEAT/HESH shorter shells in a smaller gun could work more efficiently, I've done that but good gosh is it painful to manually set every intake like in days of old.

@rpscorp9457 4 жыл бұрын

against squishy targets, anything will work as long as the velocity is good...not sure im quite understanding your testing mechanic...

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Not testing: demonstrating. Perhaps I should've picked scarier things to shoot at, though...

@rpscorp9457 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 demonstration and test are the same thing, heh. One can be done by oneself, the other implies requiring an audience.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@rpscorp9457 Not exactly. Test = 'a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use.' Demonstration = 'an act of showing that something exists or is true by giving proof or evidence.' Or: 'a practical exhibition and explanation of how something works or is performed.' 'Testing' is what I do off-camera, because it's how I find things out. The second definition of 'demonstration' is what you see in the video, as its a practical showing of knowledge to others. Your point about my randomly picked targets for the demonstration still holds true, though. More powerful shells do need tougher targets to adequately demonstrate their power.

@foodomanthemagnificent2650 3 жыл бұрын

How accurate is this video still? I got a Coalition LAV from Deserts of Kharak that I need a way to improve it's guns

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

It's still pretty accurate. At least, I can't really think of any major changes that would change this guide off the top of my head.

@foodomanthemagnificent2650 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 thanks Borderwise! If I get the gun working good, I'll post it in the discord. You may have seen my Coalition Harvester earlier. I was trying Sabot rounds in an 18mm.

@klaidyzka4408 4 жыл бұрын

22:22 sound like flint and steel lol (sorry)

@mac1cam 4 жыл бұрын

LMAO ur right

@ShadowFire287 4 жыл бұрын

Some update must've happened because your frag rounds are not that effective in my games. In fact, they don't deal a whole lot of damage at all. Against the hake, the hake just keeps running up to the platform and then running away repeatedly and the frag rounds barely hit it if at all. What I have found to be effective was literally anything that does high damage when hitting a target. By that I mean 3 HE bodies and 1 head with a inertial fuse. 2mm long (60mm). It will take out a hake faster and deliver a critical direct hit.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Have you set the frag rounds to 180 degrees with a timed fuse?

@ShadowFire287 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Yup!

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowFire287 Not sure what you or I are doing differently, then. I certainly don't remember any additional frag nerfs after this video was made.

@ShadowFire287 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 You have no idea how annoying it was to figure out what was causing the problem. I've figured it out thanks to the help of your laser guide video and the steam community. Long story short, I was having problems with lasers actually hitting small and fast moving targets which is odd because in your videos they were almost always hitting. There is something called averaging times for the AI sensors and I had them on default. Turning the options lower made it actually hit the target. So I go ahead and try frags again and whaddya know, the results were similar to your video with the exception of hake murder. Hakes still turn to tightly when damaged to be hit by them.

@CreeperDude-cm1wv 4 жыл бұрын

I usually set my guns to fire at the fire rate the autoloaders can take in, not how fast the clips can intake, is this an effective strategy? Edit: I also design most of my middle weight ship's guns in a dual turret fashion, seven by seven, one of the previous of those guns I made clocked in at around (I think) a shot every 3 seconds. It is 200 millimeters and rail gun assisted firing hollow point HE.

@slabo9035 4 жыл бұрын

i managed to get a 5x5x9 220mm dual turret with 1 round out every 1.3 seconds. i usually only bother with mid size guns

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

As of now every clip attached directly to an autoloader effectively counts as another autoloader, so you can count clips as loaders for calculating maximum RPM.

@CreeperDude-cm1wv 4 жыл бұрын

@@slabo9035 the guns is only 6 meters tall I believe

@CreeperDude-cm1wv 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 yes but don't the audoloaders reload faster when inputed from a clip, I am not waiting around to constantly feed the clips.

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@CreeperDude-cm1wv Not sure what you're trying to say. An autoloader loads twice as fast when a clip is directly attached (Then x3 faster with 2 clips, x4 with 4), so 1 autoloader + 1 clip with attached inputs has the same RPM and intake as 2 autoloaders with inputs, while also being cheaper. Basically, any clip attached directly to a loader counts as a free autoloader and you can calculate the RPM with that in mind. Ammo intakes and loaders/clips are separate calculations, and you calculate ammo intake separately from loading speed.

@adnansabanovic6488 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me how to make a continuous firing 18mm? Im quite confused on it

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you meant by that. Use regular autoloaders and match their ROF to the cooling speed? Also manually set max ROF in the Q menu.

@adnansabanovic6488 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Thank you I watched a few more videos and recognized the problem! Your videos help a lot thank you. Also using the *symbol* placement Ive managed to fit a lot more autoloaders than previous.

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

@@adnansabanovic6488 Yer welcome! 😁

@victorfrankenstein8005 4 жыл бұрын

I honestly wonder how people make 500mm guns that spits out rounds at more than 300rpm

@ctrldis 4 жыл бұрын

Tight packing, the best I've managed is 456mm at 7rps and even that's stretching near battleship hull limits

@SuwinTzi 4 жыл бұрын

Is this still up to date? Peeps on the discord are telling me 20mm too small for HEAT

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

HEAT can still work at that gauge, but you need to spam it hard and it's more efficient to have a higher gauge shell for it.

@SuwinTzi 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 thanks for the reply, is 800 to 1200rpm sufficient then? Do i need more fire rate?

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

@@SuwinTzi That's plenty, yes.

@_caracalla_ 3 жыл бұрын

wrong blochk has been placed. we have to remove it.

@nick230699 4 жыл бұрын

U should try a 1000rpm 150mm hesh gatler

@azaty1721 4 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard to get to 1000rpm now adays

@nick230699 4 жыл бұрын

@@azaty1721 replaced my secondary guns from my battleship with dual 1000rpm 150 mm gatlers stredding everything it faced

@azaty1721 4 жыл бұрын

@@nick230699 how big are they and do they use autoloaders? In terms of turret radius and height

@nick230699 4 жыл бұрын

@@azaty1721 they are 17 by 17 by 35 including turret cap autoloaders with clips the normal fire rafe would be only 400 rpm but the autoloader limit is 1021 and cooling limit is a little over a 1000 ao it can achieve that firerate but not sustained for infinite time each gun holds around 2500 rounds but it can sustain fire for around 5 minutes

@azaty1721 4 жыл бұрын

@@nick230699 yeah, that would do it, i still remember how easy it was to make smaller aps shoot at 1000mm before the nerf. Havent taken the time to build one since. Im usually fine with 200-300 rpm on most of my builds

@kasyu1101 4 жыл бұрын

why are most of your shells so slow?

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Because this video's focus is on shell payload, not their propulsion.

@gmodrules123456789 4 жыл бұрын

What about APHE?

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Big long shells or railguns needed for that.

@cloudy792 4 жыл бұрын

i have this childlike urge to say first

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

... Do it. :D

@lolman3089 4 жыл бұрын

make a gameplay🤔

@springtrap0212 4 жыл бұрын

Inertial on a heat shell... Ok but why

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

Just for shields. Not strictly necessary anymore, but on a long shell it adds more than it takes away.

@Aereto 4 жыл бұрын

Better for a HEAT shell to detonate and spray than reflect off shield projectors inert. Those shells don't seem to detonate on shields the same way with armor on contact.

@springtrap0212 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! I am fairly new and the aps update really messed me up... (my poor little tonks )

@thealicemonster9217 3 жыл бұрын

666th like ftw

@baranbati2361 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, is this video still relevant?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Mostly, yes. I made a whole playlist the other day of videos that are definitely no longer relevant.

@baranbati2361 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 thanks a lot mate

@RhelrahneTheIdiot 4 жыл бұрын

WTF how do you consider 300mm to be medium!, 300mm turrets are considered capital ship guns and 400mm and above are only used in satellite kill platforms

@BorderWise12 4 жыл бұрын

'Cos in FtD, 250-300mm is roughly halfway between 18mm (the smallest APS gauge) and 500mm (the largest). That's not even considering CRAMs, which start at 200mm and go all the way to 2000mm. Real life considerations take a back seat in FtD logic.

@RhelrahneTheIdiot 4 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Yeah i've done some pretty stupid shit like design a battlecruiser which goes over 80kmph in reverse and over 100kmph going forward with shields and enough repair capacity to make it as good as invulnerable, realism means nothing to me as it should to everyone. Currently i'm working on Project Hexenon, a heavily armored battle carrier (hybrid battlecruiser and carrier) designed to operate the aircraft i intend to build those being, R29 Hexenon fighters and RA25 gunships, along with helicopters while being able to lay waste to a enemy with upwards of 355mm shells