Thanks Simon🙏🏻🙏🏻

Happy to help! Thank you 😃😃😃

Awesome! Thank you! And welcome to the channel 😃.I appreciate you reaching out and I think I have seen your name pop up here and there on FB groups. I might be mistaken though. As I have said in the "Welcome to the channel" video, I really value a good conversation where we can accept different methods. If we can communicate openly everyone can learn and evolve into better rope techs. So if you have any different techniques or thought processes on subjects, please leave a comment and let me and the viewers/readers know.

@@TheRopeAccessChannel I just watched your level one video ( the simple one) and you mentioned this one. We had to perform this rescue here, (this video) at a 3-day AR training course. Except we had to climb up the dummy's main line only, We had a backup on, as well as the dummy, had a backup, except, the dummy's backup was too short to reach the ground. This was the scenario we were given and had to handle. There were two SPRAT Inspectors there enforcing the rule. This whole test was for arborists, there were quite a few rope access techs there as well judging the whole event, I learned so much about how to improvise and rig for rescue ( because the injured person did not plan ahead and have an access line in place) Jim H.

And you are absolutely right about that. And that is a subject of different video. We never train with rope stretch and out in the filed that can really mess things up. I should have mentioned that😖. Although, solving a stuck asap on a jammer in that situation is easy and only takes 30 seconds 😉. Still preventing is better than solving! If rope stretch would be a possible issue I would change the casualty over to their descender first and then perform a basic rescue. That is if we are using only basic gear 😉. Thank you for your comment🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

So nice of you

Thanks 😃. I have one planned to film in the next time I am going to film. The thing is though, there is no ONE rescue bag. Some situations require different gear.. It already starts at "are we rescue to the top or to the bottom. And then, is it rope rescue based or rope access based. The latter requires far less gear and in some rope access jobs not even a specialised bag. But I think there is a sort of basic bag that could be build upon.

@@TheRopeAccessChannel I figure it'll be a dynamic thing depending on the rescue but will have some foundation pieces hence the question. Have binge-watched the IRATA 1,2,3 and just finishing up Grimpday 2022, cracking stuff.

Thank you for your comment 🙏🏼. I really appreciate it! On one hand you raise a valid point, on the other I get these things popping up, hear me out: 1 If the rescuer would loose balance nothing really shocking would happen. Both people would just sit back down. Maybe in a slightly uncontrolled fashion. Nothing serious though because people try to hold on and make it as controlled as possible. In over a decade of teaching rope access courses I have literally never seen anything remotely bad happen in this exercise. 2 If you are afraid of your footloop breaking, do you need to climb with two? Or would you feel safe using a 120cm soft sling? And if it would happen, the sit back in the Croll will be just as bad as some lazy ass rope techs falling back instead of sitting back when ascending the rope. And if after all that the rope would indeed break there are backups in place right? That's what they are there for. No need to backup the backup. 3 Falling back on the short connection although not favorable is not a big deal and comparable of someone crossloading a descender biner that suddenly flips right side up with a casualty suspended from it. Scary, yes maybe, serious no. Happens every training at least once. The biner flip that is. Not the falling into a short connection cause again in over a decade, nothing like that has ever happened (my trainings). I have heard of footloops breaking in shortlink rescues. However no injuries sustained. This is not the end all of croll rescue video's. Rather it is something to build on for later exercises. Also for the short link rescue, rescue from fall arrest or aid climb rescue. Like I said in the Update video from yesterday (bit.ly/39O62RL) using extra equipment like a set of fours or a Grillon is all beautiful and when all best laid plans fail it is essential that rope techs know how to perform all the exercises with a minimum of gear. Your other point on connecting as late as possible in the process is also a very valid one. Like you say, backup device and backup device management are also key here. Would you go onto the casualties rope if you had any doubts about their state? Probably not, so anything happening to them is as likely as in any normal day. And like I said, it is still a valid point form you where my personal opinion is that the 30 seconds it takes to perform this outweighs all those risks you mention. Only if you perform like I have though. ASAP high, only a 5 cm raise (or shorter) and the short connection as tight as possible so the sitback is a bit more than 5 cm. Connecting later in this method is not really possible. In other methods it is and then we DO connect later. If you would ever have to perform this with 100 meters of rope stretch you would probably change your casualty over to their descender first and these things are not an issue. But.. This video is to explain the basics of a croll rescue. The first building stone of different advanced rescues. Thanks again for this good comment where you did challenge my thought process. Am I getting old, or rather, am I stuck in my ways? I like to think not and if IRATA makes a statement or the assessors start commenting on this method I will be the first to change it. (like the double rigging plate.........) I do not know of any trainers who teach it different (I only know a few so this might be a completely stupid point). I genuinely think that the chances of things you mention happening AND resulting in some sort of injury are so low that this method is a perfectly fine one. For now... Have a good one, STAY CONNECTED

I think in case of croll and shortlink - it’s still better fall in shortlink then to croll (my opinion) as you should avoid any potential fall in tooth devices. If you don’t connect shortlink and you forget to pinch sling/prusik/footloop what ever casualty will fall lower and you may not be able reach his sternal Dring to connect with shortlink.

@@brianbodnar3969 I recently found out I did not get notifications of replies on replies. So I missed yours. I agree it is better to fall in the shortlink than croll. I also agree that using extra gear to lift the casualty out might be preferable. And like I said, basics first. Besides, if you forget the short connection than the long connection does it’s job and saves the CS right 😜

@@TheRopeAccessChannel Well said. Jim

@@aerialrescuesolutions3277 thanks 🙏🏻

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I don't know of the top of my head. Probably a Petzl one

I don’t see what you mean. How to incorporate that into a basic croll rescue. What you described works on a short link rescue. I try and keep it simple, let’s just start with the most basic counterbalance version before going into party tricks. The counterbalance is useful in many other applications as well.

Don't know why but this comment was not meant for this video, I posted it on another one I was watching.

@@GarsonLilley weird haha.

What do you mean traverse? Like a horizontal aid climb?

@@TheRopeAccessChannel maybe. I can't find video about the horizontal rescue in your page.

@@mehdiarzhangi If you mean Aid climb rescue than this is one way of doing it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc1_hal62eDNhoU.htmlsi=bYG4x63uehzgOZWN

Hi Gerhard, I talk a little bit about it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsCkn9GVv7zUno0.html It should start at the right point

That is only to keep me from spinning and staying oriented towards the camera

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